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AlisonW case request accepted
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Abubakarr Multi-Kamara
I originally requested deletion of this article in main space. I then realised that Multi-Kamara was a recipient of the Grand Commander of the Order of the Rokel and believe that this significant award/honor actually pushes the bio over WP:ANYBIO. I informed the user who deleted the article immediately and they said that the deletion could not be undone right away, but I could go through the draft route to create the article again. I was therefore surprised that my draft request was declined with the rationale "Requested deleted by author", as I thought this was clear from the outset. Uhooep (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * It wasn't clear, sorry! I was actually in the process of accepting it, but when you do that, it shows you how many times the page has been deleted before and I saw the recent AfD discussion and figured there was some sort of error going on. If you want to re-submit, let me know here and I'll accept it to mainspace. You may also want to put your version of the page's history on the talk page just so it doesn't get quickly sent to AfD again. SportingFlyer  T · C  10:27, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I put in a second request. Thanks. Uhooep (talk) 12:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * done. SportingFlyer  T · C  12:18, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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Pioneer League Roster Deletion Removal
Hey @SportingFlyerI wanted to ask if you could remove the deletion discussion prompt on the Pionner League Rosters page, it seems the discussion is gone in the talk page so I think we can remove it. I would just prefer someone who has done it before to do it so I don’t cause more problems then I already have lol. ParkerLyme (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately neither of us can withdraw the AfD since we didn't start the AfD, and someone will need to close the discussion first. The nominator will have to withdraw it. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

suspected biographies
Regarding [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)&diff=prev&oldid=1164341916 this comment]: did you mean something like "suspected violations of the biographies of living persons policy"? isaacl (talk) 22:09, 8 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Just any poorly created BLP, since all of these are only sourced to statistical databases. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It might be helpful to clarify; right now it reads "are we going to treat suspected biographies of living persons differently?" isaacl (talk) 22:40, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Proposed decision posted for the AlisonW case
The proposed decision for the AlisonW case has been posted. Statements regarding the proposed decision are welcome at the talk page. Please note that comments must be made in your own section. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

NK Inker Zaprešić
Redirect has been deleted. Please go ahead and accept the draft. - Whpq (talk) 00:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW closed
The arbitration case Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW has been closed, and the final decision is viewable at the case page. The following remedy has been enacted:


 * For failure to meet the conduct standards expected of an administrator, AlisonW's administrative user rights are removed. She may regain them at any time via a successful request for adminship.

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LEN Euro Cup 2022–23
Hi. I have finished editing the rest of the 2022–23 LEN Euro Cup. I have also put in more third party sources. Can it finally be approved? Or the review already going on? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 22:46, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I've accepted the draft. The references you added weren't clear on whether the tournament was notable for a normal Wikipedian, so I went ahead and added a couple more sources to make sure the article would be less likely to get deleted as well. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. I've been working really hard to improve and create articles on European club water polo. I'm so happy that my hard work has paid off. After I made an article for the 2022 Super Cups and 2022–23 LEN Challenger Cup, it means that there's an article on every European club Water polo competition for last season. Thanks and I couldn't be happier. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 23:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * For the future look for local newspaper articles to demonstrate notability, and consider writing a bit about the tournament if you can. The only issue is that Wikipedia looks to see if people have taken note of these tournaments, which is clearly the case in the countries where it's played, but at AfC if it's just sourced to the competition's website I can't move it out of draftspace because it might be immediately deleted. Hope that helps. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I know. I didn't originally start this article, but I will use your advice for the future and when I start articles from scratch, I will try and have articles from different languages and write a bit about the tournament. Thanks ILoveSport2006 (talk) 23:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Tokyo Disney Celebration Hotel
Thank you very much for reviewing my Tokyo Disney Celebration Hotel article. I've placed a few more Japanese references I found to the article so it can hopefully be approved. If you are able to take another look I would appricate it or if you have any further suggestions please let me know. Thanks Otchiman (talk) 11:04, 30 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't know Japanese but I'll take another look soon when I have a chance to machine translate them. If I forget after a few days, please re-ping me. SportingFlyer  T · C  10:20, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

4. Liga (Slovakia)
if you want help parsing slovak sources there, i can help as im native Slovak Michael H (talk) 14:34, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan SG
Hello, you have said here that you will re-open the discussion and notify the people on Wikiproject Football. Any plans to do so? TheWikiholic (talk) 02:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, I was making a suggestion to whoever closed that discussion, not suggesting I would do it myself, sorry. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

