User talk:SovalValtos/Archives/2018/November

Wikibreak
Good to see you're back. Best wishes,  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  21:40, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Seconded by me.

Have you considered archiving the old stuff on this page. I have a bot look after mine so I never have to spend time on it.Charles (talk) 09:47, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Tony Holkham and Charles thank you for your thoughts. I had tried archiving and found it difficult but will have another go at following the instructions. SovalValtos (talk) 04:32, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * If you open my whole talk page for editing you will find the cluebot archive box code near the the top. If you copy and paste that, substituting your user name, it should do the job once the bot gets round to do it.Charles (talk) 08:41, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have now managed to follow the instructions so will leave well alone until next time that it needs doing when I may well use the bot.SovalValtos (talk) 22:15, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

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Revolutionary War listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Revolutionary War. Since you had some involvement with the Revolutionary War redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Appah Rao (talk) 3:07 am, Today (UTC−3)

Camp 020
Why did you revert my edit on Camp 020? The Belgian Jacques de Duve was in Camp 020 from the 1st of February 1944 to the 3rd of February 1945 (The National Archives KV 2/1314). It is quite a spectacular case as he was not a German spy but on the contrary wanted to reveal some secrets of the Wehrmacht to the Allies (the Rocket launching site in St. Omer and other). He had been sent to England by three German resisters: Werner Akermann (Abwehr), Friedrich Joseph Pungs (manager of the firm "Zimmer & Co." in Lille / France and communist, husband of Elisabeth Pungs), Hermann Taaks ("Referat Vauck"). I have written a detailed report about that (more than 100 pp., in German) and a short overview (12, in English) - if you send me your email adress, I could send them to you.--Le Huic (talk) 20:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Le Huic as I explained in my edit summary [] 'Very likely true, but a source is not given and one is needed'. The English Wikipedia policy is set out in the page Verifiability. People using the encyclopedia should not have to ask for a source to be sent by email. Your report and its overview might be of use as a source, depending, for example, on whether they have been published by a publisher with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. There might be problems if you wanted to use your own original work as a source in an article on a related subject.SovalValtos (talk) 20:58, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Abingdon-on-Thames
I take offence at your reverting of my edit to my hometown of Abingdon-on-Thames. I took the opportunity to update what was a very outdated article in places only for you to revert the edit claiming that I had introduced "unverified opinion". Far from it - in fact I had updated information, made it more accurate and amended old references to the past tense. I am highly insulted that you think an old, out of date article is clearly more appropriate for Wikipedia than an updated one. I will be reinstating my edits. Oxfordmale (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I am sorry that that you have taken offence Oxfordmale. You have no reason to believe that I think "an old, out of date article is clearly more appropriate for Wikipedia than an updated one". I did think, and still do, that your edit was not an improvement as it introduced unsourced material. I am pleased that in replacing it you have taken the opportunity to remove some of the unsourced material and add a citation. Please discuss edits to the article on its talk page.SovalValtos (talk) 08:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Twinkle
I am trying out the use of twinkle. If anyone spots my errors I would be grateful for assistance.SovalValtos (talk) 19:45, 9 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I have no experience with WP tools so probably could not help; however, I would be interested in your view of Twinkle in due course.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  21:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Tony Holkham. I am taking it cautiously, so although I have found a couple of time saving aspects I will wait until I have learnt to walk before I report further.SovalValtos (talk) 12:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Llechryd
Hello SovalValtos. You undid my edits to Llechryd. It looks as if I removed a citation needed comment in error. Was there really a need to revert everything? The photo I uploaded is my copy of one that is readily available here in West Wales, and on the internet. As far as I was aware, any pictures over 150 years old are out of copyright, this one is c1868, so just about falls into that. I will be putting things back as I had left them, and will reinsert the citation comment. Unless you wish to do so for me. I am not an experienced user and it takes me time to do anything. Regards Sugworth
 * User:Sugworth  You will find that the image concerned, which I think you uploaded, may be deleted from Wikimedia Commons as the uploader (you?) did not provide sufficient information on the media's copyright status. If you click on the image on the Llechryd page and then on 'More details' you will see. Meanwhile I suggest you do not replace the edits I reverted until you have read the info I have placed on your talk page. Please when adding a new comment to a user's talk page do so via the tab "New Section" at the top which will give you the opportunity to add a title to the new section and place it at the bottom of the page rather than the top as you did. Please also sign your comments with four tildes. I sympathise with your difficulties, there is so much to understand.SovalValtos (talk) 22:17, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Tregaron
The gallery you've removed without reasonable explanation did in fact serve the special purpose of showing readers what Tregaron is like, and illustrating features like the river, the 13th-century hotel, and other built heritage. And what makes you believe an extraneous image of a ruin (which is not even in Tregaron and is not mentioned in the article) has any special purpose. Before making such drastic edits, I would urge you to initiate diuscussion on the Talk page. Bjenks (talk) 10:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Bjenks please use the Tregaron talk page for continuing comments on its content. I am opening a section there.SovalValtos (talk) 12:31, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Muzaffarnagar
Hello Climate data of muzaffarnagar which I have edit is provided by indian metereological Dept. Pan145 (talk) 13:27, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you Pan145 for now adding the required source and replacing the Ref list.SovalValtos (talk) 18:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Duniya Vijay
Hello, I noticed you have reverted the changes which I had made to the wikipedia site - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duniya_Vijay.

