User talk:SpikeJones/Archive 3

BLP and the Six Flags Incidents Page
Hey Spike, I've been watching the Six Flags Incidents page since dropping some content in there some time ago and have been watching you for some time working on removing BLP-type content. I think an explanation on the talk page might help. I've got the time and am willing to do some top-down work to get the document cleaned up both WRT formatting and removal of BLP-type content. Drop me a shout at my own page. Ogre lawless (talk) 20:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Pointless Disneyland links
Looks like 71.116.162.179 is adding links to Disneyland articles to a website called "Original D" and I'm pretty sure those links add nothing new to the articles. -- blm07 23:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey everybody. I finally figured out how this site works and what it is for. I am very sorry for adding the links to Original D everywhere. I was getting frustrated because some links were staying that seemed to be pointless or had nothing to do with the attraction while the Original D links had Hidden Mickey Locations, Tips, and a Video of every attraction that I added it to. I won't do this again, I really apologize for the mass spamming. I would like everyone to consider the edit I made on 5/14/08 on the Disneyland Park main page. I don't know how to link to it, I'm sorry. But it made the external links easier to read and I included several sites (not just Original D) that I feel are very informative and all have something to add to Wikipedia.71.116.162.179 (talk) 01:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

SpikeJones, please read my comment on this page. Thanks! -Dewdrinker19 (talk) 01:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Snow White's Scary Adventures‎
Thank you for your excellent work reverting vandalism on. Tiggerjay (talk) 01:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Pinball
I see that you arbitrarily decided to move the contested section rather than join in the discussion that had already been established regarding that portion of the article. As a courtesy to those of us who were having the talk (and those that you may be involved in in the future), can you please check to make sure that there isn't some sort of discussion taking place that is trying to reach consensus before making your own decision as to what to do? In this case, the end result may have ended up as "keep it integrated". 'preciate it. SpikeJones (talk) 11:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Asher196"
 * If you don't like it, revert it. That easy.Asher196 (talk) 12:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Sources of roller coaster data
I'd normally ask the head of the roller coaster wikiproject this, but he's on a long wikibreak. I've seen you around quite a bit, so maybe you'll have some insight on my question.

Currently, we use RCDB as a reliable source for roller coaster data. But what if a coaster's data on RCDB doesn't match up with its data on the park's official website? I've seen this happen in several cases. Which should be used as a more reliable source?

Perhaps the park that owns the coaster would know best -- then again, their website might be more concerned with marketing and "round numbers" than accuracy.

I know RCDB is concerned with accuracy, but there are probably still mistakes if they've acquired numbers second-hand: their site says, "The rcdb's data was compiled from a plethora of sources: Usenet, Internet, amusement parks, roller coaster manufacturers and enthusiasts."

Is there a consensus on this? Please reply on my talk page. I've posed the same question to a few other active editors of coaster articles, so I can get several people's input and not just one.

Thanks!

-- Skylights76 (talk) 00:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Great work!


SpikeJones: Although I'm sure you're not exactly looking for special recognition, I wanted to simply thank you for the great work you do here on Wikipedia and how you graciously work with all editors to improve this wonderful, collaborative site. Thank you, thank you! Often such hard work goes under appreciated and unnoticed, except to be flamed by irritated, irrational editors. Keep up the great work - you really make a difference here! Tiggerjay (talk) 07:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Incidents at Disney parks
Re: The mention of motion sickness in the above article

I agree that a mention of motion sickness incidents can be of interest to the reader. However, the article does not mention anything about subsequent orange or green lines, as well as such ride changes not being the scope of the article. The article only deals with medical incidents.

Many, many rides at Disney cause motion sickness, yet none others rate a mention. This would make mentioning it for the Space ride inconsistent with the rest of the article.

As I said, I do agree that it is noteworthy. But perhaps it is better suited to the article about the Mission: Space ride itself instead of a periphery article that deals with a more generalised topic.

What are your thoughts on this? Lighthope (talk) 04:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: WALL-E (soundtrack)
Consider it done. Steve T • C 20:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Question ?
Have you ever been to Walt Disney World? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike41691 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

BURN-E
Hihi, the scene you keep deleting is shown in the trailers, any reason that you can't take it to the talk page now that the article has survived AfD? There are a lot of articles on WP that we may not like or approve of, but taking stuff out of an article with a somewhat rude edit summary isn't the way to gain consensus. LegoTech &middot;(t)&middot;(c) 04:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Newt (film)
Please check out the links I provided here regarding capitalisation of titles and names. Should have also put them in edit summaries, but forgot. Cheers Nouse4aname (talk) 19:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I Don't Belieeeeve IIIT!
I am Tobyphoby and I am totally outraged and apalled that you got rid of a perfectly valid story about Mr Mcpherson, 97 at the time, and still fighting strong to this day. Mickey was in the seat behind him and was accused to have stabbed him. I was there when this event occured and the atmosphere was electric as blood poured from Mr Mcpherson's back and Mickey was handcuffed while Pluto watched on in horror. It was unforgettable and to delete that section within a minute is utterly butterly trampy! So please bring it back. It doesn't need any references: The story speaks for itself. And as for notability; FORGET ABOUT IT! So please bring it back--Tobyphoby (talk) 21:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

confusion
Now I'm just plain confused. Regardless of whether it's The Hill School or Hotchkiss School, what, exactly, does this mean? I ask more out of curiosity now than anything else. Are you arguing that the rules for universities don't apply to schools? Or that there's a separate rule for schools that I've just missed? Cheers! Esrever (klaT) 19:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, we are speaking the same language then. I was actually quoting the bottom part of the naming conventions to begin with, because it explicitly addresses the use of The in the university article names (indicating that, generally, The should be avoided).  Like you, I was extrapolating that to refer to high schools, too, although for a different end, I think.  While I still think "The Hill School" looks funny, at least that really does seem to have mainstream usage. Esrever (klaT) 20:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyrighted photographs and NFCC
To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of images could be added either, but the question we should always ask is, "Does the image show anything unique about the incident that can't be expressed through text?" If the image is descriptive enough, (say, showing a derailed rollercoaster), it may qualify. I'm not sure how much my response helps you, but I deal better with specifics than generalities... which gets me to the Fabio picture.

My belief is that the Fabio picture probably qualifies as fair use, since the video/images of the incident was as much of the story as the incident itself (especially since it left a pretty nasty gash on a guy whose fame is based on his looks), but I haven't been able to find a source to back this point. Then again, it might be enough to provide a descriptive illustration of the incident.

Do my explanations make sense? --Mosmof (talk) 04:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Template modifications
Spike, I've requested a discussion on modifying the template for the park infoboxes in talk pages for both the template itself and the parent WikiProject. You broached the subject a while back after the Miamiboyzinhere edit war this spring, and now that another user has made the same change (since reverted), it may be time to discuss it again. I'd appreciate any input you can provide in either talk page. Thanks. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * There's another edit war a-brewin over in Disney's Wide World of Sports, so I was bold and edited the template. I've checked other Disney parks at random and everything seems OK. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Wide World of Sports
(a duplicate of how I replied on my talk page) I did ... it lies within the northwest quadrant of the interchange of I-4 and US 192, something Disney has owned and controlled almost since day 1. It lies within the boundaries of the Reedy Creek Improvement District, another sign that it's on Disney-owned and Disney-controlled property. A few days ago, I did modify the location subhead in the WDWR article to mention that WWoS and the All-Star Resorts were located in Osceola County, something that is not in question. This edit war (which even I got warned about) is again about how one editor wants things to be listed when a group of editors has already established how that will be discussed.

