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Ways to improve Elizabeth Dubois
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 * @user:Abishe Thanks, and done. SportsOlympic (talk) 14:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Lorry Knudsen
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Kloudova vs Vavrova
Hello SportsOlympic. I see that you created a redirect from Marcela Vavrova to Marcela Kloudova. Because of the merging of the profiles at Speedskatingnews.info. But the update there at Speedskatingnews.info are coming from Preben Gorud Petersen (just asked him through a norwegian speed skating forum at facebook) and he is still keeping them apart as two separate speed skaters since the merging have no other sources than it is a possible same skater but no clear sources that says so. So I would like to see clearer source that this is the same skater and not just an assumption that it is. BTW. I will not merge these profiles at norwegian wikipedia yet, and will wait for more sources. Best regards Migrant (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Anything to say at the discussionpage for Marcela Kloudova, Talk:Marcela Kloudová ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 07:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @Migrant, thank you for your time and explanation. I understand what you mean. Do you advice that I also create a seperate article on the en-wiki? SportsOlympic (talk) 07:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm, not sure how to do that in an article, but anything to explain the different sources maybe... but you are of course responsible for your edits. Best regards Migrant (talk) 07:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

External link-template
Hello SportsOlympic. I just want to inform you that there are an external link-template for sports-biographies called Sports links which can be used in the section for external links. Best regards Migrant (talk) 18:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @Migrant, again thanks! I will take a look at it. I'm planning to create a few hundreds more female speed skating articles this year. I already created many articles of skaters who competed at the early World Allround Speed Skating Championships or won a medal at the Norwegian Allround Championships (including around 25 Norwegian) :) SportsOlympic (talk) 07:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @Migrant Yes, this template is awesome! Used it in the new article Kari Kristiansen. Thanks, and let me know if you have more suggestions. SportsOlympic (talk) 07:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

BTW. This link-template needs of course a linked item at wikidata with id's that are listed in the template. Otherwise it wont work, like the one at Sylvia Karlsson. Best regards Migrant (talk) 09:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Migrant, yes I understand. Once I've got the notice the article has been added to Wikidata, I add the identifiers there. Like I did for Nina Avdonina. SportsOlympic (talk) 09:58, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * O, and by-the-way, maybe you know. I noticed at speedskatingstats.com all the day of births of all skaters are not visible. Do you know how to find them? For instance for Sylvia Karlsson: link? SportsOlympic (talk) 10:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If the birthday is not published it is okay just include what the sources say, so if it only gives the birthmonth, then use the birthmonth. You mean this link for Sylvia Karlsson at Speedskatingstats.com/Schaaatsstatistieken.nl. You can of course add the wikipedia-article to Wikidata yourself if you know how to do it.
 * For the best database of personal records I would prefer the Speedskatingbase.eu-website, since the Speedskatingnews.info isn't complete and in some cases uses the best times that are registered in an event they have.
 * Here is a list of useful speedskatingdatabases that I'm using myself:
 * www.Speedskatingbase.eu for personal records and month-year of birth (Dutch-based database).
 * SpeedSkatingNews.info for speed skater profiles (Germany-based database with some international help).
 * www.SpeedSkatingStats.com (English) / www.schaatsstatistieken.nl (Dutch) for results and (month-)year of birth if known (Dutch-based database) The dutch-database are a mirror the english one but the dutch-language base have more on the dutch skaters and also the dutch championships.
 * SpeedskatingResults.com for newer profiles/results from 2006/07-season (USA-based database most probably Salt Lake City, Utah).
 * Jakub Majerski's speedskating database for personal records and birthdays (Polish-based database).
 * Biographies på www.isu.html.infostradasports.com.
 * See also the Results-database for older profiles at the same website which is the website for International Skating Union.
 * www.The-Sports.org for some results and profiles, this database has several language-versions. Some results are incomplete since some skaters didn't finish their races or other reasons and therefore are not included. There are also some profiles with several profiles because of name spellings, and of course from different sports.
 * Please don't rely on one source alone, be critical of each source, judge them by their specialty and focus and what's not their specialty or focus.
 * And of course there are also the Sports-reference.com, Olympic.org and OlympicChannel.com websites for olympic athletes.
 * There are also some good sources for national championshipsresults and international championship participation at the respective national speed skating associations. Happy Easter from Migrant (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use the Speedskatingbase.eu skater ID also at the Wikidata-item for speed skaters. The Speedskatingbase.eu- list of personal records ar usually even more correct than the Speedskatingnews.info -list of personal records since the latter one aren't complete and may miss some results which could include personal bestresults. See also my above list of other good Speedskating-related websites. By the way, the hundreds of a second wasn't in use back in the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, 1950's or 1960's, it came along in the beginning of the early 70's. Best regards Migrant (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for your long reply. Thank you so much! I see at Speedskatingbase not as many results as at speedskatingnews, so I used speedskatingnews for the personal records. But I will check if I can use speedskatingbase as well. For the national championships I'm also using speedskatingnews as it looks like itç complete. And it's not that the day of births is published, but they are all hidden by the website, and can't be found (anymore).. SportsOlympic (talk) 06:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The Speedskatingbase.eu-website are only listing personal bests for each skater and also provides ranking lists over best races per distance all over or just per national association (although for former countries that is not always correct since it is not always used correct nation for instance RUS vs URS and so on). So no actual eventresults list at that site.
 * For a few selected national championsships results look at these pages:
 * For Sweden: Svenska Skridskoförbundet — Nationell statistik (page is in swedish)
 * For Finland: Suomen Luisteluliitto — Pikaluistelu – Suomen mestarit (page is in finnish)
 * For the Soviet Union: Общество Нержавого Конька: Статистика (по сезон 1998/1999 включительно) (archived pages is in russian)
 * For Norway: Norges Skøyteforbund — Hurtigløp / Statistikk (page is in norwegian)
 * Happy wikiediting, best regards Migrant (talk) 13:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Some updates: I believe that the profile of Nina Avdonina and Nina Jasasjina are the same speed skater, more than the dispute.
 * And another national championshipsresultspage, this time for Hungary Magyarország Gyorskorcsolyázó Bajnokságai — "Nemzeti Bajnokságok" : Bajnokai és dobogós helyezettjei (page is in hungarian)
 * Still happy wikiediting, best regards Migrant (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes that’s possible, but not mentioned in one of the references.. :( We should see Russian results with al names in Russian. I didn’t check the Russian website yet. While creating articles I have doubts about more people who might be the same; for instance Norwegian Margit Fossaas and Margit Lauritsen. I will think about these cases and how to deal with it. Thanks! You also happy editing :D SportsOlympic (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Until further notice I would keep the two Margit's apart as two separate profiles/biographies. See this norwegian discussion at facebook. Best regards Migrant (talk) 00:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for showing the discussion! Yes, I will keep them apart. Why do you think Nina Avdonina and Nina Jasasjina are the same skater? SportsOlympic (talk) 11:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * See these two facebook-threads about the subject thread no. 1 and thread no. 2, sorry to say that they are in norwegian, but they show pictures of a Nina Avdonina in 1950 and Nina Jasasjina in 1953 and they look alike and there are no known overlapping results by last name in the results timeline. (But as you say I would of course like a better russian source for this. I don't understand russian language, more than I can get from google-translate, which is not that good of course.) The overlapping results by last name in the results timeline are not the case in Marcela Kloudová vs Marcela Vávrová. Best regards Migrant (talk) 11:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC) — ; strikes thru a not-word that was falsely included in the previos edit. Best regards Migrant (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Zofia Nehringowa
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Speedy deletion of User:SportsOlympic/sandbox3


