User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Archives/2016/May

Arthashastra
@SpacemanSpiff: We have the same @Mayasutra-like behavior on Talk:Arthashastra page. A dormant account has become active, and the user has started editwarring with, "I don't care how many scholars you present who..." and "I will NOT allow you to misrepresent my civilization's heritage...". Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 10:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is part of the process of editing Wikipedia and at this point I don't think there's anything for an admin to do, it's mostly editorial discussion that's needed (including, but not limited to, policy education). The user hasn't been warned and 's suggestions on the talk page seem workable and his observation of years vs experience is particularly valid. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:35, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Tushar Unadkat (Speedy Deletion)
Hi. I am requesting more information regarding your speedy deletion of the "Tushar Unadkat" page. I would like to put this page in motion, as Unadkat's social and cultural standing and qualifications (artistically speaking) come second to promotion. In other words, as a celebrity and artist in the South Asian sphere, is it my belief that he qualifies a Wikipedia page. Perhaps, instead, I should write the article without reference to his company? And I also do not quite understand how it has been said to be copied from another source, as I took this on board and paraphrased it all so as to make it better. I'm not sure if you saw this second copy. All the best, Daniel. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieljasonbinks (talk • contribs) 16:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , large parts of the article were copied from elsewhere and the article itself read like a advertorial and was deleted under those two criteria. If you would like to create the article again, I'd suggest using the articles for creation process. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Joni Green Tea (producer-mix engeneer)
hello, my name is Joni Myllari and i am a real person. i am a mixing engineer for capital records and my page was deleted by you for some reason i was hoping you would be able to put in back up. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelWoods CapitalRecords (talk • contribs) 21:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , our article subjects have to pass the notability criteria. The page was deleted as there was no evidence that the subject meets that criteria. Please wait for independent reliable sources to write about the subject and after that you can use those as references to create an article here. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:10, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

IBAN
How does this practically work? If someone is not to interact directly won't they always pick a bone and make the other party helpless, by lets say, adding/removing similar but not same text as reverts are also banned in it? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 01:08, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * IBANs are a seductive tool but are lousy in practice. Usually, the two users edit in overlapping areas and, sooner or later, one user or the other goes running to ANI crying 'iban violation' and adding to the already plentiful drama. One-way IBANs do work though because the clearly disruptive editor is the one handicapped. I hope this is a theoretical question! --regentspark (comment) 01:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * We rarely overlap our areas thats because am getting out of that genre of articles. Its not just for theory and maybe SS can guess the link. The "make reference to or comment on each other anywhere on Wikipedia, directly or indirectly;" part of IBAN is the one am looking for mostly. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 02:16, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with RP here. I personally don't like IBANs as it wastes the time of other editors more than that of the interaction banned editors and I don't usually support them in concept or waste my time enforcing them though exceptions do apply. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well... lets see what happens then... §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of IP talk page
Can you delete my talk page User talk:123.136.106.97 and another my User talk:123.136.106.206? Thank you. 123.136.106.97 (talk) 05:21, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, talk pages can not be deleted unless their creation was a result of vandalism/mistake or another valid reason. Is there a reason like that? Messages meant for prior users don't usually qualify. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  05:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

RfC
Is it the right way to start an RfC at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics?-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   09:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I said earlier, you have to give reasons for it and propose something specific, this is too open ended to get anything but pie-in-the-sky responses. Some of the people who work on geographic articles may be able to help. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:47, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

speedy deletion
I am writing to respectfully protest the deletion of an article entitled "Haunted Knoxville Ghost Tours." The article was deleted because it was said to be advertising. Nothing could be further from the truth. I wrote the story after reading a similar article written for Banjo Billy's Bus Tours. The two articles are very similar. You have published Banjo Billy's but deleted mine. I would like to make some changes to the story if you feel it would be helpful and resubmit it. I would prefer that you simply undelete the story. What must I do to make it acceptable? I would like to have the story posted under the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ghost_tours category.

