User talk:SpideyGeek13

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&mdash; Ingenuity (talk &bull; contribs) 01:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Well I only submitted an article for Simpsons/King of the Hill animator Shaun Cashman, since he's one of the few Simpsons/King of the Hill directors that didn't have a Wikipedia article. The reason why there is a link to IMDb is because most animators/actors etc. have a link to IMDb in the external links section. I tried adding the Facebook link since he does have a Facebook but it was unidentified it didn't work. Can you please help me try to resubmit this draft so it can be published as an article? SpideyGeek13 (talk) 11:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 01:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Formatting episode tables
Don't worry, I'm not here to ride your case, I just wanted to add some insight. After reading about some of the edits discussed at User talk:69.255.225.138, and looking at the 22 Short Films About Springfield article history... I couldn't help noticing a rather large number of line-breaks used as item separators. There may be instances in which using one of the list templates in a table is inappropriate due to compatibility issues, but I would recommend using a list template when listing 3 or more people, such as directors in Infobox film (e.g. Plainlist, Unbulleted list). If I found  tags in an article, I would have corrected them per H:BR (&#60;br&#62; → &#60;br /&#62;), preferably with other simultaneous edits. As far as adding punctuation spacing in the table source, it may make the source code more readable, but at the same time it unnecessarily adds to the article's file size; this is a cosmetic edit.

I have gain experience editing Wikipedia, making mistakes and losing arguments along the way, but quantity does not mean quality (see WP:EDITCOUNT). Meaning, the above is not to be taken as an authoritative policy. If in doubt, ask on the relevant talk page, or use Help me here on your own talk page. Finally, thank you for registering, and have many happy edits. &#8212;&#160;CJDOS,&#160;Sheridan,&#160;OR&#160;(talk) 07:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Excuse me CJDOS, can you unblock this IP address (69.255.225.138) because I cleary said that I didn't vandalize these pages. I want to edit another page but you blocked me. Can you unblock this IP address now? I want to add something in the "in animation" page. It's just that waiting for an ENTIRE month is too long. But if you do unblock me, I promise not to mess around with these tables anymore. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 11:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The account you’re using is clearly fine, but logging out as an IP can be considered loutsocking. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 12:43, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

As an FYI, your account should already be globalized, meaning that if you log in/out of the English Wikipedia, it will automatically do so for other Wikiprojects such as Wikimedia Commons, and Wiktionary (though you may have to refresh the page). Consider protecting your unified login with a committed identity. The downside is that an unwanted talk page may get created for you at that location by a bot—even if you've never performed any edits whatsoever to that project because it's in a language you don't comprehend—just because you visited it while logged in. Conclusion: be aware of whether you're logged in/out of your account. &#8212;&#160;CJDOS,&#160;Sheridan,&#160;OR&#160;(talk) 16:44, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't block nor unblock anyone, sorry; I don't have those privileges. Now that you're registered, you should edit only when logged in. First, your credited for your edits (WP:AWARDS, H:THANKS). Second, IP addresses are often shared, so someone else could vandalize a page from the same IP address. Third, as mentioned above, it's an inappropriate use of multiple accounts. There are legit reasons to have multiple accounts (WP:SOCKLEGIT), but intentionally editing while logged out could get your registered account blocked.
