User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Archives/2012/July

Socks?
See and. And having removed blatant (virtually the whole article) copyvio by both of them from Mehr Lal Soni Zia Fatehabadi (which I see was recreated after the AfD, I'll have to see if the problems there are solved), I now have to look at all their contributions! Dougweller (talk) 10:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Got that wrong, looks as though I found a site copying our article. Bad articles though. Dougweller (talk) 12:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Could be different, but there's been no edits for a month from this account. I can't seem to match the two writing styles currently. I've added to my watchlist so if I see any new evidence I'll act. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  07:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Calling on your memory for socks
Hi, can you remember the id of the prolific sockmaster in the US who keeps moving around the country using different IPs and has an interest in caste articles? I think that at one point they were based primarily in the north-east & were using educational institution IPs quite a but but more recently appear to have been travelling. I am hitting a sudden burst of activity from anons pushing a similar points who geolocate to: They may also be coming in from across the border in Toronto via Rogers Cable and Roger Wireless. If this lot really are the same person then they are changing locations at some speed nowadays! Perhaps proxies are involved ... or perhaps they really are unrelated and it is merely some quirk that more people in the US take an interest in Saini than do people in India. - Sitush (talk) 06:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * New Jersey (Verizon)
 * Little Rock (Comcast & University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences)
 * Katy, Texas (Christus Health)
 * San Jose (Comcast)
 * Dewan357 was from NJ and has access to a verizon IP as well as to his college IP. I don't remember him traveling this much though, but it is the travel season for him, and he has used proxies in the past. If you think it's Dewan, Kww is the best person to help as he's been cleaning up this mess for a really long time. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  07:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's the one! I've queried Kww. - Sitush (talk) 07:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Merging two pages
Hey! I think you should take a look at these two pages too. These two articles were about the same college. So, I merged them into one page (Motilal Nehru College) although Moti Lal Nehru College had more data. I also placed a merger template on the talk pages of both the articles. But I think you should take a look and see if I have done it correctly or not! Thanks and regards, Vishal14K | Talk 17:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Motilal Nehru College
 * Moti Lal Nehru College
 * This looks perfectly fine, in mergers such as this where both articles have independent and parallel growth, we normally don't do a hist-merge so what you've done is the best option. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:06, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

User:Suspected sockpuppet of Kinu
Thank you for blocking! Could I ask the nature of the userpage? Was it an attack image? I'll try to get it deleted if it is a recent upload if thats the case. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 08:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I meant to use G3 (vandalism) but accidentally went with G10 (attack). It just had the sockpuppet tag. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

commons:Template:Assessments/translate/ta
I see you are a native speaker of tamil. Do you think you can translate this template on commons? You can salvage commons:Template:Assessments/ta. Thanks! -- A Certain White Cat chi? 08:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

help guide/block
Even after your warning, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sonu101 is making inappropriate edits. Can you please have a look? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sonu101 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samba1234 (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not entirely sure what the chap is trying to do, but I've left another warning for now. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:Karthik Subramaniam
Hi, can you keep an eye over this user. He has been creating many imaginative films, many of which were already tagged for del. Also, an IP fan of Jyothika keeps introducing false claims on the article and other related pages. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  11:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've handles the articles, we had a similar Kannada actor last month. Prashant something. Is this the same Jyothika vs Simran IP war that happened a while ago? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess both are one and the same. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  06:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Names
I saw |editing in pune article.Since majority of the municipality indian articles are do not contains names in their native language.Please tell those wiki rules.Thank You 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ϟ   17:12, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your question. Can you be more clear? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I mean, why indian cities's name can't be written in "Pune (पुणे)", Chennai(சென்னை), and Kolkata(কলকাতা) manner.I hope this helps Thank You 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ϟ   04:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:INDICSCRIPT. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:17, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I see,Thanks a lot 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ϟ   13:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force
. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  11:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Indira Gandhi
if her page is not an example of persistent vandalism I dont know what is! any chance we can preempt all the coming edit wars and petty vandalism by a giving the page a protected status again? Cliniic (talk) 19:34, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