Thank you for your consideration, ````Mwilmichael```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwilmichael (talk • contribs) 16:17, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , the article as it stood qualified for deletion under speedy deletion criteria. If you would like to make a fresh draft that is not advertorial in nature and includes sufficient reliable source references to meet our notability standards, please create an article using the articles for creation process. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

India article
Hello,

I have tried to add some new and relevant information to the article about India. Citations are available for all the facts added, and I believe that consensus is achievable for facts already recognised on other Wikipedia pages. The new information adds a summary about the geopolitical role of India which, as mentioned, is already expressed in the rest of the article. I look forward to your reply and assistance.

Thanks,

Krq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krq (talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Not every fact that can be cited belongs in the article, let alone the lede. If we went that route we wouldn't have an encyclopaedia article but a ten thousand page book. If you think something is missing in a summary style article then it is best to bring it up on the talk page and get consensus for the changes you're proposing. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:21, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Concerning the speedy deletion of Dingtone page
Dear SpacemanSpiff, I am Ellen Cooper, a new member of WIKI. I have long been an active user of Dingtone free calling app so I created the Dingtone page. The article of Dingtone is my first article on Wiki. I am sorry if it appears inappropriate and I was wondering if you could recover the article and offer me some advise on how it should be amended. Your feedback would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.Ellen Cooper (talk) 01:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , the article read like a product brochure that was meant to advertise the product. E.g., "...transforms your phone into a real Walkie Talkie - simply push a button and speak. It works like a two way radio! Push to talk and voicemail are perfectly tied into one clean interface. " and so on do not belong in encyclopaedia articles. Articles have to be written in a neutral manner, citing reliable source references. You can try creating an article using the articles for creation process where any submission of yours will be reviewed. I'd suggest that you read and edit other Wikipedia articles and once you get a hang of it you can submit a fresh, clean version through the articles for creation process. Happy editing. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Editing the recently deleted page
Hi

I was wondering if i can rewrite the page to meet guidelines and put it back on, please advise.

The below page was recently deleted by you. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lourd_Vijay&action=edit&redlink=1

This was my first try at wiki and i might have unintentionally not met some guidelines. Request your kind cooperation to correct it.

thank you amit

Amitywiki (talk) 03:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , the page was an advertisement/resume for the services offered by the subject and was deleted. Please note that Wikipedia article subjects have to meet our notability requirements in addition to being written from a neutral point of view and sourced to reliable sources. The subject's own website and directly listings don't qualify for that. Also, please carefully read and comply with the conflict of interest notice that I'll leave on your talk page soon. If you wish to create a neutral and well-sourced article, please do so following the articles for creation process. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:33, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Photo of Mohan Joshi.
Dear Spaceman Spiff,

I had made the wikipedia article - "Mohan Joshi - Spiritual Healer" at the behest of Mr. Joshi himself. He provided me with the profile picture which you say to be copyrighted. I can have Mr. Joshi confirm for you that he has no issues with the profile pic you saw. Could you please provide your email?

Otherwise - Mr. Joshi's email is healmohan@yahoo.co.in. You can check with him to confirm that the profile pic is okay. Would really appreciate it if you could check with him, and un-delete the article, which took me a few hours to write. Otherwise, I will have to write it again from scratch.

