User talk:Spasemunki/Archive 1

Thanks for the feedback
Just wanted to thank u for the feedback! -)

Jupiter
« Jupiter in fiction and film - 'home' of the Flying polyps? ». Yes, indeed. Thanks for catching my slip. Urhixidur 20:32, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

The Buddha and His Dhamma Dr. Ambedkar
Agree with the change. But would like to mention that the Author has set out clearly in the introduction that "The Buddha and His Dhamma" is a compilation and assembly plant. He claims no originality of the text. I request you to follow the link to the book and read beyond the 'Introduction'. I am sure you will read it to the end. Regarding Babasaheb Ambedkar; There can hardly be a greater authority on Buddhism. Every verse of "The Buddha and His Dhamma" has been properly referenced to the Pali Canon in another book by Mr. Vasant Moon who was responsible for typecasting and publishing Dr Ambedkars works after his death. Its not available online but an extract and pictures of few pages can be viewed on Columbia.edu

Page Tripitaka
Your edits are reasonable. But one link seems better to restore:WWW Database of Chinese Buddhist texts. The title may be misleading that the site is in fact an English database of the index of some important East Asian tripitakas. That site is full written in English, and would be helpful for someone with little knowledge of Chinese characters to use to study more about the East Asian Tripitakas, which is very different from the Pali Tripitakas and has their importance. For the dead links we may better next time use the Web Archive cache than to delete them if they are good.

Wow you really don't know
Buddhism is misunderstood in the West as a philosophy, with associated practices. It is not. It is a religion, where people go to war for images of Buddha. In the West, killing people for an image of Buddha may seem counter to their beliefs, in Asia it makes perfect sense. So does asking Buddha to make them rich. In Asia, Buddha is a God who can make them rich or lucky, thats why they love him, not because of his enlightenment. Case in point, Cambodia and Thailand's 2008 spat, Thailand and Laos war over the Emerald Buddha in 1779. They see temples and religious objects as good luck, and will KILL to get them. These are real Buddhists, sorry for saying this but its true. People in the West don't know much about Buddhism.

I live in Thailand for 10 years, sorry to say this but Burma fought Thailand over Buddhist religious paraphenalia, Thailand fought Laos, Cambodia is today fighting Thailand, it is been going on for centuries, and still exists today. This is an undeniable fact. Read up on history.

Controlling our biases
Hello Collin,

Great pleasure to make your acquaintance. I did a brief survey of your past edits and it would not take a great amount of analysis and intuition to sense that you have a strong bias in favor of Buddhism, or rather the version of Buddhism that you may have learnt. I hope I am wrong about this. There is nothing wrong with having biases. We all have our own.

But let us try to keep them check while we edit the articles. While editing lets us make sure that we do not suppress the opposite viewpoints and do not use subjective criteria to regard one source more authoritative and reputable than other.

The Hinduism and Buddhism article the way it is presently edited shows a clear lack of neutrality, which has gone unnoticed and uncontested largely. Let us work to correct it in small increments.

I warmly note and acknowlege the fact that despite having an obvious bias you had the courtesy to start a discussion before doing the edit. As much as possible, let us try to keep it this way in coming days too. I have struggled to receve this courtesy from the other editor Mitsube in the last couple of days. So thank you very much for it.

Regards--Satyashodak (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * So you think this section should be cut altogether? Mitsube (talk) 20:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Request
Hi, I m interested in Theravada and began the article Twelve Nidanas based on the Visuddhimagga. Would you take a look at it ? Thks. pyl 22:07, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'm actually just starting to read the VM once again.  Hopefully I'll get a chance to take a look this week. --Clay Collier 05:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * thanks for your help : This editing trick is marvellous : ) After a long break i have some time. More time and more work to do on Twelve Nidanas as i did not exactly realized what is implyed : the Buddhaghosa's catagories... pyl 5 July 2005 16:00 (UTC)