The page User:SportsOlympic/sandbox3 has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  Spencer T• C 18:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I was gathering information for a new article. I was doing the rewriting from bunches of info I found on the web. Is it possible to get the urls back and the info I wrote down please? SportsOlympic (talk) 18:40, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have restored the page at User:SportsOlympic/sandbox3. Best,  Spencer T• C 20:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks! Just see it now. I’ll just make sure tomorrow it won’t be necassary for Speedy deletion! SportsOlympic (talk) 22:00, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * My apologies again for the misunderstanding. Best,  Spencer T• C 22:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * no worries, you’re doing a great job! Thanks for restoring. I deleted already most of the subjective information. Will continue later. SportsOlympic (talk) 22:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

MOS:HYPOCORISM
The Manual of Style is absolutely unconditional on this matter: "If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name". "Rik" is clearly a diminutive of "Frederik", and must not be included in the opening sentence. WWGB (talk) 11:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I know it’s common in the UK that everybody who is called Kim, is officially Kimberly and everybody who is called Lizzy is Elizabeth etc. That is not the case in the Netherlands. That’s why there is written “If a person has a common English-language hypocorism”. Rik and Frederik (without ck) is clearly Dutch; and not English. SportsOlympic (talk) 12:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge
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Hilkka Vahervuori moved to draftspace
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 * Added an old newspaper as source. SportsOlympic (talk) 09:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Deaths in 2020
Hello, when you add people to the Deaths in 2020 page, please note that they should be in alphabetical order under each day. Thank you. --Marbe166 (talk) 23:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes I know. I add almost every day people to the list. Must have made a mistake. Sorry for that! Thanks for letting me know. SportsOlympic (talk) 08:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Translations
Hi SportsOlympic, I notice you have created some articles here which are translations on the articles on the Dutch Wikipedia, but without noting this in the edit summary or on the talk page of the article (e.g. Roland Phleps, Radboud van Beekum. Please see WP:TFOLWP for an explanation of what you have to do in these cases. Note that this is mandatory, we have to attribute the original creators of content, even for a translation. Could you please go back to articles you translated (partially or completely) and add the necessary indications? And of course for future such creations, please do this from the start.

On another note, here you are wrong, whether a page is translated or not has no bearing on the need for sources here, on enwiki. Furthermore, until then Martine Crefcoeur had no indication at all that it was a translated page in the first place. Fram (talk) 11:41, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hi, and thank you for noticing me and screening my articles! About Roland Phleps and Radboud van Beekum, you say "without noting this in the edit summary or on the talk page"; but it's mentioned on the talk page. But yes, I didn't mention it in the edit summary. Will mention it in future articles. If you have more feedback, let me know. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You're right, it does. That template is really easy to miss, but that's not your fault, I should have given it a second look. Fram (talk) 13:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , no problem, and indeed it's small. Thank you for being keen on it! That's a great value for Wikipedia. Speaking about translating, I just created Bas Brederode using the Special:ContentTranslation (first time I used it). However, after publishing it, there is not an indication that the page is translated (and not a warning that it should be mentioned somewhere). If you see the edit summary, it's not clear the page is translated from the Dutch WP. So (almost) all pages that are already or will be created with this tool, won't have the correct translation indication. SportsOlympic (talk) 13:41, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Fokje van der Velde
You may want to check date of birth for van der Velde.-- Dewritech (talk)  14:13, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! I fixed it. It was wrong in the infobox. Thanks for noticing, SportsOlympic (talk) 14:18, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Zofia Nehringowa
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Speedy deletion nomination of Ko Kwang-za


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Ko Kwang-za moved to draftspace
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 * To clarify, I did see the newspaper article, but it only mentions her in a list of contestants, and does not offer significant coverage of her. --MrClog (talk) 11:02, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Don’t move it to the draft space, but if you don’t agree put it up for AfD. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:03, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, if you contest the draftification, I'll move it back and nominate it at AfD. --MrClog (talk) 11:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't move it back due to some technical restrictions; I'm looking for someone to move it for me. --MrClog (talk) 11:09, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying it. Or just wait for the redirect to be speedy deleted, and it is possible to move it back. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:15, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Or before/next to putting it up for AfD, you can give your general opinion at the current proposal regarding to speed skaters notability at WP:Notability_(sports). Thanks, SportsOlympic (talk) 11:49, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ko Kwang-za for deletion
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Articles tagged with orphan and underlinked templates
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 * Yes I understand the Orphan tag here. The Template:Underlinked tag is about articles needing additional internal links to the existing text. If there is no link at the page, use Template:Dead end in stead of Template:Underlinked. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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Ko Kwang-za World ranking info
Hello SportsOlympic. I just saw that you expanded the speed skater biography of the North-Korean speed skater Ko Kwang-za, with this sentence: ″In December 1969 she set her 500m personal best in her home country in Pujon and with this time of 45,3 seconds she was fourth in the 500m season world ranking list.″ but that is not entirely correct, since it is a dated rankinglist at the time of the season so the rest of the season are not included yet. The end of the season ranking is at ''[http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/50/50700405.shtml 5. april 1970: Sesongslutt 1970] (title translated to: 5 April 1970: End of Season 1970'') and that one shows she just fell out of top-30 in the 500 meter-ranking. So please look at the date for those articles at Ortygia.no. Best regards Migrant (talk) 11:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the info. Good to know, I added it to the article. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

