User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Archives/2011/July

Problematic signature
Hi Spaceman, you have something to work with. The user Sit.Usha uses a signature (സിറ്റുഷിന്റെ അമ്മയെ ഊക്കിയ) which is meant to abuse user Sitush. Salih ( talk ) 06:24, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I just saw the name and was going to block based on that, but the signature nails it. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  07:08, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Profile Saurabh Kumar Shahi
Dear

How do you decide which biographies are important, and which are not? How much are you aware of the emerging political discourse in India? Saurabh Kr Shahi is an extremely relevant emerging journalist and thinker.

Just to illustrate my point, Mr Shahi is ONLY the 2nd Indian to be conferred with Honorary Lifetime Invitee by Shanghai Corporation Organization at Centre for Political Studies. Only 38 scholars from all over the world have been awarded with this. 2 in India including him. Another is Ambassador Bhadrakumara.

I am shocked at how undemocratic a seemingly oh-so-democratic encyclopedia can be.

-- Arkesh Ajay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkesh.ajay (talk • contribs) 18:31, 2 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not democratic, it's an encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, but we have policies and guidelines that cover what content is allowed. The article as it stood did not assert any importance beyond that of a journalist. Please read through our notability guidelines and provide content that is verifiable through reliable source references. I can place the article in your user space if you wish, and you can then add the references and show that he conforms to Wikipedia's standards of notability prior to moving it to mainspace. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
I just told my daughter I had a friend called "Spaceman Spiff"--she thought it was hilarious! Drmies (talk) 21:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that she wasn't just amused that you had a friend, period?  - Sitush (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Dewan357
came off the block two days ago and has started editing again.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Tamil Arts Academy
I have worried quite a lot about the prevalence of the supposed journal of the Tamil Arts Academy in articles that Pondheepankar & socks have been involved. It seems to be the work of one person who, although an academic, makes some very strange (to me) statements and wraps an awful lot up as fact which is from my perspective merely interpretation of ancient texts etc.

Is it reliable? Is it actually the work of Pondheepankar? - Sitush (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It may be reliable on some points, but I wouldn't call it a reliable source as what I've seen are primary source opinions. Pondhee could be a student of this person -- he has his own blog that he spams here (and gets some meatpuppets to do the same). Sodabottle would know better as Tamil Nadu history is apparently one of his areas of expertise. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Nagasamy is a former director of Archaeological Survey of India. He self publishes a books/articles with his own theories post retirement and has a lot of followers (like pondheepankar) from the RSS / hindutva side of the political spectrum. His site is only good as a source for statements like "nagasamy claims such and such" not as facts.--Sodabottle (talk) 16:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * RSS? - Sitush (talk) 16:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh--Sodabottle (talk) 16:33, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey Spiff. This user has a coi on Bradley McIntosh (see here) and has added his personal info here. Could you please rev del that? &mdash;   Abhishek   Talk 19:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This is not in my area of interest/functioning, so I won't look at the article. As for rev del, I mostly perform only copyvio deletions and I'm not up to speed on contact info suppression in these circumstances, so you'll have to contact someone who's more familiar with these. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Template protection
Any chance of semi-pp on Template:Caste Groups of India (Kongu Vellalar) for a week? I am getting fed up of fixing errors only to see IPs coming back. I have tried explaining in edit summaries and on the talk page. Wouldn't mind so much if it was just warring re: the content but they're also affecting the format, eg: the last one completely screwed up the Refs section. - Sitush (talk) 08:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 11:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit Warring
Hello, User:X-menfirstclass is currently edit-warring in Telugu cinema article. He is pushing lot of unsourced content into the article, without proper citaions such as the one for "Guinness Records". -- Commander (Ping Me) 09:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look in a short while, but you'll have to file a case at Sockpuppet investigations/Padmalakshmisx for this and the other one you came to me about. A CU needs to look at it to identify all sleeper socks. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Now the user has started to edit form another IP. -- Commander (Ping Me) 10:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for semi-protecting the article. -- Commander (Ping Me) 10:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * File the SPI, I'm not going to be able to handle these again if the evidence trail doesn't get tracked on that page. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Will do that shortly. -- Commander (Ping Me) 10:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Hiii
Forwarded message to (user secret of success - involved in persistent vandalism to the article) attached :