Oi
I left some comments on Talk:Abhidhamma. By the way, if you get a chance, could you take a very quick look at the new Phra Bhudhacharn(Toh)Promrangsi page that some guy made? Obviously, the page needs a lot of cleanup to convert it into English, and I can handle that, but the thing is that I can't find anything about this guy on-line. I thought that, with your knowledge of Thai Buddhism, you might be able to advise on a) whether this monk is actually a real historical person deserving of an encyclopedia article; and b) what title the article should be moved to, since it clearly can't stay where it is with the parenthetical "Toh". Thanks, - Nat Krause 10:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Earth Changes
Hello Clay! I can only thank you. I really didn´t know what to do with that article, I just thought that something that people keep talking about should be explained in an encyclopedia - as a social phenomenon, at least. Thanks for your effort. Best, Subramanian talk 23:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Thailand stub edit
That was the existing text and I didn't bother checking its validity when I revised the category so that it would be a child of the newly created. It didn't help that was not in  as it should have already been. I've amended the text and made certain that is in. Caerwine 23:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Buddhism Fix
You're welcome Scifiintel 01:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you very much for your support. I appreciate it. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 12:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Buddhism - Vegetarian Fix
Thanks for the work on the cleanup. It looks a lot better! Csbodine 01:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Merger?
Hi, you seem to know a lot about Buddhism, I am wondering if Theragatha and Theragatha are two different texts in the Khuddaka Nikaya or whether they can be merged? The write-ups seem to be remarkably alike. Regards, ImpuMozhi 17:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the clarification. I have removed the merger-proposal notices. All the best for your future contributions to WP! ImpuMozhi 21:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Drepung monks
Wow, I had no idea that Tibetan monks moved around while debating. I figured it was a dance since (for one thing, that picture had been captioned with "dancing" by someone else sometime in the past) I have once seen a photograph of something called "lama dance", so I figured this was that. If you think it's a debate, that's probably right. To hedge our bets, we might just say, "These are monks" rather than "These are monks debating/dancing." To be honest, I never really liked that photograph very much: it seems to raise the question, "What the heck are those guys doing?", and, if one doesn't already know what a lama dance or Tibetan debate or whatever looks like, this photo doesn't seem to give a very clear idea. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 06:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Sangha/Buddhist monasticism
Clay, I wonder if you could offer your opinion on Talk:Sangha about what the relationship between that page and Buddhist monasticism (as well as other pages like bhikkhu and samanera) should be. I'm not sure what to do with them. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 09:35, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

request
Hello. I`ve got one request for you. I collect words in other languages and now I`m looking for word "sugar" in various languages. I have this word in 330 languages but I can`t find a Pali dictionary. So can you write me what`s "sugar" in Pali language? That`s very important for me! Thank you very much. Szoltys TALK


 * Thank you very much for your translation. But can you write me what`s "sugar" in Pali language, but in original script. Regards. Szoltys TALK


 * Sorry for intruding, Spasemunki!
 * Szoltys, there is no "original" script for Pali, the closest would be Sinhala script, because if I am not mistaken the largest part of Pali literature was written (in Sri Lanka) in that script.
 * I can offer you a word for "(granulated) sugar" in Pali, sakkhāra (that's the common indological transcription/romanization) or in Sinhala script සක්ඛාර. Cheers, Krankman 12:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Help (Tamil)
Hey Spasemunki,

I'd like to ask you to take a look at something. I'm pretty desperate right now. I think it's not your subject, but the it might be in your direction; if you look at the discussion here (it's mainly about the difference between "inherited" and "borrowed" lexicon, applicable to any language), you might be able to form an opinion.

If you know some other qualified wikipedians, I'd be glad if you could point this page out to them. Thanks, Krankman 14:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi!
Hi Clay!

I've just added my name to the list at the Buddhism Portal. I'd like to get involved, creating, editing, whatever needs doing! If there's anything you think I could help with, please let me know, either on my talk page or by email (user dot rentwa at googlemail dot com). Rentwa 22:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Maitreya buddha
i'm sorry if i sound hostile, but the removal of 'some' is essential to the belief. there are no qualifiers - all three branches of buddhism agree with this. pls let me know exactly which buddhists deny the doctrine of maitreya, otherwise i will revert in a day. Mandel
 * you are stating some so-called 'buddhists' follow a creed of buddhist thoughts, but you contradict yourself ('Buddhism has typically been more about what you do than what you believe' - in buddhism, thought is almost inseparable from action, or we might as well be rocks or non-sentient beings.). if you want to define that loosely, everybody could and might be a buddhist, a christian or a moslem.  is this helpful in an encyclopedia.  pls note that Stephen Batchelor does not, and no longer, refers to himself as a buddhist, since he is rejecting some of the clear doctrines of gautama.  a lot of christians respect buddha's ethical system, but unless you profess a faith without contradicting the belief of what the buddha preached, it is difficult to call yourself an adherent.  belief in samsara is central to why he preached - you dont cut, delete and rewrite tracts of dh lawrence and then still call it his novel. Mandel 10:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Samadhi
Hi Spasemunki- Noticed you removed the link to my account of a Nirvikalpa Samadhi and would appreciate your letting me know why you decided it was not a contribution for perspective on the subject. Compared to Yogananda's account in the wiki article it had considerably more archetypal features described in the literature of the dharma traditions. Does the fact that it was not triggered by virture of a religious practice devalue it as an example of the Advaitic experience in your opinion? Mayagaia 23:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Confusing Theravada with Buddhism
I was wondering why you confuse theravada (or even mahayana~ regardless) with Buddhism? Theravada especially so, is materialism, it admits to only 6 things, the 5 khandhas and avijja.