About the same article I see that you also added an image of a group of speed skaters, but I think now that it is not depicting the correct skaters mentioned. I would disregard the added text on commons related to the linked picture there and that is a picture of 3 recognised dutch female skaters and when I look at it, the fourth you seem to have identifies as Ko Kwang-za are rather another dutch female skater with the name of Wil Burgmeijer which also participated at the same event. And it would also to me be a little awkward to picture 3 dutch speed skating ladies with their coach/trainer and a North Korean speed skater who came dead last in the competition and leave out the forth dutch skater in the team ? What do you think of this ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 12:23, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * To be clear, I didn't identify her. That was done by the press (Ron Groot) at the time, donated from the "Nationaal Archief" at Wikipedia. But yes, I also wondered why she is on the image. And I see certain differences between the persons, Wil Burgmeijer and the one left on the image. SportsOlympic (talk) 12:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see my previous answer was very short, as I didn't have much time. I started doing my homework, studying the images. Several captions are not correct, I notice for the ones where " nummer X" is mentioned in the title. For instance this one. So yes, you are right that the image is not Ko Kwang-za. But I noticed that every person is wearing a number. Also, the same person is wearing the same number over the different days. The numbers are sorted by country.


 * NETHERLANDS: Kaiser: 22, Geijssen: 23, Schut: 24, (So Burgmeijer (NED): 21 or 24?)
 * SOVIET UNION: Skoblikova: 34, Stenina: 33, Sablina: 37
 * NORTH KOREA: Kim Song-sun: 19, Ko Kyung-hi: 21. (The lady with number 20 has no name --> Han Pil-hwa, or Ko Kwang-za; the other skater is on this image as she has different laces as the other three.

Now the question: is there a logic regarding the numbers within one country? It not in alphabetical order of the name, or surename. So probably the order how the skaters are entered, decides the number. With the entrants list in a newspaper here, this looks liks the order. So that means Burgmeijer (NED) had number 25, Han Pil-wha (North-Korea) number 18, Ko Kwang-za number 20, Kauniste (Soviet Union) number 35, Egorova (Soviet Union) number 36,

So is Ko Kwang-za and  is Han Pil-hwa. Lasma Kauniste (Soviet Union).

Thanks, will take a look at if further later. SportsOlympic (talk) 15:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Wrong source
You added the wrong source to Jerzy Łapiński when you created his article. Instead, you added a source about Bhabani Charan Pattanayak's death. I replaced the source, but next time could you be more careful about which source you add? Thanks, Poydoo can talk and edit 16:37, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * whoops.. I worked a bit too fast. Thanks for noticing and letting me know. Will work more careful. Thanks again, SportsOlympic (talk) 18:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Animals in Deaths in 2020
Hi. One of the consensual stipulations for including animals in the list above is that they don't get the 30 days grace for an article - they must already have an article directly about them. So redlinks are immediately removed, such as the ones you provided for Incredible and Dumbo recently. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 12:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Ahh thanks! I didn’t know that rule! SportsOlympic (talk) 14:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * 👍 Ref (chew) (do) 15:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

About: Klaasje Hofstee - please slow down with the article creations
Hi SportsOlympic,

In your edits to that article, it appears that you have added text about entirely another person - Baukje de Boer-Veenstra. As administrator on the English language Wikipedia, I strongly recommend that you slow down creation of creation of new articles and be more careful with their content and references.

I'll do my best to help you out with this, or anything else I can help with. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:36, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for the warning. I also created the Baukje de Boer-Veenstra. I create all the old women speed skaters, starting with the same format. After doing some screening I don’t see what’s wrong with the article??

What is the wrong text? And for information, in the coming days I will expand the Klaasje Hofstee article. SportsOlympic (talk) 12:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The name “de Boer” was mentioned in the prose, I change it. Not very carefully of me indeed, but the statement was not about De Boer. So blaming me with “added text about entirely another person” is not correct. SportsOlympic (talk) 12:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * In the latter article Baukje de Boer-Veenstra the year of birth are unlike the category of birthyear, what is correct ? And it would be nice if you used more descriptive referances instead of bare-url's. Best regards Migrant (talk) 15:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You can see it in the reference. It’s not the case for Loltje de Boer. According to the source she is born in 1911. However, I was able to find the original birth certificate, indicating 1910. As that is the original and official source, I changed the birth date from 1911 to 1910. Thanks, and happy speed skating editing :) SportsOlympic (talk) 19:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ow, yes, I agree with the bare URL’s. But I need to find a better (less time consuming) way to work with it on my phone. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Johan van Dorsten
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Thank you for creating Johan van Dorsten.

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 * , thanks for reviewing! The Wikipedia translation tool is only made for translating. After publishing of the translation I improved the article, added more sources and added content. I removed your tags (I only don’t know if I am, as the editor, allowed to do that?) SportsOlympic (talk) 20:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dorothée Pousséo


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I have removed the speedy nomination, as she is notable (as are many important voice actors in France). Having said that, I can understand the speedy nomination, as the article had no source indicating this notability at all, just some databases and the dubious looking soap-passion site. I have replaced this with a full article in Le Figaro, you could probably also use this one. If you had included in the article that she was the voice of Vanellope in the Wreck-it-Ralh movies (French versions hein), it might have helped as well. This is not an independent source, but a reliable one so good to use in addition of the independent ones. Fram (talk) 15:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