Regards, Dev Ganesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.153.169 (talk • contribs)
 * The article was deleted because it was written like an advertisement and therefore can not be restored. Please note that Wikipedia articles have to meet our notability criteria and must be reliably referenced. As for the image, please ask Mr Joshi to follow the process listed at Commons:COM:OTRS. In addition, it appears that you have a conflict of interest with this topic, I will leave you a note regarding that on your talk page, please comply with the process listed. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  05:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Editing mistake
Sorry for my edit. I was changing National game of India from Unknown to Hockey. But I tried to undo my edit but it shows edit conflict. I'm an amateur editor. Please can you make the changes.Aashay114 (talk) 08:09, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , the included reference clearly states to the contrary. Please note that content on Wikipedia has to be sourced to reliable sources. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:38, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyan4#May_2016
SpacemanSpiff, Because of the unique and unusual page name content at "INTERNATIONAL_SOCIETY_FOR_KRISHNA_CONSCIOUSNESS" I contributed towards that some Wikimedia members (and you were latest member to delete my talk page content at "INTERNATIONAL_SOCIETY_FOR_KRISHNA_CONSCIOUSNESS") there is no question of me being partisan and partial and what you call COI. The limitation lies with the deleters in not taking time to read the contributed content to understand. Please let me describe what I mean - usually on Wikipedia content there are content boundaries like there is on a political map and where you apply COI procedure. This conditioning does not work when there is a geographical map and not any political map.Cyan4 (talk) 22:12, 8 May 2016 (UTC) Cyan4 (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I blame for this; however, I'm not really sure what you're trying to do or say, here or anywhere else except sufficient to respond that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and doesn't have place for content such as what you were posting. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  00:34, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'm happy to take the blame (and the invoice for my scapegoat services is in the post). But seriously, I also don't understand what you're trying to say here, Cyan4, and I don't understand what that article was supposed to be - though it wasn't an encyclopedia article. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I do like the phrase "content boundary" though, maybe I'll use it in the future. - Brianhe (talk) 08:32, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Payment in the form of T-shirts, dispatched within three years. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Can I have a custom slogan on mine: "I edit without content boundaries"? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:13, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll chip in 20 bucks if I can have one too - Brianhe (talk) 09:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you are both constrained by boundaries. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:49, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Deleted page -Charanpreet Singh
Kindly revert why u have deleted page Charanpreet Singh with reasons,It has proper references and sources and it was up from last 2 months ?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonusinghmumbai (talk • contribs) 14:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Charanpreet Singh. Also, what you had written was largely copied from here. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Brijwood
Thanks for re-deleting the Brijwood article and the latest User:Jschauhan sockpuppet. Any chance of "salting" Brijwood - as it has been deleted 4 times in the last 5 days. Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 15:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll salt it, I was hesitant to do it earlier as this was an easy way to catch the socking but please look for any new titles now :) &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I understand the "easy way to catch them" idea, but having made the word up, I suspect the idea of having an article under another title is not very attractive. I have a search for Brijwood on my "favourites" links - just need to delete the category, already at Categories for discussion/Log/2016 May 5 - Thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 15:27, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Question on WP:CANVASS
Hi Spaceman, Haven't had a chance to say `hi' after you came back from your break. Hope you had a good break. NeilN and Abecedare still seem to be away.