 * I'm so sorry that I try to escape the other block for my IP address, I literally only created this account just yesterday and only made a few edits. Can you unblock me and I promise not to use the IP address account again? SpideyGeek13 (talk) 16:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I promise I will leave the blocked IP alone from now on. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 19:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I promise. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 13:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Blocked
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 months for evading a previous block. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:18, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * SpideyGeek13 (talk) 16:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @NinjaRobotPirate If you could read my appeal in my 69.255.225.138 account, I did a detailed explanation on why that I was blocked from editing on Wikipedia. I gave out a couple reasons why and extending my block was not just unnecessary but also that was a bit too far. I was almost bored for the entire day due to my accounts being blocked. I already started my new account (SpideyGeek13) which was blocked also due to evading this block but the point is, I didn't do anything with that account other just creating it. Not to mention if I'm blocked for three months, how could I keep up with 2022 in animation? I'm in charge for adding some recent events and famous deaths to this page. It's just waiting for three months is hard, all I want is to edit again although I will be more careful next time. I promise that if you guys do unblock me, I will behave better, be more careful with my edits and use my new account (SpideyGeek13) from now on. I'm sorry that I evade an IP address block. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 13:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @NinjaRobotPirate, Here is the link to my appeal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:69.255.225.138#Unblock_reasoning
 * I explained in detail why I was blocked and how could I behave better in Wikipedia. If you approve then can you unblock my SpideyGeek13 account? SpideyGeek13 (talk) 13:47, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * As the admin that extended the block on the IP address, I'm actually okay with an unblock here. However, SpideyGeek13, I'll note that your edits have generally been inappropriate and your unblock requests are, frankly, WP:BLUDGEON. If you are unblocked, I'd very, very, very strongly advise you to listen to warnings you receive. Your next block will almost certainly be indefinite, so the expectation would be that you do zero edits that result in warnings, and any warnings you receive, you think long and hard about. The actual unblock here is NRP's call. --Yamla (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I promise to listen for warnings from now on and I won't do edits that result in warnings. I don't want to be blocked from editing indefinitely. Can you unblock this account and I promise not to act despicable again? SpideyGeek13 (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I keep forcing everyone with my unblock requests. I was actually being patient to get a response for the past two days I was blocked, I will be more competent when I get unblocked. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 17:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

OK, you want to edit "XXXX in animation" pages. In this edit, you added Manabu Ôhashi to the list of births in 1949 with a bunch of random credits. It was cited to this page. Nowhere on that page does the date "January 17, 1949" appear, and almost none of those credits are listed. As far as the birth date goes, an age at death appears, but that's it. According to that source, he could have been born in 1950. Then there's this edit where you removed a citation for no reason. Special:Diff/1116720986 is completely unsourced and lists a bunch of random things, including an unsourced date of birth for a presumably living person. And there's this edit, which is a part of a revert spree where you insist that these articles be written exclusively according to your preferences. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that I added an unsourced birth for Manabu Ôhashi. He died earlier this year but I forgot to add him earlier. I think I should put his birth in the specific date unknown section between 1949 and 1950. Another thing is that for births for living people, nobody (aside for the ones that passed away later on) put sources for their births. Some of them are understandable like the birth of a popular celebrity. Plus websites like The Animation Guild usually revealed which people had died in the previous month or in the current month. I removed the citation for Duncanville's cancellation because after a show passed its cancellation date, I removed the citation. All of the previous years prior to 2022 doesn't have sources about the show being cancelled/ending production. Finally the main reason why I was blocked anyway is because I was in an edit war. I already explained in my appeal that I was adding specific numbers and line breaks because in my opinion, I want to make the pages look better. However, I did these edits for 34 seasons of The Simpsons and as a result I was blocked. That led to me to create a new account to start editing but I was trying to evade my block for the IP address so that account was blocked too, even if I only created it. When you do unblock me, I promise that I would always add sources and also be more kinder, besides I usually do add sources anyway for events and death dates. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 18:05, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Not to mention, those "random credits" were the shows/movies that Manabu Ôhashi worked on. Also @Barry Wom, why did you revert most of my edits under my account? Gene Simmons IS a member of KISS and he did do a few other voice credits like he played himself in The Fairly OddParents episode Wishology and he also created the cartoon My Dad the Rock Star. Also why did you remove all of Jymn Magon's other credits that is not from Disney? He did worked on multiple Disney shows until he left company but he did do other cartoons too. When you removed Katie Rice from the births section of the 1981 in animation page, why did you do that? She started animating in 2000-2001 when she was 19. If you subtract 2000-2001 and 19, it will equal 1981 or 1982. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 19:03, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Although almost none of the credits were mentioned in the article, some of the work listed in the source were from Toei Animation so that's why I shortened it Toei since he worked on multiple shows/movies for that company, not to mention his short "Cloud" was a segment for the film Robot Carnival. Cartoon Brew sometimes put misinformation like when they made an article for the death of Maureen Mlynarczyk, they claim that she worked on VeggieTales as a sheet timer. But that is false because not just that she is no where seen in the credits, but it tells me that they just directly sourced almost of her credits on IMDb which is where they really messed up. Although Cartoon Brew and Animation Magazine are reliable sources (not to mention they interviewed some people too), they sometimes do goof up with their credits. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 19:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Aside from those unexplained edits, I always use reliable sources for events/death dates, etc. Because if somebody didn't put a reliable source for those, that just comes out lazy. Not to mention when I get unblocked, I'm planning to add actor Ron Masak to the October deaths of the 2022 in animation since he worked on animated shows like Meatballs and Spaghetti, The Real Ghostbusters, the Ruby-Spears Superman and American Dragon: Jake Long. If you didn't know, he passed away yesterday, the same day I was blocked. I know that somebody is probably planning to going add him (or not) but when I get unblocked, I will find a reliable source and add it to that page. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 19:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Is it OK to be unblocked now? I will be more competent, nicer and reliable with my sources from now on. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 14:15, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You know what? I'm going to abandon this account and make a new account but I do promise that if I do that, I promise that I will be more competent, add sources to my articles and I will listen for warnings from now on. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 23:58, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Do not open a new account while you are blocked. The block applies to the person, not the account.
