User talk:Space Cadet/Archive 2

Hi Space Cadet
Could you look from time to time on certain articles like Martin Chemnitz for example.Some people don't know that Krolewiec was just a Polish fief during certain times and erase its proper Polish name version. --Molobo 21:39, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Hartknoch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kant_Russian_State_University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Goldbach this need attention. --Molobo 22:07, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Narodowość Kopernika
Jakby znowu próbowano zniemczyć Kopernika: czołowy światowy serwis o astronautyce i eksploracji kosmosu Space.com definiuje go jako Polskiego astronoma: http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/marsmadness/ W trzeciej odsłonie. Pozdrawiam. --Molobo 13:05, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Translation of Polish articles
Space Cadet said: I volunteer to translate 5 articles from Polish. Just pick them and leave me a message on my talk.

At the moment I'm slowly making my way through the list of Polish football players, although I wouldn't mind salvaging Piotr Bartkowiak (http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piotr_Bartkowiak) as soon as possible before it is deleted. How is that for you? I'm not worried about work-rate, I can normally get these done quite quickly, even though I don't speak Polish well, I can muddle my way through the little I know and get Poltran to do most of the rest.

Thank you for volunteering to do this. If you know anyone else that would be useful to talk to, could you please let me know? Thank you. Bobo192 13:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Space Cadet said: I got Bartkowiak, give me four more, please. Unfortunately I don't know anybody else who would be willing to do this.

Okay. The next five I was going to work on were Piotr Bania, Antoni Barwiński, Marcin Baszczyński, Edmund Białas and Bartosz Białkowski. It's difficult to find other people to do this, I know, but it's also hard to find enough people who speak Polish fluently around here. Thank you for your co-operation. Bobo192 14:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

East Prussia
Hi there. You mentioned a compromise at the edit summary. I'd like to know what's on your mind. I'm all ears. Regards,  Sh ' a ' uri   smile!  15:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough, Space Cadet. The article now looks more neutral, carefully worded and fine to me. Have a nice weekend!  Sh ' a ' uri   smile!  15:55, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Spasibo

 * No offence taken, thanks man. Could you please take a look Talk:Kiev, I would be interested in your opinion. Thanks, --Irpen 18:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Sources for Lithuania
Could you give sources for "The Polish population was expelled after 1945" in Lithuania article? Because as far as I know, that's not true. And without sources it's unverifiable and thus should not be here. Renata3 00:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * But were they expelled or moved out voluntary? Like thousands of russiands voluntary moved from Lithuania in 1990's after declaration of independence, but nobody forced them to leave. If you do find something to back up your story besides dentist family, then please provide a little more information about it. And my name is Renata, not reniu. Renata3 03:12, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The same goes for Ukraine and Belarus. The same anon user added the same sentence to those articles too. And I did not know about Reniu... Renata3 13:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There are two things I don't like about it: (1) it was added by anon IP who is clearly pro-Polish and potentially is very POV and (2) this sentence is not backed up by any other info (by who, when, where, why, how many, etc.) and thus is very suspicious. If it is true, please provide more info so no one will have any doubts about this. As far as Lithuania goes, there are lots of Poles living around Vilnius so the entire population clearly could not be expelled. So I question this "fact." I don't know about Ukraine or Belarus, but I just see a suspicious patern here and I don't like it. Renata3 17:21, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Molobo, Gdansk
You are simplistic. Nobody says that Texas should be (or Gdańsk should have been) returned anywhere. It's just obvious that if Texas ever becomes a part of Mexico, the respective article should say returned. Your putting words in Molobo's mouth and accusing him of desire to have anybody expelled or killed is childish and ridiculous. Your calling him an ultranationalist is highly offensive and unacceptable. Space Cadet 02:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't agree. It would be one thing if some province or provinces of Country A were occupied for a relatively short time by Country B, then returned to Country A, as was the case with Nazi Germany's occupation and (attempted) annexation of the so-called "Wartheland" in 1939. This area was indeed returned to Poland, only 5 years after it's detachment. Although the Nazis persecuted the Poles living there and expelled quite a number of them to what remained of Poland at the time (the so-called "Gouvernement General"), the area didn't lose its Polish character, and this act of geopolitical theft was not accepted internationally, as it was an act of aggression.

It's different when an area goes from one country or national group to another gradually over a long period of time in which the area develops in accordance with the later country or national group's culture and economy, and becomes thoroughly populated by the later nation. This was the case with the parts of Germany annexed by Poland and the Soviet Union at Stalin's insistence in 1945. They had been gradually Germanized over a period of centuries beginning in about 1250.

In the modern era, Germans from these areas contributed much to German culture and commerce. Silesia, Pomerania, Danzig and East Prussia were distinct regions of the German realm, and their loss was for Germany like an amputation of limbs from the body. I realize that this cataclysm was set in motion by German aggression and atrocities, but that does not change the fact that what happened to the Germans of this region was in every sense an act of ethnic cleansing, and the second-largest example of it in recorded history. This should not be ignored.

My analogy with the former Mexican states of the U.S. is not a perfect one – all analogies break down somewhere – but it does offer one notable parallel: When part of Mexico, this area was thinly populated; after it became part of the U.S., it developed quickly and within half a century was home to growing cities that became important to the U.S. economically and culturally. Today California is the most populous state in the U.S., with a population over 30 million. When it was Mexican, it had perhaps a few hundred thousand inhabitants.

In broad terms, development of a similar magnitude occurred in Silesia, Pomerania, Danzig and East Prussia during the centuries they were within the German "reach." Major German cities developed – Breslau, Stettin, Danzig, Königsberg – and before WWII the territories were home to about 10 million Germans. In relation to Germany's population, this was roughly comparable to the proportion of Americans who live in the ex-Mexican states today.

Space Cadet, please understand I am not suggesting the territories should be given back to Germany now or ever, nor do any Germans outside the lunatic fringe suggest that. I'm just saying that this whole episode was a very major geopolitical and ethnographic upheaval in recent times, and should be known along with all the other horrors of the WWII era.