[The Advaita tradition in Indian Philosophy, Chandradhar Sharma  Motilal publishers ISBN 812081312X  1996] “The Theravada  schools missed the Buddha’s advaitavada and elaborated a metaphysics of radical pluralism. The inner contradictions in their metaphysics led to the rise of Mahayana” page: 3

“The Theravada interpretation of Buddha’s silence on the avyaakrta (inexpressible questions; i.e. is, is not, both, neither) questions is in accordance with its view of radical pluralism. According to the Theravada the Buddha advocated the theory of elements and denied the ultimate reality of souls and God (Brahman/Absolute)”page: 21

“The Abhidhamma treatises of the Pali canon, though called ‘the word of the Buddha’ (buddhavacana) are really the Theravada interpretation that misses the deeper truth in the Buddha’s teachings” page:16

“Theravada reduces the self to a series of fleeting mental states which are taken as real…Theravada  rejects the eternal (empirical) ego but (ignorantly) glorifies the uchchheda-drsti (nihilistic view) by accepting the reality of mental states.” page: 26-27

“Even Theravada which ignored the absolutism of the Buddha and elaborated a system of radical pluralism and which was emphatic in denying the Self, admitted Nirvana as an eternal positive reality, calm and blissful. But Hinayana degraded Nirvana to the level of an eternal substance (asamskrta dharma) set over and above the worldly objects (samskrta dharmas) in which there was cessation of misery. This (view) was corrected by Mahayana which revived the absolutism of the Buddha and treated Nirvana as the transcendental Absolute at once immanent in the phenomena, the ‘dharmata’ of all dharmas” page: 29

“Even if, as some scholars do, the word atta (atman) in attadipa (light of Soul) is interpreted as meaning just ‘oneself’ without any reference to an ontological reality called “Self” and the phrase ‘attadipa’ is taken to mean ‘you yourself are your light’, it has to be admitted that the Buddha is asking his disciples to seek light within and not outside. Now, if there is no true “Self/Atman”, then who is to seek the light and where? And if all objects, as the Buddha says, are perishable (anicca) and miserable (dukkha) and the light is to be sought only in the subject, then the reality of the transcendent subject is clearly implied in the passage” page: 30

“It is incorrect to hold that the Buddha starts with a spirit of opposition to the Upanishads and initiates a new tradition of anatmavada (no-Soul-ism) against the Upanishads tradition of atmavada. Anatmavada is nirahankara-nirmamavada, the removal of the false notion of the (ego) ‘I’ and the ‘mine’, which the Upanishadic seers themselves unmistakably voice and which all systems of Indian philosophy accept.” page: 31

“Theravada (Sarvastivada), due to an imperfect understanding of the teachings, forgot the Absolutism of the Buddha and created a metaphysics of radical pluralism in the form of the theory of momentary elements in their Abhidhamma treatises and commentaries” page: 35 Attasarana

--Attasarana

More Regarding Samadhi Link
Hi Spasemunki- Thanks for your thoughtful, detailed response to my inquiry about your removing my link to> http://geocities.com/maya-gaia/mysticalexp.html.

What follows is my final appeal to you to reconsider including my link in the Samadhi article either as 'external' or as a citation in the sentence in the Analogous concept section: "Such episodes occur spontaneously and appear to be triggered by physically or emotionally charged peak experiences such as in runner's high or orgasmic ecstasy, however even mundane activities such as reveling in a sunset, dancing or a hard day's work have, in rare instances, induced the entire range of Samadhi- from Laja to Nirvikalpa." The reference for citation would read: Fisher, Ed. "First-person account of non-dual samadhi", Maya-Gaia, 1998. Retrieved on February 24, 2007.