Respected editor: Discussion regarding telugu cinema article TWO IMAGES ARE NOT FROM SAME FILM ONE IS BHAKTA POTANA AND THE OTHER IS BHAKTA PRAHLADA PLEASE REVERT YOUR VANDALISM WHY ARE YOU REMOVING ORIGINAL CONTENT in Telugu cinema article dude???- WHAT ARE YOU UPT0 TO SPOIL TELUGU CINEMA????? WHY RU DELETING ORIGINAL CONTENT????? YOU DONT WANT THE ARTICLE TO BE EXPANDED??? you ahve any issues with the development of telugu film industry discuss it. YOU DONT WANT TELUGU FILM ARTICLE TO BE IM PROVED??? ALL THE GUNIESS WORLD RECORDS WERE CITED PROPERLY WITH NEWS PAPER PUBLISHED REFERENCES. news paper sources are a good sources of refrences my dear PLEASE CHANGE YOUR APPROACH. Please revert ur edits to what they are when the admin semi protected it. please restore bhakta paotana nagagaih image. if u have disputes let us discuss with each other and resolve it

(Niranjaniyengar (talk) 11:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)).


 * Sockpuppet investigations/Padmalakshmisx, you are blocked indefinitely, so please do not evade your block through socks. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * That's clearly him. Similar edits on talk pages. -- Commander (Ping Me) 12:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

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User
Please have a look at the conduct and contribs of. I sense a serious COI. Thanks  Arjun  codename024 09:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, it's Kalarimaster so I wanted to make sure about sleepers before blocking one account. His POV is unique, so good luck cleaning it up! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:58, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank You very much for your time. 05:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I have observed the same trend in other articles such as Architecture of Kerala - see this, where WP:OR include phrases like cultural invasions of Aryans.  Arjun  codename024 08:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll have to discuss those on the article talk page and if that fails follow steps on WP:DR. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Kashmiri Pandit
Done. An easy one. The contributor has one query & I'll sort that out with him - need a bit more info before I reinsert but, in any event, it was not one of the CV points. - Sitush (talk) 20:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Naadapriya
Looks like he is back to push his old pov in Hogenakkal falls. This was unprotected last month after pending changes trial was over. Time for semi protection again?--Sodabottle (talk) 08:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Edited rajiv Gandhi's educational qualifications..
i ahve included the neccessary citations and references, if u find any of it objectionable, or unquantifiable by any means please do inform me, before you revert the mentioned edits. expecting your co-operation for a neutral wikipedia. Thanks --Krishna Kumar 03:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksquarekumar (talk • contribs)
 * Your edit was mostly acceptable -- the part about St. Stephens was not. You can not quote a Janata Party press release to state something when reliable sources state otherwise. The article needs to conform to WP:BLP. I have reverted that part, but the rest of your edit is intact. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

thanks.. --Krishna Kumar 00:22, 9 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksquarekumar (talk • contribs)

A pie for you!

 * Thanks, I just have the range contributions page open, that's all. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:37, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Picture 104
That was downright impressive.

If I get anything else like that, should I bounce it to you? I get a few a month that look like they have encyclopedic value but for the life of me I can't identify. Sadly, if no one on the IRC knows what they are they wind up at FfD.