If you read Simon's posts, he says WWoS lies some 15 minutes away from the resort, which is patently not true. While WWoS is in Osceola County, it is still well within WDW's borders. Hopefully this can be resolved peacefully, going forward ... but somehow I doubt it.

McDoobAU93 (talk) 12:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Simon Bar Sinister is back and left a rather rude personal attack on my talk page. I've reverted it and left a Level 4 IM warning on his talk page to not do it again. Sounds like the 24-hour block didn't help cool him off. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Pixar template
You do understand that I agree we should not include the live action films in the main list? Right? Actually I'm getting confused too. :P Alientraveller (talk) 16:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope, all good. Alientraveller (talk) 13:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

declined - semiprot disney princess
Hello. You stated that there wasn't enough disruptive edits to warrant semi-protecting the page (I'm sure we can deal in the meantime). Considering that the last few days have had 7 reverts of the nonsense data by these IPs, I merely ask what is the number of edits that is required before it becomes disruptive? In an ideal world, of course, the "this is your last warning before being blocked" messages on those IP talk pages would be heeded, but that doesn't seem to be the case - hence my question. In any case, I appreciate your swift handling of the request. TIA. SpikeJones (talk) 21:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It is not so much a number of edits as a frequency. Because Wikipedia is a wiki, page protection is considered harmful. As such, semi-protection is only used when pages are vandalized to the extent that reverting them is taking time away from other activities. Two or three reverts a day doesn't usually meet that criterion, although exceptions are made for high-visibility pages. Stifle (talk) 08:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Al Lutz issues
I see Toring is back. Thanks for reverting, and I have issued them another warning. Please let me know if they become disruptive again. Otherwise, they are not banned and are welcome to contribute constructively. Thanks again. — Satori Son 15:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Revertion
How you can you revert my edit on Incidents on Six Flags Parks on the section Batman The Ride at Six Flags Over Georgia? Please give me a reason why, or I'll revert this revert. Thanks. MH LU talk 22:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

American Idol Experience
Hey Spike. The user you reverted when he added uncited rumors about a possible opening date change managed to revert you, so I reverted him back. I also took the time to leave a comment on his talk page regarding verifiability. Hopefully he'll discuss the changes on the talk page before reverting again. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Disney character WikiProject
Hi! I couldn't help but noticing that you mentioned a Disney character WikiProject when you edited the Ariel (The Little Mermaid)‎ article. Were you referring to the Disney character guidelines I proposed at WikiProject Disney? If so, please don't refer to it as a "Disney character WikiProject" just yet; nothing has been finalized, and the guidelines are merely a draft...plus I proposed a task force, not a separate WikiProject. :) ...if that wasn't what you were referring to, then I apologize for wasting space on your talk page. :p --SilentAria talk 16:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course I understand the intention to improve the character articles and that's great (and boy, do they need work; I get a headache just thinking about it), but I just wanted to prevent any confusion people might have if they hear about a Disney character WikiProject and look for it, only to find out that it doesn't exist. :) You could always cite the specific guidelines from WP:MOS-WAF and other guidelines in the meantime instead of citing guidelines from a WikiProject/task force that hasn't been established yet. :) --SilentAria talk 02:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

WALL-E
How are you Spike? In my sandbox, I've been rewriting the WALL-E article to be more comprehensive. Later this week I'll receive the Blu-ray and afterwards forage from some of the citations I used in the current revision. Do you mind advising the structure?

On the one hand, I could write the article like Transformers where information on how each character was designed and animated is put with the cast list, or I could do it like 300 where I list the cast in like a narrow place under Plot. What do you reckon? Alientraveller (talk) 12:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Aw shucks, you put a lot of terrific work into Disney articles so don't put yourself down. :) My issue with the article right now is that list of robots. Will you support me to remove it once I incorporate my rewrite and point out of what is making the article too long? Alientraveller (talk) 15:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you would want it if it provided interesting info on the creation of each character. If there isn't, I will remove it because I'm sure someone else will during FAC. Alientraveller (talk) 18:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Martin Randall Travel
Hello. You listed an article I wrote for deletion, claiming that it reads like an advert. Please could you point out where this is the case? If it is repairable, I'll do it. I create very few articles, but would rather rewrite them in their entirety six or seven times than see them get deleted. You just undid my attempt to do what the other guy said... please tell me what's wrong...

Thanks, Fuzzibloke (talk) 21:21, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

11-27-08
Hello Spike. Can you help me find ideas of expanding amusement roller coaster articles, described on RollerCoaster WikiProject? Thanks. MH LU talk 17:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ride discriptions, contents, details, and info about amusement rides. HTH, MH  LU talk 22:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

TR2N
Hi Spike, thanks for removing the bit I added about the "TRZ" name for the Tron sequel - I didn't realise that the source was so unreliable! My bad... One of the things I like about Wikipedia is that you learn new things... every time I add to articles and they get changed/undone, I learn more - so seriously, thanks Spike! Regards, PhantomSteve (talk) 19:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

List of female stock characters
This article is still a bunch of original research, and therefore unencyclopedic. Not much improvement has been going on since AfD, I must say. It's just another revert war and vandalism magnet. M0RD00R (talk) 08:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

HG
How do you use Huggle to warn users because of vandalism? MH LU talk 21:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Ice-DNA edits
Hey Spike. I saw all this getting changed earlier today, and I left a message on their talk page asking them to be a bit more careful about their edits. As to adding all the commas and making the summaries more into a cohesive sentence, I'm wondering if that's not such a bad idea. What do you think? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. I concur that Ice was adding too much detail, and said such on the note I left on Ice's talk page. The style change was something I initially fought, then had to think about it and see what consensus was, hence me contacting you. So we're good. Thanks! --McDoobAU93 (talk) 02:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Revert
Hi, could you tell me why you reverted my edits? Rollback is for "blatantly nonproductive" edits and vandalism, so it would be nice to know what I did wrong to prevent it from happening again in the future. Thanks. І'm Fixed nоw, I Rаn а Tеst 22:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. It just felt like my edits were reverted the same way vandalism would be. I know trivia sections are discouraged and I'll remember not to add unnecessary bloat to plot details in the future. І'm Fixed nоw, I Rаn а Tеst 17:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Bolt
Please see Talk:Bolt (2008 film). Fdguiofdufdugf (talk) 17:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

