User talk:SounderBruce/Archive 21

The Center Line: Winter 2015

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Gallery on Angle Lake (Link station)
I have no problem with my edits being undone when proper policy is cited, but you misused rollback when none of the relevant criteria applied. Conifer (talk ) 05:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I misclicked. I meant to undo your edit, but I accidentally used the rollback instead. My apologies.  Sounder Bruce  16:03, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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The Center Line: Spring 2015

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CenturyLink Field
Fuck it, do whatever you want. I don't care. But you seem to ignore the fact that the Sounders DID NOT play at CenturyLink in 2008 but rather at Starfire. http://web.archive.org/web/20080530023154/http://seattlesounders.com/gameschedule.php
 * Yes, the Sounders did not play at Qwest in 2008. The main issue I had was your merging of the USL and MLS entries together. I've fixed the years in the infobox, but please refrain from similar edits (such as the one you made to Stade Saputo) in the future.  Sounder Bruce  22:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The main issue with the Saputo Stadium edit was the fact the Academy team withdrew from the CSL, the PDL team that took over the Academy team folded after last season, and the USL Pro has been renamed. In my defense, it can be argued that it is the same franchise considering that teams switch leagues constantly (NASL to MISL/WSA in the 80s) but retain predominantly the same players. Steve Zungul was traded from the New York Arrows to San Jose and continued to play for the NASL franchise. Same can be said about players with teams promoted from the USL/NASL to MLS. Players would have to re-sign with the "new" MLS franchises since MLS players are registered with the league and not the respective teams. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a new franchise considering it is the same makeup.
 * Having to re-sign is a strong argument for the separate franchises stance that several editors (including myself) have taken. While being bold is nice, please assume good faith and talk it out with us.


 * In the future, please sign your posts. You also don't need to ping me on my talk page.  Sounder Bruce  01:58, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

1. By that logic, Rangers FC was founded in 2012 instead of 1872 and that page should be edited as well. 2. I barely know how Wikipedia works. -Crusty4545


 * Take a look at the FAQ on the Rangers F.C. talk page for the answer. The league considers it a continuation of the club and the league's word is a reliable source. By the same standard, MLS considers these clubs new and thus should not be merged together. You can seek help at the new contributors' help page on editing Wikipedia and abiding by its guidelines.  Sounder Bruce  02:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

How does that matter? The current New York Cosmos considers them a continuation of the former franchise. All they did was acquire the name from Pepe Pinton. Same can be said about the San Diego Sockers and the North American Soccer League. They haven't inherit anything but their name from the only franchises/league. Both Rangers and promoted MLS franchises have the same makeup and inherited players, coaches, owners, etc from the "previous franchises." And why would MLS reconigize their history pre-MLS if it has nothing to do with their league? Doesn't mean it's not a continuation of the franchise, it just means there's no relevance between the franchise's stint in the USL/NASL and MLS in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crusty4545 (talk • contribs) 02:35, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's all just a brand, really. They are separate entities that have separate entries in just about everything (state business records, USSF records, contracts, etc.) and thus need separate Wikipedia articles.  Sounder Bruce  03:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Agree, brand reconigtion=more revenue. But the current Rangers FC is seperate (http://imgur.com/NwFmH1t) from the "former" Rangers. Founded on 5/29/2012. If the Sounders are a new franchise, so should Rangers. Therefore their page should be edited as well.
 * You can bring it up on the Rangers talk page. The Rangers are a bit of a special case, though, so it won't be accepted.  Sounder Bruce  04:01, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Snohomish County, Washington
Hello SounderBruce, you corrected my dates in above. Now you find others between text and infobox. Regards -- Sweepy (talk) 18:24, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I reverted your edits because it falsely stated that there was a census in 2014. The 2014 numbers are only estimates released by the state and should not be the only figure listed on the lead or infobox.  Sounder Bruce  19:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Major League Soccer
Go to LA's page. Click on the link 'league's most decorated club' and it will take you to a --> WIKIPEDIA <-- page, the same one I provided a url towards, and you'll see LA at #2. That's the bottom line and everybody knows DC is #1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatiGOL85 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You cannot cite other Wikipedia articles. Please see our reference page on how to cite sources. I'd recommend using sources from the MLS website or an independent source before editing the MLS article any further.  Sounder Bruce  21:07, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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East Link vs East Link Extension
Does Sound Transit rename the segments when they come online, or will it be East Link Extension forever? Thought you might know. Brianhe (talk) 23:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The preliminary plan is to have service on East Link (from Northgate to Overlake) as the "Blue Line" and Northgate to Angle Lake as the "Red Line", according to a recent Northgate Link update and earlier plans from the 2012 station naming policy. The extension names (University, Northgate, Lynnwood, East, Federal Way, etc.) and Central Link will probably be retired and used solely to refer to the projects/history; we can probably keep and expand the extension articles independent of their lines, since they are interlined through the Northgate and University extensions (and possibly to Lynnwood). Interestingly, the Swift BRT network up in Snohomish County will also be switching from project names to colors very soon.  Sounder Bruce 
 * Interesting; maybe I'll add this to WP if it isn't already there. Brianhe (talk) 23:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd wait until Sound Transit officially releases the updated graphics and colors before we update the articles. I'm guessing they'll be ready before the University Link stations open early next year. Same goes for Swift, since I was told by CT staff that they'll be unveiling it before the 2015 general election in their run-up to a transit funding vote.  Sounder Bruce  23:43, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, maybe just an abbreviated version then. Brianhe (talk) 23:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

