User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Archives/2017/November

Review needed
Hey, can you please tell me if this is ok? Thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])  13:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


 * That's not right, I've warned the user, but you shouldn't be using rollback for that either. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Should it be reverted? I already explained on talk page. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])  13:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to get involved in the content, I just commented on the process/behavior; to get additional eyes on content, you can ask at WT:INB or whatever Wikiproject handles taxes/economy etc. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:35, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

request for page protection
Hey spacemanSpiff....i request page protection this page Raashi Khanna. N&amp;tsofficial (☎) 06:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Request to remove protected status
Sir I request you to please remove protected status on article Ambarish Srivastava so that I can edit my mistake. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by N1197L (talk • contribs) 13:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

About Ambarish Srivastava
Thanks for your attention on the topic. Would you like to highlight what you call as SPAM in my edit on article Ambarish Srivastava? Thanks in advance. N1197L (talk) 12:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * GIven the amount of socking around this "poetry" bit which has been rejected in the past, I'm surprised you have to ask! &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

N1197L (talk) 13:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)== about poetry dispute ==

Sorry sir. Just went through the talk on the article. I added poetry due to my knowledge about the person attending national poetry events as chief guest and a poet. I am removing poetry and will wait until I find any reliable sources. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by N1197L (talk • contribs) 12:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Interesting things....
Since you appear to have consulted Mahitgar, a few days back, in certain case(s), you may wish to see Stewards' noticeboard.Regards:) ~ Winged Blades of Godric On leave 13:05, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I had seen it earlier as I was at meta checking on an unrelated issue, but I have no interaction with any of the editors involved except relating to some other editors on mr.wiki who have been disruptive on en (and both Mahitgar and Tiven advocated the same side on that). Besides, I've only ever gone to mr.wiki (albeit as a reader only) to check out contributions of the disruptive editors here, so I have no informed opinion on the case. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

About sock puppetry on article Ambarish Srivastava
Greetings sir. From the recent edits from you and other respected administrators, I came to conclusion that you might be mistaken about sock puppetry on article Ambarish Srivastava. I know Mr. Ambarish I am not editing anything under influence. Whatever I edited was according to my knowledge about him. I am a new user so I am not much familiar with options available in wikipedia. I noticed your discussion about COI Socks on the article. Hence I request you to let me verify my identity and clear the dispute regarding the article. Thanks Sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N1197L (talk • contribs) 13:38, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Communes of Luxembourg
Does this behaviour from several IPs at Talk:Communes of Luxembourg suggest a link with Tobias Conradi? AusLondonder (talk) 23:34, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It's him alright, I've semi protected the talk page for a week to tide over the RM. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  01:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Lord Aseem sock
Hello,

Here is his latest sock:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kamlesh4rmBhopal

Account is created a few days after he was indeffed. Note the obsession with Rani Padmini and Battle of the Hydaspes. Pushes the same exact POV.

Thanks, Khirurg (talk) 18:36, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I saw this on my watchlist and it could be him but I'm not doing a duck block just yet because of the "attitude" difference. I'd suggest filing a WP:SPI. ALso pinging . &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  01:07, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Don't see how it could quack any louder or any change in attitude. He is edit-warring same as before. He's probably figured out how to edit from a different IP address to get around the block. Khirurg (talk) 01:19, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Which perspectives are being pushed forward again that is same as Lord aseem on Rani Padmini or Battle of Hydaspes? My edits on Rani Padmini involved adding a new section with a basic outline of the original legend about her with multiple sources which was rejected as it had "personal synthesis" not backed by sources. On the other hand aseem's edits involved making Padmini a historic being or making it seem like she was.

The Battle of Hydaspes page, I have not removed anything added by mr.Khirurg or anybody else. I have read all the sources quickly and added elaboration where it factored in the context. My sources were Kaushik Roy, who's texts were speed-read by me. The other thing was the dating which I changed from BC to secular Common Era style as it would be suitable for a neutral site like Wikipedia. Also I made Paurava belligerent into Pauravan Kingdom as Paurava simply means descendant of Puru. That, and while I examined Khirug sir and aseem's edit war, I saw that the famous legend by Roman scholar Justin where Alexander challenged Porus to a due and lost was removed by Khirurg because no modern text relayed it again, so I found it again and restored it.