World Allround Speed Skating Championships for Women
Hello SportsOlympic. I see that you are expanding the list-article (World Allround Speed Skating Championships for Women) with full results for 1965 thru 1976 editions, but these resultlists should really have their own article instead of being included in the main-article which is focusing on the history for the championship and the medalwinners along with some trivia about that. Best regards Migrant (talk) 19:50, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * yes I agree, but I won’t start creating them. I thought it would be better to have them there, so it’s much easier for someone to create them, in stead of not having the lists. (It the article will become too long I can place it in a collapsible template) SportsOlympic (talk) 20:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not that familiar with how things are done here, since most of my edits are done at the norwegian wikipedia, commons and at wikidata, I'm not sure how to solve this internal linking needs for the speed skater biography-articles created by you. But maybe make them as draft article stubs with some similar short descriptions lead-ins, and or a collapsed table with main heading within the same article as now but with a little longer explainable heading in a lower of level headings. Best regards Migrant (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

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Wikidata via undefined at Deaths in 2020
Hi. This has recently been discussed in the Talk page for the above, and it was pointed out that they are not currently in favour due to consensus built in 2018 here. This affects one edit of yours, which has been reverted. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 18:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for telling me! Won’t use WD in recent deaths in future. SportsOlympic (talk) 18:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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Ways to improve Ina Steenbruggen
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 * easily meating GNG, also online sources. Found >500 hits (sum of these 240 newspapers and these 308 newspapers) where she is mentioned in Dutch newspapers. 10 examples where the title in the newspaper is about her: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. SportsOlympic (talk) 15:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Aha! I did not search newspaper archives, but did do a google search. I suggest you maybe add 2 of the best newspaper pieces as a source? Doing so head off possible future concerns by other editors. --Eostrix (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Terêza Tenório


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Speedy deletion nomination of Liu Aiqin


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SportsOlympic -- Usually, non-significant people in the family of major politicians (wife/husband of the politician) have a section in an article titled "The Family of X". Such is the case with U.S. Presidents. P,TO 19104 (talk) 21:54, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I have moved this page to Draft:Liu Aiqin so that it can be edited to better describe how this person is significant and notable, if she is. You may work on it there, if you like. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , “ non-significant people..” is not the case. Moved it back to main space; easily meeting GNG. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * SportsOlympic, I was about to delete this under WP:CSD (No claim of significance) when I decided to move it to draft instead so that proper assertions o0f significance and evidence of notability could be added to the text. If you don't want to do things that way, so be it. Would you care to explain what credible claims of significance are now in the article? Who is notability demonstrated for Liu Aiqin? Dos she pass WP:NBIO? You say she is, would you care to explain how? I don 't see it at the moment. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:22, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * As GNG states in the first sentence: "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Please see the sources. With these sources the article can easily be expanded. Note that she received (as not bieng a Russian) medals from Russian presidents Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin. Not even mentioning the other awards she received. I have seen people much less notale having an article.... Maybe your point it that it is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage. But, yes, that's why I tagged it as a WP:stub: "A stub is an article deemed too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject." SportsOlympic (talk) 15:36, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that in this version of the article, the version that was tagged for speedy deletion, the awards were not mentioned and only one source was cited. Your comments above did not mention that you had added both content and sources to the article. It was precisely to allow this that I moved it to draft rather than simply deleting it. I note that all the sources currntly cited are not in English. That is perfectly acceptable, but it would be helpful if the citations provided translated versions of the article titles and of the names of the publications. If using citation templates, this can be down with the trans-title parameter (for the article title). DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:24, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Mona Iversen
Hello SportsOlympic. I saw that you created an article about speed skater Mona Iversen. I would just give a source in norwegian (https://www.adressa.no/nyheter/article686956.ece) for her reletively famous husband and 3 of her 5 known children. Including 2 norwegian female figure skaters with national championship medal at senior-level and a norwegian male ice hockey player in the top league in Norway. Thanks for the creation and best regards Migrant (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for letting me known. Interesting! Will take a look at it, probably tomorrow. Or feel fee of course to add the info yourself :). SportsOlympic (talk) 18:45, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , added the info. How did you know her date of birth? SportsOlympic (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * For norwegian speed skaters this (https://www.skoyteforbundet.no/siteassets/hurtiglop/statistikk/2020-norges-allround-vm-deltakeres-debutalder---rer.pdf) .pdf-file would be good to use for birthdays I believe. I've also got several Norwegian speed skating statistical books which is saying the same date, but they are most probably from the same source... Best regards and take care, Migrant (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks!! That helps a lot. With all the databases now hiding the day of birth.. SportsOlympic (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The linked .pdf-file has a little statistical false info on who was the oldest world allround participant for Norway, but that has been forwarded by med to the one who takes care of the lists at Norwegian Skating Association (english name)/Norges Skøyteforbund (norwegian name). It seems that it is Charles Mathiesen who was the eldest participant at the world allround for norway, but I do believe it is Sverre Aune. And the person that is taking care of the stats-list said he would take a look at it in the upcoming days, not tomorrow, but later he promised me. Best regards Migrant (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Fabio Lombini