You have deleted all of my images, you mad bastard. Change it back!
And not even a note? Not any explanation at all? Why the fuck would you do that?? That's a super-great way to keep people contributing, don't you think? This is the SECOND time this has happened, and like I made perfectly clear the first time, if you had thought for one fucking second to look, these images are my husband's work. I'm uploading them with his explicit permission. We even changed the license on his website, of which I am the administrator (you didn't check that either did you??) to be compatible with wikimedia commons because the last asshole didn't believe me either.

I don't know how to fix this. It's a lot easier to do damage than to upload good content. You have done the damage and it is on you to fix it. Or perhaps I shall start deleting your work too?

Fix it now! Nate Wessel (talk) 11:20, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


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 * No, I was told that the images were deleted. That is not notification. That is action. Notification would give me a chance to defend myself. Nate Wessel (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


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Here is further evidence that this deletion was unwarranted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nate_Wessel#July_2015 I repeat my insistence that this change be reverted. I would also like to suggest that this user should have his ability to delete images revoked, as I think he has clearly abused the privilege by failing to do any research whatsoever before deleting and by failing to contact me first. Nate Wessel (talk) 14:52, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

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California Fires template
So the merge discussion is still ongoing, but what do you think of this: User:Zackmann08/California fires navbox? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I thought it would look like. Great work.  Sounder Bruce  01:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks my friend! What are your thoughts on the collapsible parts? I have mixed feelings... -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Have an option to have it in the collapsed state on a page (e.g. ). If it's possible, you could have two collapsed options: one for season pages (seasons shown, major fires collapsed), and another for major fire pages (seasons collapsed, major fires shown).  Sounder  Bruce  01:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Now THATS good thinking!! -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Check it out now. Even added some shortcuts. :-p What are your thoughts on the color scheme? Leave as is or use the orage from the other templates? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I'd keep the orange scheme from the infobox for consistency's sake. I'll be making the Washington navbox shortly.  Sounder Bruce  01:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good! On a personal note, I see you are up in Washington? Hope you are doing well with all those fires. Stay safe. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm on the west side, so there's not much of a chance of me being threatened by a wildfire. However, the smoke from a few fires is covering the area and causing all sorts of air quality warnings.  Sounder Bruce  01:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea I'm a fire photographer down in Southern California... Our season doesn't even start for a few more months. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 02:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * With the merger done, how do I archive the discussion? I always forget the template for that. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd wait for an admin to come along and close it. Just put a note saying the merger was finished.  Sounder Bruce  04:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Question, why not display the coords in the title as well? -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It was a bit distracting having a title with coord on a template page. They should really only appear in the article itself and can be omitted from examples.  Sounder Bruce  19:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

FACEPALM I just realized that you removed it only from the actual example, NOT from the preformatted sample code. My bad. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey. Something is going wrong with the image_size parameter... See the example below. Should default to 300px but it isn't. I can't figure out what is going wrong. Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing)


 * It's been fixed by importing/stealing some code from another infobox template.  Sounder Bruce  18:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I had no clue what the hell was going on there. Zackmann08  (Talk to me/What I been doing)