2023 Pecos League season
Hey, @SportingFlyer I was wondering if it would be okay if I took over and tried to fix the 2023 Pecos League season draft someone else made or if I could just start from scratch with it. I created the 2022 season one and several other Independent baseball league season pages. Something came up so I did really have the time to make the 2023 one for the Pecos League. I know the season is almost over but I would still like to do it for the season so if makes it easier for access to fans of the league. It wouldn't take me a long time. Wanted to hear your opinion on it. I would appreciate it! No problem at all on my end - the draft just needs independent secondary sources. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:57, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @SportingFlyer I did fix and update the 2023 Pecos League Draft and tried my best to make it the best it could be if you could review it for submission I would be so happy!
 * I hope it works and is up to standard! ParkerLyme (talk) 06:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please find one or two more sources that aren't the league website? Not trying to be difficult but want to make sure your work doesn't get deleted. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It’s okay but I am a bit confused because I thought I did add secondary sources with rdrnews.com, timesherald, pointstreak, and oursportscentral
 * I thought those would suffice but if they don’t do you have any recommendations on where I should add secondary sources ParkerLyme (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Aha. Pointstreak was just statistics and OurSportsCentral may not be reliable for notability purposes. And something like this is probably too short. Maybe look at Tucson papers? SportingFlyer  T · C  16:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Abbot Public Library
The mainspace redirect Abbot Public Library was deleted several days ago. Please complete the AfC acceptance. Thanks. * Pppery * it has begun... 12:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Done. Apologies, I wasn't notified and haven't checked my CSD log for a few days SportingFlyer  T · C  12:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:2023–24 Danish 3rd Division
This season is on going, and is like the page from last season, 2022–23 Danish 3rd Division regards referacens. is it updatet by every round like Danish Superliga og Premier League in UK. 212.112.153.103 (talk) 08:57, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback
Thank you for your feedback on my first draft at an entry! It was very objective and easy to understand. I look forward to improving my work based on the insight you provided. I hope you have a great day. Thank you for the help and the work you do to make knowledge accessible. ArtWriter513 (talk) 15:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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Request on 04:43:33, 4 September 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Dogsbrunch
Howdy! I'm willing to continue working on this article as it will become the authoritative source on this previously under-reported military program. Let's go item by item to get this rolling! First, and perhaps most importantly, I believe this subject to be notable. Can you please explain your reasoning against this, and let me know what I can do to ensure that it meets the notability guidelines? Thanks!

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 * I didn't think the article would necessarily be kept at a deletion discussion. The Dyson references aren't necessarily bad but he's the author of note on three of the four references, and it's not clear if he's the only person who has ever discussed the project at length. The fourth reference was only a couple sentences long and did not seem like significant coverage to me, though it can definitely be used as a reference in the article, just not to establish notability. Notability here works based on whether secondary sources have discussed the topic in a way that we don't have to do any original research, so the way to improve this would be to find additional independent, secondary references which discuss the topic at length - you probably only need one or two more. SportingFlyer  T · C  17:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks for your guidance. It's hard to find ANY references to this project, and certainly not in one place. I'll seek additional sources and re-submit. Thanks again! Dogsbrunch (talk) 00:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Canadian Lacrosse League
Hi, I resubmitted the Draft:Canadian Lacrosse League adding eight (8) additional reliable sources including two (2) national Canadian publications... other pages have far less. At a loss of what to do. Faaksee (talk) 00:50, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't see it yet unfortunately. A lot of it is just press releases, I don't even really understand what the CLL is reading the article - is it a major junior league? An organisation? An arm of Canadian lacrosse? Something which deals with broadcast rights? If you could get secondary sources which talk specifically about the org that would clear things up a lot I think. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

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AFC Welwyn
Hello,

Thanks for your help and advice with the draft article for the English non-league football club AFC Welwyn. I have added some further links to other media articles and interesting information.

I based the format of the wiki page on the other football clubs in the same league, who all have their own pages. (example: Codicote FC).

Because AFC Welwyn has only been playing for one season, it is difficult to find many media stories. I also have a logo to upload, but wiki will only let me do this once the page is moved from "draft".

I have resubmitted, but any further advice gratefully received.

Thank you Sparkytoes (talk) 08:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I've looked at it again but haven't declined it again. Unfortunately as you say it's a new club, so they haven't really been mentioned much in secondary sources, which is a requirement for Wikipedia - I'm not trying to be difficult but I don't want to see your work deleted. My best advice is to hold on to the draft and see if they generate any more coverage - 11th tier can be difficult though, and it's possible some of the other clubs in the league wouldn't survive a deletion discussion. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Very helpful.  I will continue to add to the page as more reports are published. Maybe a resubmission at the end of the season might work, especially if there is news of a promotion. Sparkytoes (talk) 08:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

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Procedural question
I don't think it matters much who challenges the close because the question isn't "is my interpretation/argument about the RFC correct", it's "is the close reasonable." You can provide your reasoning as to why the closure wasn't a reasonable reading of the discussion, but it doesn't matter much of that's the opening statement or in a statement later. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm just frustrated because the people responding so far are reviewing in the context of the opening statement, which is completely different to the reason why I think the close was wrong. In any case it's potentially created a much larger problem for the project than anyone has anticipated considering we're here after only one table was removed. SportingFlyer  T · C  01:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

