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Sports seasons and bulk deletions / nuisance nominations
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Demokra (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I want to state, for the record, that I disagree with a nuisance complaint against you. I know I can be passionate about certain subjects and I realize that we all have a POV based on our preferences but that doesn't mean we can't find common ground and it also doesn't mean opposing or differing opinions are a nuisance. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 17:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm glad it's all over now. Hopefully, we can all come together and improve the project. It'd be amazing if we all put the energy into improving articles and improving the encyclopaedia instead of taking swipes at each other (not speaking about you really, more some of the others). Like I say, at least it looks like things have settled now and we can all crack on. Spiderone  17:30, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, come on, I have taken my fair share of swipes. It's ok to critique me. My bark is worse than my bite. Maybe I shouldn't have said that but kept that as an Ace in my pocket for future use. (LoL) I am learning and it's a process. It does not mean I am less passionate but I can appreciate opposing arguments when the one opposing explains their position rather than responding, short and terse, as if the discussion is unworthy of their time and other editors are beneath them so do not deserve clarification. I don't much like being talked to as if I am a belligerent two year old. That really gets under my skin, maybe too much. Regardless, I am learning to find my niche here. I love football but I am not an expert like my brothers who actually played in Italy. So we will probably have less run-ins like we have. I just wanted to let you know that you are appreciated, even by someone who hasn't always agreed with you. I do hope that, in future discussions you and I are involved in, whether we agree or not, we can infuse more civility when others get out of hand. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 18:45, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy to agree to that! Spiderone  19:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

AfD issue
Hi. I was wondering if you could do me a favor. I tried to do a second nomination for Jeugland Hoërskool, but for some reason it wouldn't post correctly in the AfD list. It just posted the old discussion and I couldn't figure out why. I think it has something to do with how I posted the article title in the deletion discussion, but I'm not really sure. Is there any way you could look at it and get it to post properly? If so I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:22, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * - it seems the bot got there before me! On another note, why is Wikipedia littered with so many of these school stubs listed only to primary sources with no assertion of notability!? Spiderone  08:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Apparently it did. Although it seems to have screwed up one of the links, but it's better then nothing. I didn't even know bots could do that. I think there's a lot of primary school stubs because until an RfC about them recently the general consensus was that they were inherently notable. Even if they lacked references. Kind of like how geographic places just have to exist and athletes (until a few weeks ago it seems) had to just be in a pro league to be notable. It seems like Wikipedia is moving away from those standards though and for the better IMO. Except now there's a huge backlog and some people who think things should just be inherently notable who are trying to get in the way of them being dealt with. Which is kind of a ridiculous standard and way of doing things. That's my opinion about it anyway. I guess the admin that removed all my secondary school PRODs wrote an essay on his talk page about it a while back. Go figure. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * for me, it's simple. If an article has no reliable sources and there is no potential for it to have reliable sources, then it should be deleted. End of story. Spiderone  09:35, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * BuT iTs A sChOoOoOoOoOoL!!!1! Reyk YO! 09:51, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We must protect our schools from the evil Wikipedians! Spiderone  11:19, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of Sara Mérida for deletion
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 * It happens. You do a great thing here at Wikipedia and I value your opinions and contributions even if we don't always agree. :) --Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:02, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * we all want to improve the encyclopaedia. My first thought was that a player that has never played a game of professional football would never be notable but was happy to be proved wrong in this case. Spiderone  13:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I deleted our last conversation. Thank you for your kind response but my long diatribe was inappropriate for me to leave here. Feel free to delete this or I will soon. I thought about it all night and just wanted to formally apologize.--Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * no need to apologise, don't worry Spiderone  18:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Notability or not
Hi, i want to ask that are articles about referees who officiated World Cup or European Cup (any continental main tournament) matches natable??? thanksAlmgerdeu (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * - Hi, it's not a major factor. What's most important is that they pass WP:GNG and have reliable sources talking about them in detail. If someone has refereed in a World Cup but can only be sourced to database listings then they are not notable. A referee that has never officiated in a major tournament but has plenty of coverage in reliable sources will still be notable. Hope that helps. Spiderone  16:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks Almgerdeu (talk) 16:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)


 * about the article Iman Farzin you voted for delete, there are plenty of reliable sources referenced for this article (as the main subject). Can you explain for what reason you said that it doesn’t have significant coverage? There are more than 30 references of reliable media, news agencies and newspapers. Thanks 86.55.112.237 (talk)
 * Having translated a lot of sources, a lot of them provide just passing mentions and are not focused on Farzin as an individual Spiderone  10:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thai seasons
If 2016 Ubon UMT United F.C. season should go, do you think 2015 Krabi F.C. season should go as well? Playing in the same league... Geschichte (talk) 22:34, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I would agree. I must have missed that one when I did a PROD of a few last week. Spiderone  22:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)