related
I saw you give that user Tathya The a warning for fringe material. can you please kindly take a look into the Pranab Mukerji article? A user inserted a Subash Chandra Bose conspiracy theory. I have been meaning to delete it but wasnt sure if outright deleting it would be ok. Cliniic (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look later when I have time, but in such cases, the quickest option especially in BLPs is to post on WP:BLP/N and any controversial and unsourced/dubiously sourced content can be removed from BLPs. As far as this issue is concerned, if the disruption becomes difficult you can request protection at WP:RFPP. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why you guys want to portray only positives of Indira. Feroze's original surname was Ghandhy, which has been suggested by Mr. Arun Gandhi, Mohandas Gandhi's grandson, on record. Yet, you would call it a conspiracy!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tathya The (talk • contribs) 19:57, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Please find reliable sources and bring up on the talk page, get consensus. Right now, what you're presenting is just a fringe viewpoint that doesn't merit real estate in any of the articles you're trying to add to. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Here are other references: Alternative Views (1992). A CONVERSATION WITH ARUN GANDHI. Retrieved from: http://archive.org/details/AV_479-A_CONVERSATION_WITH_ARUN_GANDHI [2] Sau, Ranjit. (1999). From Sanskritisation to Hindi-Isation and Hindu-Isation: The 13th Lok Sabha. Economic and Political Weekly, Vol. 34, No. 42/43 (Oct. 16-29, 1999), pp. 2979-2983. (see Note# 8)[3] Tinker, Hugh. (1985). Can the new Indian pilot weather the storm? The Roaund Table: The Commonwealth Journal of International Affairs. 74(293), 16-20. [4] Please verify these references before sending me notices. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tathya The (talk • contribs) 00:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Read WP:RS, WP:FRINGE, WP:NPOV/WP:DUE before bringing anything here or asking me not to send you notices. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:56, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

User:94.98.72.68
Please block this IP atleast for 24 hours.Continuous vandalism ever after warning.  TheStrike  Σagle   09:06, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just seeing this now, and it's over an hour since the last contribution and a dynamic ip so I won't block now, but if there's any other such issue I'll block as soon as I see it. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Image of rajesh khanna
If only one image is to be uploaded better to change to the image from the film Chhailla Babu or Prem Nagar. The image uploaded currently of Khanna is just a year before his death adn so looks dull. Put image of Khanna at his peak 1966-1991. example check out these pictures http://3gpsongs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/rajesh.jpg and http://manoharv2009.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/308875_218740771524475_100001656606674_551459_703043311_n.jpg Onceshook1 (talk) 03:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You are Shirik88music, correct? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:00, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No. Any plans to change the image?Onceshook1 (talk) 04:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No. If you have free images, upload them on commons, no copyvios. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Limits of vandalism
I rarely warn people of vandalism but have just done so in relation to a big revert at Dara Singh. The revert involved reinstatement of blatantly fake references, which I had been carefully weeding out per my edit summaries. Am I on safe ground to call such apparently wilful misrepresentation vandalism or should I rephrase my warning? - Sitush (talk) 04:28, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't checked the refs or content (or even looked at the article), but if the issue is addition of content with reference falsification, then I believe it's correct to issue a warning for vandalism. However, if the user is not responsive I'd list out a few examples of it and take it to ANI rather than revert any further as it's not easy to figure this out for an admin when evaluating for 3RR/EW. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:34, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. They've deleted the warning anyway. I'll see what develops. - Sitush (talk) 04:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * YGM. - Sitush (talk) 05:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Gopalbitode & sanctions
Bearing in mind this section of their talk page, would you care to review the recent activity of ? You have twice blocked them recently. - Sitush (talk) 10:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Persistent copyvio
Have removed copyvio paragraph three times from this article Rab Se Sohna Isshq and have warned three different editors for that. (Those three could be one and the same.) But do you have any better plan than good-work-keep-doing-that? §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 06:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * THose are actually IPs (there was some announcement before on the new IPv6 address types), so I've semiprotected. That should also take care of any new socks. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Good job! You are gonna be my admin-at-hand. I am gonna bother you with many minor things that only admins can do. Other talk-page-stalker admins are also welcome. Lets start! The article on the song "Mera naam Chin Chin Chu" should be at "Mera Naam Chin Chin Chu" (capital "N" in "Naam"). However i am not able to move it as a redirect at it already exists. Mera Naam Chin Chin Chu. It redirects to the film Chandni Chowk to China as it claims to be its earlier title. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 12:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with MOS stuff for songs. Is there a standard naming convention? I ask because it was moved to this title suggesting some naming convention. Also, the best thing for you to do in such cases is to tag the redirect with as that will bring it to the attention of admins who do this on a more regular basis. Let me know about any MOS/style guide for such things, and I'll take care of it. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:26, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * MOS for Composition titles states "In the English titles of compositions (books and other print works, songs and other audio works, films and other visual media works, paintings and other artworks, etc.), every word is given an initial capital except for certain less important words." §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Directorate of Matriculation Schools, Tamil Nadu for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Directorate of Matriculation Schools, Tamil Nadu is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Directorate of Matriculation Schools, Tamil Nadu until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. BabuOnWiki (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Attacks at Talk:Bhagavad Gita
There are problems at Talk:Bhagavad Gita. A discussion concerning dating the work initially involved and. I was asked to take a look at it and did so, starting from this comment. Things smoothed out ok and the two people were progressing things nicely. Then joined in the thread here.