I have a couple of questions on WP:CANVASS, which are coming up often recently: Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 10:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Is it inappropriate to invite an editor with expertise in a topic to an article talk page discussion?
 * Is it inappropriate to invite an editor with past experience with a user to comment in WP:AE or WP:ANI etc.?
 * It really depends on context IMO. e.g. If I were to get involved in a problem on Avatar I could go to Redtigerxyz and ask him for his opinion in that discussion like "there's this discussion on whether or not Murugan should be included as an example in this page, can you participate" and it shouldn't be considered canvassing, but if I left the same message for RegentsPark I would say it should be considered canvassing because the latter (sorry ) doesn't have any expertise in that area although he edits related areas. If I were to leave a message for Redtiger like "I've suggested that Murugan be included as an example in Avatar, can you voice your opinion?" or something to that effect, it would be a problem.
 * As far as AE/ARCA goes, I'll use 's suggestion to me a while back. I'd say something similar applies at ANI. If there's reason to include another incident (to show some pattern or something) then notifying the other person is appropriate, it would be inappropriate to do so just because the other person was also in a dispute with the subject of the ANI.
 * Maybe RP or Liz, or would care to weigh in. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:59, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I think neutrally-worded requests for comment shouldn't be considered canvassing...see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology for an example. If you do leave a notice, simply invite the editor to comment without implying that they should take any particular stance. And, as SpacemanSpiff implies, if you do leave messages on editors' talk pages, they shouldn't just be individuals on one side of an ongoing dispute. Liz  Read! Talk! 14:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * An invitation to an AE case here is currently being questioned. The editor had opened an ANI complaint against the subject regarding another page. So, it does satisfy the idea of "including another incident to show a pattern," but it also clear that it is stacking a negative opinion.
 * It seems to me AE cases should be exempt from any CANVASS restrictions because it is an effort to assess the subject's conduct overall. So it should be possible to invite anybody who had interactions with the subject. We would assume that the subject himself/herself would have invited any editors that could give a favourable opinion. I would also argue that AE cases are not consensus-based, but they are assessed based on evidence. So any evidence that is available should be brought to the fore.
 * Perhaps, I should open a discussion on the talk page of WP:CANVASS? Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 16:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to stay away from any India-Pakistan conflict activity, both editorially (which I haven't done since starting to edit here) and administratively. Therefore I will not comment on this. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:45, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

User:Divyabhartiportalofficial
I suspect sock puppetry here. Should an SPI be filed to detect other probable accounts? I'm not very familiar with this case so maybe there already is one filed... Sunekit (talk) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked, no need of an SPI, it's just been a long term IP/account that's been trying to spam their tribute website on here. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

