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Aha...
So you'll remove the personal attack calling my comment a "fuckpot" but you won't follow it through with a warning? Double standards? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

[Ready] Abdelhamid Abou Zeid killed
It should link to in the Maghreb. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 00:42, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Spencer T♦ C 00:54, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hugo Chavez
Credit for the update would be nice. :) μηδείς (talk) 00:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * On that point, is there something I should (er can) put on my user page in regards to Chibombo bus crash? In addition, is the fact that I did the required referencing for Super Bowl XLVII in order for it to be posted enough to count as an update? Ryan Vesey 01:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And I did part of the update for Jerry Buss (though I don't care) --IP98 (talk) 16:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Comment
Spencer, the correct DOB was on the website before today, the BBC have put an incorrect DOB. I am his grandson and have known Bob Godfrey all my life!! I KNOW when he was born! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomlowe2012 (talk • contribs) a

ITN/C closing discussions
Hi Spencer,

I noticed you're probably the most regular at closing discussions at ITN. I was wondering if you would add [closed] (or similar) to the heading of dead discussions so they stand out in the TOC.

Cheers, --IP98 (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/Sapho
In the interest of full disclosure, I've made a few tweaks to the border (outside the image itself) since you voted. I think it's pretty clearly an improvement, but think it only fair to tell everyone. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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My edits on San Dieguito Academy
My edits are totally relevant and correct to San Dieguito Academy. It is very offensive that you don't accept my information as true so that others can learn things about our school. Please keep these edits in the page instead of deleting them in the future. Thank you for your time, A considerate, concerned SDA student P.S.- my edits are more relevant than some other information currently on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.150.240.69 (talk) 01:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Raton
I am surprised you closed this, will you reconsider? There are five opposes all admittedly based on subjective factors but three apparent supports, Muboshgu, Rambling and myself. Not a single person has said this is poorly referenced, not covered worldwide, or doesn't meet ITN2. I am not particularly interested in more pointless chatter, but others should be able to express support if they will. And arbitrary opposes like IP98's "no dogshows, no bulls, just my opinion" hardly merit against a well-proposed nomination. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was a quick close, considering the number of historic nominations that are still open, maybe four or five days older than this one. Seems odd that this would be closed so quickly compared to those?  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right; my actions were poorly considered. I will be more careful about that in the future. I have reopened the nomination.  Spencer T♦ C 22:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no need for apologies, it's obviously a long shot. It's just not worthless either, especially given it's a very interesting nomination competing with a blank spot.  You could always express your support as part of your penance. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 23:02, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2013 March newsletter
We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate  (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.

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Lifting the Gibraltar DYK restrictions
A couple of months ago, you opposed a proposal to lift the restrictions on Gibraltar-related DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012. Could you possibly clarify (1) under what conditions you would support a lifting of the restrictions, and (2) when you think it would be appropriate to lift the restrictions? Prioryman (talk) 20:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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ITN/DC
Hi Spencer,

I see you were involved with the original ITN/DC discussions in 2009. Kevin McE has unilaterally changed them to fit with his interpretation of the "update requirement". If the community agrees with a change, fine, but I don't see how one person can just re-write standard operating procedure for a Wikipedia project without discussion or consensus. Anyway, I'm letting you know in the hope that maybe you can inject some calm. I'm tired of that guy, and of the project, and am taking an extended break. Thanks. --IP98 (talk) 12:27, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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???
Hi Spencer. It's been a while. Hope all is well. I came across this and was wondering if you could take a look and let me know what you think. This must be a joke surely? Cheers  Rob van  vee  07:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Never mind. A weird thing happened. Was looking at some recent changes and found what looked like vandalism. However when I started to read the page it was clearly all just crap. And not a short page either. It had the exact same name as the link i sent you-I copied and pasted, though all I can find now is the page I sent you in the link. I cant go back far enough on the recent changes list to see where the page is either.  Rob van  vee  08:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Ha! Checked my PC history and have this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arroyo_High_School_%28El_Monte,_California%29&curid=13336094&diff=550940050&oldid=550940013 Check it out.  Rob van  vee  08:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re:Edits to Kennesaw State University
help me Clearly I'm an amateur at this. I just got a message stating that my recent post was removed because citations were needed. I've seen other pages where it simply stated "citations needed" but left the information requiring the citation. I have the memory of a very old goldfish, so I don't recall the exact wording of my edits. Could you restore the items needing citation so I could cite them? Also, several of the things I edited on the Kennesaw State University page were from the personal experience of enduring 8 and a half long years on the campus. Can personal experience be cited? If so, how? 208.86.181.160 (talk) 22:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)voodoozombie


 * I believe two batches of edits were reverted: First these edits (reverted for the failed to get the design approved "as is" part, I believe), then this one. Personal experience is not an acceptable source because our readers cannot verify it; Wikipedia requires published third-party sources. Huon (talk) 22:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

again...Many of the edits I made don't need citations as they were simply grammatical changes to delete redundant information. Can those edits be restored? Also, I am editing from a work computer that is messing with my ability to cite (Internet Explorer *cough cough*), how can I access my alterations in order to cite them from a computer running appropriate browsers? 208.86.181.160 (talk) 22:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)voodoozombie


 * It is probably easier to make the small grammar changes manually again, although you might be able to restor to your first or second edit (the first one was fine, not sure about the second). If you can't access the sources on your current computer, it is best to not make the changes until you can link properly. --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:04, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I see nothing wrong with the grammatical edits; I believe Spencer should have reverted only the last of your three consecutive edits, not all of them. I've re-added those edits. Above I gave you links to your alterations; those links will remain valid no matter what computer you use. You can also check the page history yourself; it's available via the "View history" tab at the very top. On an entirely unrelated note, you may want to choose another venue for this discussion - say, the article's talk page instead of Spencer's. Huon (talk) 23:10, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, 208.86... about the grammatical edits that I reverted (Thank you, Huon, for restoring those). I only noticed the final diff, and everything was rollback reverted; I will be more careful about that in the future.  Spencer T♦ C 23:15, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 April newsletter
We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and  claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place and second place  both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.