The problem it seems, is that Mr.Khirurg does not want to me to put my edits in, so he is using the excuse of me being a supposed Sock. I therefore even talked him and Dr.K. but nobody responded. Let's wait for SPI. But the page does not show my name registered. Kamlesh4rmBhopal (talk) 06:06, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Here, I have talked to him.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Khirurg Kamlesh4rmBhopal (talk) 06:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Sir, I am returning to my hostel. One or two of the IPs shared between aseem and me will get active probably (Unless I use another WIFI connection). Just giving headsup not to take that as any "evidence" of me and him being the same human beings. Kamlesh4rmBhopal (talk) 13:08, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Hafeez Akbar
Hi Why did you delete my page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafeez_Akbar It was a public figure page and was published after my hardwork of several weeks. please don't do this as first its not published by wikipedia several times. now if its published then you deleted this. please restore my page back — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.107.0.173 (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi user, why you deleted my page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafeez_Akbar It was published after severe hardwork as wikipedia rejected that article many times175.107.0.173 (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You received a note on your talk page, please read that before creating any more articles. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  01:26, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Promotional articles by Anatha Gulati

 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Futon_Shop&action=history
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rana_Yashwant&action=history (Went to Afd but got rejected because it was nominated by some other sock, still non-notable though)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overseas_Group&action=history
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UrbanSocial&action=history
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roof-hub&action=history

Like before, have found a few articles that were created by him through his socks and tagged with G5 for deletion. Capitals00 (talk) 08:51, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've left two untouched as one was declined and the other has some edits by other editors. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:06, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * UrbanSocial was declined, but now we consider this sockfarm to date back to 2013, as confirmed by CU as well. It is on Afd now Articles for deletion/UrbanSocial.
 * On Rana Yashwant, the other editors you are pointing out is also Anatha Gulati sock but CU probably overlooked. WP:DUCK evidence would be that he created usertalk page with '' like many other socks. And yes not just expanding the article but defending it on Afd, which was made by the blocked sock. Urinamenta can be blocked and article can be deleted. Capitals00 (talk) 09:48, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

About creating mandal articles
Sir, me and User:Vin09 have worked on creating a template mandal article for Indian mandals, such that we can create them with ease just by changing the values. Now an editor discussed with me that I’ve stolen the template from User:Vin09. Can you please help me with this situation. Since Vin09 was retired from Wikipedia, I can’t call him for help. You can have a look at archive discussion from both of our talk pages for our combined works. The discussion is going on User Talk:SuperHamster—IM3847 (talk) 15:30, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Please provide the links/diffs for these, I don't have the time to search for the template/discussions/affected articles. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Roughly half of the "template" IM3847 claims he created together with Vin09 was already in use by Vin09 before IM3847 created his account, so regardless of any discussion that might have taken place between them after that, the way he presents the above narrative is very misleading. It's also a complete and utter lie to say I accused him of "stealing" anything ( please take back the above lie about me): what I said was that he needs to provide proper attribution when using other Wikipedians' work, even if said other Wikipedians have already given their permission, and I never questioned whether Vin09 had given permission (actually, they've implicitly given their permission by publishing under GNU anyway -- I already explained all of this). I did question the appropriateness of presenting Vin09's work as his own as part of WP:WAM, since it screws over not only the original copyright holder of the text in question, but also the other WAM participants who are dilligently following the rules of the editathon and creating a large amount of new original content, but can't compete with someone who copy-pastes the same chunk of generic text (which by itself is more than 300 words) over and over again. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 05:51, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sir in the archive- corrections, Vinay asked me to just change Mandal name, area.... before creating the article, rather than creating article with entirely new template. You can go throughout archive to have a look at the way User:Vin09 trains me.
 * Articles like Atchampet mandal, Guntur district are just simply copy-pasted from Vinay article's, but later he improved them. It clearly implies he had no issue with me using his templates. Despite me and Vinay worked offwiki in creating a template articles for mandals and villages in Andhra Pradesh. - IM3847 (talk) 07:23, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to go through an entire archive to "find out". If you have specific diffs then let me know, otherwise, simply follow the advice provided by . &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:46, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As I said all the mandals articles created by me like Tadikonda mandal, Ganapavaram mandal, Medikonduru mandal etc, are edited by User:Vin09, although Iam copying his template article he's just helping me with minute mistakes in articles created by me, that implies he is accepted my work. As you said simply follow the advice provided by , he adviced me to give credit for User:Vin09, after his advise I gave credit to User:Vin09 for articles later created using his template article....., I created an entirely new article, later he just asked me to change mandal name and area before creating the article, rather than working on entirely new template, if he disagreed he would have been asked me to change the template.  -IM3847 (talk) 10:06, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That's not advice; that's a requirement.
 * As for your supposedly giving credit to him now: you recently created the article Guduru mandal, Krishna district, which again includes Vin09's text (assuming Vin09 wasn't doing the same thing you have been doing and copy-pasting other editors' text -- it doesn't seem like this is as intuitive for either of you as one would hope); while you did credit him in your edit summary here you also submitted it to WAM as your own work. You need to appreciate that you didn't create the article -- you subbed in some names and numbers into an article written by any number of other editors. While it is acceptable for Wikipedia attribution purposes simply to say you borrowed the template from this or that article (even without naming a specific editor), it is not cool for you to submit an article that includes absolutely no original prose as part of an editathon. You need to actually create new articles.
 * It's pretty clear your English is not perfect (and I teach English in Japanese junior high school, so I'm pretty tolerant of that in real life), so I don't understand why you are doing this on English Wikipedia when you would presumably be more capable of composing original prose on the Wikipedia version in whatever your native language is. I can only assume that the reason for that is that articles related to India (or some region of India) are excluded from WAM on that version (as is the case with Japanese Wikipedia), and if that's the case then what you are doing kinda goes against the whole point of WAM to begin with.
 * Anyway, I'm not sure if you can withdraw your previous WAM submissions by yourself, but a reasonable substitute would be to strike your comments on User:SuperHamster's talk page and ask him to autofail the articles.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 10:35, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sir, I'll continue to create articles on mandals but I'll not submit them(Copy-Pasted articles) to WAM and The only reason I'm editing en wiki is working on our native language Telugu is even difficult.—IM3847 (talk) 10:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