American Idol Experience
Hey Spike. I thought about it after I reverted it, that a citation tag would probably be more appropriate, but at the same time I thought leaving it vague would be a bit better at this point. I've been hearing the February 14 date, too, but only on rumor sites. No worries! --McDoobAU93 (talk) 18:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Not unlike the rumored bulldozing of the Norway pavilion that got added into Wikipedia and then made its way onto fan sites all over the web. But at least the AIX rumor seems to be more grounded in fact. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * That they did ... this edit said they were gonna raze the whole kit and kaboodle. It's been edited in twice, and reverted twice. Again, no citations.  --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Minor characters in Cars (film)
Thanks for the notice. I've given 75.189.155.170 a level 3 warning for vandalism. Any more of this and it goes to 4. -- Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:35, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it!
Hi, Spike. I went ahead and replaced the info in the Cars article on Lightning McQueen's encounter with the railroad crossing but with a reference and without the slightly OR-sounding text. Whoever animated those signals was either intimately familiar with them or they really did their homework. The look like real Magnetic Flagman upper-quadrant signals and start up exactly the same way. I helped restore and install a couple of these at the Orange Empire Railway Museum a few years ago and that slow startup is exactly how they operate. Anyway, I thought I'd let you know what I'd done. Thanks and see you 'round. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It was just a detail I found interesting since I have personal experience with the things. The accuracy is what blew me away. I'll go ahead and remove the reference to the signals in Richmond; let me know what you think. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 15:30, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point. I'm not saying that the filmmakers were inspired by that crossing in Richmond, only that it's the closest thing to the crossing in the movie. The details certainly hint that they may have researched it through that site I cited, but that's speculation. There used to be several double upper-quadrants in Los Angeles along Alameda Street, but they were all removed when the Alameda Corridor went through. Oddly, there's no picture of an upper-quadrant wigwag in the wigwag article, so I thought the reference would kill two birds with one stone. Feel free to remove the reference if you wish. It was just a bit of minutiae that the train geek in me couldn't resist adding, especially since I only recently saw the movie in its entirety. Thanks again! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 17:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The Mirage Volcano
Hi

I would have to disagree that the previous posting of "periodically" is adequate and that the times are not definitive. For one thing, they are definitive. All you have to do is call the general information line for The Mirage and they'll tell you - as I did. Secondly, adding specific times makes Wikipedia a more complete and accurate resource and does not start making it a travel guide. Additionally, many Las Vegas hotel attractions have posted times in their corresponding wiki articles; ie Sirens of TI. --EvilHidden (talk) 05:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Please explain
Please could you explain your rationale behind reverting my valid edits here? 86.161.118.25 (talk) 11:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Pixar template
Since Carter and 1906 are technically not Pixar productions, should Lasseter, Bird and Stanton have their own templates now? I think we could move the Buzz Lightyear spin-offs to just the Toy Story template, while keeping that short Lasseter made before Pixar was formed in his template, and then the live action films in Bird and Stanton's templates. Alientraveller (talk) 09:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You removed JCOM from the template, and although it is not a Pixar film there are Pixar staff working on it at the Emeryville lot. It was placed there because Stanton doesn't have his own template. But removing that and the spin-offs would render an entire section to one link, unless you are willing to relent about it not officially being a Pixar short because it was made before it was sold to Jobs and place it under Shorts. Alientraveller (talk) 16:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, Bird and Stanton, Pixar's first live action graduates, now have their own templates. Alientraveller (talk) 18:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Movie City News
Hello SpikeJones. You removed several Metacritic citations about top ten lists from the articles Funny Games (2008 film), Man on Wire , Milk (film) , Frost/Nixon (film) , and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (film) &mdash; replacing those citations with citations to Movie City News. Wikipedia doesn't have an article for Movie City News, and I don't know how reliable a source it is. I think it's fine if you want to cite it in film articles, since it apparently tracks more lists, but please don't remove the citations to Metacritic, which is considered a reliable source. Thanks. --Pixelface (talk) 00:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

About Toy Story 3
Sorry about that. This is where I found it. I am not good at this ref thing. It may not be a reliable source so thanks for deleting it. BooSluggers (talk) 01:38, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Valid Material?
Hello Spike Jones. I have added some external links to interviews that you have reverted and would like to discuss the validity of their inclusion. There are a number of interviews that The Drew Marshall Show has done and has archived that would be of interest to and benefit the readers researching certain celebrity bio's on Wikipedia. They are a collection of free audio interviews for anyone who wishes to listen. I'm not trying to promote the web site or sell anything, no money or promotion will be made from this. These are just interviews with celebrities containing autobiographical information, specifically religious or spiritual beliefs, that pertain to information in the respective articles, where comments have been made about the religious beliefs of a specific celebrity. I think these interviews would be helpful to those researching through Wikipedia. I use wikipedia all the time and woul dfind the inclusion of such material very helpful and trustworthy (since the information comes from the person themselves). If I am doing a bad thing here I will stop...just wanted to contribute. Thanks Sierranorth (talk) 19:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Enchanted (film) peer review
Hi. I recently requested that the article Enchanted (film) be peer reviewed. The semi-automated review is here: Peer_review/Automated/January 2009. I was wondering if you would like to help out in improving the article for a FA nomination. Thanks, Ladida (talk) 03:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Cars characters
Thank you for editing List of Cars characters, but what you did is vandalism, and has been reverted. This is a warning. YouTubeFan124 (talk) 15:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Buzz Saw Falls is proposed for deletion - any comments
You might be an interested party - please reply at that talk page Power.corrupts (talk) 21:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference in "Cars" article
With all due respect, that reference I listed is relevant and I actually listed a reference. If you watch any old Universal show from the 70s, all the vehicles have that "PCE in the licence plate. That's anything but original research and as I pointed out, I had the reference to prove it.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

adding a sock?
what's the process for adding an additional identity to those already confirmed on Sockpuppet investigations/YouTubeFan123? See this edit for one that was missed. Also, is it correct to add any "sock" template to those user's pages ala bambifan101's identities, or is that overkill at this time? SpikeJones (talk) 15:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Just copy the Checkuser template in the Sockpuppet investigations case. You don't have to add the sock template to their userpage necessarily, but it wouldn't hurt. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * SpikeJones - I drifted over here as I was wondering if you were an admin (apparently not) to ask about how to flag User:TheCharmingMan as a potential sockpuppet of, or for, User:JoedyBoston. Both accounts started contributing on 23 January 2009 and jumped into Sfcrowsnest related edits. Are these the accounts you intend to flag or is this about something else? --Marc Kupper|talk 21:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I started reading Sockpuppet investigations and got lost but maybe you can figure it out. :-) Apart from what I noticed above I'll add
 * JoedyBoston only does Sfcrowsnest related edits. There's no rule against that. He/she may well have a strong interest in the site. I don't worry about COI too much as long as someone's edits are NPOV.
 * TheCharmingMan only does Sfcrowsnest related edits but also went beyond NPOV with the removal of the Notability hat from Sfcrowsnest and adding the same hat to SF Site and Locus (magazine). --Marc Kupper|talk 22:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

newt
Hey Spike, someone gave a template that allows us to just refer to the film as newt. If only we had something which could have translate WALL-E to WALL*E consistently across article text and title. Alientraveller (talk) 10:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, let's open a discussion at that page. Alientraveller (talk) 14:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL-- Busted!

