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Hyperlapse
Hi there,

I undid your edit to hyperlapse. A link to a video named "hyper-lapse" by the person who supposedly first used the term does not prove the statement that this person first used it. What you need here is someone else saying about Dan Eckert that he first used the term hyperlapse. Sources by a person should usually not be used to in statements about that person. Hope that helps! Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi there, could you please respond to the suggestions above? Just trying to re-add something without any kind of discussion is not helpful. Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 18:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Zoeperkoe,

Thank you, now I understand. I will try to get more reliable sources, "(...) What you need here is someone else saying about Dan Eckert that he first used the term hyperlapse.(...)" Okay! Although Dan Eckert was the first one who named a video motion timelapse video "hyperlapse", I understand, that generally it´s not obvious, wether someone changes the name of a video afterwards.

Best regards, --spacetimetraveler


 * , Thanks for responding! It could well be that he first used the term to describe a hyperlapse as we understand it today. It's just that there doesn't seem to be a reliable source to prove it - and for Wikipedia, a link to a video named hyperlapse is unfortunately not enough. If there had been an interview with Dan Eckert in a well-known photography magazine or something like that, in which he stated that he invented the term or the technique, that would be different. But we just might have to accept the fact that the origin of the term remains unknown (on Wikipedia at least).


 * And this is the same reason that I put a "citation needed" on the stuff about b-Zoomi. His hyperlapse videos did get a lot of views, but Wikipedia needs some other magazine or newspaper or news item to state that he made hyperlapse popular. It is probably true what you wrote about him, but without a good reliable source, it unfortunately still doesn't belong on Wikipedia. For example, if you would want to write about recent developments in hyperlapse, it would be quite easy to find articles stating that people like Rob Whitworth have taken the concept of hyperlapse to a whole new level, and those articles could then be used as a source in Wikipedia. Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 11:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Zoeperkoe,

Thank you for your constructive answers. I added some more sources. Especially the interview where bzoomi talks with the inventor of lrtimelapse. In this interview, bzoomi claims, that "(...) as far as (he) knows, it was Dan Eckert,(...)" who first named a video "hyper-lapse". Dan Eckert did not tagg it with the term by the way, which is interesting and instructive. No doubt, there have been lots of further developments since that time, which we should include as soon as possible by the way, but it is obvious also, that since the term was given birth, filmakers and other entities "jumped" on it and by doing so, the term became more and more significant. And by that, this article became more and more embattled. The more it became a common word, the more people later claimed to be the inventor of the term. I hope you will agree with the edit, because: As long nobody will or can proof the opposite, it is written , that Dan Eckert was the inventor of the term. Does this make sense to you? First was the term, and then everything else followed, not vica versa.

Best regards, --spacetimetraveler

Hi Zoeperkoe,

I added some sentences on "development" Could you please look over and add some more?

Thanks in advance Best regards, --spacetimetraveler


 * Hi there, I've done a lot of rewriting on the article, and added sources where I could find them. I've deleted all the stuff for which I couldn't find sources (the section on Reggio, for example), and deleted a lot of technical stuff, as I think it didn't make the article more readable for the casual reader. It's a lot shorter now, but at least everything that's in there is now supported by an external, more or less reliable source. I'm interested to hear what you think of it! Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 12:57, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Zoeperkoe,

Thank You! Well done, indeed! The whole article became more and more "too long" You structured it well. I read all of your changes. Maybe readding some small lines, but not too much!

I am only not totally agreeing when you completely deleted the part about Behzumi´s Berlin Hyperlapse,  especially the citation of the TV Report from 2012. As it was particular "Berlin Hyperlapse" which gave the term "Hyperlapse"  an initial worldwide publicity and influenced the whole genre sustainably because of its exemplary nature and role model function. Additionally, until that release, this "moving timelapse technique" was more common under the term "motion timelapse" so "Berlin Hyperlapse"  stamped and popularized  or "coined" the term "hyperlapse" long before the then followed publications of all kinds. As it is also quoted in one of your suggested references:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/04/03/pacer_the_first_hyperlapse_shot_in_montreal_by_guy_roland_in_1995.html "During the late 1980s and early 1990s, filmmaker Guy Roland pioneered the technique on Super 8 mm film, and made a 1991 short film called Pace in Montreal, Quebec. But his 1995 follow-up Pacer (above) is lauded as the first true hyperlapse, though this term wasn’t coined until 2012. Roland shot the film on a Bolex 16 mm camera, but the original negative is gone."

and here in one of my previously added references:

https://www.rocketstock.com/blog/how-to-make-a-hyperlapse/ "The term gained popularity with the release of Berlin Hyper-Lapse from Shahab Gabriel Behzumi. Behzumi focused on featuring iconic landmarks like the Brandenburg Gate. Using a city’s landmark helped create an identity for the video. If you are shooting a hyperlapse, be sure to include some type of iconic feature in your film. Berlin Hyper-Lapse influenced filmmakers all over the world to travel around their own cities. It spawned a whole series of walk-through films, like Time of Rio from MOOV. This hyperlapse also includes video footage throughout it as well."

Could you please readd this though?

All kind regards Spacetimetraveler (talk) 10:01, 15 August 2017 (UTC) Spacetimetraveler