User talk:Speakeasy Bootleg Band

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (it's still being put together - give us a chanceSpeakeasy Bootleg Band (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC) ) --Speakeasy Bootleg Band (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not Myspace, not a band listing directory, and is not for advertising or promotion of any kind. If your username doesn't represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 14:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Please delete this account
Please could you delete this account in its entirety. It was created experimentally as a feasibilty study, then summarily blocked and locked (probably automatically) before the problems were fully identified, never mind rectified. As it is now blocked and locked in perpetuity we cannot even delete it.Neither offence nor infringement were intended, and I repeat that it was purely a feasibility study. Regards Speakeasy Bootleg BandSpeakeasy Bootleg Band (talk) 15:30, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

In view of the summary way in which we were blocked before the situation could be addressed, and in view of the fact that Wikipedia is peppered with self promotion pages from celebrities, it would at least be good manners to acknowledge our attempts at communication with you, and give us the opportunity tp sort this mess out amicably. Had we wished to "ambush market" wikipedia, please rest assured that our attempt would have been considerably more subtle. Please do not continue to ignore out polite requests for dialogue.

Regards

Speakeasy Bootleg BandSpeakeasy Bootleg Band (talk) 17:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for delay in replying, but everyone here is a volunteer and sometimes real life, like the need to go and cook supper, intrudes. I don't think you were trying to "ambush market" Wikipedia, but I also don't think you understood what Wikipedia is (in two words: not Myspace) and why it is not for what you wanted to do.


 * There is no reason you should have understood, because Wikipedia does not do much at account creation time to explain what it is not for. That is because we do not want to make people read walls of text, and suspect that they would not read them anyway. What the introductory wall of text might have said is:


 * There are many sites like Myspace and Facebook for people to write about themselves and their bands, but Wikipedia is quite different: it is a project to build an encyclopedia, so it is selective about subjects for articles - see WP:BAND for what a band need to have achieved before having an article.
 * Wikipedia is not for any kind of advertising or promotion, and is very resistant to attempts to use it that way. The sort of PR-speak that goes on a Facebook page would be quite unacceptable.
 * Wikipedia accounts must be for individuals only, who are personally responsible for them. Accounts representing companies or groups are not permitted. One reason for that is that group accounts are invariably here to promote themselves.
 * In order to maintain a neutral point of view, people are strongly discouraged from writing about themselves or their own affairs, or any subject on which they have a conflict of interest - see Wikipedia is not about YOU.


 * So, you see, Wikipedia is not for what you wanted to do, and I repeat my apology that that was not made clear to you in advance. No, it was not an automatic system that blocked you, though we do have them - it was a human being, in fact two, one to flag the page and another to decide what to do about it.


 * Accounts are not deleted, but it will just remain dormant. You can blank the contents of this talk page, if you like. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your reply, and I appreciate that I may blank this talk page if I wish. I would however, like to remove the contents of the original article as well, which will ameliorate the damage, even if I cannot delete the full account. I fail to understand why the full account cannot be deleted when membership of Wikipedia and all associated information is now redundant. Until this account can be deleted, I guess it will continue to appear in "google" searches etc. and will merely be redundant information for Wikipedia's servers to store. Please can you tell me how I may deleted the original article now I am locked out of it.Speakeasy Bootleg Band (talk) 23:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If by "the original article" you mean User:Speakeasy Bootleg Band, I have already deleted it. At the moment, it still shows up on a Google search, in tenth position, and anyone clicking on it will see what you see if you click on the "redlink" just above; but as a deleted page, it will soon drop off Google's radar. If you are still concerned about this there is a last-resort process, described at Courtesy vanishing, to cover tracks by renaming an account. JohnCD (talk) 23:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)