User talk:SounderBruce

Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome SounderBruce! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:55, 1 February 2024 UTC //en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SounderBruce&action=purge refresh via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Your reverts
I'm a bit perplexed by your reversions. None of my edits removed anything, they simply reduced the post-expand include size of the templates so that they will appear properly. Your reversions mean that those templates no longer appear correctly on pages like 2023 in American soccer. --Ahecht (TALK PAGE) 18:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC) PAGE]]) 21:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The mass substitution of templates is not an appropriate way to fix this issue, especially if there are further issues down the line. These edits bloated the articles and make them harder to load for editing as well, which is a real issue for contributors with poor internet connections or older hardware. The PEIS issue needs to be addressed within the existing templates, which are more convenient for editors to use and make later fixes much easier to implement.  Sounder Bruce  01:24, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's the nesting of templates, especially flag templates, that are the problem, not the outer templates themselves. Instead of implementing a solution, you just re-broke the pages. --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK
 * You're going to need to explain this more clearly, because the article as it is now doesn't throw up any obvious errors. I do not see a reason to add a ton of extra wiki markup that duplicates goal and other repeated templates in 2023 in American soccer.  Sounder Bruce  05:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for List of Seattle Reign FC seasons
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Sunday June 23 Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network meeting (WMF BoT statement on Movement Charter ratification)
Hi SounderBruce, I just got the notice for this a few minutes ago on my Meta talk page.

Please see meta:Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network/2024 06. Peaceray (talk) 16:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little confused by your repeated reverting of the Citation bot.
As far as I can see, you are only creating more, unnecessary work for yourself. Everytime you revert the bot's change, such as you have done on MLS Cup 2020, you are seting a timer for when the next person comes along and requests the bot look at those articles, which will inevitably happen eventually regardless of what either of us do. Wouldn't it just make more sense to let the bot's changes stand and move from there? Superegz (talk) 23:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The bot is at fault, and I have made several attempts to ask its maintainers to fix the one nagging little problem (which only affects WaPo articles) to no avail. The switch in parameter names causes issues with the scripts and workflows I use to maintain these articles, which attract the occasional sneaky bit of vandalism. Frankly, I think that the Citation bot interface needs to be overhauled so that users have to choose what changes are made and take full responsibility for them, as this is not the only issue that has been created by bot overuse.  Sounder Bruce  23:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

U.S. Route 101 scheduled for TFA
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WikiCup 2024 July newsletter
The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:


 * with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
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 * with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
 * with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

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A lesson in self-correction
SounderBruce: the exchange between us has haunted me since our first encounter. I have been surprised to find that each time it creeps uninvited into my mind, it leaves me disturbed. After much deliberation, I have come to the realization that you were right. I could approach my edit summaries in a different tone. When I am wrong, I say so. I truly do try to fully explain my changes and I try to instruct editors so they might know some of the rules of writing as they move along. I want to thank you for drawing my attention to this. I will endeavor to improve. Best wishes to you and I hope to have another chance to work with you again. MarydaleEd (talk) 02:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message. I realize that I was also a bit harsh and should try not to let things boil over so quickly. I guess we're all a little on edge these days for various reasons.  Sounder Bruce  03:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from a fairly inexperienced wikipedian
Hello Bruce, I am a (fairly) new user here and I just want to know if my edits on Goodspaceguy meet this website’s standards.

thanks, and go Cougs! MrMcOrange (talk) 04:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The addition looks fine, but I think a secondary source (such as a reputable news website) would be better than just the voter records. While it's unlikely to be a case of mistaken identity, it's best to have another source that makes it clear that this Goodspaceguy is running and not some other Goodspaceguy.  Sounder Bruce  04:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks Bruce, but I highly doubt the other Goodspaceguys are running under the same party, but you never know, this state is a little odd at times. MrMcOrange (talk) 04:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Would count as a good source? MrMcOrange (talk) 05:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No. Ballotpedia is a borderline reliable source, but we can be more picky. Consider sources like The Seattle Times, Crosscut.com, or KUOW-FM.  Sounder Bruce  05:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, it just seems that no real news has come up on him, due to his everlasting presence in Washington’s politics the novelty of his campaigns have worn off. MrMcOrange (talk) 05:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)