Alternatively the title of the citation could read: "First-person account of non-dual transcendence." The following is my argument that the link would point to information symmetrical to the article's subject.

http://www.dabase.net/cambell.htm Even all the [Universal] Great Statements and Myths Proclaim (whether implicitly or explicitly) that faith must become ecstatic (or self-transcending) practice, and practice (or ecstasy) must Realize Samadhi, for, apart from Samadhi (or direct Realization of God, or the Absolute), body, mind, and world are the incarnations of "difference", illusion, and bondage. Therefore, faith is not an end in itself, or an excuse for the egoic life. Faith is, properly, only the beginning of the Way of faith, ecstasy, and (Ultimately, Perfect) Samadhi.

http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/psych_model/psych_model3.cfm/ wilber_psychological integral model part 3 of 10

Ken Wilber: On the Awakening [samadhi] Experience- It would be based on what seem to be universal human capacities to interface with the Divine. Most of the great wisdom traditions agree that:

1. Spirit, by whatever name, exists.

2. Spirit, although existing "out there," is found "in here," or revealed within to the open heart and mind.

The Sanskrit term samadhi has become so familiar that all languages use it generically to describe an open, transcendent state of consciousness in which spirit is revealed. It is used both in Vedic and all the other dharmic religions and mystical traditions like Sufism and in the modern vocabulary of transpersonal psychology, consciousness science and integral spirituality in reference to all stages of mystical transcendence and is commonly used synonymously for satori, kensho, nirvana, moshka, gnosis, entasis, stasis, enstasy, transcendence, awakening, realization, enlightenment and more- all in reference to various stages of mystical transcendence. The consensus in the Vedic traditions for defining the ultimate state of awareness of spirit is Nirvikalpa Samadhi which is the model for a generic concept of ultimate non-dual experience with spirit. Although the dharmic traditions offer the most comprehensive descriptions of what is perceived as a hierarchy of samadhic states, there is such historic conflict over their distinction, causation, anatomy and significance that it would be justified to characterize samadhi as a divine enigma.

Since all the dharmic traditions proclaim that realization is available to all (and some say to all sentient beings down through to single celled organisms) this means not only Vedantans and Buddhist- not only those of other faiths- but All! So to claim that an account of transcendent awareness of spirit that has virtually all the qualities of Nirvikalpa Samadhi has no epistemological (or encyclopedic) validity because it did not arise from a particular belief or practice seems patently unjustified.

In perspective, the "cause" of my experience is thoroughly consistent with Vedic and Buddhist tradition in that I had attained a state of absolute desirelessness- albeit not through meditative practice or bhakti but via ecstatic orgasm- which is consistent with an integral view of some Tantra traditions.

It wasn't clear that you had actually read the account that I had linked to the article. If so, I wondered if you are able to provide a citation for a description of any non-dual transcendent experience that contains more of the character, content and context of Nirvikalpa Samadhi than my account? (I've already expressed my skepticism regarding the Samadhi article using Yogananda's account as an example of the Advaitic experience since- although eloquent and poetic- it is essentially a stream of ambiguous metaphors attempting to convey a perception of forms and qualities of light, contributing little to further an understanding of the experience.)

I'll appreciate learning whatever further thoughts you have on this issue. Mayagaia 19:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Udana
Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot to include the notes section, so the note was visible only on the edit page, not the main page. Peter jackson 11:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

"Papayana"
Thank you very much, Clay, for putting a request for references on the "Papayana" entry. I'm worried about this article (and have suggested, on its Discussion Page, that it possibly be deleted), as none of the many books and sutras that I have read relating to Buddhism, nor any of my Buddhist friends, mention or are familiar with this term. That does not mean that it is wrong, of course: we could all be simply ignorant! I have no objection to this article remaining if it can be verified, as it is a very interesting piece to me (being totally new information). But I do think we need to get at least one scholarly or religious/commentarial reference to "Papayana" before we can allow this page to stand. Do you tend to agree with me? Thanks again for your very valuable help in general, Clay. Cheers! From Tony. TonyMPNS 19:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hallo again, Clay. I have to let you know that I've proposed the "papayana" article for deletion, as it simply does not present any hard evidence of the significant existence of this term within Buddhism. As you are the only other person on this Discussion Page who seems interested in the matter, it is my duty (under Wiki rules) to let you know of the deletion proposal. Let's see what happens next (probably nothing!). All best wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 11:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Truffle oil
I am adding the reference to the New York Times article into the article on Tuber (genus).--Larrybob 17:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

beta testing
Aha! thanks for clearing that up.--Ioshus (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

re: Sandhinirmocana Sutra
Thanks. Zero sharp 16:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Anger generation
I've removed your PROD from Anger generation, since there was no given reason for the deletion. This removal wasn't to contest the PROD - feel free to place a new PROD tag with a reason for deletion. Od Mishehu 11:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Answer
I have answered your question about the spelling of Milefu on the Maitreya talk page.(Ghostexorcist 14:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC))

Long overdue kudos to you!
Hi Clay - I want to thank you for your kind support on the new idea on Talk:Pre-sectarian Buddhism. Also, perhaps more importantly, I've long been meaning to commend you for your solution on Talk:Buddhism -- well done! Seems to have effectively addressed the various concerns, adhered to the facts & won the community's acceptance. Additionally, I've come across on occasion some of your articles -- such as the one on Makkhali Gosala -- which I find so interesting and for which I am grateful. It's as if you leave sumptuous breadcrumbs of your knowledge for others on parallel paths to find. So, long overdue, thanks for all your excellent work! Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 16:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Comer
Hi, I think we need a bibliography added to Douglas Comer, especially some titles of his books. More biographical details like when he was born would be good too. Do you have some time to help? NerdyNSK 20:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank for your edit in Buddhism by country,you show how is the "Triple religion" which is heavy influenced in culture,society and life of Chinese people and Vietnamese people!