1. Please note, the first edit which i made was to his wife which is Keerthi Pattadi, You can verify this claims by visiting the page - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/kannada/movies/news/The-Vijay-and-Keerthi-interview/articleshow/54310601.cms.

Please help restore this content.


 * 2. I have removed the section regarding Maasthigudi Incident on this page because the ban on Duniya Vijay was overturned, You can verify this claims by visiting the page - https://regional.pinkvilla.com/kannada/news/duniya-vijay-not-responsible-death-stuntmen-anil-uday/ **

3. I have made an edit to the photo of the person with a new photo and a caption to read "Duniya Vijay" only as opposed to "Duniya Vijay at Kasi (Beneras)". Kindly note, Duniya Vijay is a person's name while Kasi (Beneras) is a place. Which is the reason I have removed Kasi (BEneras). You can see Kasi (Beneras) is a place by visiting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varanasi.


 * This photo was captured by me, hence there is no copyright violation. Request you to kindly help restore the image and oblige.**

Hope these details help.

Thanks, Prasanna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasannasomayaji (talk • contribs) 14:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * - The Maasthigudi deaths were a significant event that impacted the subject. The content shouldn't be deleted, it should be expanded with current information, i.e. that Vijay wasn't charged, which I have done. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for expanding Duniya Vijay Cyphoidbomb, and finding a source.SovalValtos (talk) 16:35, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Admin
Can you perhaps ask an admin to watch this editor's constant unwarranted deletions? Thanks. --2604:2000:E016:A700:48AD:F0AC:6ECD:35D6 (talk) 03:59, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * User talk:2604:2000:E016:A700:48AD:F0AC:6ECD:35D6 although I have made quite a lot of edits I am not sure how to bring something to an administrator's attention without researching the process, and it may not be needed anyway. Regarding the removals from the lead/lede on Charles Dutoit I think the way forward is to go to the talk page Talk:Charles Dutoit rather than continuing to revert the IP User:146.52.252.124. You would not want to be involved in an edit war. It is likely that an admin might be watching the page as it is a WP:BLP in the news. I hope that helps.SovalValtos (talk) 06:35, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


 * WP:ANI is the place to go, but it is complex.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  11:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you User:Tony Holkham for the link. It should not be needed if we ALL use the new section I started on the page Talk:Charles_Dutoit to resolve differences of opinion, rather than serial reverting. Admins have enough to do already.SovalValtos (talk) 11:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Deal, Kent reversions
Dear SovalValtos

I notice you have removed four pictures that I added to the Notables section of Deal in Kent. You say ''Undue weight having images for notables in a list. Better on linked pages)'' I disagree with your view and I'm unhappy that you impose your view by making deletions. I feel they add a little colour and life to the words of the article and the mixture of photos makes for an attractive contrast. This is particularly so, for example, between Hawtrey and Arbuthnot.

I see from other contributors to your talk pages that others have been unhappy about your deletions. Might I gently suggest you reflect on the how much deletings you are doing and think twice or three times before imposing your aesthetic opinion about the merits of using photographs.

Might I recommend, please, that you now revert your own edit and reinstate the four photos.