India infobox religious figures
Hey. Apparently, the infobox figures mislead compared to the rest of the article. It doesn't even add up to 100. I tried to fix it here, and I think you overlooked it and did an entire revert. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:44, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I must've edit conflicted with you on that while trying to restore the earlier version without the laundry list of festivals. Occasionally happens with restoring edits using Twinkle, let me restore your nos. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've fixed per the census table now. It should be ok. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:57, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Source Citations
I am new to WIki and don't know how to cite sources. Instead of being a prick and rolling back the edits try be a contributing editor by adding sources. It will only take a couple of clicks to find it on Google. NOT EVERYONE HAS A PERSONAL AGENDA AND ANALYSIS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikieditorindian (talk • contribs) 18:03, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Ref Spam
Hey Spiff. What does one do with reference spamming? See, and. Could be many other IPs. Is there a bot that will remove the whole lot? --regentspark (comment) 22:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sigh,, this chap was discussed at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive922 just last week or so. I think it may be time to request 's services to prevent this for a while, but as far as cleaning up the existing mess goes I don't know what or  ended up doing. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  02:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not act further on it because another editor made a case that they should not be mass-reverted (that there was enough value in the links such that once added, would need manual checking each to decide whether to keep). I agree that one might think some of them have value, and have no problem with someone checking some manually. But I disagree that "once they've been added, keep until somone else individually decide to remove" should be the starting point, rather than scrapping until someone else individually decide to (re)add. Because there wasn't unanimity and I would be seen to be WP:INVOLVED, I left it for someone else to evaluate consensus. But it now looks archived without further action:( I would be happy to unarchive it if there's motivation to get it closed. DMacks (talk) 02:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The IPs locate to either Pakistan or Durham. The citations are almost entirely trivial. In all likelihood it is the author himself who is doing the spamming. With the three above, that makes 4 IPs that have been adding the refs and there are likely to be others. Perhaps we should unarchive the thread. --regentspark (comment) 14:02, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I see that User:DVdm has undone at least one of the newest ones. I'm not sure what reopening this would achive. He's mentioned in a lot of our articles. And looking at the first in that list, Burjor Avari, he was added by the article's creator, User:Kautilya3. I think only hand removal will work. I thought about an edit filter but I'm not sure it could be justified. Doug Weller  talk 14:36, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think automated deletions would be ok. They could be marked as "suspected REFSPAM" or something like that. Those of us that have added genuine citations can always revert the bot. - Kautilya3 (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This may be a bigger problem than we can see. For example, this insertion dates from July 2013 and is still in there. The edit itself is innocuous ("it is also found in the Caspian Sea") and contains information that is in the article. But the only intent seems to be to add the citation. And, of course, the citation is still in the text. Ideally, we should have a bot search for "Mughal, Muhammad Aurang Zeb" inside a ref tag and just delete on sight. I doubt if any of the citations are particularly useful. --regentspark (comment) 15:40, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I doubt there's a bot to do that, simply remove on sight, I remember going through this exercise for that Gyan nonsense and some other stuff. However, I didn't realize that is also an edit filter editor, maybe something for the next few months may help? The chap might just get the message and stop doing it. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:52, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think the chap will just get the message and stop doing it. This must be a way of life. See also User talk:Oshwah and Sockpuppet investigations/129.234.0.13. - DVdm (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not realize that there was doi fudging and stuff going on. Now convinced that an edit filter is needed, though those folks might think that it'd be too expensive for something so trivial. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:18, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I really think a bot won't work. I can't see how it could work with Burjor Avari. Wish it would though. Doug Weller talk 17:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an edit filter with a manual cleanup would do the trick. This last example of Doug's is particularly gratuitous. --regentspark (comment) 17:37, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is terrible, this book is used as a reference and the chap is a minor contributor to one section there and he's spammed his name across every single entry of that book on here. I've cleaned up about 50 such references now. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:31, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I randomly found these two anon editors: Special:Contributions/94.1.153.217 and Special:Contributions/119.154.91.81. I'm sure there are more. - Brianhe.public (talk) 08:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, lots and lots more; there are over 300 entries with the name in one format currently. One IP was changing the name format, so I'm guessing there are more name formats than the two that I've seen so far. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Indian Copyrights Act
Recently an image of sketch Padma Vibhushan medal was deleted as copyvio from Commons. I went on to request undeletion at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2016-05#File:Padma_Vibhushan_India_Ie_Klasse.jpg but forgot about it and never replied there. However, two arguments were made there that I am looking answers for. First was whether the medal was PD on 1st Jan 1996. Well, it was not. But shouldn’t URAA not be the only reason for deletion? Secondly it was put forth that coins/medals and for that matter stamps and such stuff also are actually created by non-government employee and hence should not fall under 60years PD rule of government works? If that is so, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Currency#India should be mended right? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * URAA is applied very inconsistently on Commons, as an admin there you should know that! Technically, most Indian stuff can be deleted under URAA but is kept as PD-India. Jim's point on government works is valid but I don't think he may have realized that the term is the same, whether it's private or government work (e.g. he may be confusing it for UK law which is different for govt vs private, the two laws split in 1956). It's probably worth checking with him as I think he's probably got the best grasp of image copyright law that I've seen on wiki. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes I know that URAA isn't applied uniformly and that's why with limited time at hand I don't deal with those things on Commons. Anyways... will talk over this with Jim. On a different topic, why are talk pages for images that exist on Wikimedia Commons excluded from WP:G8 over here? Of what use is, for example, this particular page File talk:IIM Udaipur Academic Block.jpg? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:39, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know the reason but I'm guessing this spamming of Wikiproject Udaipur, Jodhpur etc is going on on talk pages now? This reminds me of that Wikiraja nonsense of creating a multitude of Tamil POV projects that did nothing but tag our existing articles and claimed credit for the FAs, GAs etc and then ended up bringing down the quality of those, you just have to see Tamils for the effect of this sort of crap. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:02, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Here you go DD -- Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:IIM Udaipur Academic Block.jpg &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well yes.... That tagging and labeling is going on now. When we opposed creation of such short sighted sub-projects no one probably realized how much e-garbage they produce. There will be talk pages, templates, categories and so on... This can't even be curbed from a larger discussion forums as they always think WP's servers are big enough for all your crap. Great its nipped from bud in this particular case. §§Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:13, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * People are still capable of on-wiki promotions. See Draft:Saksham everyone is capable, Draft:Gaurav Goswami (Body Builder) and Draft:Bodybuilding the Indian Way. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Pritam Panda
I know this guy personally. We all believed he is an international designer. Even national newspapers believed this guy.