But do you think could I add article of Vinegar tasters.I see your newest edit was OK,that's COOL!

Thank so much!Best wishes! Angelo De La Paz 08:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

About Buddhist numbers in Communist countries!
You said the religious numbers in Communist countries is very hard to estimate but it was true for China,Vietnam and North Korea.But in Laos and Cambodia is very certain although those places are Communist (Laos only,Cambodia is a kingdom) but in both of these countries,Buddhism is still national religion and over 90% population is Theravada Buddhists.Communism don't hate Buddhism,they hate Monotheistic religions (the most is Christianity which is connected with Capitalism).I know that because I was born in Vietnam and lived here for 15 years! Angelo De La Paz 08:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Atheism and Buddhism
I made a new suggestion to replace the sentence in the intro to Atheism. Please have a look at the Atheism talkpage. Greetings, Sacca 11:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Buddhism and Hinduism
I'm going to remove all the anon's additions when you're done editing. Please let me know when that is. Arrow740 05:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello,

I was doing some reading this morning after reading your comment yesterday, maybe you could use the following quotes in the Buddhism-Hinduism article? I myself will not get involved in the actual discussion and editing though, but am happy to give you these quotes, which show something of the current hindu views on Buddha and Buddhism, and the origina of the efforts to incorporate Buddhism into Brahmanism/Hinduism. All the best Greetings, Sacca 06:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Template:GR
I have responded here. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 15:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Renaming Buddha article vote
Hi Clay - I was hoping that, as you are one who contributed critically to the discussion at Talk:Gautama Buddha, you'd be inclined to vote at Talk:Buddha for a new name for the Buddha article. I think the greater the number of people who participate in this vote, the more likely any consequent move will stick. Whether you get a chance to vote or not, I once again want to thank you for your significant contribution to the original discussion. I hope you are doing well, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 04:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much, Clay. With metta, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 18:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Larry and I gathered many more facts on talk:Buddha (general), and we feel it is time to vote again. Both Larry and I now favor "Buddhahood", which was your choice in the first place, but we feel it would be better to alert all voters, because we want this to be final. &mdash; Sebastian 05:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Pakistanphobia
I noticed you participated in the Articles for deletion/Anti-Pakistani sentiment. The article Anti-Pakistani sentiment was eventually moved to Pakistanphobia. Now Pakistanphobia has been nominated for deletion. I thought you might be interested in participating in the AfD debate at Articles for deletion/Pakistanphobia. Feel free to come by and contribute your thoughts.Bless sins (talk) 05:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I want to hear your opinions!
Dear Spasemunki!

First, I wantto thanks for your helps in the past. I know that you are a notable member of WikiProjectBudhism and I am highly appreciate your contributions. In last days, in Religion in China has had controversies between me and Saimdusan (strong anti-Buddhism and Chinese religions). Please give us your opinions and let people know more about the truth of Asian culture. It's really needed!Thank you so much!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Religion_in_China#The_heavy_influence_of_Buddhism_-_Chinese_religions_among_various_East_Asian_civilizations

Thank you so much! Good luck

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 12:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!
Oh, thank you so much Spasemunki! I don't know how to thank you! I think this video clip could help you relax...I am proud of Chinese culture! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHmSdpjEIk Thank you again! Best wishes to you!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 22:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Petavatthu
The link to Tetzel is based on similarity of ideas. Peter jackson (talk) 10:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Buddhism in the United Kingdom
Angelo asked for you to be contacted about this. Peter jackson (talk) 10:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 05:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry Spasemunki because I've bothered you. So you don't need to explain again and I will do it by myself! Be happy don't worry! Thank you! Good luck!