 * Sorry for my obnoxious attempt to be funny-- I'm still waiting for re-releases of Aladdin and The Lion King myself!  Strange how those VHS tapes that were so cool during the 20th century now seem as clunky as an LP.  At VHS never skipped.  Best wishes. Mandsford (talk) 15:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Magnificator
there is a request for more information on this case that requires your input. Mayalld (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi
What do you mean by saying 'contestant <> celebrity'?  DRosenbach  ( Talk 19:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm very interested in having a relationship with you that includes no sort of sarcasm -- so just off the bat, I'd like to say that we should be completely civil and expect that this won't spiral into a ghastly argument.
 * I just don't understand how you can say that the Christina Machamer article bears no merit to exist in the face of the hundreds of articles that do exist on pageant winners whose only support derives from 1-3 pageant related citations, as well as the dozens of templates that organize and even over-organize them into categories by state, year and pageant. Thanx.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 02:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Warning
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to the article on Christina Machamer, as you have been doing in the past day or so. Please see the talk page for specifics regarding your recent behavior.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 14:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

No explanation for edit?
I believe that I've made substantive changes responsive to the issues suggested by the autobot, as explained in the edit summary. Please explain why you've undone the autobot removal on the Piper Reese article. I didn't see any dispositive note regarding the change-back. J2K (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

IP vandal
Hey Spike. Dealing with a recurrent IP vandal ... it's the same IP over and over again, and he's gotten blocked at least 3-4 times, all in the same articles. Warnings issued and such, but to no avail. Nobody has responded on WP:AIV, and I don't know if anyone's monitoring that page at the moment. IP is still active, though. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * In best Emily Litella ... "Never mind." IP has been blocked for a year. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The late...
...is never used in any context. Even is someone loses an award to a dead person, it is incorrect for the manual of style. Darrenhusted (talk) 22:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Minor characters on Cars (film)
Wanted to give you a heads-up that someone called Edokter is insisting that the Michael Schumacher Ferrari be included. Skywatcher68 (talk) 17:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Toy Story Midway Mania!
Hey Spike. The IP who changed everything over to "Toy Story Mania" did so again. I left a civil message on the IP's talk page asking them to discuss their changes, especially since consensus has already been reached on this. I doubt the editor will bring anything new to the table in changing the name, but let's see if he/she decides to work with the community instead of against it next time. Just a heads up ... --McDoobAU93 (talk) 13:34, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Christina Machamer
Since when is partial birth information less informative than no birth information? If we intend to obtain and maintain comprehensive information on the many topics included in Wikipedia, we cannot expect to add such information only when all bits and pieces become available. You're being way too stringent -- it's not as though all we have is the 13th of an unknown month! Month and day is just fine until a year is procured.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 14:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What's your beef with this article -- why nitpick? I'm just so interested in knowing...haha.  Are you an alias of Petrozza?  DRosenbach  ( Talk 14:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Because if you are passionate enough about a subject to turn it from a redirect into its own article, then take the time to do it right per WP editorial policies.
 * So you admit to knowingly targeting an article that I edited in order to teach me a lesson? Would this have anything to do with you being a member of the tiny group that proposed re-redirecting?  Quite vengeful and utterly childish, if you're looking for some words to describe that, and while those may not be violations of policy, lack of civility is.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 17:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Then I apologize. Have a good day.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 22:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

flamingo article plagarism
Don't worry about the bad jokes. I had wondered about about of those changes when they were added. Since I could not get a hit online when I looked, I could not act. No problem if the violations are removed. However some of those sections may have been modified so that they are no longer violations. But as I understand policy, since they are based on a violation they will also need to go. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering . ..
Why did you revert my edit to Pixar? UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hearing nothing back (and seeing that it appears you are ignoring notes left on your talk page), I am going to attempt to repeat my same edit. Please do not revert it again without more extensive discussion with me than just an edit summary. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Asian American Character
I did find a referenced review that identifies Russell as Asian American, though it is obvious from the way the character is drawn. The lack of Asian parts is a major Asian American issue, as is on wikipedia the bias towards removing any attempt to establish the notability of Asian American issues. (Asian person murdered, Asian character in movie, etc) I have removed the anonymous speculation, though it supports the notion that Pixar was actually seeking to make the part an Asian child. Thank you. Bachcell (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry
The only adept is Jvvvst? ;-) --Kasper2006 (talk) 23:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but see that incredible situation Animated Features, Computer, for Dave Smith all the Pixar are in this list!!!! --Kasper2006 (talk) 23:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Perceived Personal Attacks
I apologize if you believe I have made any personal attacks on you in the discussion regarding Tinker Bell, or other lists. It was not my desire to attack you personally; I am just trying to create more uniformed and usable lists between the various pages that treat all films equally and appropriately throughout. There appears to be a conflict between how  The Brave Little Toaster and  Tinker Bell are being treated in these lists. I am not sure that the stance that Tinker Bell was not released theatrically is valid, as the resources listed show that it did have a small run with paying customers. While I will admit that there are number of pay-per-view films (of course, one could argue that all films are pay-per-view), most run for one or two performance; not for two weeks in an established theater. Again, though, I apologize if you believe I was attacking you personally.Jvsett (talk) 23:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Combining Talk Discussions Re Disney Film Lists
Dear SpikeJones,  Kasper2006,  Elikrotupos,  Swatsi,   Blitz Lutte,  NealP,  LtPowers,  SofaKing381222,  Collectionian,  Cartoon Boy,   Casey14,  Chris1219,  NuclearWarfare,  SkinnyPrude, and  Parker 1297:

Recently, it appears that you all have been interested in the various Disney discussions regarding the proper categorization of Disney animated films. There has been recent activity regarding the proper structure of the various Disney feature length film lists. Unfortunately the discussions regarding the lists / pages are taken place on a number of talk pages. Before we get further into a long discussion regarding the various structural issues with regards to List of Disney theatrical animated features, Template:Disney theatrical animated features, Walt Disney Animated Classics, Category:Disney animated features canon, List of Disney feature films‎ and what ever other lists are out there, I would suggest that we somehow combine the discussions (both past and present) into one place. This will allow easy review on single page for users interested in this matter. It will also allow future users an easy access to whatever rational is used to support the structure of the various lists (including keeping or merging certain lists.). I believe that in placing this discussion in one central location, it alleviates repetitive discussion, allows issues are not constantly revisited in different locations and hopefully sets the future standard in updating the various lists with the verifiable sources. I honestly do not know if there is Wikipedia policy on this, nor do I know what the proper way of creating such a place. But I do believe it would useful.