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 * , thanks! I will create many more speed skaters! SportsOlympic (talk) 06:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Genevieve Westcott
Thanks for starting the article on Westcott. I remember her well from TV days back in the 1980s and 90s - so sad to see she had passed away. After expanding it, I nominated it for the main page of WP under "Recent Deaths" and it's there now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page MurielMary (talk) 12:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for your work! Good to see her on the main page. I have to say I didn’t know her. I try to create (among others) short articles or stubs of all notable women who recently died. If you don’t want the hassle of starting articles, let me know and I can create all the stubs as a starting point :) SportsOlympic (talk) 16:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a great piece of work you're onto there, creating stubs for recently deceased women. Awesome! I'm not always up to date with recent deaths so that's great that someone is doing that regularly. Happy editing! MurielMary (talk) 09:47, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Good job!
Good job on creating articles and expanding Wikipedia. I usually see your name at the NPP when patrolling. Cheers Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  20:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the compliment! Yes, I do my best (in my limited time)! I like to create articles about Dutchies, sportswomen and women in the news (incl. who recently died). SportsOlympic (talk) 09:43, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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Natálie Kerschbaummayr
Hello SportsOlympic. Thanks for creating yet another speed skater-biography, Natálie Kerschbaummayr. But I would like you to check the text/wording of this one since there seems to be some copy-pasting or misplaced word(ing) in the lead-in/main text of the article. Thanks in advance. Note that I added a external links-section at the bottom for more info about the speed skater. Best regards Migrant (talk) 02:01, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for your message. Yes I see, the sentence wasn't finished! I changed it. Thanks for letting me know. Regards, SportsOlympic (talk) 06:21, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You didn't get it all so I fixed the rest. --Migrant (talk) 16:51, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No! Really!? Whoops! Thanks for noticing and changing. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that reply-message didn't work since it is pointing to the wrong username, but that would you of course know from before. Best regards Migrant (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hello again SportsOlympic. I see that you are creating new articles talkpages with this template  but they are added to different pages like Talk:Jin Yingshun, Talk:Kim Klein and Talk:Cheryl Prendergast, but the parameter   aren't changed to correct name for the article. I don't know for how long you have been adding this to these type of pages, so I would like you to correct this category sorting-related problem in your back-log. Thanks in advance and best regards Migrant (talk) 15:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello again, oww, usually I use the same the same day, just by copy-paste. So it’s likely it would be a big problem. Will check the articles I created last week. SportsOlympic (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * A few more I thought. I changed 10 talk pages with the wrong listas parameter. SportsOlympic (talk) 18:12, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for taking care of it... Best regards Migrant (talk) 21:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * because I edit at the English Wikipedia. I can show you >50 articles I created about Dutch women that are not at the Dutch Wikipedia. SportsOlympic (talk) 17:32, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I am not sure this addresses the underlying issue in the question asked. Just because you have done something more than 50 times does not mean it is correct action. In this instance I am asking why all this material about Dutch people with Dutch references (in Dutch) being posted to enwiki and not nlwiki?  --Whiteguru (talk) 21:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , that’s because I’m editing at the English Wikipedia and not (that much) at the Dutch Wikipedia. You should ask at the Dutch Wikipedia why it hasn’t been created there yet. It’s not a policy content in another language should first be published in that language. Be invited to start the Dutch article(s). SportsOlympic (talk) 18:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Why has this article at the Dutch Wikipedia nl:Clare Upton about a British women, with only English references, not yet been published at the English Wikipedia? SportsOlympic (talk) 18:16, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * , it's not a good way of practice if you don't like something, to just move it to the draft space. So I reverted your edit. You can use the Wikipedia curation tags. Please tell me the part you think is not referenced. SportsOlympic (talk) 17:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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Tietje Spannenburg-Pagels, and Oudega
Do you know in which of the three places called Oudega, all in Friesland, it was where Tietje Spannenburg-Pagels won her race in 1929? A Dutch friend (not a WP editor) and I have managed to solve several puzzles on that page (including WP:BOLD guesses for Sloten and for Makkum). Oudega is not so easy.

Please WP:TESTLINK before posting new articles. When you write an article on a little-known person, at that moment you may well be the world expert. Problems which might be easy for you to solve may be very difficult for anyone else. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your kind request and all of your work! I didn’t know there are so many disamb cities in Friesland. I assume it’s Oudega Smallingerland as it’s a known place to skate on natural ice see here. I will change it! SportsOlympic (talk) 18:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I imagine that contemporary records may just say "Oudega" - because everyone knew that's where races were held when the ice was thick enough.
 * Do you speak Dutch, or even Frysk? Because the Wikipedia Project would benefit by having articles about Tietje in those languages. If she has living relatives, that's where they should be able to find her. It's much easier to translate into your native language than out of it. (I wrote Johan Hendrik van Dale because my friend Willeke talked me into it.)
 * If you do write any parallel articles, be sure to make InterWiki language links (see that van Dale article for an example - bottom of left-hand column). (My hobby is fixing links to DAB pages; and on non-English-language topics, the article in the home language is the first place I look. There's often more, or better, detail there.) Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 09:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm having second thoughts. I think she won at Oudega, Súdwest-Fryslân. Look at these maps - Wommels and Oudega. You may need to scroll out a click or two to see both places on the same map. They're less than 15km apart - and Oudega is on a polder, and very near places where we know she raced, such as IJlst and Sneek. Or, perhaps, even better, this aerial view of Oudega - scroll out 3 clicks, and look NNE for Wommels, east of Witmarsum. What's your opinion? Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 18:37, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work. But no, I don't speak Frysk. What I actually did was removing the link at Tietje Spannenburg-Pagels. The source I used states "Oudega (H.O.H)" However, I cant fint what H.O.H means. Also this webiste also uses Oudega H.O.H; but don't understand what it means. I saw that Oudega, De Fryske Marren uses Oudega (H.O.N.) (see the Dutch page). SportsOlympic (talk) 18:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * H.O.H. could easily be a mistake for H.O.N.; and Oudega (H.O.N.) is surely Oudega, De Fryske Marren. The best solution may be a WP:NPOV footnote explaining the options but not drawing any conclusion. (I've done similar with e.g. air battles in WWI and pre-WWII birthplaces in Poland, where a placename is known but it seems impossible to determine which was the actual place.) I'll do that; if you think I'm wrong, revert me. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Tell me what you think. Narky Blert (talk) 19:45, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Susanna Kantanen for deletion
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Nomination of Dalanbayar Delgermaa for deletion
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DYK nomination of Houkje Gerrits Bouma
Hello! Your submission of Houkje Gerrits Bouma at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * A note was placed on the template almost a month ago; perhaps you didn't see it. Let's resolve these issues ASAP. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Liu Yin
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 * , I don’t completely understand your point. As it’s a Chinese name, it’s sometimes written as Liu Yin and sometimes as Yin Liu. I turned it around. SportsOlympic (talk) 21:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * There's nothing wrong with Liu Yin; I simply removed the reference - references should go in the article rather than on the disambiguation page. Leschnei (talk) 22:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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list-as variable in WikiProject Biography
Hello SportsOlympic - Thanks for adding WikiProject Biography banners to talk pages, but I've found a few cases where you left the "listas=" variable with incorrect information. Please see Talk:Maddison Pearman to see how I corrected one of them. The listas= variable is used to list peoples' names surname first, and unfortunately you left somebody else's name in some of the WP Biography banners. Please let me know if you have any questions about this. Regards,  PK T (alk)  16:00, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Outbreak Management Team for deletion
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 * See also this german wikipedia-category de:Kategorie:SC Einheit Dresden (Eissport) for other people related to this sports club, and also these german wikipedia-pages de:DDR-Meisterschaften im Eisschnelllaufen 1986 and de:DDR-Meisterschaften im Eisschnelllaufen 1987. It looks like she was in good group of skatingteamfriends of the era. Best regards Migrant (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Friese doorloper
From our previous conversations, Friese doorloper might entertain you. Narky Blert (talk) 17:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , ahh nice!!! Yes I know them! I have an old pair of them myself and even my daughter of 1.5 years :)) ! Thanks for creating the article. I will link to it from the articles of Dutch speed skaters when possible. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It isn't an easy subject area to research and write up. My friend Wil says that her father owns, or owned, a pair of Friese noren. 21:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It isn’t easy; however everybody in the Netherlands knows them. And also, the picture in the article is indeed a “wooden skate” but not a real “Friese doorloper”. With a Friese doorloper the blade goes further than the wood. However, every body names a wooden skate. Friese doorloper and visa versa. SportsOlympic (talk) 21:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021
Hello, I'm Vexations. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacques Daliwe that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Vexations (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Joey Mills
Hello, could you help me save this article from deletion if its legitimacy is not proven, since those who want to delete it insist that the article does not have references, which is not the case, you will be able to observe good writing and linked to other languages ​​that prove the relevance of the article. Secretsgenius (talk) 06:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jovan Koružić