ArbieP (talk) 11:48, 28 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ArbieP The portraits of notable people you added to the Deal, Kent article do more to illustrate the individuals than they do Deal. Using images to illustrate each of four one line entries in the notable people section is IMHO giving the individuals undue weight. It is not as if any of them had a major impact on Deal. Even with adding images for just four of the over 20 listed, they extend outside the section in desktop view. I was amused that you thought I was imposing my aesthetic opinion when you had said ..the mixture of photos makes for an attractive contrast. I have no aesthetic objection; they were just put in the wrong article. Please comment on Talk:Deal, Kent if you were to intend to persist so that others can see. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 04:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Dear SovalValtos

Talk:Deal,_Kent

ArbieP (talk) 17:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Madeley, Staffordshire reversions
Dear SovalValtos

For the second time today, I see you have made reversions by deleting photographs in the section on notable people. This time it is for Madeley in Staffordshire. In particular you have deleted the picture of Gordon Banks. I can advise you from first-hand knowledge that he is very warmly regarded in these parts. For you not to allow his picture to be shown in the article on his home village page is outrageous. May I politely albeit firmly request that you stop making these deletions and get a second and third opinion about what you are doing, please.

ArbieP (talk) 12:13, 28 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ArbieP If indeed Gordon Banks' home village is Madeley there could be an argument for including an image of him. However we do not know that is the case as it is not sourced in the article. Unfortunately your first-hand knowledge is not good enough for Wikipedia. I thought his origins were in or near Sheffield, which also is not good enough. When a reliable source has been added for his connection with Madeley on the Madeley page I might not oppose the inclusion of his image even though his living there is not central to the subject of the article and there is a Gordon Banks article where an image is justified.  Please discuss further on the Madeley talk page. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 20:01, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Dear SovalValtos

Madeley, Staffordshire article now updated with a link from the local newspaper confirming he lives there. My guess is, that the local people might be quite pleased to see him there; I hope you don't have a problem with this.

ArbieP (talk) 22:35, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit warring
Please refer to the discussion taking place on the discussion page rather than engage in edit warring. Regards. --KirkVHouten (talk) 04:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I find that you have been blocked indefinitely KirkVHouten so hopefully no more unfounded allegations.SovalValtos (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Nottingham Academy
?WP:OR. My judgement is we have a very young, inexperienced - who has markup talent. The single issue stuff he has started to produce is very useful in that it is giving leads to what the story should be- but he hasn't picked up WPs register, I will tx this to the talkpage where we can have a look at it.

He does produce a reference in free text at the bottom- that I hadn't come across. I hope that I can find one cheap on line or at Geoff Bloors Bookshop in Sherwood-- maybe even in Sherwood library. I can now google the 1992 fire that I didn't know about too, and that diversion Has pointed by towards a new archive. I am happy to play along and do regular cleanups- as I think he has potential. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ClemRutter I put a belated welcome on her/his talk page before adding a general note on sourcing. It will be good to see sourced material on the Nottingham Academy page. Your idea of User:Naathaniel using a sandbox should (with your help if wanted) avoid further problems.SovalValtos (talk) 19:48, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

User:ClemRutter All information regarding the former Nottingham Academy school (Jesse Boot) was provided with the Jesse Boot History Book published to all students and staff at The Jesse Boot School in 2005 I also was provided the Jesse Boot History Project's Information which was updated during fall of 2017. The Information featured in the 2005 history booklet was provided by the Nottinghamshire Archives. I'm unsure what I can reference from this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naathaniel (talk • contribs) 21:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Naathaniel you left a space before your text above which was an error that made your edit difficult to read. I am correcting it by removing the extraneous space. Please use the 'Show preview' facility to check your edits before publishing them. I will make more comments but will break them down into separate edits.SovalValtos (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Naathaniel please sign your edits on talk pages with four tildes.SovalValtos (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The 'Jesse Boot History Book' has been mentioned. Who published it? Depending on whether it can be considered a reliable published source or not,  it may be useable for referencing. The information provided by the Nottinghamshire Archives presumably is based on documents in their possession. Their archivist should be able to help with identifying which documents/books are the source of the material you want to reference. Hopefully they will be familiar with Wikipedia requirements. I am impressed by your tenacity Naathaniel; please do not be put off if I have muddled things rather than helping. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 23:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you visited the Teahouse Naathaniel? You were invited there on your talk page a while back and they are good at answering new editor's questions.SovalValtos (talk) 12:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