Political campaigning in Wikipedia
When political activists attempt to use Wikipedia as a tool in their campaigning, users as a rule should avoid them at all costs. Sensitive politically-filled messages, especially those which have racist and violent undertones and link to websites outside Wikipedia, should be treated the same as legal threats and intentional leak of personal information - to be removed immediately. Of course, it is not my duty or right to insist on removing a comment on your talk page. I simply did it out of good will - it is completely your right if you wish to let it remain there, but at the risk of associating yourself with political activists outside Wikipedia. Herunar (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

History of Tibet
Someone has proposed editing the History of Tibet article up to Good Article status. However, so far he has only invited Chinese authors to assist. You've been interested in the Invasion of Tibet article so your assistance would be warmly appreciated. Longchenpa (talk) 03:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Robinson et al
Your subpage listing seems to imply you may have access to this book, which I haven't. I'm interested in the change of title, questions like


 * Do they explain why &/or in what sense they consider Buddhism more than one religion?
 * Do they call it something else, eg a family of religions?
 * Do they say what other scholars think of the point?
 * Do they say how many religions they think it is, & what they are?

Perhaps you'd like to have a look at Talk:Buddhism/Revised & see whether you can add any useful sourced material. Peter jackson (talk) 10:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. That's very useful. Peter jackson (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

On the 3rd point, I wasn't thinking about names so much as about numbers. One serious problem we have here is that scholars very often ignore each other's opinions, which makes it very hard for us to find out what the general opinion is. WP:RS says any statements that all or most say such-&-such must be backed from RSs. Peter jackson (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It's interesting to see how the criteria would apply to Christianity. The Mormons would count as a distinct religion on all 4 points. Many (other) Christians would agree. Catholics & Protestants differ on 1, 2 & 4, agreeing only on 3. Therefore, if they want to say Christianity is 1 religion, they must be requiring all 4 criteria to be satisfied.

Therefore, if they want to say Mahayana is 2 religions, they must distinguish between East Asian & Tibetan on criterion 3. I'm not sure how they might be thinking of that. For example, the disagreement on the nature of ultimate reality is between different Tibetans, some of whom agree with the East Asians. So is it the nature & place of Buddhahood? See User:Peter jackson for some scattered facts & thoughts on this topic.

I should say that of course you're welcome to post queries that might be answered from the very large collection of sources I have access to (for the foreseeable future). Peter jackson (talk) 10:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Alms
Thank you for the detailed answer. That would be great help to describe the practice on the article of Korean temple cuisine.:)--Caspian blue (talk) 11:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks
I found many sources to address the less-than-well-sourced statements at Abhidhamma Pitaka. It was fun. Thanks for your involvement, and please check it out again. Greetings, Sacca 16:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Request For Rollback
Hiya. I've fulfilled your request for rollback. Please review WP:RBK or ask me if you need any help with the tool. Pedro : Chat  22:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Buddhism changes
I am not simply talking about bowing and chanting or meditation. Those are Buddhist practices. I am talking about stampedes, worshipping money, belief in magic, superstitions, and even war. Western people don't understand these things, even Buddhists from the West. Below is an explanation:

Both branches Mahayana and Theravada have spread as philosophies and practice into Europe and the Americas, aside from the Asians who have moved there, Buddhism in the West is not a complete religion with idolatry, magic, and heavily steeped in superstition, luck, and money (fortune) as is the case in Asia. As such, self proclaimed Buddhists in the West are often confused when Asian Buddhists' blind devotion seems counter to their philosophies, as when religious trinkets such as jatukam caused deadly stampedes, or when Buddhist nations wage war over temples, or when devout Asian Buddhists pray for money when in a temple. Due to the lack of cultural understanding that Buddhism is not simply a philosophy and practice, but a full blown religion or set of religions, many self-proclaimed Buddhists in the West side step the issue completely with affiliation to Zen or Tibetan Buddhism. Doseiai2 (talk) 13:15, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Western and Asian Buddhism
Reword it if you like, but include the war in 1779 over the Emerald Buddha, the 2008 Cambodia war, the jatukam stampedes in 2007, all pre-existing wikipedia articles. And add Burmese-Siamese Wars, unwritten, which were also about Buddha images. Doseiai2 (talk) 13:37, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * part of verifiability is the pre-existing wikipedia articles. But my original point which was reversed was "Buddhism is a family of beliefs and practices considered by many to be a religion" are weasel words when clearly it is a "religion" or even family of religions and should be stated as such.  I have a problem with the statement "considered by many to be a religion". It is a religion, and those who don't know shouldn't be writing about it.  Islam is clearly stated as a religion in wikipedia, so should Buddhism.  Doseiai2 (talk) 13:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Buddhism
Thanks for explaining the revert Richard Pecorino (talk) 13:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Pintos
Would you be able to update the categories for Pintos? Is it free, proprietary, discontinued? Thanks 69.106.246.15 (talk) 10:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure- there aren't really any good sources of info on Pintos other than the pages for Stanford's OS class. I don't think there's any formal distribution process at present.  --Clay Collier (talk) 00:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Not Another Completely Heuristic Operating System
And this one too? Thanks again, 69.106.246.15 (talk) 10:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * NachOS is essentially dead- there haven't been any updates to the core distribution in some time. Individual schools might be continuing to use it, but at this point they're maintaining their own versions of the code and not offering any distribution.  --Clay Collier (talk) 00:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you
Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Buddhaghosa
Hi, I am reviewing your article, Buddhaghosa, and have entered some comments on Talk:Buddhaghosa/GA1. The article is excellent. I have suggested that you might add to the "Critics" section, although I like it the way it is. However, some might not understand. Please feel free to contact me with questions or comments. Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 22:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The Great Depature
I didn't know what are the historical sources that Ambedkar used for this description. I will try to find it. But he claims no originality for this book and claims it only as a compilation.

