User talk:Sonomastate

Sonomastate, you are invited to the Teahouse
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 * Haha OK. This must be why in all of academia Wikipedia IS NOT considered a legit source. It is so ridiculous. Post a change to a talk page AND WAIT FOREVER. No information is current then....I understand the COI, no need to be a prick and talk down to me like you are some sort of wikipedia god. I AM NOT PROMOTING! I AM TRYING TO PROVIDE CORRECT, CURRENT RELEVANT INFORMATION! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. I WOULD LOVE IF A NON CONFLICTED PARTY COULD/ WOULD UPDATE THIS PAGE BUT THEY DONT!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU REALIZE HIGHER ED IN THE CSU IS A PUBLIC INSTITUTION? DO YOU REALIZE THAT IT IS NON-PROFIT!!!! WHAT WOULD I GAIN TRYING TO 'PROMOTE' THE SCHOOL??!?!!?—Sonomastate (talk)
 * Have you actually considered that with COI editors, it's not what the editor himself would gain, but rather what his *employers* would gain? And just because it's a public school doesn't mean it does not benefit from advertising. — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 19:45, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * A username change will not absolve you of a conflict of interest. What articles would you edit if unblocked, since you likely won't be allowed to edit about the university? — Jeremy  v^_^v  Bori! 22:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * How can info be updated then? Who else knows besides employees what information is outdated?? The seal on the page is incorrect and should not be at the top. The blue logo should be... —Sonomastate (talk)
 * If nobody else knows, then how would your edits meet Wikipedia's requirements for third party reliable sourcing? Images can be released to Wikipedia for its use - see the image use policy, and those with COI can suggest changes on the article talkpage, but for obvious reasons, anyone in "marketing" needs to take great care (✉→ BWilkins ←✎) 10:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * These things come from the University. Not me....how would this be considered spam? Shouldn't pages be updated to the most current information? How would this be considered self promotion? For public information the information SHOULD BE CORRECT. I find it flabbergasting it is so hard to MAKE LEGITIMATE changes to wikipedia. I am not trying to add in a bunch of false BS. What if students come to the SSU page and see wrong information? How would they ever know it was wrong? I am shocked wikipedia seems like such an exclusive community. How do other Universities keep their page updated with current information? I suggested changes on the talk page and nothing happens. It is not like I am adding "go to SSU its the best college in the world!!! I am trying to update simple information. This is ridiculous! —Sonomastate (talk)
 * ( Comment from uninvolved editor ) Well, Wikipedia isn't exactly the most perfect community in the world, but neverless, we have a way to work things out. I'll see if I can respond to some of your questions.
 * Shouldn't pages be updated to the most current information? Yes, this is very true. However, look at it this way- even though I'm very sure you are a legitimate employee and person, there is always a possibility of some person inserting false information. Since not all people can tell true from false on all topics at a moment's glance, we have to cite information to reliable sources. Although it might be hard to find third-party sources for the university, I think (not sure) that you can link to the University's website for some, but not all of the information. I don't think I'm familiar enough with the policy to explain exactly what type of information you can glean from official/affiliated sources, so you may want to check the linked section for information. That said, I understand that our Conflict of Interest policy discourages you yourself adding the information. Since you said you haven't received a response from anyone after posting on the talk page, you might want to make sure you used the appropriate templates, ask a trusted editor, or ask at the Conflict of interest/Noticeboardfor someone to help. If all else fails, put the template on your user talk page to get some attention or help.
 * How do other Universities keep their page updated with current information? This one I can probably explain more clearly. I'm pretty sure that most of the editors who keep the information current on other pages aren't affiliated with the universities themselves, but like I said before, there are several venues that you can pursue to get your edits put in. Perhaps you could put your proposed changes somewhere (the COI noticeboard, article talk page, etc.) and ask someone to review it and put the changes in. I know this system may seem like endless bureaucracy and might take a while, but we're all volunteers here, and try to do our best.


 * Those are the only questions I think I can answer for now, and I apologize in advance for the massive amount of text written. If you have any questions at the moment, you can ask them here and I (or some other editor) will do our best to help you. Thanks.  Thekillerpenguin     (talk)   04:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)