MLBd
Your comment here might need some clarification. Paired with oppose, it seems to mean "There's no evidence that MOS:CAPS is met in this case at all", but is worded as if to mean "There's no evidence the MOS:CAPS guideline covers this subject at all". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sigh, my comment signified pretty much exactly the amount of time I wanted to spend on the situation.
 * SportingFlyer  T · C  17:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Italy v North Macedonia
Could you please explain why it is not acceptable? 14 novembre (talk) 19:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure. Articles on games need to show why they had a lasting impact, while that was an important match it was not a final or other noteworthy game with a lasting impact yet. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @SportingFlyer Should I add more sources? 14 novembre (talk) 22:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If so, of any specific kind? Thank you very much and kind regards 14 novembre (talk) 22:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Any source that was written a long time after the game would be what I would be looking for personally. SportingFlyer  T · C  10:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks and kind regards 37.162.165.249 (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

requesting administrative privileges
Some critics of the optional RfA candidate poll have said they don't see any advantages that couldn't be achieved more effectively through other means. I was wondering if you had some concerns about asking one of the frequent administrator candidate nominators for feedback? You can get a sense from their track record how dialed in they are to community sentiment. I appreciate it can be tricky to take an unbiased look at your own record. Nonetheless, have you attempted to see how you measure up based on the various concerns that users have raised at RfA?

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 * Thanks for the response. I used to be more interested in potentially becoming an admin, and there's definitely times on here where it would be helpful to have the mop. I understand the concerns about a trial run, but my sense is RfA is considered toxic for the edge cases: people opposing on specific grounds which may not have been vetted, where the candidate doesn't have the chance to respond directly. It's also somewhat intimidating to reach out and say this is something I'm interested in. I'd be more interested if there was a more streamlined intake process. I'm not entirely sure what that looks like, but a straw poll, where a potential candidate can receive and accept feedback, is something I'd definitely be interested in, and I don't think reaching out to an admin or two would necessarily prepare someone for an RfA. Perhaps I'm jaded.
 * In any case though I appreciate your response and you reaching out. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the reply which helps me get a better sense of your concerns. Some of the common administrator candidate nominators will work with you to prepare you for your RfA. They're friendly and from what I can tell, relish the opportunity to assist a new promising candidate. Not sure what you mean by a "streamlined intake process"; either you contact one of them, or they contact you if they come across your edits and think you're worth encouraging.
 * A full trial run is asking 100+ users to duplicate their vetting efforts. There will be some who will tell candidates "why didn't you just proceed with an actual request". I'm less certain but I think there will be some who will tell candidates who skipped a trial run "please do a trial run first". In a world where users have boundless effort to devote to Wikipedia, it would help provide a smoother transition to being an administrator, but I highly suspect in practice that it would be too large of an imposition. Getting feedback from users (who don't have to be admins) that are experienced in evaluating and nominating candidates will, in my view, result in much of the same benefits. isaacl (talk) 17:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the Monday laugh
That IP address looks like a duck wearing socks anyways. from Articles for deletion/Bettina Rodriguez Aguilera was the perfect answer to Daylight Savings Monday. Have a good one! Star  Mississippi  12:31, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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John Tran
Hi, do you think you would vote to delete the page John Tran if you saw it in an AfD? I asked on another editor's talk page weeks ago with no response. I ask only because I am unsure if it meets WP:NPOL #2 and I'd rather avoid another Paul Richards if possible. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I just took a quick glance and I'm not sure. There looks to be more on Richards. SportingFlyer  T · C  17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Political candidates
I agree with you, but it can be a futile task to debate the long term notability of a political candidate in the middle of election season in the US. It may be better to wait until the election is in the rear view mirror to discuss notability and in the meantime, patrol the article for policy violations. - Enos733 (talk) 04:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Closure review for the RfC on lists of airlines and destinations
I wanted to be honest with you regarding the RfC closure review in January and say that yes, I had noticed the discussion that you and others were having on A. B.'s talk page. I'm sorry for plotting against your plan to challenge the close. I had spoken to A. B. about this on their talk page and should've contacted you, too. Sunnya343 (talk) 21:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Wide Right II draft
I believe the Chiefs going on to win the Super Bowl shows an “lasting impact” that could justify the page. 131.247.224.203 (talk) 20:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

AfD closure
I wanted to let you know that I was thinking of going to DRV regarding the closure of the AfD on lists of airline destinations, though I'd be arguing for Delete all. Sunnya343 (talk) 02:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I should've asked, would you be interested in starting a review instead? Sunnya343 (talk) 04:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I thought Liz made an excellent and well-reasoned close given the circumstances, and am less adamant about keeping all of this information than I am about the information on airport pages, so feel free to proceed however you see fit. SportingFlyer  T · C  05:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, I have posted a request for deletion review. Sunnya343 (talk) 18:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)