PLEASE CHANGE THE PROTECTION EXPIRY DATE
Please protect Samantha Ruth Prabhu page atleast for a period of 1 year because many vandalisms have taken place in the past and may take place in the future. At Present, the page is unprotected. Please do not ignore this request. Bollywood junction (talk) 12:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Braj Bhasha
Hi - SpacemanSpiff Eollywood has now been hi-jacked into another Braj Bhasha hidden article. This was by IP:2405:205:2213:1633:372D:226E:DB61:54DC which appears close to IP:2405:205:2114:4380:9651:250:8094:a72b, which Hi-jacked the Wollywood article - I'll let you decide which sock-drawer to file them in ! - Arjayay (talk) 10:29, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added both to my watchlist and will protect if they come back. Jio geolocates are often wrong but both IPs geolocate closer to Virajmishra than to the Jsc socks. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Precious four years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Please monitor and protect the Mangalore article from Vandalism
Hi SpacemanSpiff, Please monitor and protect the Mangalore article from Vandalism and Recentism. Many editors are trying to vandalize the Mangalore article. Please give protection to this article. It is a Featured Article, and hence please protect the Mangalore article from Vandalism. 103.246.43.1 (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I have it on my watchlist, but please take this up at WP:INB. I brought this issue up there once for other editors to consider, I'm not involved with the content there, but may be able to help as he responded to my post at INB earlier. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:05, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Protection of Rasgulla
I happened to notice on AIV that User:Ami.bangali 2ed tried reverting their move Rasgulla just before you did, but was stopped by the page move throttle filter. I haven't reviewed the rest of what happened to that page, but just mentioning in case that means that the page protection isn't needed. Κσυπ Cyp  11:44, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a long standing off-wiki campaign, the move is just one part of it, the main issue revolves around two groups (Odia and Bengali) claiming this to be their own, and there are at least four active accounts in the page history right now that are pushing one side of the POV. There was also a move request and this endorse of that close. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the reply, and never mind, then. Κσυπ Cyp  12:14, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

User:Padmalakshmisx
Although he is a bad editor, his intentions are good. So when his sockpuppet edits are made, please don't revert them. Or at least notify me when his edits are reverted so I can (partially) restore them. Not that I like him, but avoiding reverting good edits can lessen his chances of opening new accounts and making the same edits again. His latest account is. -- Kailash29792   (talk)  08:10, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * His bad edits to good edits ratio is too high, so that's not going to happen, and I'm not going to go through all his edits to see which ones are which, however if you wish to restore his edits, then you are free to do so. As for him not opening new accounts, every thing has been tried, so that's never going to happen, whatever you try. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:29, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Related to page of India
I updated population of india from 1.2 billion to 1.3 billion,being cited previously.so pls update that info.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jashan gill (talk • contribs) 07:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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Respectfully, Anomalocaris (talk) 07:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * , done, thanks. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  11:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Anomalocaris (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism on Rani Padmavati page
Recently, someone changed "Sinhala Kingdom" to "Kingdom of Polonnaruwa", which has no mention in original text. Please fix this mistake, Thank you. 117.192.192.162 (talk) 05:50, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You can discuss edits on the talk page, I'm not familiar with the content, I jsut semi protected it due to the amount of disruption. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  12:44, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Reg: Deletion of a wiki page
Dear Sir,

You have deleted one of the pages in Wiki. The page is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gauthamadas_Udipi. The deletion says there was some promotion. The doctor had this page for 17 years and he is not able to understand, where the promotion had happened. Is there some way to correct the error and get his page back? He said he tried reaching out to you on how to resolve the issue. Is there someway to get the page up and whatever reasons for deletion can be conveyed to him and for him to correct the error?