Sca 20:04, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Just a tidbit of information, there is a substantial movement in Germany calling for Stettin (Szcezcin... I can't spell it, so I use Stettin) to be returned to Germany, as it is west of the Oder River -- perhaps one day if Russia cedes Kaliningrad (Königsburg) to Poland? Antman 02:43, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Over the last several years, I've heard more rumors of the Kaliningrad Oblast being returned to Germany (who doesn't want it). This is the first I've heard of anything regarding Szczecin. Olessi 20:08, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

edit summaries
Please avoid inflamatory or misleading edit summaries. --Irpen 20:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Violation of 3RR
You have been blocked from editing for 24 hours as result of breaking 3RR on Kulturkampf. Please refrain from doing the same in the future. Regards, Shauri 23:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Diplomacy in Recovered Territories
Look, can we work this out diplomatically? I would rather solve this dispute PROFESSIONALLY. Neither of can afford an edit war, since those are stupid and do not solve anything; they make matters worse by destroying any information the article might have had.

My primary issue is that you are injecting a substantial amount of Polish-Nationalist propoganda into specific articles referencing the former Eastern German territories, primarily former Prussia, Silesia and Pommerania (which half of my family happens to originate from). The fact of the matter is is that the phrase "regained" is extremely point-of-view, the Polish had not owned what are considered by Nationalists to be Recovered Territories for many, many centuries -- they were still tribal when they did. Plus, Poland is the -only- nation that refers to those areas as Recovered Territories; any other nation considers them War Reparations -- it was the USSR's influence in Potsdam and Yalta that caused you to get them in the process -- they were Poland's reparations for the USSR taking Eastern Poland (which, in turn, Poland took from the USSR during the Soviet-Polish War).

I am more Polish than I am German -- the Kuklinski side of the family originates near Danzig (as it were called then), and emigrated during the early 19th century as a result of Prussian reforms of the Polish culture. Also, I noticed that you referred to me as not belonging on this Wikipedia; I live in Chicago, and seeing as there is no American Wikipedia, I believe this is the most logical place for me to edit.

All I ask is that you refrain from injecting propoganda or point-of-view statements to an article -- perhaps we could work together and come up with a compromise that is not point-of-view in either direction (regained is PO-pov, annexed is DE-pov)? We could set a good example for future conflicts in articles pertaining to the territories Germany lost after the first and second World Wars. Antman 02:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Moje RfA
Dzięki za głos (choć mam wrażenie że nieco zza grobu, bo dawno Cię tu z nami nie było...) I would like to express my thanks to all the people who took part in my (failed) RfA voting. I was both surprised and delighted about the amount of support votes and all the kind words! I was also surprised by the amount of people who stated clearly that they do care, be it by voting in for or against my candidacy. That's what Wiki community is about and I'm really pleased to see that it works. As my RfA voting failed with 71% support, I don't plan to reapply for adminship any more. However, I hope I might still be of some help to the community. Cheers! Halibutt 05:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


 * No, akurat w to że potrafisz zbajerować właściwą panienkę nigdy nie wątpiłem :) Miło jest Cię mieć znowu pod ręką, zwłaszcza że czasem służysz mi za piorunochron (w ściąganiu na siebie gromów co aktywniejszych adwersaży zawsze byłeś niezły) :) Halibutt 20:19, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Witam,
i pozdrawiam kosmicznego odkrywce. =) Z ta SoCal to wciaz aktualne? :)


 * Tymczasowo w L.A. aegis maelstrom δ 21:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Ermeland is also English for Warmia
Ermeland is used as the primary name for Warmia in the following and should therefore appear in the text of the Wikipedia article with Warmia:


 * The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition, 2001.
 * Encyclopædia Britannica, 1911.
 * Encyclopædia Britannica, 2005. (in text)
 * Historical Atlas by William R. Shepherd, 1911.
 * Cambridge Modern History Atlas, 1912
 * EuraAtlas Online Historical Atlas (small print)

LuiKhuntek 07:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Miłej Lektury
http://www.znak.com.pl/forum/index.php?t=wydarzenia&id=2857 --Molobo 12:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Kątowicze
Jako mieszkaniec Katowic chetnie bym sie dowiedzial wiecej o historii mojego miasta - moglbys moze dodac w artykule zdanie albo dwa o Kątowiczach i jakies zrodlo? Dzieki.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Dzięki! A jak cie zaintersowało user categorisation, to polecam Babel - najprzydatniejsza z tych zabawek. PS. Ładny hełm u góry :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

UIA image
Hi, could you please add a source to the Image:UPA.jpg, if possible. I am interested in using it in other articles but I would like to know first where it comes from. Thanks, --Irpen 00:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Bromberg
Can you please use the Talk:Bydgoszcz page for this? You haven't given any real reasoning or argument for your edits. &mdash; Matt Crypto 12:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Jadger: Vanished Kingdom
where do u get these quotes? it seems like every other article that u have ever published, in that they are unsourced and unauthenticated as well as misguided. Have u ever actually read the book personally?Jadger 19:40, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

and your reviews are horribly wrong, the last one didn't even carefully read the book and skips words he doesn't like. he says it was wrong in the book, saying the great elector did not have the title of King of Prussia as he says the book says. the book however does not say that, the book states his son assumes the title in 1701. your sources are uncredible and inaccurate, as well as totally wrongJadger 19:40, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

if you know so much about the topic, then why do u not publish a book? wait, I know why, your bias and conclusions are total bullsh*t, and no one would ever read it unless they want an example of how well propoganda works on a person, who may outwardly seem rather intelligent. amazon.com cannot be relied on for reviews, anyone can review on there, I could review any book on there by saying that chocolate milk comes from brown cows, and nothing else. what is needed is authoritative sources for reviews, peer reviews for the author, like those that are contained on the back cover of the book.Jadger 19:51, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

why on my user page do u only quote reviews that are to your point that it was a bad book? I found many more reviews on amazon.com that were better written then your own contradictions and there were many more of them, by just as credible of sources as yours.Jadger 20:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

and you did realize that those reviewers on Amazon.com almost all have had bad reviews and very few ppl find there review useful.Jadger 20:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Space_Cadet.PNG
Hello. I just want to know what are the birds that have the red x through them. There is nothing wrong with the image, I think it is very clever. You are a good artist, btw. Zach (Smack Back) 09:05, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Nicolaus Copernicus
"'Not all people regard Copernicus as Polish. See Copernicus' nationality.'"

With reference to your recent reversion, I am wondering what you find misleading in the above. Please let me know.

Regards, David Kernow 20:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Dear Space Cadet! Excuse my confusion about your position concerning the "Copernicus debate": You voted for "Polish astronomer" but you agreed fully with [User:Durova|Durova]] who prefers "no nationality in the lead" (see Durova's Talkpage)? Did I misunderstand you? Cheers --Dagox 14:37, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Alexander Suvorov
Care to explain what exactly makes you unhappy in the article before throwing about tags? I wait for your apologies. --Ghirla | talk 16:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

The tag
Αндрей, izvini pazhawsta! Thousand apologies. I suffer from a "brain cloud" (my own term), due to adverse effects from the medications I'm taking for my illness. Kid you not. When it peaks I lose focus, concentration and partially memory. Being serious here. The good news is I'm getting better. Tvoy droog, Kasmicheskiy Pyeshekhod Space Cadet 17:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I hope that you'll get well soon. Happy New Year. --Ghirla | talk 17:17, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Copernicus' nationality
Hi. I was looking through contributions by Informationguy and I noticed this article, Copernicus' nationality, where apparently three of you have been having a discussion on the article page. I don't know (and don't care) who started it, but as I'm sure you're aware, discussions of that nature are supposed to be on Talk pages, so I've moved the comments to Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus/Nationality which is where the article's talk page is redirected to. From now on, would you please use that talk page for that particular discussion, and if anyone else starts a discussion on the article page, please either move it as I have done, or re-write it from a neutral point of view. Thanks. --LesleyW 12:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

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Are you doing ok ? Its been long since you were here. I hope everything is ok. --Molobo 19:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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Królewiec
Thank you for your contributions on the Simon Dach page. They were both informative and educational. But here is a suggestion: How about you try to stick to your Plant Science(?) and stop making a fool of yourself by voicing your annoying opinions about the things you have no inkling about? To show my appreciation for your future cooperation I commit myself in advance to stay away from any Plant Science garbage. Yours truly - Space Cadet 22:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Space Cadet, my post regarding your reverts was made in response to a request for comment. I came in as a neutral outsider, having no knowledge of the discussion prior to reviewing the page and its history. You clearly have good intentions and have a lot to contribute, but it does not help your cause when you make personal attacks. People who are well-meaning and correct get passed by on Wikipedia sometimes when they make personal attacks, multiple reverts, and other aggressive activities. It was for that reason that I was so quick to judge you. Having reviewed the facts again, I see I may have been in error, and you certainly know more about the discussion than I. I am assuming that the insulting language you used in your message to me is because of the strong convictions you have about the quality of the material on Wikipedia. It is not my intention to do anything other than improve Wikipedia here. Maxwahrhaftig 22:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, Max, I take everything back! I apologize, but your comment made me incredibly mad at first. Buds? Space Cadet 22:21, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad we could resolve this so quickly. Maxwahrhaftig 22:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Russian troll
After vandalizing Belarusian language and History of Belarus article (and totally dirupting editing of these two articles), the Russian troll Kuban Kazak continued his activities on the article about my native town Vorsha. I would like to ask Wikipedia admins and Wikipedia community members as what I should do in such a situation. Thank you very much. --rydel 14:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Rydel speak for yourself. And you my dear Cosmonaut from a country whose spacemen flew only in Russian capsuels know that you are supporing a POV pushing person who compleately lost an edit war (although succeded in blocking me for an hour) yet after which the admin looked into the history and saw what really is the truth behind his simple, cheap, provacational edits. Robi nie jest dupa...--Kuban kazak 23:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

"Are you gonna stop the name calling, or do you want me to call you a bitch?"
No idea what you are on about. If you see my descriptor as a personal attack you are correct to call me on it. It's hypocritical to respond to perceived personal attacks with attacks of your own. I did not think that my descriptor was a personal attack. Your threat of retaliation, attack for attack, most certainly WAS. Guettarda 00:31, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Not to mention, given the illustration on your page, you seem to be advertising a hatred for Germans. In that context, my interpretation seems accurate (although, of course, if you consider the descriptor a personal attack I will happily refrain from using it - truthfulness is no excuse for personal attacks).  Guettarda 00:36, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Ponowna próba
Wymazania informacji o zbrodniach popełnionych przez żółnierzy niemieckich podczas Kampanii Wrześniowej, tym razem w artykule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_17th_Infantry_Division --Molobo 22:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Sudovians
Could you check the changes to this article? I am out of my depth in this subject. Rmhermen 21:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Hej
wpadlam zobaczyc ten strong bias na Twojej stronie, i chybe chodzi o te kaczke. Teraz nie moge przestac sie smac. Rzeczywiscie, niezly argument w dyskusji o artykule :)--SylwiaS | talk 02:19, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, dobrze, ze to zmieniles. Kaczka jest duzo fajniejsza niz beret.--SylwiaS | talk 18:28, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Your Reversions
Could you maybe join the discussion on Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus instead of just reverting everything. You didn't explain what problem you had with my solution. Let's be fair, you are really obliged to do this, and otherwise it may look to some like you're engaging in revert warfare for its own sake. - Calgacus 00:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Molobo
Do zobaczenia dzielny Kadecie ! :) PS:Uważaj podczas lotów na ptaki ;] --Molobo 22:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Voting
You might want to know that there was a voting started at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Geography_of_Poland. Halibutt 00:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries
It would be nice if you could provide an edit summary when you perform a revert, especially when you enter a content dispute like here. Would you mind to explain why you agree with Molobo on this issue? We are having a conversation at Talk:Georg Forster, and discussion there would be nicer than a revert without even an edit summary. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 02:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. As a member of the Wikipedia community, I would like to remind you of Wikipedia's neutral-point-of-view policy for editors. In the meantime, please be bold and continue contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you! Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 12:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Zobacz sobie tą interesującą niemiecką stronę
http://www.ety.com/berlin/ Jest to o czym mówi się w artykule o rzekomej opresji Niemców-żądania o "sprawiedliwość" wobec rzekomych powojennych ofiar Niemieckich są przykrywką dla propagowania antysemityzmu i nazizmu na tej stronie. --Molobo 01:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

3RR on Erika Steinbach
Hi. I have listed you and Maria Stella for a 3RR on Erika Steinbach. See Administrators' noticeboard/3RR for details -- Chris 73 | Talk 08:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I've blocked you (again, sigh). William M. Connolley 11:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC).