Well, thanks for that.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  02:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. If there are Indian place (especially structures) related images I could help for the most part, this one I was lucky as the name of one of the shrines within the temple was written, it was just having to find out which temple in the region had that specific deity. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:37, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Tamil cinema
Hi, can you semi-protect the page. Looks like User:Sreekar akkineni is back. -- Commander (Ping Me) 09:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is him, but the IP is blocked for continuously blanking the article. I'll monitor for further socking. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Kurmi kshtriya
Thoughts welcome at User talk:Sitush -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That was quick :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:55, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I was actually reading the article and the other one when your message came, so it was a clear cut case. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:58, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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Another possible sock
Not to be getting all paranoid, but the same day (12 July) as we block a bunch of other socks, in comes in a brand-new reg, User:TomPaul67 who makes one edit on a non-India page, and then dives right into Talk:Kurmi. Some suspect to that his immediate priority is to assert that he's read a lot of books about India, and questions how we could possibly doubt the Tyagi source (completely discredited and apparently largely an uncredited rip-off of WP circa 2007). It looks like yet another sock, possibly with the intent of either getting Sitush and myself to waste time endlessly repeating what we've typed a hundred times already, or of just casting doubt upon our decisions by claiming expertise to support this terrible "reference". Note too that a popular argument on Tallk:Kurmi has been "look at all the people who've shown up to complain", so I suspect there's some socking or puppeting of some form or another going on. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If that's the case then you'll need to open a WP:SPI. A record of sorts would be ideal in these cases. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:56, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree it needs to be SPI'd. I have just taken a look and it is 99% certain Pravantv79 - even spells kshatriya in the same manner as was used on the article that you A10 deleted a few hours ago. - Sitush (talk) 07:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone is surprisingly familiar with policy - AN/EW. I am trying to get the SPI in before I get blocked, although I was not aware that I had exceeded 3RR & still do not consider it warring because there is an ongoing BRD discussion on the talk page: people are basically saying "well, I can comment there and immediately restore to the version I like", which is not how things work! - Sitush (talk) 09:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * SPI now filed at Sockpuppet_investigations/Ajneesh_Katiyar. - Sitush (talk) 09:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll watchlist the SPI, I haven't checked any contributions otherwise as I'm trying to do some other stuff right now. Will look in if needed after the CU. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

About Mamata
Hello SpacemanSpiff, Could you please upload an audio of Mamata Banerjee, like this .-- Kkm 010 * ۩ ۞ 14:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

You're being discussed on WP:NPOVN
Just in case you care, one of the caste SPAs (this one from Talk:Kurmi) has opened a discussion criticizing the behavior of you, Boing! said Zebedee, and myself (as "admins", even though I'm not one), as well as Sitush and MatthewVanitas. It's at WP:NPOVN if you feel like commenting. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:42, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm traveling currently, so will take a look when I get a good connection or get back. Cheers. &mdash; Spacesock  Spiff  17:06, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Looked now and doesn't seem to need any response from me. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Dawood Ibrahim
Hi. :) I've rolled this article all the way back to November 2009, before the introduction of copyvios by a known offender. I ran the remains through Earwig's tool and only found Wikipedia mirrors and sources that clearly copied us. But I haven't checked the article against its references (don't have time! I'm leaving town in 45 minutes). If you see any additional problems, please slap the tag back on it? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks ok to me so far, I'll relook later because part of the problem with this CCI was that it included non-searchable content from the sources (Google doesn't seem to throw it up but following the links to the sources shows the copyvio), but I think Bigtimepeace cleaned up most of it in his Nov 2009 revision. Thanks for taking care of this. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Dewan357
The IP came of your block and has started editing again --Sodabottle (talk) 12:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh, will take a look and do the needful. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

India FAR
Hi there, The history section expansion of India in response to FAR comments is now complete. All remaining issues have been addressed. Please weigh in at FARC. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  20:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * As I have edited the page in "maintenance mode" I think convention is that I shouldn't weigh in beyond the identification and addressing of issues, so I've just watchlisted the page and will try to address any issues that I can. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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UBX
I just wish to say that, if you haven't already noticed, I've removed one of your userboxes, but mainly because it was non-existant. I was sure you'd be okay that I did that, since there is no use in having a red-link where a userbox is meant to be. LikeLakers2 (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I did see that, I haven't seen my user page in ages and I haven't a clue on what's there and what's a red-link, so I appreciate the removal. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm probably misunderstanding you, but a red-link is basically a red-colored link that mediawiki uses when the page it links to has not been created yet. LikeLakers2 (talk) 18:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever is there is or was a userbox at sometime (and has been deleted since I added it) that I haven't noticed, that's all. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:54, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Speaking of userboxes, since User:Ajayville pretty much copied you, and most of it is likely to be false when on his page, shall I just remove his set of userboxes? And another thing, he added all those userboxes on the same edit. LikeLakers2 (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Userboxes have no value, so I don't see why they need to be removed (except maybe any like the recall one that you noticed, the GA one and such). cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I was just asking since he did copy off you, and that doing that like he did could be a licensing issue, according to User:Moonriddengirl. LikeLakers2 (talk) 17:34, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand the licensing implications, but since I'm the one that's "licensing" this and it's not really anything of significance I don't particularly care one way or the other -- you are free to blank it if you wish. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:41, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Since, excluding the s***load of userboxes on it, most of the page is just the headers with no actual information, except the last one, I'll just delete the headers that have nothing in em, and the userboxes, too. I'll leave a message on the user's talk page to notify them of this, however. LikeLakers2 (talk) 17:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I've decided to leave a lot of them in, and only remove some categories and the wikiproject templates. Oh, and that GA template, too. LikeLakers2 (talk) 18:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