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Speedy deletion nomination of Erla Wigelund


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Google translate: "Erla and Kristján then created a price list, an order list, where people were given the opportunity to order and have the products sent home by post. They also traveled around the country selling clothes to people."

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Jopie Huisman Award
Because you are always getting into trouble while scavenging for articles, I hereby award you, the Jopie Huisman Award (<- red link!!).

KittenKlub (talk) 17:56, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , hahahaha hilarious!! Thanks for this :) Makes me smile. I will start reading about him, and who knows an article at the en-wiki might pops-up ;). SportsOlympic (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I think Jopie Huisman deserves an article. His paintings and life philosophy is so beautiful. The Rag-and-bone man (voddenman) who became a celebrity ;) KittenKlub (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Jan Herberts moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Jan Herberts, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Lettlerhello • contribs 21:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey man, please remember to cite your articles with more sources. Thanks, Lettlerhello • contribs 21:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Everything is sources, so can you please move it back? SportsOlympic (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn’t explain it yesterday. I created the page with the translation tool. And, as often, it doesn’t add the references. After doing a quick search for a better source than at the Dutch Wikipedia, the page was already moved. SportsOlympic (talk) 06:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Jan Herberts for deletion
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Maryna Zerova moved to draftspace
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 * You shouldn't have moved this draft into article space without waiting for a review. It's not good enough. Deb (talk) 18:46, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I know many editors don’t like stubs, but I created the page because it meets the WP:Stub-guideliness. SportsOlympic (talk) 18:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Antje Hoekstra


A tag has been placed on Draft:Antje Hoekstra, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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 * you are not supposed to remove CSD template from page that you have created. Instead contest it in the talk page by clicking the contest button. Adminstrators will read it before deleting.
 * Additionally if it is the start of a genuine article and not spam, it would be better if you had added some text in the draft. Just having a bunch of links in the draft makes it looks like spam to anyone. Anyway goodluck with the draft. Cheers.  AVS malnad 77  talk  08:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , OK, done :)!
 * The links are to a website that doesn't seem to have anything to do with sport. It's hard to believe this is a serious attempt to create an article. It's deleted and you'll have to start again. Deb (talk) 09:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , what? Did you open the links? It were Delpher links, if you would have opened the links you would have seen it were to news paper articles about Antje Hoekstre. If you would have opened it, you would have seen Antje Hoenkstra was highlighted in yellow in all articles. Can you please restore the page. SportsOlympic (talk) 09:25, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No, I couldn't see anything on the subject, just some small icons I couldn't read. Why on earth did you do it like that? I'll restore the article in draft and you can work on it there until it's ready. Deb (talk) 10:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for restoring, however it's without the links I'm needing, can you also restore the links please. Strange you only see icons!? Yes let me explain. I create many articles on former speedskating with the information from old newspapers. For instance I created almost all women's at Template:Kortebaan speed skaters (women). See for instance Akke de Boer, I created with links from Delper. I also started that Draft with many Delpher links see here. Do you also see only icons when opening those links!? Yesterday evening I searched into the 1000s of hits of Antje Hokstra at Delpher and I selected the 5 best articles to start writing the article. For instance an article about her first races, several races she won and her marriage. So for me it would be great if I can get back those links, otherwise I have to do the search again. SportsOlympic (talk) 11:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't open the links because I didn't trust them. To reference the articles, you need to follow the guidelines at Citing sources, not just link to a search, but in any case, now I've restored the article, you should be able to see the page history and check the old version. Incidentally, why is there no article about her on nl.wikipedia? Deb (talk) 11:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * PS. The references on the Akke de Boer page are not formatted correctly. Deb (talk) 11:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , So you are blaming me of "Unambiguous advertising or promotion", stating that you see only icons, while you didn't even open a single link. Even while I was contesting and I was indicating it's a Delpher,link, a media website that even has an English Wikipedia page. But thanks for restoring. I'll improve the links, but note she is stil in draft space and under construction. I don't know why she doesn't have a nl-page, you should ask the people there. What I see is that nl.wiki are most focussed on the recent speed skaters. Articles I created about famous 19th-century Dutch speed skaters; >90% isn't at nl.wiki (Houkje Gerrits Bouma, Trijntje Reidinga, Anke Beenen, Jeltje van der Werf, Ynskje Wagenaar, Lutske Wester, Gelske Venema-Brouwe, Joukje Postma, Sytske Spijkstra, Baukje de Boer-Veenstra). But also for instance Jan van de Roemer, who died two weeks ago (that was in de media), doesn't have a nl page. I created between the 50 and 100 pages about speed skaters and speed skating coaches that are not at nl.wiki. SportsOlympic (talk) 12:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