I have posted this suggestion on the all the User’s talk pages above and apologize if I have missed any person who may be interested in this matter. If you know of a user interested in this matter, please invite any that person to discuss these issues. .If I have included you and you have no interest in this matter, I sincerely apologize and please delete this message.

cc:

Flair Girls, creator of Template:Disney theatrical animated features

FuriousFreddy, creator of Category:Disney animated features canon

Plainsong, creator of List of Disney feature films‎

Sincerely yours, Jvsett (talk) 04:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to thank you for beginning the page discussion on this issue. Hopefully we can all come to some sort of agreement and get things as well organized as possible.  Jvsett (talk) 04:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Warning: Use of rollback to revert good faith edits
Hi, I'd just like to remind you that rollback without an edit summary should be used for obvious vandalism only, and not to revert good faith edits like this one. Please do not misuse this feature as an administrator may revoke it. Thanks, Laurent (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Laurent (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Disneyland edits
--McDoobAU93 (talk) 02:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

History of the American Hamburger
This page you propose to delete concentrates on the American hamburger. The existing hamburger page contains worldwide/global ingredients, cooking methods, etc. I feel that a page dedicated to the iconic American Hamburger is necessary and is more like a stub. Did you read my explanantion before deleting this page?Tomticker5 (talk) 14:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Would you agree that wikipedia needs a page dedicated only to the U.S. origins of the hamburger and the restaurant?

From Tennis Authority!
Go look at the Boston Globe Slide show before deletion, which is a notable source!Tennis Authority 21:44, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Tennis AfD

 * I'd say it was a faux pas, but nothing drastic. You can see the problems that it poses.  I get a bit overzealous myself, and I think we all do when it comes to Wikipedia.  Tennis Authority probably regrets his "leave it to us experts" comments, but life goes on.  Mandsford (talk) 00:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

98.198.26.42
I have no idea who this person is but thanks for reverting them. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Shonen Jump and Myspace
Hi! Regarding that discussion I started Wikipedia_talk:External_links to get more input. I replied regarding WP:NOT (The section warns against having too large of an external links section, so having 2 external links should not fall foul of this rule) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Federer–Hewitt rivalry
Articles for deletion/Federer–Hewitt rivalry was closed as delete but the close only considered the original nomination Federer–Hewitt rivalry. Other articles were added to the AfD page a day after it opened at a time where many had already commented. They were shortly after removed again. Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Federer–Hewitt rivalry currently shows 5 other articles with AfD tags linking to the closed AfD. At User talk:Sandstein the closer says "These tags should be removed by whoever added them". Please either remove the AfD tags or start a new AfD on another page where all nominated articles are listed from the beginning or before others start commenting. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

do me a favor
you wiped out my entire contribution which I'm ok with (not really because nobody who was editing that section bothered to put down a note either in the talk page, or in the edit summary about the sectional move and I only found out about it later reading the logs.)

in any case..... on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_at_Disney_parks page, add the following cite to the "1974" incident.

http://www.disneypix.com/forums/post/index5/93/Valentines-Day-1974-Mororail-redblue-monorail-collision

thanks Lucky dog (talk) 19:17, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

3rr warning
Since you reverted three times in the Incidents at Disney parks article, this is warning about violating WP:WAR. I'm going to open an RfC. If dispute resolution supports your interpretation of the policy, then this warning will be null and void and I will stand corrected. Cla68 (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So far the RfC comments appear to favor omitting the deceased's name from the article, not for BLP reasons, but because it is inappropriate for that particular article. Other comments may yet come in, but as it stands currently, it doesn't appear that BLP applies, which means that it was a content dispute between me and you and a few others, so the 3rr warning above stands.  The consensus on the content dispute so far, however, is to omit the name.  Unless the tide suddenly turns, for now I concede the point and won't be attempting to reintroduce the name. Cla68 (talk) 00:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I was going to post an RfC, but was going to do it later in the day, my (Japan) time, which probably meant that it would have been the next morning your time (I assume that you're in the US). I was pleasantly surprised when you beat me to it.  I'll leave a comment in the RfC as suggested.  I don't take personally most of the stuff that goes on in here, it's just a website.  Keep up the good work. Cla68 (talk) 03:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

By the way...
By the way, I notice that one of your areas of interest appears to be Disney animated films. I checked the Featured list and noticed that none of Disney's animated film articles are currently rated at featured quality, in spite of the fact that I'm sure that there are plenty of literature about them available, especially on the older classics like Bambi or Cinderella (both of which I have in my personal DVD collection, by the way). I hope you might consider polishing and then submitting one or more of those articles for featured consideration (FAC). If interested, please let me know and I can help out with copyediting and with advice on how to survive the FAC process, since I've been through it a few times. Cla68 (talk) 07:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, if three of the Star Trek and three of the Star Wars movies can make it to featured, with all of the fancruft that I'm sure they attract, then the Disney movies should be able to overcome that also. A quick Amazon search shows that there are plenty of books out there on Disney's animation history, as well as on Pixar.  If you all have an article that you're working on that you'd like to try to get featured, please just drop me a line and I'll try to help out with any final touches that may be helpful. Cla68 (talk) 22:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The Last Song
Hey ... I'm trying to look for something that proves this (right now, only the movie's article says this, and WP isn't a source for itself), but it appears "The Last Song" is a co-production between WD Pictures and Touchstone, so it should be in this list, shouldn't it? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: I have found sources that say it's a Touchstone release, including a press release, and neither mention Walt Disney Pictures. I've edited the movie article and provided the sources, which should hopefully keep the IP at bay. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Whoaman35
Will you help me with this user? He has been making edits to It Ends Tonight that don't conform to WP:CHART and refuses to talk about it on his talk page. Also in general, he tends to own a lot of the The All-American Rejects related articles. BOVINEBOY 2008 20:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

mindplay
I'm just skimming as I try and get all of these assessed. I started with a backlog of several hundred and now I'm down to less then 100. As I scan the articles to rate them, I may tag for cleanup when something catches my eye. And I never claimed to be perfect. :-) Vegaswikian (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

More Lake Dolores
Thank you Spike and Vegas.

LogicallyCreative (talk) 05:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Lake Dolores
Hey Spike --- Some of what you say has merit, however it appears that based upon what I have read on your talk page that you have quite a history of "Heavy Handedness" in your approach to your edits. I also notice a marked pattern of mixing personal opinion with Wikipedia Policy. It's interesting the lengths to which people will go when they sense even a tiny bit of power. Would you like me to cite the thousands of papers written on that very subject as well? Bullies come in all shapes and sizes, Spike. You and 'ol "Vegaswikian" appear to be textbook cases on that very issue. The fact that you had to go to Vegaswikian's talk page to ask for "help" is nothing more than a cyber version of a "gang-up" tactic and does nothing more than further support my contention. I would strongly suggest that you (as well as your cohort "Vegaswikian") tread very carefully not only on this particular article -- but also on all of your future edits of other articles. The evidence I have gathered thus far to support my case is very compelling. I will now be following both of you very closely. Bottom Line: I only care about one thing here -- an even-handed sense of fair play.

By the way -- the aquifer reference needs to stay. Without this aquifer, Lake Dolores would have never happened.