Template:California wildfires
Did you happen to see what was going on with Template:California wildfires? Curious what your thoughts are on the colors. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:16, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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Seagull intersection
Hello SounderBruce and nice to see You are on Wikipedia. Lets discuss about this edit in WA-99. Indeed, OSM does not list Broadway as part of the WA-99, but Google did. What about this Washington State Route 529? -- Hans Haase (有问题吗) 09:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You should definitely not be using Google Maps are the primary source for WA highway information, since it's very often inaccurate. The best sources would be the WSDOT State Highway Logs and the legislative definition of SR 99, both of which cite the Broadway Interchange (I-5, SR 99/Everett Mall Way, Broadway, SR 526 and SR 527) as the northern terminus. State Route 529, which you linked, is on a different segment of Broadway (at the very north end of Everett) and has never been on the stretch of Broadway where the seagull intersection is.  Sounder Bruce  17:04, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Great, thank You so much and thank You for the pictures. It is what I have been looking for. -- Hans Haase (有问题吗) 00:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The Center Line: Summer 2015

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Category:MAX Orange Line
I've seen your edits to a couple MAX Orange Line articles, so thought I'd point out to you that I have created redirects for some of the other MAX stations that are scheduled to open soon. I hope they are named correctly (I was just clicking on existing red links to create them). Please feel free to help expand these articles if you have any interest. Keep up the great work! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll go around and fill out those redirects into full articles once the line opens on Saturday. Cheers.  Sounder Bruce  20:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:55, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

/r/MLS
Hey SounderBruce, its Quidster4040 from reddit. I'm thinking of working on the article that was the first ever MLS match.

I'm guessing an apt title would be "San Jose Clash v D.C. United (April 1996)"? Quidster4040 (talk) 20:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think that match is notable enough (under the sports game guidelines) to have its own article beyond what could be covered in the season article. Please read over those notability guidelines, as well as the match article template, and look through some existing single-match non-cup articles (Category:Association football matches and its sub-categories). Happy editing.  Sounder Bruce  20:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, some of your sandboxes and other userpages might violate WP:WEBHOST. Be aware.  Sounder Bruce  20:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

New Lake Washington floating bridge
Hey SounderBruce, do you know if the new 520 bridge has a name? I'd like to update the Evergreen Point Floating Bridge article. We'll have to rejigger the lede to distinguish the Rosselini Memorial Bridge from the new bridge. As you've probably noticed it's nearly complete now. I took some shots from the air last week File:New 520 bridge August 2015 01.jpg and File:New 520 bridge August 2015 02.jpg (and a few more I didn't upload). — Brianhe (talk) 00:09, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * None that I know of yet. WSDOT will probably unveil the name at the ribbon-cutting ceremony next year or even keep the Evergreen Point/Governor Rosellini moniker. I've started a draft for the new replacement's own article based on the articles for the Bay Bridge and Tappan Zee replacements.  Sounder Bruce  00:14, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That's cool. I wonder if there are architectural drawings somewhere? I'd like to document the different parts of the bridge; it's interesting from an engineering point of view with a mix of floating sections, cantilevered sections and conventional beam sections on pilings. Also the deck-elevated-on-pontoon design is fascinating; do you know why that was chosen? Maybe I'll try my hand at making a side-view line drawing of it. — Brianhe (talk) 01:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This Flickr image from WSDOT has a side-view drawing and an explanation for the elevated design. The project library on WSDOT's SR 520 site probably has the architectural drawings, as it seems all projects nowadays publish them as appendices to their EIS.  Sounder Bruce  01:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Sporting Kansas City
Front Office is located in Missouri