The point is that it's difficult to say whether your sources are good enough because you are not citing them properly. You should at least name the newspaper instead of just referencing a search engine. We already have no idea of the status of these individual competitions - they could just be small local events or major competitions. I've actually given you quite a lot of help with this and I'm disappointed that you don't appreciate it. Deb (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Ways to improve Françoise Winnik
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Nomination of Blanquita Valenti for deletion
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Rym Ghezali not Ghazali
Can you correct the spelling, as above in the March 17 listing of Deaths in 2021. At the same time, can you correct the heading of the article, as I'm having difficulty at the moment (the rest of the article has been corrected). Thanks for that. You may also use this English speaking source if you wish, https://www.albawaba.com/entertainment/breaking-rym-ghezali-dies-after-long-battle-cancer-her-sister-selma-breaks-tears. Editrite! (talk) 09:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for noticing. Yes, I will do that immediately. Thanks, 10:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Marie Šupíková
Hallo, maybe you use Google translate... The sources state: “překonala covid a byla očkovaná, zemřela na jiné zdravotní komplikace” = “[Mrs Šupíková] overcame COVID-19 and was vaccinated, she died from other health issues”. “Přežila vyhlazení Lidic, vyzrála i na covid.” = “She survived the Lidice massacre and even took advantage of COVID-19”. Sincerely, Gumruch (talk) 10:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for coming by. Yes, I see it in the reference. However I red in one of the sources that, despite that she was vaccinated, she had COVID-19 when she died. Will check it later. But thanks! SportsOlympic (talk) 15:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , you are completely wright. Sorry for the mistake. I interpret it wrong ("Due to a long-term lung disease and covid, when she eventually recovered, she was vaccinated, other health complications were added, and she never returned home from the medical facility."), from the source boleslavsky. Sorry again, I see it has been reverted already. SportsOlympic (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Melissa Kremer


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Ref Toolbar
Hello! Thanks for all your contributions. I did notice that some of them use bare URLS without the title and author, which is less than desirable as the URL sometimes disappears later down the road. There is an excellent tool called the RefToolbar that expands bare URLS. You put the URL in the URL spot, then click the magnifying glass and it completes the URL. Hope that helps.--- Possibly (talk) 20:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for your message! It’s actually what I was looking for. Usually I use Refill as a tool, but it appears it’s not working since yesterday. I will look into your suggestion! Thanks again! SportsOlympic (talk) 22:05, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am not sure what is up with reFill! I also noticed it is not working. Ref Toolbar works a lot better. If you find it taking more than 20 seconds to fill in the details, it usually means the URL is not right or does not exist. --- Possibly (talk) 22:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi, ah wow! Thanks! Much appriciated. And I wil continue working on it :) SportsOlympic (talk) 08:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Great and well deserved!!! gidonb (talk) 09:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia.Commons, Wikidata and Wikidata Infobox
Hello SportsOlympic. Thanks for uploading pictures to Wikimedia.Commons. But when you are creating categories at wikimedia.commons I would very much like that you also add the template Commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox like i did in this edit and this edit and then it will add on some more basic categories to your newly created category when it also have been linked to wikidata. And if you also add the profile picture in wikidata (like I did here for Synnøve Lie) it will show up in this wikidata infobox and also at some wikipedia-articles that gets their profile-picture directly from wikidata, like the pl:Synnøve Lie and at ru:Ли, Синнуве and also at the norwegian wikipedia. Best regards Migrant (talk) 20:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks! And thanks for noticing and coming by. Yes I understand what you mean. I'll chek what I can do! However, uploadinng images is not a main thing for me. It's just when I seee soome, I will do it. I would like to add the >1000 images that can be uploaded of speed skaters and Olympic athletes but I won't have the time for it. It costs a lot of work with downloading, cutting, cropping, uploading, adding description etc. And because I just see it as something "extra"to upload the images, I am not going to invest a lot of time in it. Maybe for some images I will just add one or more ategories directly to an image. SportsOlympic (talk) 08:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you will consider and also see the value of this when you contribute across the wikimedia-projects. Best regards Migrant (talk) 14:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes no worries, I will. See for instance the most recent images I uploaded, category I created and article I created. Commons:Category:Elly Taconis. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:57, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Great! I just would like to explain to you the reason that there is a very different amount of information in the Wikidata Infobox-template in your newly created category (Commons:Category:Elly Taconis) than in the older one like this Commons:Category:Liselotte Landbeck are because of the amount of Property/Statements and Identifier-links in their Wikidata-item. And if you also add the given name, the surname, the birthyear/date and if the person is deceased also the deathyear/date it will show up automaticly as a category through the Wikidata Infobox-template. And the birthyear/date and if appropriate also the deathyear/date will show up in some wikipedia's for those wikipedias that are getting this and some other statements directly from the wikidata-item. Some wikipedia's do require a reference to be included at wikidata to transfer them in their local infobox like for instance the english Template:Infobox person/Wikidata and Template:Infobox sportsperson/Wikidata. But since I haven't been writing a lot in this wikipedia-language (I'm mostly on the Norwegian Bokmål-edition of wikipedia), I haven't tried it all by myself here yet. Happy editing and best regards Migrant (talk) 20:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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Ulrike Gauss moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Ulrike Gauss, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. --- Possibly (talk) 07:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , It’s a WP:stub “an article deemed too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject”. The person is a recognized art historian and the article has an good quality secondary source. In this case a “single source tag” would have been appropriate. If you don’t like stubs, yes, it’s the easiest way to “remove” the article from Wikipedia by moving it to Draft space. SportsOlympic (talk) 08:22, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Have you noticed the dozen or more draftify, prod or AFD notices on your talk page above, in just the last month? Does it tell you anything? I am actually a big fan of stubs: I have created something like 400 stub-length articles on women artists, and zero have been deleted. This is because I make sure they are well sourced and meet notability guidelines. This saves time, as other users do not consume their time going through the deletion process with my work. Articles like Ulrike Gauss end up having to be fixed by other editors. I just trimmed half of it because the claims that she was a professor and that she won a prize were not in the single source given. Does that make sense, about the problems with very short single-source articles? --- Possibly (talk) 08:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I like to create stubs of people who are notable local or people who are notable by meeting GNG (for instance Jan Geersing, Ingrid Schultheiß, Melissa Kremer, Blanquita Valenti, SportsOlympic (talk) 10:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's that people are against articles on local personalities, but rather that people are against poorly sourced articles. If you had stronger sourcing, say three good sources per article, you would have very few of the PROD/AFD/Draftify notices above. If you can get really good at making articles that don't require reviews (well sourced, no tags necessary, subject clearly notable), you can apply for the autopatrolled permission, which means your articles are automatically reviewed. Learning how to make stronger articles notability-wise is a good thing, as it helps to reduce the reviewer workload. It also makes your life happier as you won't be getting so many notices. And it all starts with three good sources. You could ask, is it better to launch ten boats with holes in them, or five very solid boats? Hope that helps.--- Possibly (talk) 21:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Magda_Strebl
Under which criteria this is notable? Please explain to me for my understanding. Sonofstar (talk) 08:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * She had some of the most important positions for an Austrian libririan. Also there are of her 20 works in 34 publications and at 118 library holdings (accoring to WorldCat). She is well described at the biografishce datenbank und lexikon österreichiser frauen (see here). SportsOlympic (talk) 09:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. Sonofstar (talk) 10:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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Archived norwegian newspapers
Hello SportsOlympic. I saw your comment in Articles for deletion/Else Methi and Articles for deletion/Karin Horn Evensen where you said, quote: «The Norwegian newspapers of that era are not online (by my knowledge)». And to that I can inform you about these sources: List of newspaper archives, and to that list first point I can add that of all the newspaper that are archived are not all that existed of the time, so it is not a complete archive of newspapers in Norway. But the sources at Nasjonalbiblioteket/National Library of Norway do have som geopreferences for accessibility, not all documents are readable for IP-adresses outside of Norway and some are even more restricted to be read at an actual library in real life. Best regards Migrant (talk) 19:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ahh, thanks!! I didn’t know these sources. I will take a look at them and start using them! Thanks again :) SportsOlympic (talk) 19:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

