User talk:Southalltraveluk

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Help request
Hi, I am completely new to wikipedia.

I am working for a company called "Southall Travel" based in Southall, UK.

I just wish to get the company profile listed on Wikipedia.

I have tried to get the most relevant information and have cited the references published by external reliable sources.

However, it has been declined twice.

Now, I received a message from Wikipedia about "Conflict of Interest". Can't really seem to understand the same. I am not trying to get any incorrect information. All I am trying to do is get the company profile online to the best of my knowledge.

Even after citing reliable sources such as PRWeb and Fast Track, the content is being rejected for some reason.

Can someone please help me as to what exactly do I need to do to get the content online. Also, not sure about the "COI" part either.

Thanks! Southall Travel 04:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a business directory. Unless Southall Travel is notable for something other than day to day business, then it is unlikely to be approved for inclusion on Wikipedia. Feel free to ask more questions here if you have any. -- Patchy1 08:59, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * A number of issue here...
 * Firstly, as a matter of priority, you need to change your username immediately - it currently violates the username policy (it's the name of a company) and you may be blocked at any time for this violation. I won't block you myself, since to do so would be cruel, but any other passing admin might well do so.


 * Secondly, since you work for the company, you have a very clear conflict of interest. This is apparent from the tone of your submission at Articles for creation; statements like "the firm’s highly user-friendly website", "the agency has recorded a significant double digit growth", "a comprehensive menu of travel products and services", "its state-of-the-art global customer contact centre" and so on are blatantly promotional in tone - the fact that you are apparently unable to see this indicates that you are not the appropriate person to author this article.


 * There do appear to be sufficient other sources in the article to meet the notability requirements. However, the article's promotional tone makes it entirely unsuitable for the encyclopedia in its present form. It needs to be completely rewritten in neutral language, and as I just explained, you do not seem to be the best person to do that. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  09:09, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: While I was drafting this message, Yunshui answered your request for help. However, since I have written it I may as well still post it here. You may find it helpful.
 * There seem to be several problems. Perhaps the most important one is that your submission does not show that your business satisfies Wikipedia's notability standards. At least some of the sources you give are business promotion sites, press release services, etc, and I cannot see anything that could be regarded as substantial coverage in a reliable independent source. Also, the article, while not written in such blatant promotional terms as some that I have seen, reads more like an advertisement than like an encyclopaedia article. Wikipedia does not exist to serve as a medium for businesses to publish what you call "company profiles", or to make public the image of themselves that they wish to promulgate. The intention of Wikipedia is to make available independent, third party, accounts of subjects which have established notability by being the subject of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. As for the issue of "conflict of interest", there are various forms that this can take. At its worst, there are people who come here and try to use Wikipedia as a free advertising service, by posting blatant advertising hype. I do not think that you fall into that category, but even if you genuinely intend to post plain objective information, your involvement in the subject is likely to give you a perspective which is different from that of an uninvolved outsider. Time and again I have seen people come to write on Wikipedia about their business, who quite clearly genuinely cannot see how what they are writing will look to detached, uninvolved, readers, and consequently produce writing which reads as promotional, even if they are trying not to do so. It would not be difficult to remove the most clearly promotional pieces of language in your draft article, such as "the firm’s highly user-friendly website", but the problem is not so much with such details but with the overall tone and character of the piece as a whole. An editor with a potential conflict of interest should exercise great care even when making small factual corrections to an existing article, and should probably completely avoid writing a new article on the subject they are involved in. However, putting that aside, I will briefly return to the issue of notability. Rather than just rely on what you have put in your proposed article, I have also made my own searches for information about your company, and I have found nothing whatever anywhere that could reasonably be described as substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. My conclusion is that the business does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. In that case, any article on the subject is likely to be deleted, no matter who writes it or how it is written. No amount of rewriting an article will change the notability of the subject of the article.


 * I hope the comments I have written will help to clarify the issues for you. If you want further information on the issues involved, there are many pages of guidelines, policies etc that may be relevant (far too many of them, in my opinion, making Wikipedia a confusing and at times intimidating place for newcomers). Some of them are available from links in the message at the top of this page. However, perhaps the single best place to look is FAQ/Organizations. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Southall Travel concern
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Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Southall Travel


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)