http://www.sportingkc.com/contact-us

Sporting Kansas City (formerly Kansas City Wizards) from Kansas City, Missouri is one of the ten founding clubs of Major League Soccer. They are currently and have always been a Missouri team. Kansas does not have a major professional sports team, much less an MLS team. Sporting built a new stadium in Kansas City, Kansas in 2011 but has never changed locations. It is misleading to have Sporting Kansas City listed with a Kansas location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkeiltaylor (talk • contribs) 20:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, it looks good. I'd like to apologize for the revert of your edits (the MLS page attracts a lot of unwanted changes from new editors so it's policed by several editors). Please add that citation into the Sporting Kansas City article.  Sounder Bruce  20:52, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you guys are policing this and making sure it is accurate. I should have expected my change to be reverted since I didn't provide any citation. Thank you for your help.--Jkeiltaylor (talk) 23:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Wildland Firefighting
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New Wiki Project
Question... Would you have any interest in creating a new WikiProject Wildfires? We both seem to have a passion for editing these types of pages... Could be fun. As with all projects no obligations... Anyway let me know your thoughts. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:52, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe have it as a task force under the Disaster management or Firefighting wikiprojects for maximum exposure. I'd join but only work on Washington/Pacific Northwest articles for the most part.  Sounder Bruce  04:18, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Okanogan Complex Removal
The information was inaccurate stating the fire was not the largest in state history. By definition a "complex" is multiple fires in the same area. They do not need to merge to be considered "one" fire by the incident commander, the State of Washington and the Federal Government. Source: Firefighter who fought the fire in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.221.128.97 (talk) 11:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Your removal of content was not appropriate. I'm not an expert in the field, but at the very least including the national media's declaration and subsequent correction by a local newspaper is notable for inclusion.  Sounder Bruce  21:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Re: MAX Orange Line
Thank you for cleaning up the article titles and expanding articles for the stations. Much appreciated! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. The titles were bothering me a little and would probably mess up a few templates or redirects down the line.  Sounder Bruce  19:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was not sure of the best naming convention. Different sources use different titles (with or without street abbreviations, for example). Thanks again. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:06, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * When in doubt, use the official stop list and/or official map (the former here is preferred).  Sounder Bruce  23:08, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was going off the Catch the Orange website and/or signage at the stops themselves. But I totally yield to whatever you feel is more appropriate based on WP's own naming conventions. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There's actually a huge debate going on over at WT:USSTATION over these naming conventions and what sources to use (and whether to harmonize/standardize names across the board, which is kind of nuts). Lots of reading but might be worth a look.  Sounder Bruce  23:16, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Laabs
If you find time for it, please take a look at the article about Gustav Laabs. Any help is appreciated and I will of course add you to the DYK nom for the article.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Bridge issue
I know you removed the information from that article from me and another editor, and I do not take offense to that personally. My only issue is that the information has made national news (that is how I heard of it in Arizona from multiple news alerts on my phone), and has a lot of citations out there. I also assume that you meant to cite this page instead of the one you cited, as the other one just leads to a general disambiguation page. Anyways, there is a difference between a fatal (and unfortunately, routine) car accident on a bridge, and one that makes national news, especially since it appears that exchange students were involved. We could easily create tallies for bridge deaths if we wanted, but it would not make sense. At the same time, this is an event where the national press covered it, so there is clearly something going on here that warrants greater attention. I could understand how a regular death would not be worth mentioning, but this tragedy has so far killed twice as many as the bus incident right above it, and that one has been on the page for years. I am more than willing to add more citations though, as I am not comfortable keeping this information off the page as it stands right now. Finally, I do appreciate the fixing of that bus route though, as I misread that and did not catch the mistake until you caught that, so thanks for fixing that. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:30, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the diplomatic approach to this. I'm still waiting to see exactly what kind of lasting impact this accident will have on the bridge (the discussion is leaning towards reducing lanes and adding a median); the Metro bus accident managed to actually damage the bridge itself as well as force some changes in Metro policy (also the route number, which by itself isn't notable). I'll hold off on editing that article for now while awaiting the WSDOT/SDOT response.  Sounder Bruce  14:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Seattle Sounders FC
Listen Sounder Bruce. That is not repetition, all other MLS clubs have a year by year record and I place time and effort to make sure Seattle has one on their page as well. No one else says that is repetition and that Is frustrating when anyone says that and takes it off with ridiculous assumptions. It is for others to see their accomplishments on the page. Bluhaze777 (talk) 15:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It is repetition because there is already an article (at List of Seattle Sounders FC seasons that has the same exact table. The FA review for the Sounders article determined that it didn't need such a table, which would grow and eat up more and more of the page as time went on.  Sounder Bruce  15:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Tamil American
I invite you to the ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 04:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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East Link
With five or six East Links thruout the world, there is no reason to believe that Seattle's is more important than the others. East Link (Sound transit) is the non-ambiguous link. I redirected East Link to the disambiguation page, since the difference between a space and a hyphen isn't enough to make the name unambiguous. You'll notice that the links all display as East Link - meaning that East Link appears on the screen for the reader. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Editathon work
Hi SounderBruce, I see that you signed up for the UW editathon(s) and probably contributed while there. I've been trying to track as much of the resulting work as possible to gauge the success of the editathon and surrounding announcements. Would you mind adding tags to any articles that came out of that work, or if you prefer, tell me what you worked on and I will tag them? You can use UWRCWikiLab 8 for the last event, for instance. Thanks! - Brianhe (talk) 09:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks
for your welcome message. I see I should have disclosed that I am a librarian with the Washington State Department of Transportation before editing. That's now on my user page. Please forgive me. Apoultra (talk) 18:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It's alright, seeing as you're not here for nefarious reasons. Feel free to ask me any questions you have.  Sounder Bruce  19:41, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Westlake station name
I feel there's a good argument for our Link station being "Westlake station" on Wikipeda. The disambiguation page lists "Westlake / MacArthur Park" in Los Angeles and "West Lake" in Atlanta. So our station is the only "Westlake". Thoughts? --RickyCourtney (talk) 23:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the idea has merit (same with your Pioneer Square move...which steps on the toes of Portland's similarly-named stations), but I'd rather not try and complicate things even more right now. Let things cool off and re-propose the idea.  Sounder Bruce  23:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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Seeking advice
Hello SounderBruce, I need your advice.