To disarm all criticism I would like to make it clear that I claim no originality for the book. It is a compilation and assembly plant. The material has been gathered from various books. I would particularly like to mention Ashvaghosha's Buddhavita [=Buddhacharita], whose poetry no one can excel. In the narrative of certain events I have even borrowed his language.

The only originality that I can claim in [=is] the order of presentation of the topics, in which I have tried to introduce simplicity and clarity. There are certain matters which give headache[s] to the student of Buddhism. I have dealt with them in the Introduction. From preface. Ganesh Dhamodkar (Talk) 04:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Eunuch
Please see this talk page and be so polite to discuss any deletions and the criteria for them before you make them. Debresser (talk) 13:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

ANI thread
I should have thought to post this here earlier: Administrators noticeboard/Incidents. Aleta  Sing 18:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. I do apologize. It was an oversight not have alerted you earlier to this. That's what I get for sneaking in WP here and there at work. Aleta  Sing 18:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Dualism
Could you look at this please? Someone is using an unreliable source to promote a kind of mind-body dualism in Buddhism, which your reliable source has contradicted. This user incidentally seems to be promoting the books of a certain lama on wikipedia generally. Mitsube (talk) 18:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The never-ending story about Shugden
Hi, I'm just starting another attempt to stop the NKT people from 'taking over' the Wikipedia with their continuous edit-war to promote the Shugden practice. If you agree, please leave a note at Administrators noticeboard. rudy (talk) 13:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could take a look at User:Truthbody's edits? Mitsube (talk) 00:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Dorje Shugden Controversy
I reverted your restoration of the YouTube video. The video claims that there was a riot in New York City; this is a pretty extraordinary claim. The video makes claims as to what is being depicted and what happened, but it is hard to tell what is going on. If there was really a riot or serious confrontation, it should be documented by independent sources as a notable event. If that isn't the case, then it seems that the YouTube video is inflating the importance of what it depicts. I don't believe that YouTube is generally acceptable as a reliable source for something like this, but let me know if you think I've misread the policy in this respect. --Clay Collier (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

the video itself may make somewhat strong claims, i agree; there was no riot thanks to the swift actions of the NYPD to evacuate the protesters. however, the WP article states only that "a mob of Dalai Lama followers also threatened Dorje Shugden practioners in New York", whch I think is clearly and inarguably shown, whatever editorial comment has been added to the video. i confess i don't know the WP policy on Youtube as a RS in general, but in this case i do feel that the video is valid. i believe there are other sources such as news reports, though, so perhaps these would be preferable. until they're found, can we please leave the reference in its original form, until we can agree on a replacement? i've readded the deleted ref.Atisha&#39;s cook (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Pings Xiao AfD
Re your message: It was funny at first, but now it is approaching annoying. Have you read the other edits by the Hectorso account? I'm still trying to parse the Talk:History of Wikipedia comment he made, but it just gives me a headache. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 16:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Message from HectorSo
Please excuse my comment related to Xiao article because I'm a new user or actually a SPA. May be I'm the worst one in your experience. However, I'll learn from you guys as senior members if you like to offer me the help in the future. Please give me your advice. Hectorso (talk) 07:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Eastern religion
Maybe you could offer a suggestion as to how to resolve the current conflict over the introduction? Thanks, Mitsube (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Dorje Shugden controversy article
Hi, there. I was able to view all the pages from Wilson's book through Amazon.com. Try that, and if you need help, I can send you some screen captures. A local university has the book, so I will try to obtain a hardcopy this week.

Also, in the same way that Mills is not the author of the book edited by Wilson, a large amount of material currently attributed to Lopez is actually from Madeline Bunting's article, a subtantial part of which he quotes on pages 193-195. If you'll notice, it's one big blockquote in his book. So, I think we need to separate those out, at least saying "as quoted in..." in the reference tags.