User:SovalValtos The Jesse Boot History Booklet as im am currently aware was published by the school itself, but i will contact the Head of The Jesse Boot School who was present during 2005 and get more information and maybe a reference. naathaniel (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:03, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

User:SovalValtos Hello! I have got into contact with a teacher at the Nottingham Academy Greenwood Road Site who issued me the book. The headmaster who was present at the time has just retired so there is no getting into contact with her. I was told a teacher who went by the name Miss Kelly until she was later married produced the book giving it to students who attended the school in 2005, as mentioned before the booklet included information provided by the Archives. But the teacher no longer works at the school therefore i was not able to see for any sort of reference and i'm unsure if anything can be used as a reference in this case. naathaniel (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:57, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Teri Talk
Maybe the Wikipedia text (with a citation request on there you seem happy to remain for over two years and seem to be making little effort to find yourself) has largely been copied from this 2011 book? Regards.--Kieronoldham (talk) 22:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't mean to sound abrasive there. I just try and find citations on here from time to time.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Kieronoldham apology accepted. I think a discussion about improving the Hawick article would be better on the Hawick talk page. I added the citation requests after making efforts to find sources and failing, or having come to the conclusion that sources were unlikely to be found. I was still wanting to give others the chance to cite before removing the material. Thank you for trying. Have you taken steps to deal with the possible copyvio you have identified? My opinion is that the text in the 2011 Langholm book is more likely to be a mirror of Wikipedia content that was added by an IP in 2006 than Wikipedia to be a copyvio and hence is no more use as a source than several other mirrors I found when looking. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 04:28, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * A discussion may be appropriate. Admittedly I have only looked limitedly, but again I only see very limited attempts and attention. I agree with your observation regarding the book citation I linked previously & that's partly why I included it. Maybe you and I could try and verify this and other issues? Kez.--Kieronoldham (talk) 04:46, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Dispute resolution Climate Weather Box
Dear Wikipedian,

Given the lack of consensus on the inclusion of a weather box for the Selsey article talk page, I have requested a dispute resolution.

Dispute_resolution_noticeboard

Best Regards Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies for saying you had made a suggestion climate box when you had not. (In retrospect I think if was someone else who mentioned it). I've put the apology on your talk page rather than the DRN as it might distrupt the flow a little.Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies for saying you had made a suggestion climate box when you had not. (In retrospect I think if was someone else who mentioned it). I've put the apology on your talk page rather than the DRN as it might distrupt the flow a little.Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Dispute resolution -- Charles Dutoit
Hi. re: Charles Dutoit. I have just posted a request for dispute resolution at the Dispute resolution noticeboard. Here's the link -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Charles_Dutoit I ask all interested editors to take a moment and present their side of the story on the noticeboard. Thanks for your willingness to discuss.--Jburlinson (talk) 00:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the request for dispute resolution has been closed for the following reason: "Closed as not meeting the prerequisites of this noticeboard. The filing editor states accurately that User:Petrov2017 is not engaging in discussion on the article talk page. However, discussion on the article talk page is a prerequisite to discussion here. Participation here is voluntary, for editors who have tried to discuss and have not agreed; editors who do not discuss cannot be dragged here. See the essay on failure to discuss, and the edit-warring policy. Options for the filing party (and other editors who agree with them) include filing a report at the edit-warring noticeboard after providing a warning."   After sharing this with Petrov2017, I intend to warn him that my next step is to file a report at the edit-warring noticeboard.  Sorry for taking up space on your talk page.--Jburlinson (talk) 02:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Hereford and imdb
Thanks for providing the link - it was that which alerted me to the fact that for some reason, I was not able to access the quotes directly from the website! (It also illustrates in my mind one reason why I tend to prefer hard copy as reliable sources rather than websites). Once again, thank you, and sorry for the problems. DDStretch   (talk)  20:15, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem User:ddstretch. I think the removal of Ronin should wait a short while to give others time to comment. Having glanced through the Hereford article I see plenty to improve.SovalValtos (talk) 20:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Pembrokeshire GA
Thanks, SV, very much for your enormous help in getting Pembrokeshire to GA status.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  12:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * As you know, Tony, my contributions are paltry. You are the one that deserves thanks for your tolerance. Praise, especially when laid on with the trowel of a Wikipedia master-builder is appreciated.SovalValtos (talk) 04:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Your contributions are not just about edits, but imagination and balance, both of which are as valuable. But I won't be too kind if you won't be too modest...  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  09:55, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Darft submission
Dear SovalValtos please review this article and tell what area need more resource and what area i can remove it so that it can be published on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Walid_Mushtaq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pak-work (talk • contribs) 04:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your enquiry User:Pak-work. I cannot help you other than advise you to pay attention to User:Chrissymad's comments made on 16 January 2018 when the submission was declined. Have you considered that Walid Mushtaq may not be notable in Wikipedia's special meaning of the term? WP:ADVENTURE is helpful. Creating new articles is difficult, so perhaps spending time on helping improve other articles might be the quickest way for you to learn what is needed.SovalValtos (talk) 04:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Help getting started
Dear SovalValtos I wonder if you can help me. You left a welcome message on my page (thank you very much for that). I have been reading a lot on here and I guess I am probably slightly apprehensive about making larger, detailed edits and having them reverted. Do you have any tips or tricks, or perhaps a good guide on here about how to make meaningful edits. Thank you very much. Sazp1985 (talk) 16:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You seem to be doing fine Sazp1985. There is no need to be apprehensive about being reverted, all editors are from time to time, and we learn by our mistakes. I have no special tips or tricks other than to recommend following the blue links in the welcome message. I found I learnt from following the Teahouse answers, there are some good editors making replies. Add pages to your watchlist that are of interest and see what edits are made and particularly what happens on the talk pages. You will find plenty of pages where citations have been requested or sections have been tagged for reference improvement. You could try finding sources where possible. User:Charlesdrakew has been helpful to me and may be able to link you to a guide to editing. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 20:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I shall give it a go!