I saw these two news which covered the story:

http://odishasuntimes.com/2016/03/18/exclusive-interview-fashion-designer-pritam-panda-expose/

http://odishasuntimes.com/2016/03/19/pritam-panda-expose-exclusive-interview-ram-ratan/

Odishasuntimes also found out that he claimed to have fashion degree from a French university, but that university don't give fashion degrees.

In 2010, TimesofIndia, Calcutta Telegraph and newindianexpress published that he got World Chopard Young Entrepreneur Award 2010. But google search shows there is no awards as "World Chopard Young Entrepreneur Award 2010". The search results are about news reports mentioning him being the recipient.

In 2013, once again national newspapers reported that he got Murex Global Fashion award. Again google results don't show anything about "Murex Global Fashion award". Even this time the search results are about him getiing the award

Now a facebook user has uploaded many pics which showed and proved beyond doubt that he has photoshopped/morphed pictures of Arabian models and designer with his own face. What baffles me is that why reporters from national newspapers didn't verify when this guy posted those fake facebook pictures?

I checked the facebook account of the user who exposed him after reading the news and found the original pictures. He has deleted the images, but snapshot exists.

Now should the article be kept or deleted? As the sources are reliable but the stories are fake? 182.66.54.206 (talk) 10:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is an experiment to show how a fake business can receive awards and awesome newspaper coverage, that should answer the question on newspaper verification. Also, this piece on how our our "prestigious" WP:Teahouse is featured in this spam article on the New Indian Express should give you an idea about the quality of crap that gets published. While I don't know what the deal is here (I have no reason to disbelieve you on this), it's not my area of interest. I personally think that it should be deleted if what you're saying is right but my opinion is not in line with current consensus, Wikipedia has an extremely low bar on notability for such articles and if you do take it to WP:AfD, there is a 50% chance that the article will be kept citing that Wikipedia articles have to be verifiable, not true -- a bastardization of the intent of content must be verifable (necessity) and not just true (sufficiency). I have therefore decided to avoid AfD as much as possible as it seems to be nothing more than a waste of my time. is particularly fond of the fashion industry and may be able to check and work with you on an AfD if that seems worth it. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:52, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry Sir! Getting out of showbiz articles. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh the Indian Express story is pure gold! The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about writing an article about my Wikixploits using The Times of India as a reference. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, not a reliable source. While the article mentions “administrator SpacemanSpiff landing on the page to scrub it clean of errors", the illustration clearly shows the Masked Man of Mega Might swooping in. The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 16:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That looked more like a Vodafone ad than an image of my alter ego! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah yes. SuperZoozoo! The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 17:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Prestigious teahouse sockpuppet
Omg, I just saw this SPI. That article is hilarious! I didn't know political parties in India actually hire people to look after their online presence though. I will have a closer look at the account's edits later. Great job! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * LOL, I remember that article. It was honestly a pretty major indication that the newspaper had done little to no actual research on Wikipedia. I was wondering how long it would take that editor to get into trouble on Wikipedia. In all fairness, he lasted a lot longer than I had expected him to. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:26, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , I do address emails, even if after many many months :) BTW, this might be related to Long-term abuse/India Against Corruption sock-meatfarm if the AAP angle is indeed a correct claim (LG, it's only the AAP which does this, the other parties don't do it directly, at least not yet). Also, could you please take a look at Sockpuppet investigations/Randhwasingh‎ and Sockpuppet investigations/Satya satapathy and note your opinions and/or take any admin action there please? cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Request for your review on Dingtone
Dear SpacemanSpiff, I am Ellen and I have revised my article about Dingtone calling app, would you kindly review and tell me if it is qualified for a wiki entry now? Thank you in advance! Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dingtone and thank you again. Have a great day. Ellen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellen Cooper (talk • contribs) 02:33, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , I agree with LaMona's review of the AfC. I don't think the subject is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. In addition, the draft still reads like a product brochure and if it were in article space, it would be deleted as advertising. I'd suggest you work on other articles now and come back to this when multiple reliable sources write about Dingtone. Cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