Also, it would be very helpful to cite individual pages in the references (rather than a whole page range). Currently, the Lopez reference name lists pages 190-196, which makes it one step harder to verify individual citations because one has to "track them down," which is especially hard if a book does not appear in Google Books or on Amazon.

Thanks for all your help on the article. Good work! Emptymountains (talk) 14:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I finally got a hardcopy...


 * This question of loyalty as the basis of Tibetan systems of state action illuminates some apparently contradictory elements of the CTA’a approach to Shugden. Whilst it is clearly the case that the numerous denials of any kind of ban on Shugden worship, produced at various points during the 1996-8 period, were in all probability simply disingenuous, there is cause to reflect on what such a ban might look like in this kind of context. Indeed, the moves to eradicate Shugden worship within the Tibetan Buddhist regions that I myself witnessed in the years since 1996 where of two kinds: ...


 * Hope this helps. Emptymountains (talk) 13:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there is a 'ban'The TGiE just havent got the nerve to admit it.I dont know why? The ban is on gov employees and monks from the gov sponsored gelug monasteries. Zealots in the Tibetan community are responsible for trying to apply it across the board, but not with the DLs explicit instruction to do so. Its turning into a straw man based on this distinction and just another pathway for attacks on the DL because he/the TGiE deny the ban exists. In one way this is true-they banned it only in the circs above-the total ban is NOT TGiE policy-see how the straw man thing is coming into play? It makes the DL look like a liarYonteng (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Vesak
A meaningful Vesak to you my friend.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) 05:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Balance/NPOV in History Section
I have replied in depth to your Balance/NPOV in History Section concerns about the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department. The synopsis of my reply is: so fix it. I have spent considerable research hours on it, and can find very little information of interest; if you can do better, please do. I just added more material on the 1991 Sacramento hostage crisis, please expand the section if you feel like actually contributing to the article's qaulity. Int21h (talk) 22:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk & Proposal pages in mainspace
As I stated on the talk page, proposals should not be created in the mainspace where they are indexed by search engines and found by user searches. That creates the confusing situation of contradictory articles with similar content on Wikipedia. Passportguy (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The RfC does not link directly to the proposal page as far as I can see. If it does, that can be easily rectified by changing the link there.

I moved the proposal to Talk:Dorje Shugden controversy/Proposal and the talk of that page to a subpage of your own talk page at User talk:Spasemunki/Shugden controversy. If you feel that the comments/outline you made on the talk page are significant, feel free to move that subpage to Talk:Dorje Shugden controversy/Proposal comments or something similar. Passportguy (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hey Spasemunki,

I made a request for comment on the Sinhalese people talk page. I would appreciate it if you could make a comment.

Many thanks, Wikinpg (talk) 12:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

| Click here for Sinhalese RfC

Request for editorial assistance
Hi Spasemunki, I really appreciated your input to the rfc I raised. Would you be able to assist me towards improving the quality of the article? It would be great if you could make some edits yourself or just add the talk page to your watchlist so that you can comment on any edits I propose and ensure that anything I do is compliant according to the guidelines in WP:COI.

Thanks & regards Bksimonb (talk) 07:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for responding and making a start to the clean up. I appreciate you may be quite busy and whatever input you can give is most welcome. Bksimonb (talk) 06:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like a new SPA didn't like your edits. They re-introduced the "As a Neo..." and re-introduced the tabloid reference. Bksimonb (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI Sockpuppet_investigations/Lucyintheskywithdada. Just letting you know as a courtesy since it was your edits that the account was undoing. Regards Bksimonb (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Buddhism
I'm puzzled by your latest edit. Does the source really say there are more Muslims than Christians? If it does, it disagrees with most others. It has certainly been suggested that there are more practising Muslims than practising Christians, but if that's what the source is talking about it should presumably say so. Peter jackson (talk) 10:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I think I must have confused a multi-diff with an edit. I've now tracked down the actual edit concerned, which is anonymous. Peter jackson (talk) 15:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Buddhism by country
Were you aware that UKF has been permablocked & this seems unlikely to be reversed? Looks like you're free to go back to improving the article. Peter jackson (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help - two years ago or so
I know you don't hang around much here any more - but at one point, you did help me understand something about Wikipedia and I never got around to thanking you.LeValley 05:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

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Early teachings
Hi Spasemunki. Thanks for your thoughtfull and relaxed comments; as you noticed, this IP really got me pissed-off with his dogmatism. Your comments are a welcome counterweight. Best regards,  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   05:16, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
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