Best

ereSazp1985 (talk) 23:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

More Help!
Hi,

I hope all is well with you. I wondered, as you were very helpful last time, if you could assist with something. I made some edits to a page for Joe Blackman. I do know of him and I thought it would serve as a useful start to do more substantial edits about someone you know a little about already. I was extremely cautious of maintaining NPOV and so hated this in mind with my edits. Another editor has now removed the majority of my edits, but also has really slashed significant amounts of referenced content from this page. I actually think the page now is far worse than before, and their editing pattern looks quite biased. A lot of good content has gone and the edits do seem a bit biased. They have made the edits as lots of individual edits. I have read up the reversion policy and it only allows a maximum of three - which I think would skew the article. Should I just try rewriting it and adding back in the references? Do you think an administrator could otherwise revert their edits? I wasn’t sure how best to handle this. I am cautious also of changing the article fully back, as I also don’t want to get accused of edit warring? Sazp1985 (talk) 08:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Sazp1985 (talk) 08:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back in touch. Rather than going into detail I shall make some general observations. You have done the right thing by taking your concerns to the article talk page. Give people plenty of time to respond, a week or three may be needed. The edit summary saying 'these unsourced personal details are dead giveaways for conflicted editing' is I think intended to suggest that you might have a conflict of interest. The special Wikipedia meaning of a COI is explained in WP:COI. I do not know if you do have a COI or not but they can easily occur if editing an article where you have personal involvement such as having been employed by or knowing a person socially. Having said that,editing an an article where you know some background makes it easier to edit. You may know of the person by reading a local paper. I sometimes have trouble when editing an article about a person or place in a foreign country knowing whether a change that has been made is vandalism using a rude word or a good faith attempt at improvement. It is always worth bearing in mind the exact subject of an aricle. Joe Blackman is about the person rather than companies he has been associated with, so be careful not to write with undue weight about the companies. It could be considered 'off topic'.
 * I think you may misunderstand the three reversion policy. If someone has made 37 small edits in a row and you were to revert the most recent 23, it would only count as one reversion. My experience is that I have never had to seek out an administrator, they seem to turn up if needed. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 11:38, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Basingstoke
Thanks for your edit re the M4. I completely misread the sentence. I think however if I were to drive from Basingstoke to the M4 to go west I'd use the A339 so it may be a bit misleading to mention the M4 at all here. Spinney Hill (talk) 00:23, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. It seems to be a rather wordy section which could benefit from a precis and a bit more on airports, but I would leave it for now. It should not be a transport guide. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 07:07, 20 February 2018 (UTC)