Thanks, Vijayalakshmi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.48.167 (talk) 09:56, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That page and every other one where his name was inserted was a brochure for him, clearly not what's allowed on an encyclopaeia. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  09:41, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Demographics of Tamil Nadu
Hi, can you keep an eye on the page? is constantly adding unsourced stuff. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Rohit Sardana
Can you please watch Rohit Sardana. Some months ago I had started this article but since couple of days few users are adding "controversies section" in a biased style. I do not have enough onwiki time nowadays, I hope you will watch this. Anoptimistix (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Gone fishing!
Will respond to queries etc in a couple of days when I access my regular account through my trusted devices. Cheers &mdash; Spacesock  Spiff  09:50, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Deeksha Center For Learning PU College
Hey SpacemanSpiff. Since you deleted and salted, has been created. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 22:06, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * deleted and accounts blocked. This is likely going to be a huge sock mess pretty soon, so some sort of COIN discussions on the two accounts I blocked related to this (one part of the farm and the other a separate advert one) may be beneficial. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:50, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

IndiaIsTheBest (talk) 15:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC) Tell me the reason why have you left such message on my Talk Page?
IndiaIsTheBest (talk) 15:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC) What article have i messed up? What are you talking about? What are you saying???

== IndiaIsTheBest (talk) 15:31, 28 November 2017 (UTC) Oh please mister it would be delightful for you and me both if you do a favour and mention that specific moment/edit you think is my agenda. ==

IndiaIsTheBest (talk) 15:31, 28 November 2017 (UTC) I'm gonna need more specific and reasonable explanation about which of my actions you thought can be considered as an "AGENDA" and left that very first particular comment/"Warning"????

Sock of indef blocked User:EchoUSA
Earlier this month, you blocked User:EchoUSA as WP:NOTHERE. This is the guy whose talk page, which was deleted at MfD, had a list of neo-Nazi organizations with their logos, which for the most part he had drawn himself (based on logos appearing on websites) and uploaded to Commons (most of which have now been deleted). Now we have another editor. User:GaiusoftheJulii, who started editing on 24 November (EchoUSA was blocked on 6 November), has made a number of edits to List of neo-Nazi organizations, and who uploaded the flag of the Antipodean Resistance , a neo-Nazi group. I've nominated the flag file for deletion as a copyright violation. Considering everything, this new account appears to me to be the same person, socking. Could you look into it? Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:59, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It could be possible but there seems to be some geographical difference so I'm not sure. Perhaps knows this as she's familiar with that area, alternately, an SPI would perhaps be best. I'm not familiar with this topic area at all. sorry I can't be of more help here. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:48, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Someone beat me to it, but an SPI has been filed. . Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Gokul Suresh (Actor)
Hello, Please check Articles for deletion/Gokul Suresh. A new article has been created recently. Please verify whether this one qualifies for G4. Thanks. Hitro  talk  18:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There's some significant difference (including the addition of 3 film roles) compared to what was at AfD (one completed role) so this doesn't qualify for G4, however, there appears to be some paid COI at work here and a discussion at COIN might be helpful. A linked SPI may be Sockpuppet investigations/S993. I see that you've already given the COI notice to the account. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:07, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. I will keep an eye on this user's future contributions. Regards Hitro   talk  08:50, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Train-the-Trainer 2018: Invitation to participate
Hello, it gives us great pleasure to inform that the Train-the-Trainer (TTT) 2018 programme organised by CIS-A2K is going to be held from 26–28 January 2018.


 * What is TTT?
 * Train the Trainer or TTT is a residential training program. The program attempts to groom leadership skills among the Indian Wikimedia community members. Earlier TTT have been conducted in 2013, 2015, 2016, and 2017.


 * Who should join?
 * An editor who is interested to conduct real-life and online Wiki-events such as outreach, workshop, GLAM, edit-a-thon, photowalk etc.
 * Any active Wikimedian contributing to any Indic language Wikimedia project is eligible to apply.
 * An editor must have 500+ edits.
 * Anyone who have already participated in an earlier iteration of TTT, can not apply.

Please see more about this program at: CIS-A2K/Events/Train the Trainer Program/2018. Please fill this form to show your interest to join. The last date of signing up is 7 December 2017. If you have any question, please let us know.

On behalf of Titodutta. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC)