User talk:Sparkit/Archive 3

Kinetic
I'm looking it up right now in a book I have. A lot of interesting stuff. It's all surprisingly interrelated. Yes, Op art is said to simulate movement, or at least to create the illusion of movement. Interestingly, the term Op art was coined by a Kinetic artist, George Rickey! It is said that the first Kinetic sculpture was Marcel Duchamp's Bicycle Wheel of 1913. Anyway, Op art and Kinetic art (or sculpture) are separate things. I don't see any indication of any overlap. Bus stop 23:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Neat! I'd read that about Bicycle but hadn't added to any of the articles. I, too, think of only the actual moving stuff as kinetic, but because op art is sometimes referred to as kinetic some mention is warranted, but like I said on the kinetic art talk page, dunno if a whole section is needed. --sparkit TALK 12:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for helping in Painting
Thanks for helping out with the categories in the Painting article. If you have any info or more details that might help me when I deal with these sections, I'd love to hear of them. Artypants 07:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You're most welcome. Most of what I know about categories is described at Categorization, but please let me know if you have specific questions. --sparkit TALK 14:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

or you could ask me for it at www.talk.com

Sargent
Thank you for the thank you, and good work on John Singer. He would profit from further expansion of content (I'd like to flesh it out more one day), yet given the outline, headings, image links, and cites, he might merit a 'B' rating now. What do you think? JNW 21:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

PS--I always enjoy the rotating images on your user page. JNW 21:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I don't know if that Sargent works list is representative of his work, but it's a start. I'd like to include an image of one his landscapes, but I'm not sure which. Any suggestions? The article could use expansion for sure. Whether it is a "Class B", I don't know, as I've not studied the criteria and am not likely to. I'm more inclined to add to or copyedit articles than rate them. :)


 * I lifted that rotating image code from one of the project templates... just for fun. --sparkit TALK 03:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that most of the paintings on the list are prominent works, and include a good sampling of noteworthy portraits. Carnation, Lily, etc, On His Holidays and The Chess Game offer a limited window into his subject pictures (I became familiar with The Chess Game, one of his prime Orientalist subjects, a few years ago, when it was still owned by the Harvard Club of NYC, and I was visiting while painting a portrait commission for the club). That said, I am not sure that the list should attempt to represent him fully, out of concern that the lists tend to take on lives of their own. But yes, it does make sense to include a pure landscape or two: You can't go wrong with most any of the late Venetian watercolors, nor the Venetian interiors of the 1880s, like The Sulphur Match and Venetian Interior (Carnegie Museum of Art); Home Fields (Detroit Institute of Arts) is a fine and well-known oil; Oyster Gatherers at Cancale (Corcoran Gallery of Art) is not my favorite, but a famous early landscape; also, there are some really fine paintings done at the Simplon Pass in the Italian Alps, the most popular of which feature women and men lounging and painting at leisure, but my favorites done there are oils of water spilling through the rocky landscape, wonderful planes seen in blinding sunlight. But these are just suggestions which should in no way limit your search. Have fun and good luck, JNW 04:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I thought about how lists tend to grow before I made the works into a list. Hopefully this one will remain a representative sampling. Who owns The Chess Game now? --sparkit TALK 13:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

You can see from my last note how a list can grow: you asked about landscapes, and I went off about other subjects as well...the result of enthusiasm. And yes, I think you have made it a most representative sample. Good work.

I believe The Chess Game was sold to a private party, for an undisclosed but vigorous price. The HCNY still owns a batch of Sargent portraits. JNW 15:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Plastic paint medium
I see that you edited a lot onto this page, but the page seems vanity, related to the artist Josignacio. I mostly bring this up because there was a blast of Josignacio links onto the Abstract Expestionist article this morning, as well as art other pages throughout WP. I think we may propose it for deletion, as it has no external sources. --Knulclunk 14:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Notability is definitely not established in the article. --sparkit TALK 15:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

History of Painting
What do you think about sub-dividing history of painting into 2 articles - history of western painting and history of eastern painting? Modernist 04:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Western painting surely had enough content to warrant an article of it's own. Perhaps Eastern painting, too. --sparkit TALK 13:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Western painting
I created a new page Western painting, and I also included the sections on Africa, Islam and East Asia. Please let me know your thoughts about either leaving History of painting alone, or turning it into an article Eastern painting. Modernist 18:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's looking good! My opinion is that the history of painting article would work best with brief overview sections of Western art, Eastern art, etc. with links to the more in-depth articles. ... or maybe the overviews could be in the painting article, ... ugh, I'm can't to focus on this right now. --sparkit TALK 03:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict
Please weigh in on a building edit conflict at Western painting, thanks Modernist 14:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for taking on the onerous task of filling in the fair-use rationales for all those Western painting images.--Ethicoaestheticist 23:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * My ummmmmm pleasure :), as a cut-and-paste goddess it's the least I can do. --sparkit TALK 23:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Again, thanks! --Knulclunk 00:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help on Western painting. Modernist 10:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, thank you for writing most of the content! The "gallery problem" still mystifies me. --sparkit TALK 12:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

a question
Sorry to trouble you again, I noticed today that User:Minderbinder reported Western painting and History painting here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyde/Cleaned_up_lists I'm not familiar with all this, I'm not sure what will happen, do you know this process? I hope that the very hard work that we've done isn't in vain Modernist 18:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know what to make of that. Best I can tell there's an effort to clean up nonfree image usage, but I've not come across a specific project page that details the process, if indeed there is a process. --sparkit TALK 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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Mondrian image
Hello, Sparkit. You uploaded (many moons ago) Image:MondriaanPiet.gif. I thought I'd alert you that the source you quoted for the image seems to have disappeared, so it's impossible to verify the copyright status of the image: images on Wikipedia must have a valid source, I believe. I put on it for that reason. I came across the image on the Piet Mondrian article, and was put on alert because the non-free art license definitely doesn't allow for its use on articles about the image's subject, but only articles about the image itself or, perhaps, its author. Best wishes, RobertG &#9836; talk 08:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess we're SOL about that image then. The URL worked when I uploaded the file. The site has apparently changed as sites do, and I don't find it there now. --sparkit TALK 03:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Matisse_-_Green_Line.jpeg
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Long time
Hi Sparkit. Miss your contributions. Hope you are well. Best wishes, JNW 04:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I miss you too, I hope you are well, are you ok? Modernist 22:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You all are sweet! I'm fine. In June I moved from Seattle to Leavenworth, Washington to do design and layout at the weekly newspapers here. In Sept. and Oct. we do one special section after another which kept me extremely busy (see some of the covers on my blog, http://www.makinitupasigo.com/blog). I'm also living in a rural area without broadband (gasp), and around the end of Sept. my phone line went goofy and I can no longer connect to my dialup ISP, and I've not yet contacted Verizon to get that fixed. So, basically I'm more involved right now with print publishing than web publishing, and I just a few weeks ago got my studio area set up at home.--sparkit TALK 18:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * So glad to hear from you! Best of luck on your print endeavors, JNW 21:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to hear from you too, all the best, and looking forward to when you return. Modernist 03:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Transgressive artists
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smith
In the article Smith (metalwork), you wrote "The word smith is cognate with the somewhat archaic English (Germanic) word, "smite", meaning "to hit" or "to strike". Originally, smiths practiced their crafts by forming metal with hammer blows. In this sense, the English word predates the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain."

I don't see how this can be true. Didn't Germanic languages come to Britain only with the Anglo-Saxons? Was it not a Gaelic speaking place before that? If that's true, then the use of the Germanic word can't possibly predate the arrival of the Germanic peoples to Britain. I mean, there may have been a Germanic word in lower Saxony which predated the English use, but that's not an English word. English words can't predate the English language.

I'm going to delete the sentence, but if I'm misunderstanding, please do set me straight. -lethe talk [ +] 21:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Mondrian art picture
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CfD nomination of Category:Works by artist
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Sweet Sticker
Heya Sparky! Good to see you as well. I may have a question for you a little later! That's one sweet sticker! Thanks! ;-) Atuuschaaw (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, here comes that question! ;-) Go to Mikael Santana's page and tell me what I need to change, correct, delete, provide! LOL He has the original articles from Memphis Commercial Appeal, Blues Reviews, etc. Just have to get them scanned or whatever it takes eh? I'm so glad you saw me on here! Thanks for the welcome Sister! ;-) Atuuschaaw (talk) 19:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia like to have materials that uses those sorts of sources as reference - just copy/pasting the material is a copyright violation. (Rules here are much stricter than WWR.) So, write something based on those materials using the materials as reference. We can't even quote Mikael unless it's something he said in something already published. Hmmmmm. But I bet we could quote his WWR page... LOL... I'll give the page a deeper looksee later. --sparkit TALK 19:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

WWR userbox "Wheathead" category
Hey Sparx --- the people you meet here. :-) I added the WWR userbox but was wondering if it was possible to add another category something like Category:Wheathead that would allow us all to click and see who else is a WWR user?  I don't know Wikipedia's geist over creating categories willy-nilly so I didn't just do it.  Whatcha think?  Jimkloss (talk) 13:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, we can do that. I dunno all the Wikipedian categorization rules. So, being bold I just did it and we'll see how it shakes out. Wikipedians interested in Whole Wheat Radio. All three of us are there. :) --sparkit TALK 16:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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