MRG
Actually my protection summary should have read "We can revert ..." :-) Thanks, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:36, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha, no worries, least I could do for MRG :) &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Temple categories
Hello - I see that you are shuffling membership in some of the categories related to temples and places of worship in India. The categories do need some cleanup but it's not clear what your plan is.

Please leave a talkback when replying. Thank you. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that you saw the change on the Padmanabhaswamy temple. The Hindu temples in Kerala cat was close to 200 with quite a few non temples in there too. I'm just splitting it to the districts within Kerala (kind of like ) so that it follows the hierarchy of our regional categories when there are enough articles. This is just an offshoot of a discussion at WT:INB. BTW, I plan to send for a speedy rename to  as per the standard naming structure of the tree. Now given that these regional cats are going to be in the parent of  and the district cats of either  (if they exist) or, I'm removing those two simultaneously to avoid the overcat problem. Does this explain it? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  19:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply. I had not seen the WT:INB discussion. I saw the change on Padmanabhaswamy Temple and was puzzled as it did not seem like an WP:OVERCAT though I did see that the existing category layout was messy, both in the naming, and the membership. Moving the temples to a separate category per district makes sense.


 * Good luck with Kerala. Category:Hindu temples in Karnataka was fairly clean with only three temples that were not in districts. I fixed those. Kerala will need bit of time to break up.


 * While doing the Karnataka cleanup I saw that we have Category:Hindu temples in Uttar Kanada district while the article for the district spells it Uttara Kannada district. Are you familiar enough with the names and language to know if the category name should be fixed? I'm assuming that "Uttara Kannada" is a consensus determined name. List of districts of Karnataka also uses "Uttara Kannada." --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 23:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * That's a typo, I'll nom it for a speedy rename. The category tree seems a bit confused in many of these cases, we have categories for Thrissur and Thrissur district places of worship that are almost identical. I'm not sure the former is necessary and so on, but I'll leave that for a later date. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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Thiruppanandal taluk
Can you please delete the article Thiruppanandal taluk! It appears that there is no taluk by that name. I was misled by this map in the district government website. However, it appears this is a map of revenue blocks (which are sub-divisions of a taluk) in the district and not of taluks.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 14:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. You can also tag it as and leave a note on the talk page saying why (in cases like this a note would be ideal as there were other contributors though they it was just in maintenance form). cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:18, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!


Netha Hussain (talk) 18:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC) 
 * Thank you. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

More moves
Hello, if I wasn't so bloody lazy I would check these here. Not sure whether these are going the wrong way or right way, but there are a lot, and an edit summary would be a good idea. Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 12:29, 28 July 2011 (UTC)).
 * I checked a couple and they were incorrect moves, we've had to mass revert this user's moves before and he was warned too. Looks like some clean up is required. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I've left a note after yours. I might not be able to get to this for a few days as I have limited time on-wiki but I'll leave a note for another user who did some clean-up on similar moves before. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

FYI
I've reopened the AN/I thread here. The original complaint section I have left closed, as with the section later created that I closed quickly. There is now a third section for current discussion. CycloneGU (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

My moves
Sorry for offered no reason for changing names of various places, they are according to IAST (Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration) (Rameez pp (talk) 09:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC))

Rev Deletion
Hi can you delete this version. -- Commander (Ping Me) 11:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Happened to see this, I revdel'ed it. Though, it would help if you checked--that's the first time I deleted an edit, so I'm not 100% certain I got it right.    Qwyrxian (talk) 13:52, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice that SpacemanSpiff is off-wiki. Anyway thanks a lot. -- Commander (Ping Me) 12:03, 31 July 2011 (UTC)