LogicallyCreative (talk) 09:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wanting to be sure I don't misinterpret your comment, I'll summarize: you are calling myself and Vegaswikian bullies for editing an article that you appear to own, and that you strongly suggest that we tread lightly with future edits on other articles as well? That's not a very civil response to edits that were made in an attempt to bring the article in line with WP policies. If my perception of what you've written here is incorrect, please let me know. SpikeJones (talk) 04:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Cowboy and Sugar?
Hey. Have you seen anyone else adding an upcoming release called "Cowboy and Sugar"? It's supposedly a partnership between Pixar and ImageMovers Digital, but I can find no information on either Pixar's or ImageMovers' home pages. Could this be another "Jump in the Dot!" vandal job, or is this legit? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 20:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Saw it was reverted a few times today. Don't think it's related to dot directly. Still, it's not a new edit either.  Besides, you requested that this user be blocked back then as well for the same type of thing. Worth keeping an eye on, for sure. SpikeJones (talk) 21:56, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hell's Kitchen Season 6 Footnotes and chart colors
I am reverting to previous page.. Please see [| Padillah's comment] re- non-participant color in the subsection of the chart color section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlatseg (talk • contribs) 21:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Incidents On Rollercoasters
I have updated this with sources from reputable websites e.g. CNN, BBC and Sky News. However I don;t understand why the girl at disneyland keeps being removed. It has a Sky news source and is a valid story. Ultimatedingbat (talk) 04:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * First, do not re-edit your comments on my page. I'd prefer to read the chain rather than have to go back to re-read what you deleted.  Secondly, the Disney item is on the Disney-related page. If the european parks were owned by a major corp, then that's where the segregation goes.  Thirdly, please try to conform to established editing on those pages: no names, don't link dates, use bullets, be as brief/factual as possible, only include significant items. SpikeJones (talk) 17:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Fingerprinting at Disney
I've edited this entry to reflect your concerns. There has of course been significant media coverage over the fingerprinting issue in the United States, and I've refernced an IHT article to substantiate this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pristine2 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Good question
I've seen this nut job as well. I clicked on the "Geolocate" key at the bottom of one of the IPs and it reverts back to a provider in Dublin, Ireland and it appears to be issued to a Woodford Construction. Bambifan is in Mobile, Alabama...but I'd like to put both on a slow boat to China, if you'll pardon the archaic reference. :) I think a rangeblock is more than warranted and I'll see what I can bring up regarding Woodford Construction.  Please keep me in the loop on this one.  There is nothing worse than a serial vandal, especially single-minded and likely autistic ones like these.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * No problem. I haven't see him specifically, but I'll keep an eye out. Take care. Tiggerjay (talk) 05:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:CITE Hell's Kitchen. season 2
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Dear Spike I fail to see how the citation provided fails to meet WP:CITE guidelines. I have looked over the articles for WP:CITE and WP:Verifiability. The only objections that would seem to apply to me are, 1) self published reference(which is not) or 2) questionable source. Could you please point out to me what specifically your objection is to using the source. Thank you for your assistance here. Tlatseg (talk) 04:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

68.147.200.82
Spike, have you figured this IP out yet? The editor has made some constructive edits, but then lets loose with things like that which you reverted, and similar posts on the talk pages for Hercules and Enchanted. I've left a question on the talk page for the IP, but haven't gotten an answer yet (not that he/she is on a time limit or anything). I do know that I've left warnings and which were promptly deleted by the IP, as shown here. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Update: User was at it again, but now has been blocked for two weeks. Frankly, I'd have gone with a shorter block, since I'd like to think this user just needed a reality check to straighten up and fly right. But at the same time, you had some very solid points in your post back to me. Guess I'm an incurable optimist sometimes ... --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The user is blocked for 2 weeks, but he/she can still edit their talk page. Reasonable I guess, and interesting, considering the edits being made. The user seems to be using their talk page as a sandbox, and is busy playing with the table of Disney Digital 3-D releases. Worth a look, when you get a chance. I get the funny feeling we'll be cleaning up after this one soon after the block is released. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 02:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's my dilemma ... should I leave a message on the user's talk page regarding these edits and his/her intentions for them? Or should I just wait till the block expires and watch what happens? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed ... wait till the block is released and see what happens. However, not sure I knew what you meant regarding the specific revision number I found it ... I'll be on guard. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Latest update: after you cleared out the IP's work on the talk page, he did it again. IP is now blocked for 3 months. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 05:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Nightmare Before Christmas 2009 re-release
Hey Spike ... the IP mentioned where he found the info, and I checked it and a couple of others, and the 2009 re-release is legit. However, I'm not sure how to link it without it being considered a spam link. I'll keep looking at other news sites to verify. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Any ideas how we can add the citation for it, preferably in the main article for the film itself? I would think that movie-ticket purchasing websites should be considered reliable, because if they're wrong there are upset customers. The IP said that Box Office Mojo has the date, too, and I found it there as well. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:02, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I could use some help
I added a reference re: Danny Veltri for Hells kitchen season six and I removed the no references tag and somehow I screwed up the reference. Now there is a no cite error on the page. I was wondering if you could fix? thank you. Tlatseg (talk) 01:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * nevermind I figured out how to do it and fixed it myself. Thanks anywayTlatseg (talk) 01:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Re: cleaning up the other episodes of Hell's kitchen, I have added some info to the third season Re: Heather West in preparation for a possible redirect. I am considering changing my position on whether the article about her should be kept or not. As much as it would gall me. If she came back for a third season then I would think she might just be worthy of her own article.  But you're probably right. She just might not meet the standards of having her own article on wiki. But the article about Dave should be taking care of first.  The article about Christina seems to be too complex of an issue for me to really stick my nose into.Tlatseg (talk) 05:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand.Just give me a little time to work on the redirect please. I am a bit busy and kind of work real slow. Shouldn't take more than two or three days or so I hope. Thank you.Tlatseg (talk) 01:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have moved all the pertinent information regarding Heather West to the Hells kitchen season 2 article. I have included the link to the spotoili article which states that she is currently working at the Monterey restaurant in Long Beach, New York.  I realize the spotonli article is not exactly the New York Times but it seems to be legitimate enough and should satisfy the citation needed requirement requirement. The restaurant website itself makes consistent reference to Heather in its special events section. At this point I basically don't have any objection to a redirect but before you do so please let me know if you have any problems with the contributions I have made to the season two article and I will try to clean it up before-hand.Tlatseg (talk) 05:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Merge discussion for ImageMovers Digital
An article that you have been involved in editing, ImageMovers Digital, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Rob Sinden (talk) 10:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Commentary!
I'm confused as to why you deleted my completely informative contribution. Wolfdog (talk) 03:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Please do not delete my work and then ignore me, You should have discussed with me your problems with what I wrote rather than delete the edits. I asked you to talk to me to explain your issues and you continue not to do so. I'm replacing some of what I wrote. Also, to justify myself, you will notice on most musical pages (see, for example, "In the Heights" or Webber's "The Phantom of the Opera"), there are lists of all the musical numbers, even when there are mentioned in the body text; I am only standardizing this article to be like most musical-related articles. As you now have twice been illuminated, I am willing to talk things out. It is completely inappropriate at this point for you to continue deleting valid work without at the very least writing on the discussion page first. Wolfdog (talk) 23:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Disney clean-up page [Animated Film Article Cleanup]
Hi there SpikeJones. I've been logging in to Wikipedia every once in a while to see where the discussion about the list clean-up was heading, but other than my contribution in October the newest ones are from June and July. It looks like the original page [List of Disney theatrical animated features] is no longer locked but I'd rather not make any changes until someone had argued for or against my case. Would you care to comment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Athinsz (talk • contribs) 16:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Rollercoaster Movie Poster.jpg
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Pixar References
I was not aware this, thought it was another new editor going over board with the citation tag again, which has become too common for my tastes.  Rgood erm  ote    23:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Up (2009 film)
Thanks for clearing up the fact about Muntz's death, bub. I just hope Alandeus understands. WikiLubber (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Yes, it's Tangled, and none other than the US Patent and Trademark Office has confirmed it. A quick search of the trademark "Tangled" found close to 30 recent requests for trademarks, including a number with "Disney Tangled" as the trademark. The applications are for all kinds of consumer products and marketing items, and all registered by Disney Enterprises, Inc. The earliest one I found was requested February 11, 2010. I'm presuming the US Government is a reliable enough source for such things. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of List of Pixar film references
I have nominated List of Pixar film references, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/List of Pixar film references. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 05:03, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete the page. You'd want to speak to User:Cirt, who deleted it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