 * Additionally, You have an appeal open here, and at your IP. Which one would you prefer to remain open? SQL Query Me!  02:35, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * After checking, It appears to me that you've been editing logged out on another IP, and have created another account. I would recommend that you stop this behavior at once. SQL Query Me!  02:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok SQL. I'm sorry I tried to open a new account. The IP address I was editing was from a different location. I was adding two more people to the 2022 in animation page (Ron Masik and Austin Stoker), alongside other celebrities in the XXXX in animation pages. Sure, I could've add them via edit requests but unfortunately, I cannot do an edit request when I'm blocked. And second, my original plan is to abandon my SpideyGeek13 account since I tried to make an unblock request but nobody responded to me. I didn't edit anything on my new second account (IronSquirrels) but yeah. I was in a different location doing the editing. The good news is that I didn't edit anything with that account. If I would've did that, then I would've been blocked again. The original plan for that account is that it could've been my backup account just in case if something happens to this account, but my plan failed. If you don't decline this request to unblock SpideyGeek13, then I promise not to use the IronSquirrels account. Is that a deal? The only problem about the appeal is that the more constructive explanation for my appeal is at the IP address talk page. The appeal shown above in SpideyGeek13's talk page isn't too constructive so that is the reason why I inserted a link for the appeal. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 03:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for this behavior. Can you forgive me? Also I decided to move my more constructive appeal in this talk page. That way, that could be one step closer to be finally unblocked. Can you close the appeal above in this account and the appeal in the 69.255.225.138 talk page? If you do approve my appeal, can you let me know if I'm unblocked? I promise I will become a better Wikipedian. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have closed the last remaining request at one of your IP's page, as well as the other open one above here. I have checkuser-blocked the new account. As a note, never edited anything. You edited many articles logged-out using your other IP while blocked both under this account, and the 69.x IP. I will leave this request open for more input.  SQL Query Me!  04:47, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What happened to "I promise I will leave my IP address account alone and I won't evade a previous block"? It seems we can't trust your promises.  If you don't get what you want fast enough, you simply take it by illicit means.  I've made your block indefinite.  That means that any edits you make from this point on, whether logged in or logged out, will be block evasion.  If you can go six months without any block evasion, I'd consider unblocking you.  See the standard offer.  You can still edit sister projects without affecting your English Wikipedia block.  This is advised, as it will show that you can edit within the rules of a Wikimedia project. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:50, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for sockpuppeting and evading again. I'm sorry that I lied about never evading again. I tried creating another account during my block but that is not a good idea. I should've listened to you. I'm also sorry for adding Ron Masak without permission. He was briefly involved with animation, not to mention I included a source from The Hollysood Reporter. For Peter Siragusa, although his voice credits are correct, for the additional voices part Cloudy with Chance of Meatballs came out last, it is not the first ADR to be released first, the first release was Home on the Range. I'm sorry I added some more celebrities to the XXXX in animation pages without permission. I'm so sorry for everything I did in these four days. Waiting to be unblocked is just hard. I don't want to get block indefinitely but at last, I'm sadly am. The only way to request an unblock ticket is to wait for six months. That means by March, I could request an unblock ticket but if I do that, I promise that I will explain those mistakes and to never ever do these things again. Maybe I could help with the sister Wikipedia sites for now. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 23:58, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to make a pinky promise that I won't break, I won't create another account and I won't evade another block ever again. If I wait six months to be unblocked, I will never do these things ever again because now there's consequences. Although for this account the only thing I did wrong is evading the IP block and creating another account while blocked. I'm very sorry for my actions Yamla, SQL and NinjaRobotPirate. When I get unblocked, I will definitely behave better and if I use the unblock ticket, I will only mention the things I did wrong and not use stuff like "Can you unblock me now?" in my appeal. I will wait. But yeah, aside from those mishaps from this past week (evading, disruptive editing), I was a good Wikipedian but doing those things were a bad idea. Next time, I will listen to you guys and whenever I have warnings. If I won't break my promise (by not creating another account or evade my current block) to never do these things ever again, can you make a deal and make my block period back to a month or two months and I promise to wait and make 0 edits? It is just not fair and it is very hard to deal with being blocked indefinitely. That went TOO hard. I did apologize for my actions though. During my waiting period, I will not edit anything however I will still talk with you guys in my talk page. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 20:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