moving kobi arad
Hi SpacemanSpiff! I was wondering if you could use your admin powers to move Kobi Arad (musician) to Kobi Arad (old one protected for repost looks like). Thanks. Also, you might find it relevant that the "internet" (i.e. goodreads) just voted Calvin and Hobbes the best book ever :) Earflaps (talk) 01:09, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've moved the article; it's not eligible for G4 but there's a lot of sourcing to the subject's own site and Amazon which makes me question notability once more. I'll ask to have a look at it. Cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I had a look at the article just now. The notability of the artist is borderline - the Ynet source is reliable. The All about Jazz and Jazz Times are 2 album reviews - I'm not familiar with the sources so I don't know how reliable they are. I'm also not sure if album reviews count as significant coverage. For a notable artist, I would have expected a bit more coverage. An AfD could go either way at this stage.
 * Regarding the article content, there are a lot of non-reliable sources - this kickstarter campaign, this event listing, another event listing, self-described youtube video and I wouldn't use them in the article at all. The article needs to be trimmed as well as a large amount of content is sourced to the subject's website. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

==Gajulamandyam== Could you please correct this User talk:Gajulamandyam to Talk:Gajulamandyam. A user moved article page to a userpage and adding WP:OR.-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   05:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</ strike>

Requesting help about copyright blanking
Hi,

Contacting you since you are one of the few people on enwiki I have interacted with. Apologising in advance since this is not something you are directly involved with.

The page Indian Institute of Information Technology, Allahabad has been blanked due to supposed copyright violation. The page has stayed this way for more than a month now, with no activity at Copyright_problems. There has been no discussion about how much of the page violates copyright, and it is unfortunate that the entire article about a major institute in India with nearly a decade of wiki history stays in limbo like this. Can something be done about this page one way or the other? I mean, even if the page is entirely purged, someone could build it from scratch. But the way it is right now, no one is going to dare to touch it.

Thank you, and best wishes -- Raziman T V (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is no different from our many educational institution articles where students just copy random things from the website and add it here. Unfortunately this has to be investigated and there's a shortage of volunteers required for this sort of clean up where one can check the revision to restore to and delete the rest; it is a time consuming process. If you think there's a particular version in the article's history that is free of copyright then let me know, though at this point I see copyvios going all the way to December 2010. And it's different copyvios at different points in time. Technically, a fresh version can be started at Talk:Indian Institute of Information Technology, Allahabad/Temp but that could be used after reverting to a reasonable version. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:53, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --Raziman T V (talk) 14:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Your Help
Hello SS. I apologize for the work which was disruptive and will avoid it in future. I need your help in this regard so I can work better. Thanks <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> GreenCricket  (talk)  15:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please read through WP:PRIMARYTOPIC first, you're changing main articles to disambiguated names that cause more confusion to the reader. A reader who is looking for Mohammad Sami is left wondering based on the disambiguated title as to who they were actually looking for. This is very similar to your first moves where you changed the names of colleges to unnecessarily disambiguated titles. If you recognize these errors and stop doing it (especially since this particular naming issue was brought to your attention a few weeks back also!) &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  15:08, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Why you deleted Siddharth Slathia's wiki bro
While recreating my brother siddharth slathia's wiki,it says you previously deletd his wiki. please respond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chitransh25 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see any deletion of mine in this, can you tell me what your earlier account's name is? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  18:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)