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St. Vincent-St. Mary High School Page
Hi, Spencer. I am new to Wikipedia and editing. I am an employee at St. Vincent-St. Mary High School and am in charge of cleaning up our page and focusing on the history of the school, the academics, the admissions department, etc. Can you please guide me in the correct direction on how to clean up the page? The whole thing needs to be whiped clean because the majority of it focuses on the athletics at the school. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by St. Vincent-St. Mary (talk • contribs) 12:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Joyce Brothers
All the tags have been removed, although whether that will stand is an open question. I suggest you look at the article's edit history, including the hostile edit summaries to get an idea of what is going on. μηδείς (talk) 17:53, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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Joyce Brothers
I disagree that the majority of opposes are legitimate or even rational rationales, obviously, but your actions have been upright. μηδείς (talk) 05:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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thanks
Thanks for blocking this IP:. His edits were especially annoying. Malke 2010 (talk) 05:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Good Faith
Hi. You held posting the Scripps National Spelling Bee yesterday to give more time for opposes to speak. No one supporting the nomination protested this. Can you please follow up? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 00:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In my judgement, I do not feel that there is sufficient consensus to post at this time and having previously removed the ready tag, I would prefer that another admin evaluate the discussion for posting worthiness (which is why I will not remove the ready tag again).  Spencer T♦ C 03:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia
Hiya! I'm pretty new to Wikipedia - I mean, I have been here a while, but haven't edited much. I was wondering if you had any tips on how to write, what to write, etc. - But I couldn't find any. I didn't know if you could tell me, or link me to anything. Thanks a lot!

December Nights (talk) 18:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; can you check this?
Hope I'm doing this talk page message right. Err, anyways, I added something on a page, as a source, and, it didn't work - Can you please check it out? Also, here's another edit - Did I take the link out right?

December Nights (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, you did it correctly. The source is a "raw link", meaning there's a link and nothing else, but it's okay.
 * And yes, you removed the link. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @  00:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Note, you arent to write the "February 2013" within the ref tags. I fixed it. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 00:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for the help. (:

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Thanks for blocking
I was really annoy by this person editing The Angelina Ballerina page, saying the Justin Bieber and Hiraly Duff voice the characters. mich (talk) 03:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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E3 2013 at ITN
Hey Spencer, I see you've closed the above nomination at ITN/C. It's quite important, in my mind, that you clarify why you've closed it, i.e. was the nature of the "vote" that the article wasn't up to scratch or otherwise? It's important because it could set a precedent that we don't post ITN/Rs despite being "ready" because the community form a different consensus from that expressed by ITN/R. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You're correct; thank you for bringing this to my attention. Best,  Spencer T♦ C 19:53, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, although I don't think your conclusion was correct, oppose votes included: " I don't see why electronic shows are that important, so therefore not significant enough for ITN.", "In the grand scheme of things, E3 is inconsequential to a company's economic performance, and video games are a niche interest anyway", "Oppose regardless of its inclusion at ITN/R. There is nothing to report here other than "big trade show happened, around 100k people went".", "Oppose ... it should not be listed at ITNR", "How is it ITNR?". If you disregarded those votes, you shouldn't be closing it, instead you should be encouraging others to improve the quality of the nomination.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:07, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Assuming those people looked at the E3 article, then the update to the article was not good enough to establish notability. Nonetheless, the closure is premature and I will reopen the nomination, but looking at the way the nomination and how well the article update has progressed so far, I highly doubt that this will be updated well enough to be posted.  Spencer T♦ C 22:54, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd be more concerned with the fact that the majority of the opposition isn't based on the article update, but based on the fact the material itself isn't considered notable enough for inclusion on the main page. But I appreciate your reconsideration of the closure.  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I just screamed a little
THANK YOU for taking care of that IP. I was growing grey hairs. You deserve a cookie :)  D u s t i *poke* 05:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, I've been tagging and bagging a few of them lol :)  D u s t i *poke* 05:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Speaking of... I have two RFPP's up regarding some of those IP's. I have a feeling at least one of them will come back under a different IP - can we have a 7 day temp protection on those two?  D u s t i *poke* 05:16, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I need some sleep too actually :)  D u s t i *poke* 05:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Removing parameters from WPUS
Please stop removing the geolocation needed parameter until the Geo coordinates are added to the article. By removing that you are removing it from the WikiProject tracking categories. Additionally, this is functionality that a lot of WikiProjects use so if you think it shouldn't be done then you need to start an RFC to change it. Kumioko (talk) 19:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I see you added the Coordinates to both articles so I removed the needs GLC parameter from the WikiProject banner. Kumioko (talk) 20:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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