Over the past 40-some years, the Washington State Department of Transportation has published hundreds of research reports, you can see the list here: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Research/Reports/

Most of the research is done by third parties, often universities. We would like to make these reports available through Wikipedia since it is so widely used.

However, is it a violation of the "No original research" tenet to write an article on the subject of a report and then cite that report? For example an article on Compost Leachates (one does not currently exist) and refer back to this report?

Experimental Evaluation of Compost Leachates. Abtract: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Research/Reports/800/848.1.htm Full text: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/research/reports/fullreports/848.1.pdf

Thanks Apoultra (talk) 21:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reaching out, It is absolutely not a violation of the original research policy to cite those reports. In fact, it's encouraged as a core tenant of Wikipedia (as part of the Verifiability policy), as these are considered reliable sources by virtue of being government-produced documents.


 * I also suggest looking into the GLAM ("galleries, libraries, archives, and museums") initiative, which helps librarians like you share resources with Wikipedia. I can bring in some other local editors (who meet up regularly in Seattle) who have more experience with the program and the process. I'd be more than happy to work with you especially, since I have a huge interest in local transportation that has been greatly helped by WSDOT's online resources.  Sounder Bruce  22:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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North Korea
Thanks for the edit to the ref - it's 0430am and I don't want to start messing about with wikicode at this time of the morning, but also didn't want to miss the responses - so thanks for for cleaning that up for me! :) Calvinkarpenko (talk) 04:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's only 8 p.m. here, so I'll try to keep it updated and growing as long as I can. I'm quite surprised there wasn't an article up even earlier.  Sounder Bruce  04:36, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries - I anticipate that it will be accepted as a headline so more editors will contribute as the day passes. I was surprised as well actually - I expected there to be one full of information by the time I checked - as tends to be the case. Calvinkarpenko (talk) 04:39, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Linkrot
You just posted Linkrot on both Mike O'Brien (Seattle politician) and Ventura County Line. I have contributed to neither of those are articles, though I clearly believe in link rot as I discuss in my user page. So its not my "laziness" you are complaining about. But I will complain about your laziness. If you read the link rot tag you just defaced those articles with, it tells you how to use refill. Instead of leaving that obnoxious tag on the top, if you are so concerned about link rot, do something about it. Just push the button and wait. Then you have fixed the "problem" you detected, you can be satisfied and you don't bother someone else to clean up the mess you left. That would be doing wikipedia some good. The average reader sees stuff like that tag on the top of the article and thinks there is something wrong. It hurts the overall credibility of wikipedia. I clearly don't believe there is anything wrong with the link rot in the first place but needless tags bother me. That's the problem I'm trying to solve by talking to you. You are the one bothered by by the link rot. As an experienced editor, if you care, when you see a problem you should also fix it, rather than leaving a tag announcing your single opinion that there is something wrong with the article to the entire world. Trackinfo (talk) 04:13, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The average reader doesn't care for tags at all. A few uses of a tag (one that exists and is well-used enough to be integrated into Twinkle) will not bring down Wikipedia's credibility. Being called out on my "laziness" is irritating, considering that my goal here is to write content and not necessarily to be janitor. If I come across a problem, I flag and tag, and some kinder soul will come along and acknowledge and correct the issue; this is a normal process and perfectly fine, as it is used commonly off-wiki in the real world.  Sounder Bruce  05:45, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * is exactly the laziness I referred to. Leave the problem, the problem nobody else saw, for somebody else to fix.  Drive by tagging.  If you found a body lying in the middle of a road, would you help, or just call 911 and keep driving? Trackinfo (talk) 06:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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