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Josh Barnett
Hi. Your edits to Josh Barnett were all wrong. The weight and nickname is as per the souce at the bottom of the infobox. The fight results are as per the source at the bottom of the infobox. Wrestling and the others are not proper nouns. You seem to think your edits are sourced but they aren't as they are not. Please don't edit without sourcing. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, I appreciate you reaching out. I know wrestling and football aren't proper nouns, because I didn't make the edit. I would've preferred if you reached out the first time so I could've told you it was by @2603:8090:1540:1531:1DB8:48AC:8F3C:4DF5, the weight was by @Frippinator, and the fight results were by @79.70.128.90. You could've gone back and reviewed like I did, instead of blaming me for being the last user to make edits, and grouping in legitimate sourced edits. The nickname was me fixing edits by @65.175.221.155, and he's been called that for a long time, eg.
 * https://us.ufcespanol.com/news/josh-barnett-warmaster-takes-cage-again
 * https://www.ufc.com.br/news/josh-barnett-i-show-fight
 * https://www.fite.tv/article/josh-barnetts-bloodsport/
 * https://www.foxsports.com/stories/ufc/josh-barnett-this-is-not-a-sport-this-is-entertainment
 * https://www.espn.com/columns/story?columnist=tesfatsion_master&id=6677582
 * https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/07/17/josh-barnett
 * https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/josh-barnett-the-babyfaced-assassin
 * Now that it's been cleared up, I'm going to re-add my legitimate sourced edits.
 * For the minor edits, thanks for letting me know. I'll learn from that, and I hope you learn from my feedback too. Spagooder (talk) 16:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * For the minor edits, thanks for letting me know. I'll learn from that, and I hope you learn from my feedback too. Spagooder (talk) 16:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The edits I reverted were explained. We only use the infobox source for nicknames, as is evidences throughout Wikipedia. This is longstanding consensus. You also made an unsourced change to weight. Your other edits aren't of suitable quality, so per BRD I suggest you make a case on the talk page. I will restore the stable version.NEDOCHAN (talk) 23:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * By the way, please don't write 'I didn't make the edits', as it's very easy to see that you did. The edits I refer to are here in this diff.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1152277426&oldid=1150596906&title=Josh_Barnett NEDOCHAN (talk) 23:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The original sources for those edits are here in these diffs, it seems like you overlooked them after I told you.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josh_Barnett&diff=prev&oldid=1146374953
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josh_Barnett&diff=prev&oldid=1147458163
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josh_Barnett&diff=prev&oldid=1149671196
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josh_Barnett&diff=prev&oldid=1149709497
 * I didn't realize those were there when I reverted, just like you didn't realize you grouped my legit edits with them when you reverted. I'm taking this as a learning experience, I hope you are too. Your first post wasn't a good explanation. For instance, please start with something more constructive than "Your edits were all wrong" and blaming a user for the mistakes of others. And as per BRD, you should've tried to refine edits before reverting. Spagooder (talk) 00:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, although I'd hope that our relative editing experience might lean towards your learning from me. NEDOCHAN (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize those were there when I reverted, just like you didn't realize you grouped my legit edits with them when you reverted. I'm taking this as a learning experience, I hope you are too. Your first post wasn't a good explanation. For instance, please start with something more constructive than "Your edits were all wrong" and blaming a user for the mistakes of others. And as per BRD, you should've tried to refine edits before reverting. Spagooder (talk) 00:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, although I'd hope that our relative editing experience might lean towards your learning from me. NEDOCHAN (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Marking edits as minor
Please stop marking all your edits as minor. A minor edit is one with which it's impossible to disagree, such as correcting a typo. Any addition of content of any kind shouldn't be marked as minor. NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:15, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

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If you have confirmed a change by reviewing the RT page, please change the "access date" in the citation. Otherwise, please revert your edit. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Done, I appreciate the reminder. Just some constructive criticism, since the power of WP is that anyone can edit and improve an article, you could have done it yourself instead of reverting. BRD even stipulates to revert "only if you cannot immediately refine it", which you easily could have. Spagooder (talk) 16:40, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the criticism, but anyone can revert an edit that is improperly sourced, as the one I reverted was. Sundayclose (talk) 17:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not following. The only issue with the citation was the access date, which plenty of other WP pages don't even have in their styles (see: Richard Montañez, subject of the movie). I really don't see why one could not have just done it themselves instead of reverting, but you did remind me to be mindful of it just in case. Spagooder (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