Things have gone downhill rapidly. Although myself, Tito and CK have continued to maintain a courteous tone and have been attempting to progress things, BA soon began resorting to attacks. They filed at SPI (probably good faith, but ludicrous nonetheless), then began to lose the plot a little wrt to policy. Subsequently, a lack of AGF began to creep in, and here also. At that point, with things going round in circles regarding requests for BA to provide more info, I put my foot down. And then the ridiculous accusations of lying etc started with this, Tito pointed out the obvious, although perhaps BA has just been away for a couple of days etc, and I tried to get things back on track with requests (yet again) for substantive input instead of waffle. That resulted in another accusation of lying, for which I issued a templated warning. BA persisted, appeared to do some outing, made a poor claim of bias and produced a really weird comment about me before changing their mind.

While Tito and CorrectKnowledge are working to resolve their differences and have jointly accepted my input in a sort of advisory capacity (I have no opinion on the content and am just guiding them re: reliability of sources and policy), BrahmanAdvaita is losing his/her rag a bit and it is not productive. CK has just asked Redtigerxyz for input - a good thing - and if needs must then this can go to WP:DRN, but I am away over the weekend and somewhat concerned that BA is increasingly overstepping the civility mark. Can you keep an eye on things? - Sitush (talk) 13:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If Redtigerxyz has been asked for help, then the discussion will go somewhere, he's probably the most experienced editor at WP:IN on these topics. I'll add the article to my watchlist, but I may not have much time to look over it until after another 24 hours. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff 


 * It appears that things are going smoothly now? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It does, with the exception of one person. Redtogerxyz kept out of it, btw. - Sitush (talk) 11:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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GS at Kulin Kayastha
Please see Talk:Kulin_Kayastha and the contribution history + talk page of. This crap has gone on for long enough, IMO. - Sitush (talk) 20:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

i already tried it but it has not worked because every source been provided by me has been said not fully sourced but the source which is also not fully evidence proof has been accepted so thats why i have to went for this activity, because many people raised questions about the article & no definite answer has been given!still there is no evidential scripted family tree produced which support the theory that kulin kayasthas are sudras, then why not the article has not been changed? if anybody dont have any full probe about the theory then both the theories should be there in the article, because it is already started confusing the readers and forcing us to believe the theory which is not fully evidence proof.

And the one & only Sitush|talk],who called me "crap", he himself making abusive words for me(crap) probe his way of mannerism. He is constantly reverting the other's sources & pressing his own belief is a definite act of vandalism, & if this is going on then i will again put up things like that & for that if wikicommunity want to put bann on me then i accept that.--Hrishiraj talk (talk) 07:10, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Sock's articles
Hi there! Two articles of User:Mr Hamza's puppets were deleted recently. But i had worked on these articles and added RS to them. Also they pass WP:NACTOR for multiple roles in TV serials. Can you restore these articles again? They were Pooja Joshi and Shivshakti Sachdev. I had asked the admins who deleted those, User:Hadal and User:Tonywalton. But it seems they are not here since then. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 19:51, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just wait a couple of days, and if you don't get a response then, request at WP:REFUND. I'm not likely to be active for a bit, so I don't want to not be here to justify my reversal of someone else's action. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No probs! §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 20:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Disruptive user
Do you think this user could be a possible candidate for an SPI? After being given several warnings, he hasn't bothered to change his ways. Secret of success (talk) 08:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's him. This user had registered before four years but hardly has somewhere around 400 edits. But his intentions (POV pushing in Telugu cinema) and editing pattern seems quite similar to that of the previous socks. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  08:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like it to me, don't forget he's had sleepers in the past, so this won't be the first time. It could also be a compromised account that's he got access to -- as the editing behavior has changed remarkably over the past few months, there appears to be a lot of similarities esp if you compare the most recent Paansingh account, and similar UTP canvassing etc. cheers &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Largest Metropolitan Areas of Uttar Pradesh
Do you think there is a need for this template. Your thoughts are welcome. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  04:08, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is, there was one created for India too, which we stopped using at India because of the usefulness reasons. However, taking it to TfD won't help if it's in use. And use will essentially have to be discussed on article talk pages. Best would be to have it renamed to define the scope. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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