WP:SO requires zero edits, not endless WP:BLUDGEONing on your talk page. No more edits, here or anywhere else, for at least six months. Honestly, given your behaviour, six months is incredibly generous. Start now. --Yamla (talk) 21:13, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Ok Yamla. I already said that I won't make any edits for a while but I'm just saying, can you at least restore the block period back to either 1 month or 3 months? If you say no, then after I wait for 6 months, could I request an unblock ticket? SpideyGeek13 (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you'll allow me to add in my two cents, listen, it sucks that you got blocked indefinitely. Despite how I may have reacted towards you, I did not want you to be blocked. However, and I mean this with all sincerity, you really need to just take the hit and wait the six months. Asking for the deal you made above is not gonna expedite the unblocking process; that's only going to make it worse. If you're having problems with being patient, contribute to the sister projects, learn how to make a table/list in HTML, or literally anything else besides editing on English Wikipedia. I hope that you genuinely do improve if/when you come back. (Note: Do not reply to this, just read it.) TheHonestEditor (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Worse, each time you comment here, each time you WP:BLUDGEON us, you are making it less likely you'll ever be unblocked. ZERO EDITS. Starting now. ZERO. I know this is hard to understand, so let me make this very clear. Do not respond to this comment. Do not respond to any other comment. Do not post a new comment. Do not attempt to edit while signed out. ZERO EDITS. ZERO. NOT ONE. ZERO. --Yamla (talk) 21:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to add that WP:SO isn't a guarantee. You'll need to make a cogent, and convincing unblock request at that time. Being a positive contributor on another wiki is always something I look at when evaluating those requests. Just waiting 6 months does not always cut it.
 * The most important thing is to cease editing this project, logged in on this account / another account, or logged out. It will always get found out. You seem like a smart, dedicated person. You can do this. SQL Query Me!  00:29, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * At this point, you're very close to just not editing on here at all. When you're told to stop editing on English Wikipedia (the project you're currently editing right now), you stop editing/responding on the project. Work only on the sister projects. (If you feel the need to respond to this, let me reiterate: DO NOT RESPOND). TheHonestEditor (talk) 03:35, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear SpideyGeek13:
 * I know you've felt really horrible about your block of 1 month, which got extended to 3 months, and now 6 or worse, because I've tried to help you throughout the process of unblocking but I suppose that was to no avail, but that should be a given, since I'm just starting to learn that there's more to Wikipedia than just editing, myself. I hope that you can learn an important rule, which is to collaborate with others, because it seems a lot of your warnings spawned from that, into your initial block. If you have any questions about this, do not respond to this message and just wait it out. Play some games, go for a walk, do something that makes you happy, other than Wikipedia, for a while. You'd be surprised at how many options you have. I leave you with a heartful "good luck", and I hope you can return soon to prove yourself as a great editor.
 * Best regards,
 * 𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐬 (let's chat!) 18:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Bludgeon
This user has continued WP:BLUDGEONing via. I will now oppose unblocking this user in six months. They are unable to function appropriately on Wikipedia. -- Yamla (talk) 20:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * This will be the last comment to the talk page. I won't post anything after that. What I'm trying to say is that I'm not trying to bludgeon to get me unblock just a few days after I was blocked. To tell the truth, I wasn't trying to be unblock today. I only made this confession now since because you told me not to comment in the talk page and SQL told me that you need to make a constructive appeal in order to become unblocked. But like I said, I will listen to you and wait for 6 months. I just don't want you to oppose this offer because if you so, I won't be able to edit again. But I learned my lesson, I should wait for 6 months instead of asking to do it now. I am a good editor and I just hoping that I can edit again, but I will behave better. I will function appropriately on Wikipedia, I trust you. I won't post another comment afterwards, okay? See you in 6 months. SpideyGeek13 (talk) 21:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I have revoked access to this talk page for one year due to your continued bludgeoning. If UTRS is revoked for less than one year, we'll adjust the page protection to match that. You have demonstrated, over and over again, a complete inability to avoid this behaviour, despite being told, over and over again by multiple people, to knock it off. --Yamla (talk) 21:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

is closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:05, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I see above confirmed block evasion Oct 23, 2022, so not eligible for unblocking anyway. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)