BrolyLegs
Hello, I saw that several hours ago you proposed BrolyLegs for deletion alongside another editor. Although I'm fine with people disagreeing about the notability of an article I created, my concern is with your rationale that he "rarely gets over 50 views/day" and "has a low count of subscribers/followers and even lower engagement." Please see WP:ATA before proposing to delete articles - specifically, WP:POPULARITY and WP:POPULARPAGE. If Wikipedia deleted articles based on its popularity or lack thereof, there would be a massive loss of valuable encyclopedic information. Notability should not be determined by popularity, but rather through an applicable guideline. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Bellator/Showtime
Can you please stop reverting that edit on the main Bellator page? It is official that they are off Showtime. You asked me to provide a link that stated that. I did just as you asked and then you turned around and played the "not good enough/failed verification" game. MMA Junkie is a legit, verified source and it clearly says on there this was their final event on the channel. Can you provide any sources that demonstrate they are continuing on Showtime? If not, then please stop with the constant vandalizing. Udar55 (talk) 16:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


 * It wasn't vandalism, it was about verifiability. You're right though, I originally opened that link on a tablet and it cut off the top part that had the info. Thanks for reaching out, my apologies. Spagooder (talk) 16:11, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Peter Thornley
Hi If you have any specfic issues regarding the text of this article that you feel read like an advertisement then please start a thread on the talkpage listing examples and we can reasonably discuss alternatives. In the meantime I have removed the "Ad" banner from this article as I frankly fail to see which material in it is "written like an advertisment".Romomusicfan (talk) 17:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Have myself started a thread on the article talk page,Romomusicfan (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey. Thanks for reaching out. I'll get to it when I have some time, I'm working on something else at the moment. Spagooder (talk) 00:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

SMALLFONT
Just a heads-up, we no-longer put instructors in smallfont, in infoboxes because of MOS:SMALLFONT. Otherwise, thanks for all your contributions to MMA-Wiki. You're doing a great job. Nswix (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey. Thanks for letting me know, and for the compliment. Spagooder (talk) 18:42, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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MMA related articles
Spagooder, Greetings. Since you have edited a number of pages of MMA related articles in Wikipedia, pls see the below info so you may understand how things work here.

MMA related articles - info

 * 1) Pls visit WikiProject Mixed martial arts and read through the MMA Wikipedia guidelines.
 * 2) When a bout is announced which stating "finalizing, in work, rumors, verbally agreed,  in the press, this means the bout is not official yet. Wait until it official before place it under the "Announced bouts" section of the event page.
 * 3) When a bout is announced in the press, editors put the match up in the  "Announced bouts" section (inline citation is needed)
 * 4) When UFC.com / its local web site (pls check the reference beneath the fight card table in the Wikipedia page), the editors would remove the bout in the "Announced bouts" and place it in the "fight card" section.
 * 5) When a fighter pulls from a fight (due to injury/or by UFC/ visa issues and etc), we placed the info in the "Background section" (inline citation needed) and remove the injured fighter name and put "TBD".
 * 6) When a injured fighter has been replaced, editor put the info in the background section (with inline citation). If the new match up has not been shown in the UFC.com fight card, then we will removed the match up from the fight card and place it back to "Announced section". If the match up already shown in the UFC.com then jut put the replacement fighter in the fight card section.
 * 7) When the event named has been announced (such as UFC Fight Night: dos Santos vs. Tuivasa) then we place the info in the background section (with inline citation). If UFC.com has shown the event names (Fight Night events or UFC on ESPN) such as  UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Medeiros or UFC on ESPN: Reyes vs. Weidman, then editor would move the article and article talk page name accordingly and not before, except the flagship event  such as UFC 187, UFC 242 and etc.
 * 8) No colour box in the fighter's page infobox  at event fight card page. No title eliminator in the fight card or body text in fighter page or event page. No (c) - champion on the event fight card unless the fighter is the current champion of the weight division.
 * 9) "method" in the fight table is as per Sherdog.com as per WP:MMA guideline and please do not interpret the method yourself even if the method is incorrect as Wikipedia is all about WP:verification and not the true.
 * 10) Info box as per Sherdog. No other nick names or else we would have many nicknames pop up every time there is a internet meme.
 * 11) Reach as per UFC.com as Sherdog dont have the info. Pls provide inline citation.
 * 12) Stand - need to provide inline citation. IF you can find source to support it, leave it blank
 * 13) Style - "The style parameter should only be used in MMA fighters that have participated professionally or in international competitions in other combat sports (i.e. boxing or kickboxing) and who are notable in said sports and deserve an article for their merits in these other sports (i.e. Antônio Rogério Nogueira, Alistair Overeem). It is suggested to MMA editors that they actively remove the style parameter in infoboxes of MMA fighters that do not meet these criteria." Leave style for modern mma fighter as they have to train several combat disciplines.
 * 14) No Flag icon on info box or fight table.
 * 15) Info could be obtain from Sherdog on Info box - need to support by sources such as teachers, belts, notable relatives, university, occupation outside fighting career and etc.

Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia  talk  19:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Snake Pit draft
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 * Thanks. I just meant that talk page comment as "I didn't get a notification and had to check the article manually to find out" — we should be getting the appropriate notifications now that we're in the same thread. Spagooder (talk) 05:52, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the heads up. I just copy-pasted the categories from the article. Is that appropriate or did I miss anything? Spagooder (talk) 19:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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