Kopernik
http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/polszczyzna/PTJ/b/b58_031-035.pdf. BULLETIN DE LA SOCIÉTÉ POLONAISE DE LINGUISTIQUE, fasc. LVIII, 2002ISSN 0032–3802WITOLD MAŃCZAKKrakówNaród a język, państwo i religiaSwego czasu był w Polsce młody historyk o nazwisku Krzysztof Pomian, który w r. 1973 wyemigrował do Francji i odtąd publikuje tylko po francusku. W r. 1990 ukazała się jego książka pt. L’Europe et ses nations, która w dwa lata później została przetłumaczona na język polski jako Europa i jej narody. W książce tej w pewnym miejscu autor powiada, że „wojny spowodowane przez Rewolucję i Napoleona otwierają w Europie ostatni rozdział epigenezy narodów, która rozpoczęła się ponad tysiąc lat wcześniej, gdy barbarzyńcy przekroczyli limes. Przebiegała ona zarazem w dwóch wymiarach: poziomym, gdzie każdy naród samookreśla się wobec innych, zwłaszcza wobec tych, które nad nim panują lub nad którym sam panuje albo wobec obu naraz albo też wobec tych, które są po prostu jego sąsiadami; i pionowym, gdzie z kolei każdy rozwiązuje konflikty między tworzącymi go grupami – konflikty rozją-trzone lub wywołane przez innowacje gospodarcze i techniczne – wyłączając własne elity z kultury ponadnarodowej i rozciągając się tak, by ogarnąć również tych, którzy zajmują na drabinie społecznej najniższe miejsce”. Z kolei autor omawia „tory, po ja-kich poruszają się poszczególne narody”, i dochodzi do wniosku, że „tory, które łączą punkt wyjścia z punktem dojścia, plemiona z narodami, są wypadkowymi gry sześciu sił, już to współdziałających, już to ścierających się w różnych kombinacjach”. Oto one:1) Dynastie panujące, które uosabiają kraj w oczach jego mieszkańców i zagra-nicy, które, często traktowane jako święte, budzą przywiązanie i wierność i wokół których krystalizuje się poczucie zbiorowej tożsamości.2) Państwa, czyli aparaty administracyjno-militarne z ich hierarchiami, z ich włas-nymi tradycjami i symbolami, posługujące się zorganizowaną przemocą i przymu-sem i sprawujące kontrolę nad poddanymi.3) Związki terytorialne – miasta, prowincje, kantony – gdzie pewne uprawnienia państwa należą do ogółu mieszkańców lub do instancji wybieralnych i gdzie poczu-cie tożsamości zbiorowej skupia się nie wokół osób, lecz wokół zwyczajowych form życia społecznego.4) Elity i instytucje kulturalne, w tym piśmiennictwo, wiedza i sztuka, które wy-twarzają uprzedmiotowione i trwałe nośniki zbiorowej pamięci, zbiorowych wyobra-żeń, poczucia wspólnoty języka, terytorium, przeszłości i przyszłości.

Page 2 32WITOLD MAŃCZAKNARÓD A JĘZYK, PAŃSTWO I RELIGIA335) Instytucje i autorytety religijne – Kościół katolicki ze swoim centrum i lokalny-mi odgałęzieniami, Cerkwie prawosławne, Kościoły protestanckie, rabini.6) Same narody wreszcie lub pewne ich składniki, które od czasów plemiennych reagują na naciski z zewnątrz i naciski własnych instytucji, a niekiedy, przejmując inicjatywę, stają się współtwórcami własnych dziejów, a nie tylko biernym przed-miotem.Osobiście uważam, że pojęcia narodowości nie da się wtłoczyć w jakąś uniwer-salną formułę, że pojęcie narodowości w różnych krajach i w różnych epokach przed-stawia się różnie, jednak sprawy nie są aż tak bardzo skomplikowane, jakby to suge-rowały przytoczone wypowiedzi Krzysztofa Pomiana. W moim przekonaniu istnieją tylko trzy wyznaczniki narodu: państwo, język lub religia. Jeśli chodzi o narodowość polską, to Polakiem jest ktoś, kto mówi w domu po polsku, natomiast jeśli ktoś w domu po polsku nie mówi, to Polakiem nie jest. Tak jest przynajmniej w ogromnej większości wypadków, choć w sporadycznych wypadkach bywa inaczej: obecnie gdzieniegdzie w Rosji trafiają się ludzie, którzy poczuwają się jeszcze do polskości, choć po polsku już mówić nie umieją. Natomiast zupełnie inaczej ma się rzecz we Francji. W kraju tym od czasów rewolucji obowiązuje zasada, że wszystkie posady państwowe są obsadzane w drodze konkursów. Widziałem raz we Francji ogłoszenie o konkursie na listonosza, w którym to ogłoszeniu wyszczególnione były warunki, jakie musiał spełniać kandydat na to stanowisko. Jeden z warunków brzmiał: être Français, tzn. dosłownie ‘być Francuzem’. Oczywiście, jeśli ktoś w domu mówił po prowansalsku, bretońsku czy baskijsku, to to nie znaczyło, że nie mógł się ubiegać o ową posadę listonosza. Wymieniony w ogłoszeniu warunek être Français oznaczał tylko, że kandydat musiał mieć obywatelstwo francuskie. Różnica między Polską a Francją polega na tym, że u nas w różnych kwestionariuszach nieraz są pytania zarówno o obywatelstwo, jak i o narodowość, natomiast władze francuskie pytają jedynie o nationalité, czyli o to, co my nazywamy obywatelstwem.Jeśli ktoś mówi w domu po polsku, to wiadomo, że jest Polakiem. Jeśli jednak ktoś w domu mówi po niemiecku, to równie dobrze może być Niemcem, Austriakiem, Szwajcarem jak Luksemburczykiem. Jeśli ktoś mówi w domu po francusku, to rów-nie dobrze może być Francuzem jak Szwajcarem czy Belgiem. Jeśli ktoś w domu mówi po angielsku, to możliwości jest jeszcze więcej, a wręcz rekordowa liczba możliwości zachodzi w wypadku, gdy ktoś w domu mówi po hiszpańsku. Wiadomo, ile jest państw w Ameryce Łacińskiej.Tak więc na pojęcie narodowości polskiej, węgierskiej czy rumuńskiej składa się wyłącznie język, natomiast w wielu innych wypadkach wchodzi w grę nie tylko język, ale i przynależność państwowa, a niekiedy, jak np. we Francji, tylko obywa-telstwo.Niekiedy wyznacznikiem narodowości jest religia. Wszyscy mieszkańcy Północnej Irlandii mówią po angielsku, ale o tym, że jedni są Irlandczykami, a inni Anglikami, decyduje wyznanie, które jest bądź katolickie, bądź protestanckie. Podobnie się ma rzecz z mieszkańcami Bośni, z których jedni są chrześcijanami, a inni muzułmanami. Jak powiada Pomian (1992: 174), „w zasadzie Serbowie i Chorwaci różnią się niemal tylko tym, że pierwsi wyznają prawosławie, a drudzy są katolikami”. Szczególny wy-

Page 3 32WITOLD MAŃCZAKNARÓD A JĘZYK, PAŃSTWO I RELIGIA33padek stanowią Żydzi, którzy, rozproszeni po całej kuli ziemskiej, mówią najrozma-itszymi językami, a jedyną rzeczą, która ich łączy, jest ich religia. Za naszych czasów, gdy i wśród Żydów nie brak ludzi religijnie obojętnych, Żydów można zdefiniować jako ludzi, którzy są lub których przodkowie byli wyznania mojżeszowego z tym za-strzeżeniem, że niektórzy wyznawcy judaizmu, a mianowicie Karaimi, Żydami nie są.Ze względu na to, że pojęcie narodowości w różnych krajach i różnych epokach różny ma sens, warto zwrócić uwagę na to, że niejedno obce wyrażenie zostało nie-adekwatnie przetłumaczone na polski. I tak istnieje angielskie wyrażenie the United Nations, które jest tłumaczone na polski jako Organizacja Narodów Zjednoczonych, ale to tłumaczenie jest błędne. Istnieje naród palestyński, istnieje także naród kurdyj-ski, który liczy ponad 20 milionów ludzi, ale ani naród palestyński, ani naród kurdyj-ski nie należy do Organizacji Narodów Zjednoczonych. Dlaczego? Otóż dlatego,- że narody te nie mają własnego państwa, a tylko państwa mogą należeć do ONZ. Tak więc adekwatny przekład ang. the United Nations powinien brzmieć Organizacja Państw Zjednoczonych. Mutatis mutandis to samo dotyczy organizacji, która była po-przedniczką Organizacji Narodów Zjednoczonych, a mianowicie przedwojennej Ligi Narodów. W angielskim jest także wyrażenie national park, które jest tłumaczone na polski jako park narodowy, ale znowu to tłumaczenie nie jest adekwatne. Co jest przeciwieństwem ang. national park? Otóż przeciwieństwem national park jest park miejski albo park prywatny. Zatem national park to park, który nie jest własnością ani miasta, ani osoby prywatnej, natomiast jest własnością państwa. W polszczyźnie ist-nieje zapożyczenie nacjonalizacja, zamiast którego nieraz używamy słowa rodzime-go upaństwowienie, a nie *unarodowienie. I słusznie, gdyż nacjonalizacja jakiegoś przedsiębiorstwa oznacza, że dana firma staje się własnością nie narodu, ale państwa. W Paryżu jest biblioteka, która się zowie Bibliothèque nationale, a która po polsku bywa nazywana Biblioteką Narodową. Poza tym na wzór paryskiej Bibliothèque nationale w Warszawie stworzono Bibliotekę Narodową, ale nazwa ta jest myląca. W rzeczywistości Biblioteka Narodowa w Warszawie jest własnością nie narodu polskiego, ale państwa polskiego. Trafniej byłoby ją nazywać biblioteką państwową czy krajową. Podobnie się ma rzecz z nazwami i innych instytucji państwowych, np. Narodowego Banku Polskiego. Fr. international tłumaczone jest na polski jako ‘mię-dzynarodowy’, ale jeśli nie we wszystkich, to przynajmniej w ogromnej większości wypadków wyraz ten znaczy ‘międzypaństwowy’. Natomiast fr. route nationalesłusznie się na polski przekłada jako droga krajowa.Na zakończenie chciałbym parę słów poświęcić narodowości Kopernika. Z dzisiejszego punktu widzenia Polakiem jest ktoś, kto w domu mówi po polsku, na-tomiast jeśli ktoś w domu po polsku nie mówi, to Polakiem nie jest. W ogóle to, jakim się mówi językiem, od czasów romantyzmu, tzn. w XIX i XX w., odgrywało wielką rolę, ale przed XIX w. było zupełnie inaczej. Jak powiedział znany lingwista francuski Dauzat, niegdyś ludzie walczyli o religie, później zaczęli walczyć o języki. I istotnie kwestie językowe wycisnęły piętno na historii Europy w XIX i XX w. Właśnie to, że języki zaczęły odgrywać rolę, jakiej nigdy przedtem nie miały, zadecydowało o zjednoczeniu Włoch i Niemiec, o rozpadzie najpierw imperium otomańskiego, a po I wojnie światowej o rozpadzie imperium habsburskiego oraz o utracie przez Rosję

Page 4 34WITOLD MAŃCZAKNARÓD A JĘZYK, PAŃSTWO I RELIGIA35niektórych jej prowincji zachodnich, a w najnowszych czasach o rozpadzie imperium sowieckiego oraz o rozpadzie Jugosławii i Czechosłowacji.Ale nie można zapominać o tym, że kwestie językowe wyglądały zupełnie ina-czej przed XIX w. Zrobię dygresję, ale zaraz potem wrócę do głównego wątku mego rozumowania. Jak wiadomo, w Stanach Zjednoczonych jest wielu imigrantów, a imi-granci ci po uzyskaniu obywatelstwa amerykańskiego niekiedy dochodzą do sprawo-wania nawet najwyższych funkcji państwowych w USA. Jest jednak pewien wyjątek, a mianowicie w konstytucji amerykańskiej jest zastrzeżone, że prezydentem Stanów Zjednoczonych może zostać tylko człowiek urodzony w USA, tzn. ktoś, kto obywa-telstwo amerykańskie miał od samego początku. Otóż pod tym względem szlachta polska była bez porównania liberalniejsza: w Polsce królem mógł być wybrany tak-że cudzoziemiec. Ba, w czasie elekcji cudzoziemcy mieli nawet większe szanse od Polaków. A czyż król, który sam mówił kiepsko po polsku albo w ogóle polskiego nie znał, mógł się interesować, jakim językiem mówił taki czy inny jego poddany? Oczywiście nie.Można to sformułować jeszcze inaczej: stosunek do języka był przed XIX w. w Europie, w tym także w Polsce przedrozbiorowej, taki, jaki do dziś jeszcze jest we Francji. Państwo francuskie nie interesuje się tym, jakimi językami mówią w domu mieszkańcy Francji, we francuskich kwestionariuszach spisu ludności nie ma rozróż-nienia, jakie jest w polskich kwestionariuszach, w których się rozróżnia obywatel-stwo i narodowość. Sytuacja panująca w dawnej Rzeczypospolitej może być także przyrównywana do sytuacji, jaka jest dzisiaj w Szwajcarii. Większość Szwajcarów mówi po niemiecku, ale ktoś, kto w domu mówi po francusku, włosku czy retoromań-sku, jest równie dobrym Szwajcarem, jak ten, co mówi po niemiecku.W tym stanie rzeczy jest zrozumiałe, że do końca XVIII w. nie miano wątpliwości co do narodowości Kopernika. Kopernik urodził się, przeżył całe życie i zmarł w Pol-sce, zatem był Polakiem. Nawet król pruski Fryderyk II, który uczestniczył w pierw-szym rozbiorze Polski, wkrótce potem napisał w liście do Woltera, że jest rzeczą słuszną, żeby kraj, który wydał Kopernika, nie grzązł już dłużej w barbarzyństwie (Œuvres posthumes 1788, list z 11.12.1773 r.). Natomiast w XIX wieku Niemcy za-częli twierdzić, że Kopernik był Niemcem, i trwało to do roku 1945. Ale po II wojnie światowej zaszła pewna zmiana. W lectorium głównym Biblioteki Jagiellońskiej przejrzałem wszystkie encyklopedie i okazało się, że w niemal wszystkich encyklo-pediach, od Encyclopedia Americana i Encyclopaedia Britannica poczynając, a na encyklopediach włoskich skończywszy, jest napisane, że Kopernik był Polakiem. Pod tym względem wyjątek stanowią jedynie encyklopedie niemieckie (Der große Herderz r. 1954, Meyers enzyklopädisches Lexikon z r. 1975 oraz Brockhaus Enzyklopädiez r. 1990), a mianowicie w nich narodowość Kopernika została przemilczana. Tak więc po II wojnie światowej Niemcy nie twierdzą już, że Kopernik był Niemcem, ale albo jego narodowość przemilczają, albo powiadają, że był Europejczykiem.P.S. W rozmowie po wygłoszeniu referatu na zjeździe PTJ prof. Oleg Leszczak ze Świętokrzyskiej Akademii Pedagogicznej poinformował mię o książce pewnego ukraińskiego historyka, który przedstawił argumenty przemawiające za tym, że – wbrew temu, co się na ogół sądzi – wojna z Kozakami w XVII w. była wojną na tle

Page 5 34WITOLD MAŃCZAKNARÓD A JĘZYK, PAŃSTWO I RELIGIA35nie etnicznym, ale religijnym. Innymi słowy, walczyli w niej nie przodkowie tych, co siebie dzisiaj nazywają Ukraińcami, z Polakami, ale prawosławni mieszkańcy tej czę-ści Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego, która w r. 1569 w wyniku unii lubelskiej została włączona do Korony, z katolikami. Jest to jeden przykład więcej na to, że przed XIX w. języki odgrywały bez porównania mniejszą rolę niż za naszych czasów.SummaryAccording to the author, the concept of nationality in different countries and peri-ods has been understood in different ways, and language, state or religion are determi-nants of nation. The author also discusses the problem of incorrect Polish translations of English and French expressions with the words nation or national. The final part of the article is devoted to the issue of the nationality of Copernicus.Publikacje cytowaneŒuvres posthumes de Frédéric roi de Prusse. 1788. Berlin.Pomian, K. 1992. Europa i jej narody, Warszawa: PIW.


 * You might want to verify that you reverted to the correct version today, unless of course you totally changed your views on the issue. Balcer 17:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

copernicus
Please write a bit less ambiguous comments. When seeing your "I dont think so" I thought that you reverted my edit. mikka (t) 18:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Stop using insulting langauge to me
"Showcase, you use "yo' mama" comments like some stupid hood and you're surprised when people get insulted. Grow up and try to be more like Joe." [] And stop undoing my edits without any reason.[] --Showcase 22:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was you who used insulting comments like: "yo' mama". Space Cadet 23:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

3rr on Treaty of Welawa
Blocked again (sigh). And consider yourself lucky not to get longer for edit comments like and  William M. Connolley 23:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC).

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.  Sceptr e  ( Talk  ) 17:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Helga
Mozliwe, ale niekoniecznie. Sporo jest Niemcow o bardzo podobnych pogladach. Nie ma to zreszta duzego znaczenia, nieprawdaz, czy to Helga czy tez inny user o podobnym nastawieniu :)) Szopen 15:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Sock puppeteer suspect
You might want to look at Tirid Tirid once again ... and especially on this Request for CheckUser. --Matthead 19:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Hej
Jeden z niemieckich użytkowników próbuje doprowadzić do zablokowania mnie na dłuższy czas. Gdyby to mu się udało miałbym prośbę byś zerknął na gdzie co chwile informacja o tym jak Polskie dzieci biczowano i katowano tak że obdarto je ze skóry jest kasowana przez tego niemieckiego użytkownika. --Molobo 13:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Chauvinistic vowels?
I'm really intimidated by your edit, summarized as "As part of Poland - rm nonsensical chauvinistic claims". Are too many vowels now considered Anti-Polish POV? --Matthead 18:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Już patrzę
Widzę że ten sam problem co zawsze. Podwójne nazewnictwo jak widać służy tylko do nadawania zniemczonych wersji nazw miejscowości w krajach podbitych w przeszłości. --Molobo 12:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Jak zwykle
Próba kasacji informacji o zbrodniach Niemców podczas II Wojny Światowej:  Jeśli możesz to zerknij od czasu do czasu. --Molobo 18:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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Wiewiórka
Znów próbuje usuwać informacje o zbrodniach niemieckich w artykule o Steinbach, oczywiście "krzywda" wypędzonych pozostaje. Zresztą sam zobacz. Pozdrawiam. --Molobo 18:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC) Btw:  Now only to replace the nuts with image of Nazi atrocities to be deleted :D --Molobo 18:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Stworzyłem
Artykuł o Niemieckim obozie koncentracyjnym dla Polskich dzieciPotulice concentration camp. Oczywiście nie minęło wiele czasu a już się zaczęło wymazywanie informacji. Jak możesz czasem przyuważyć będę wdzięczny. --Molobo 02:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Double naming
Space Cadet, you know very well that a large majority of users voted for double naming, please do not remove double naming from articles. Details at Talk:Gdansk/Vote, just in case your memory is failing. You can also read the numerous warnings on the talk page here, if you prefer. -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Additionally, please avoid misleading edit summaries . -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

As usuall
As usuall  Dwaj użytkownicy usilnie próbują pro-sowiecką wersję wprowadzić. Jeśli mógłbyś mieć na to oko (nie chce złamać 3RR) byłbym wdzięczny. --Molobo 20:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
The discussion as I red it was that he was from prussia, but when the area was polish kingdom than why the discussion?

I dont like the discussion about: this was mine and not yours Should be done by three years in the sandbox but not like here.

But to start really nice stuff here it would be good to edit some articles from irisch people born during the time it was offically part of the UK and say they where not irisch but UK citicens. Or all people born 1938-1945 in austria ar germans. Or chinese born during japanese occupation. I think you would get respose like never bevore and everything would be vandalized in seconds. Wars start easy but are hard to stop.--Stone 12:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

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Wiewiórka znów bez orzeszków
 --Molobo 02:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Russsian_claims_about_Warsaw_Uprising_1794 The author tries to put information from non-objective source as objective article. The source is from Imperial Russia regarding Polish uprising against its occupation. Imperial Russia was known for fabricating and being source of many antipolish fabrications. Because I didn't want to delete this(no blanking) I moved it to a proper article that would deal with claim. --Molobo 03:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Jeśli możesz przywrócić info o zbrodniach sowieckich:  --Molobo 11:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Your recent discussions
I noticed your recent discussion with an anon user regarding issue of Polish and German relations, whom you suspect of being the the infamouse Helga user IIRC. The anon stated one source of his views on one talk page, you might be interested: 

The source is from 

I recommend you look at the site and what ideology it represents. --Molobo 18:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Przy okazji wiewiórka jak zwykle bez orzeszków:  --Molobo 21:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiewióra się ostatnio dobrała do artykułu o mordach na Polakach dokonywanych przez mniejszość niemiecką w 1939. Ponieważ przez weekend nie będę miał sieci jakbyś mógł wiewiórki zapędy zerknąć od czasu do czasu będę wdzięczny. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Selbstschutz&action=history --Molobo 16:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Znów
Próba germanizacji:  --Molobo 11:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Jak zwykle
Próba wymazania zbrodni niemieckich  --Molobo 14:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Space Cadet,

thank you for leaving a message on my talk page and the question about the leader (I added military/leader, because he was both.)

Are you and Molobo two different people, or are you one and the same? You two act so very much alike, that it is really hard to tell. You are now both # 1 at Wikipedia.

Here is an article you might want to read and ponder: http://wiez.free.ngo.pl/jedwabne/article/35.html. I have some hope that it might do some good in your demeanor from now on. Molobo should read this also, and so should a number of others, but I am afraid that Molobo is beyond repair. I think he might not even actually live in Poland, if he does, he should have gotten some of what the article is talking about.

Have a good day. MG 4/7/2006

Kusma's RfA
Hello, Space Cadet! Thank you for your support in my recent successful request for adminship. If you ever have problems that you could use my assistance with or see me doing stupid things with my new buttons, don't hesitate to contact me. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 02:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

"No Prussia No Problem"
Someone messed up your picture. I've been trying to fix it. But I've been having trouble reverting back to your version. You might want to take a look at Image:Prussia Graffiti.JPG. 172 | Talk 09:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Wiewiór
Jak zwykle:  --Molobo 16:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

3rr
Hi, you have broken the three revert rule on Soviet partisan. Please don't do this again or you will be blocked according to policy. --He:ah? 00:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Reverts...
Hello... your recent contributions have been almost nothing except reverts of other editors on many, many articles, numerous times the same editors... Please, this is not the way to resolve disputes. If you don't start discussing on talk pages and stop constantly reverting, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. In the interest of complete closure, I have also left this message for .--Sean Black (talk) 00:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You returned to make 3 further reverts after this warning. Let me reiterate Sean's words: you must not continue to edit war as you have been doing. If you find yourself in a conflict, discuss, and seek mediation or other dispute resolution. Edit warring is never okay. Dmcdevit·t 23:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You should also note that you can be blocked for a multitude of edit-warring related activities, not just for four reverts in 24 hours. 3 rv's can get you blocked, as can "disruption" and "exhuasting the community's patience".  Your lack of almost ANY edits other than reverts is QUITE troubling, and i think our patience is waning.  --He:ah? 00:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Incivility
I've blocked you briefly for incivility, e.g. William M. Connolley 14:45, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Copernikus damaged by Matthead again
Czesc Space Cadet,

Matthead wymazuje z artykulu wszystkie polskie litery i polskie nazwy. Moze pomozesz? Ja juz nie moge rewertowac.

Matcreg 13:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

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A gift
To long departed friend: [ --[[User:Molobo|Molobo]] 00:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Archive
I suggest that you should archive your talk page, as its getting very long-- ☆ TBC  ☆  02:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Your Arguments
You often state that Pomerania should be Polish because it has Polish ancestry, and the 'Poles were there first'. Besides the obvious "We were there first, so it's ours" fallacy, you are forgetting several things...

Based on that logic, the region, going back a bit further, should be in Germany, as it was occupied by the Goths (a Germanic tribe), as the West Slavs (not necessarily Polish, but Lechetic at least) did not invade until later.

Or, going back even further, we should give it to the Irish, as Celtic tribes occupied the area before Slavs or Germans.

Or, even further, we should give it to the Basques, as their ancestors and their relatives used to own all of Europe prior to the Indo-European invasion.

So, are you saying that all of Europe should revert to Basque control? Before you continue your 'It was ours first' rant, you should consider the facts that the Poles weren't the first, nor the Germans, nor the Celts, and probably not even the Basques. Ameise -- chat 08:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

(ammendum) By that same logic, of course, even going back a little bit, Danzig west to Stettin (I cannot spell nor pronounce the Polish forms, the German forms come more natural to a Chicagoan speaker such as myself) should be given to a newly created Kashubian nation, west of that (including, I suppose, Russian Kaliningrad) should be given to Latvia, as the Prussians were a Baltic group. Ameise -- chat 08:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The Comenius POV edits by User:71.137.207.147
Thank you for taking interest. Could you keep an eye on he article? I do not want to be the only one who revets him there. It starts to look as a personal vendetta while in fact it's a hopeless case of trying to teach history to a user who is clerly uneducable. My editor interests lie mostly in science. Also a little in history of the countries around Baltic - hence my knowledge of the history of Pomerania and Prussia. However, I would not like this to distract me too much. Thanks again for help. Friendly Neighbour 19:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

"rm nonsensical chauvinistic claims"
You better had stayed were you have been, and spared Wikipedia from bombastic edit comments like in and. -- Matthead discuß!    O       14:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Jpg
Hi, I noticed you frequently contribute images to the Wikipedia, which is great, but I would like you to reconsider your choice of format, you see JPEG is most frequently used for images, and as such has a very lossfull codex, and many compression aftifacts visible. PNG is ideal for diagrams and illustrations and doesn't suffer from any compression artifacts. Have a look at this image for a good comparison between the formats.

PS: Your no-moose image is a bit incorect, because the horn is not crossed, it would usually be taken to mean that moose horns are prescribed, that is - that they are compulsory. :)
 * +Hexagon1 (t) 09:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Great about the formats, but I still think not-crossed signs prescribe, not restrict, after all speed-signs are sometimes in a red circle, and that doesn't mean that that speed is forbidden. But I might be wrong, or maybe it's a regional-thing. +Hexagon1 (t) 11:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Podolski/Klose
Hi Space Cadet! I see you hold an interest in Polish-German relations. Could you add Lukasz and Miroslaw to your watchlist? There is a (sockpuppet?) watchdog tending to the articles who constantly tries to dispprove their Polish roots. Pozdrowienia! Pawel z Niepolomic 16:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Why?
Dear Space, we've never really talked one on one. So what is your rationale for adding the Polish name of Biržai to English WP? Maybe you have a reason, so I ask you sincerely and without an ulterior motive. No animosity or accusations intended. What say you, Space Cadet? Dr. Dan 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Please use non-confusing edit summaries
Re:. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's for your own good, Ceasar :) I don't mind when it is applied to rv of vandalism or anon's pov pushing, but it is confusing if used for stuff like spelling correction. And keep in mind that if used against a regged user, this can be seen as a personal attack, and WP:PAIN has been increasingly active lately.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 21:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Tak ucieszne jak to bylo, jesli ktos to pokaze na PAINie to dostaniesz blocka :( Ja rozumiem ze niekiedy z ogniem trzeba ogniem, ale nie tutaj: zamiast tego sugeruje bys ty go i innych takich raportowal na PAINie, a neutralni admini ich zablokuja. Co ty na to?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Ja, jestem za! Dr. Dan 02:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

recovered territory
you said: Again, he had a power of a king, he ruled over the country and the dukes.) Just because he was not recognized by the Pope as a king, does not mean he wasn't one. He had all the power of a king and he ruled over dukes. I'll give you the Slavs before Tacitus, though

well, the pope hasn't recognized me as the King of Canada, but I am, so from now on you should call me "your excellency", after all, I have the power of an emperor, I rule over my own land, and have loyal subjects (the four-legged kind) who are Dukes, not joking, my dog's name is Duke, so surely I must be a king also, as I fit your requirements for one.

--Jadger 00:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Adam Keller's Response re Polish Corridor
I have responded to your message on my page re the Polish Corridor, hope to hear from you.Adam keller 12:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Warsaw
Hello. While I'm on your side in the Trakai discussion, I can not admit that your recent comments about Warsaw were helpful there (personally, sometimes I find it better not to respond when not necessary). Even if I may guess what was your possible intention behind, the most probable result is the increase of antagonistic attitudes due to specyfic language issues. This is something I'd like to avoid. Nothing personal, though. Best regards, --Beaumont (@)  19:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Re
Hello. The sentence of governor of Prussia was added not by annon, which you changed later. So this situation definitely should be properly discussed with sources presented if needed on talk, to avoid further rv. M.K. 20:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Minor edits was good by annon too. BTW, why you need LT, not enough your own homies? M.K. 20:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding reversions made on January 21 2019 (UTC) to Andreas Gryphius
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. If this is an IP address, and it is shared by multiple users, ignore this warning, but aviod making any reverts within 24 hours of this warning in order to avoid any confusion. ST47 Talk 19:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wesołych Boże Narodzenie
Wesołych Boże Narodzenie

--Jadger 20:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Order of Dobrzyń/Dobrin
The article is currently at Order of Dobrzyń, but the history is at Order of Dobrin. If you hold on, I'll merge the histories into Order of Dobrzyń and fix the discrepancy. Olessi 20:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Nomina odiosa, editio misteriosa
Nope, no problems at all, I'm cool and smiling :) Glad to see you back, BTW.  // Halibutt 09:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * FPS player, are we? :)  // Halibutt 09:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * FPS = First-person shooter.  // Halibutt 11:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

survey
thanks! (I'll sign) absent minded--Beaumont (@)  13:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)