SeaWorld incident
Thanks for fleshing out the information ... I've gone through a number of related articles trying to remove the incidents and place them into the Incidents at SeaWorld parks article, to maintain consistency with the other theme park articles. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to defend against adding the trainer's name in Incidents at SeaWorld parks using what we learned during the Disney monorail incident last July. You handled that issue remarkably well, so any assistance you can provide would be welcome. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Pixar
I responded on both Cirt's talk page and the review of the deletion.Pejorative.majeure (talk) 02:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

SO Why did you remove the Colby Curtin peice i spent a fair while on?? Do you think I havent got anything better to do as you obviously havent judging by the amount of deleting you do.

The peice was relevant to the company's image not just the film "Up" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.172.102 (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Incidents at SeaWorld parks
I very much appreciate your input in Talk:Incidents at SeaWorld parks. I hope you will continue to input your opinion, since no compromises have been accepted and no consensus has been reached.ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 17:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism warning
Hi! I've seen that you have made several nonconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Just consider this: Many people spend lots of their time here, creating and improving articles for the public's use. Any time that you have the urge to vandalize or delete content, think of all the people that spend their time trying to improve and better the information on Wikipedia. If you feel that you must do something on Wikipedia, instead of vandalizing this information, think of expanding and making it better. Think of this the next time that you hit the Edit this Page button. See also Avoid the word "vandal".

-- Kendrick7talk 05:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Look you are very lucky that I'm Catholic and therefore can't report your vio of WP:3R to WP:AN3. I suggest you stop screwing around and cough up the name of the deceased if it is reflected in the sources forthwith. I could care less about some talk page discussion, this is a matter of verifiable information, and as such WP:5P overrides any number of talking heads. -- Kendrick7talk 05:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You are removing inline tags, whose date is very recent, without bothering to provide the requested information. That is indeed a form of vandalism. -- Kendrick7talk 05:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't. But you both are edit warring, so please stop. - Rjd0060 (talk) 13:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Sea World
You're welcome, glad if I can help. And thank you for being open-minded enough to summarize rationale on both sides. Maurreen (talk) 17:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't read the whole thing, but I believe you. I'm trying to do basically the same thing with the BLP mess, which is taking a lot of my time. Maurreen (talk) 18:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Pixar Template
Hey Spike, I was just hoping I could ask for a more detailed explanation as to this revert. I think I have a good idea why, given that Purcell isn't one of the core employees and is known more for other work, but I just wanted to hear the rationale from you. Thanks! -- Sabre (talk) 17:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, his primary work for Pixar is as one of their screenwriters and character designers for the films, the video game stuff is an extra addition to that rather than the other way around. But that's just to clear up that particular misunderstanding of what he does; I can see your point, seems fair. -- Sabre (talk) 23:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I had a feeling ...
You remember a couple of years ago when we started dealing with a user, Miamiboyzinhere, who kept changing the categories on the Orlando-area attractions, complete with nasty edit summaries? Back then, I had a feeling it might be a bad-hand account to another, User:Averette. Looks like my feelings might have been confirmed. Averette has started making the same types of edits this evening, so we need to start paying attention again, as it's slowly becoming apparent that Miamiboyzinhere was itself a sock. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 05:13, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, I'm all but sure it's the same guy, based on this response to notices regarding his changes to categories. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Commented on both categories. I've frankly had enough of this character. I really need to start the SPI on this one, but I'm curious if it's possible to go that far back (2 years) to determine if Miamiboyzinhere and Averette are indeed one and the same. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 00:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Disney references in Enchanted
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Winnie the Pooh (2011 film)
I reverted your change to make the page a redirect, sinc,e as a film in active production (not pre-production or development, production), the film's article is not in violation of WP:FILM's rules on film notability for future films. Please see the talk page. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 01:20, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Disney Villains
I think that your opinion would be really appreciated in Talk:Disney Villains given that you are a great contributor to the article. Cheers! -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  22:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Newt (film)
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You are now a Reviewer
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Proposed deletion of MindPlay


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New "Incidents at ..." article
Hey Spike. I'm looking at starting up a new article to summarize incidents involving parks and properties operated by Herschend Family Entertainment Corporation, which operates the Ride the Ducks attraction in Philadelphia involved in an incident this week. Any advice or help would be appreciated. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: It's started. I've looked at many of the Herschend parks for lists of incidents, and either (a) their editors purge them out or (b) the company doesn't have that many incidents. I had to Google the one for Dollywood that I added, for example. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 18:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Pirates 4 Casting and information
Why are you putting that Bryson Carvalho as Kales Aswell, when there is NO source that it is true? And also, the information about the film that I have changed is the truth. Disney did plan on filming in the Spring, but they changed it to June(no explanation was given, it JUST happened). And I've read that it's more expensive to film in Hawaii and London, rather than the Caribbean, so all of the Budget cut news are ENTIRELY false. And if you don't believe me, LOOK IN THE SOURCES(because that's where I got my information from). And don't think just because I'm not a user here, that I'm a vandal, I am a user at Pirates Wiki, here's my userpage(so please, trust me on my information. 75.89.207.133 (talk) 22:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm tired of having to explain this to you, but here is my FINAL explanation(unless if you refuse to believe the TRUTH). So either go with what I wrote(which is the TRUTH), or don't bother editing it(because it is YOU who is making that Bruckheimer statement "wishy-washy", as you call it). Look at this excerpt from the cited source for that statement about the 2009 Comic-Con:

Producer Jerry Bruckheimer told us a few weeks back that they were working on a script, but Aviv and Disney are definitely on board as we learned when we discovered that they have plans to be rolling film on the movie as early as next year. '"We're going to shoot 'Pirates 4' in April or May of next year," Aviv told us during our interview. "We are going to release it hopefully in 2011 is the plan." He said that this time they would only be doing one movie this time that would "hopefully be the first of another trilogy." '

Now, if you do NOT believe me about this information(again), READ THIS. Please, I am implore you, this IS the truth(it is not "wishy-washy"). 75.89.207.133 (talk) 01:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I apologize for acting that way, let me explain why it was like it was:

I have always looked at Pirates 4 news, and I hate it when someone doesn't believe that I'm telling the truth about these things(I do admit that I go overboard sometimes, which I am sorry for).

