User talk:SpiderJon/Archives/2009/December

Archived webpages
Hi. Just to let you know that archived copies of many webpages can be found on the Internet Archive (e.g. this one for the octopus ref: ), so it's always best to check before removing a reference completely. Cheers, mgiganteus1 (talk) 06:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * True, but I am not sure the Internet Archive counts (or should count) as a primary source, since it's then outwith the control of whoever created/managed it. When a page "disappears" perhaps that should just be accepted, and a different source found, rather than seeking to preserve/refer the original (except it's arguably not the original when it's archived)? §piderJon (talk) 13:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)