And yes, I'm here to make sure the Pirates film articles are 100% correct(but unfortunately, I don't do any other articles, because I think I'd be WAY more helpful with the information about Pirates 4). And I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant by "wishy-washy" part, I honestly thought you meant that it was all lies(but it really wasn't).

And all I wanted to do to that sentence was to make it clear that Disney(NOT Bruckheimer), wanted to start filming in March or April 2010(as said in the source that the sentence was attached to). And I also wanted to make it clear that they changed the starting date to June 2010(obviously because of the current events). And while we're discussing this as a team, I'd like to point out that ALL the information about the budget cuts are completely false, as said by one of the writers, Terry Rossio(it was basically another internet rumor that went too far).

But I would like it if we should leave the filming section as it is now, which is stating all that has happened after filming started. That way, it won't be filled with rubbish and internet rumors that are obviously false. And thank you for your kindness, and again, I apologize for my behavior on my last post. And for future reference(just to show we're on the same team), if I happen to do anything wrong in this site, here's my userpage and you may email me here(it's the best way to contact me on Pirates Wiki). 75.89.207.133 (talk) 03:12, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome(for my response above). And about getting a username, thank you for the offer, but I'm not too into that, because WP is practically about everything, while my main focus is in the Pirates films(hey, it's my choice). And by the way(not saying "I'm telling" again), anything edit here will 100% be true(and trust me, I know which Pirates 4 news is true and which are false). By the way, in case if things happen again, my IP address may change from time to time(I dunno, I just noticed that sometimes with my edits), but you'll know it's me if it 75.-something(that's all I know to do if you need to know if it's me). Have a great day, and safe editing. 75.89.207.133 (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine. I will make an account, if it means so much to Wikipedia. But before I do, I have a few conditions:

1. No one is to ruin my future edits, unless if necessary(like "if" there is something I overlooked in my sources, which I usually don't).

2. I'm not going to be a huge part of the Wikipedia, I'm only going to correct false information into what is written IN the source(like with the whole "Bruckheimer confirmed this at SDCC", when he actually didn't).

3. I don't want any more talk of "you can't do this" and all that stuff. Because you and everyone else on WP probably don't understand that you need me(at least for the POTC 4 article). Because without my assistance, your article would just be full of lies, at least the production section would(obviously you'll get the plot and the cast right).

Now, those are my conditions of making an account. And as "you guys" think, I don't care what you think either, because I know that I know more than you guys about this information(you guys either have to get use to it, or just forget it). I apologize if it looks like what I did on my first message, but it had to be said. Have a good day. 75.89.207.133 (talk) 17:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of MindPlay
I have nominated MindPlay, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/MindPlay. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. me_and (talk) 14:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

User:Disneyfolly2
Don't you think it's kind of silly to continue to revert another editor without discussing it with them? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 02:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Pixar film references for deletion
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List of Pixar film references
Just thought you'll like to know that the deletion of List of Pixar film references is being reviewed at Deletion review/Log/2010 October 12. Feel free to comment on it. JDDJS (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Pixar film references for deletion
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Nomination of Incidents at Walt Disney World Resort for deletion
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New image for the Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides article
Greetings, I am new to uploading images in WP, but I just have to ask: how do you do it(like with licensing and all that)? Because I would like to donate this image, as seen in Comingsoon.net and many other websites, as the main image in the Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides article. CJS2.0 (talk) 01:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So, should we use a similar image from some other website, or should we wait until Disney releases a main logo that we can use? CJS2.0 (talk) 05:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see what you mean now. I apologize for asking of this, considering I have a HUGE fear of breaking the copyright law(which is why I ask of these things before I do them). But I cringe at thinking that while the article says "it will be released on May 20, 2011", the main image says "Summer 2011". I know, it's a small issue...but I just thought I should ask about that image, just in case. CJS2.0 (talk) 09:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Program lists
There's a precedent that such lists are acceptable. All it needs is sourcing. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Uh-oh
We've got a user who is reopening the classic Orlando vs. Lake Buena Vista argument. I've already had to revert nearly a dozen articles he changed. I left a message on his talk page, so I don't know what the user will do in response. -- McDoob AU  93  04:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Disney live-action shorts
As you were previously involved at Talk:List of Disney theatrical feature films, I thought you might be interested in User talk:DoctorHver. --Mepolypse (talk) 11:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Incidents at independent parks for deletion
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WikiProject Disney Role Call
-- Groovy Sandwich  23:39, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Disney feature films
Hello, because you are an active editor on List of Disney theatrical feature films, I come to ask you for assistence on that very same article. Apparantly some editor (not official, can only be identified by an IP address) altered the article in a drastic way. The studio credits have been removed, and it would be difficult for myself alone to find and add them again. I would gladly appreciate your help in helping me resolve this matter. Thank you, ~ Jedi94  (talk) 21:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I just viewed the article mentioned above - never mind, it's been fixed ~ Jedi94  (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Amusement park accidents template
Hey, I'm starting a convo at Template talk:Amusement park accidents that, as the template creator, I would like to hear opinion about. Thanks. • Freechild talk 01:15, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

New image
Could you possibly find a new image of finding nemo submarine voyage. thanx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.130.224.15 (talk) 19:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Act of God
I wanted to let you know why I reverted a recent edit you made at Amusement park accidents. An Act of God is typically defined as an "extraordinary" event by a natural cause. Typical examples are floods, tornados, hurricanes, or something that results in a major accident. Slipping and falling wouldn't usually "fall" into this category (pardon the pun). Often when such events result in injury, the injured sue in court filing a claim against another party they deem responsible. The court will usually rule in favor if it is determined to be negligence on the part of the defendant, or they will rule against if it's determined to be negligence on the part of the plantiff. An "Act of God" wouldn't come into play in these circumstances. More importantly, this article doesn't currently contain any Act of God listings. So at the moment, it's not necessary to include Act of God as one of the bulleted items. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Pixar film references for deletion
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Texas Giant incident
I reverted your recent edit at Incidents at Six Flags parks. Multiple reliable sources confirm the statements made by the eyewitness, and it should be acceptable to include it until we have more information from the investigation. We are assigning credit for the claim to the eyewitness, which is supported by the cited refs. The revised statement you proposed, "there may have been issues with the ride's restraint system not being securely locked" is not supported by these references. In fact, one of the references states that a family waiting behind the victim in line believes the restraints went down normally and when the coaster returned, the restraint was still down. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, it turns out a tweet from one of the riders supports the claim that the restraint may have released during the ride. One of the original refs was updated by the publisher to reflect that, and a new ref altogether was added to the article as well also confirming the tweet. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:52, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:SpikeJones/Top Five
User:SpikeJones/Top Five, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:SpikeJones/Top Five and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of User:SpikeJones/Top Five during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:08, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for mentioning it. SpikeJones (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Global account
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ArbCom elections are now open!
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RFC notification
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