RT and deaths
Just a heads up - RT is a deprecated source, so we can't use it to document a recent death. Egsan Bacon (talk) 17:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks for noticing me! Appriciated :) There are a lot of sources about his death, I wanted to reflist him, but I see someone else already did it. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Eva Bal
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 * , thanks! SportsOlympic (talk) 19:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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SpeedSkatingNews.info and norwegian speed skating
Hello SportsOlympic. I must make a comment about your use and mentioning of the SpeedSkatingNews.info (SSN) website. It may look complete, but it isn't really all complete and it probably never will. The database at that website are still the most complete online public database there is for speed skating results.

See this F.A.Q. – Frequently Asked Questions with this qoute:
 * «Where did all the information come from?
 * Most of the data come from the official competition protocolls and are send to us by the organizers itself. We obtain these protocols. Older competitions are determined by investigation in the Federal Archives or directly from the clubs. The majority of the data is included in the database of the WSSSA (World Speed Skating Statistician Association).»


 * My comments: And since this database got its own web-domain in december 2009 after its separation from DESG ( https://www.desg.de/ ), it is naturally not up-to-date with absolute all the older speed skating events, especially the local ones and also some other types of events like for instance the Speed skating at the European Youth Olympic Winter Festival (2001-edition), but the 1997-edition are still missing. Another reason not trusting the completeness of the website is because the database is also relying on speed skating organizers to sending over their results. By the way I, myself did inform the database-people of the correct track-records of my local speed skating rink Hvitstein Stadion – Holmestrand (no:Hvitstein stadion, nl:Hvitstein stadion ). And if you look at the season-results at that speed skating track which mentions the club-skating events named: «Poengløp» was arranged most of the seasons since the no:Holmestrand og Botne Skøyteklubb were established in december 1957, and as you see those results are mostly missing from the earlier years. My younger brothers Ingar and Arild Skillinghaug did compete alongside me in these club-competition from the early 1980's and until the 1994-olympic season, and I don't have any recorded result at the database (mostly because these races aren't recorded in that database, and I only did my races in those competitions, and I wasn't a good speed skater either, only one that tagged along my brothers, which took the sport more serious than me).

and Mediadata & Advertisement on SpeedSkatingNews.info with the qoute:
 * «SpeedSkatingNews.info is the world’s most important portal on ice speed skating. The site covers  nearly  all competitions and events with news and statistics. The site is aimed to all visitors interested in sports, press services, sponsors and agencies who are searching for speedskating information.»


 * My comments: It is mine underlining and using the font bold for the word nearly which is a better word for the completeness of the database. So please don't be so determined in mentioning the total of participations in national championships. How do you know that the national championsship in the database at SSN website are complete. The relay-championships in Norway (no:Mal:Norske mesterskap i hurtigløp på skøyter, no:NM på skøyter, stafett and no:NM på skøyter, maraton) aren't in the database.

PS. For the norwegian national speed skating championships I do have in physical copy the Norske Mesterskap på skøyter 1894 - 2005 which is the 3rd edition. I do also own a 2nd edition in physical copy which has the title: Norske Mesterskap på skøyter 1887 - 1989. The 2nd edition includes the unofficial ones from before the Norwegian Skating Association was established. Although this Oslo SK club was established, so some organisers were available.

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Roberto Herrera Garcia
The source says Roberto Carlos Herrera, so I think that you have the wrong name. It's similar but not the same. Editrite! (talk) 07:35, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for coming bye! Ahh, good notice! That’s because his full name is “ Roberto Carlos Herrera García”, I added it to the stub. And besides of that, thanks for all your great work!! SportsOlympic (talk) 17:42, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I wonder why the sources I've seen so far, don't give the full name i.e. leave out Garcia, which is normally a surname. Editrite! (talk) 09:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * , it’s in a source for instance here, but yes I agree in most sources it’s not mentioned. I will move the page. SportsOlympic (talk) 09:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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Reinette van Zijtveld
Just a comment re your reversion of my recent edit, citing Dutch grammar as the reason. Remember that this is the English Wikipedia using English grammar. Also on a similar note, this is for your education. Towards the end of your CA Wylie post (Wikidata reports) on the May talk page of Deaths in 2021, your use of the word "no" is not correct. No is the opposite of yes, among other things, and the word you should have used is "know" (also pronounced "no"). For example, to know something or someone, as in knowledge (pronounced nolledge). I'm guessing that you're Dutch, and English is your second language. Editrite! (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ,I know the difference between "no" and "known". That must have been a typo or an auto-correct. But I still think this revision I made was correct. This Dutch-grammer rule (see Tussenvoegsel) should also be used when writing in English, see: Van_(Dutch) (The "v" is written in lower case, except when the surname is used as standalone (when the first name or initials are omitted), in which case it is capitalised). SportsOlympic (talk) 09:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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Marianne Lienau moved to draftspace
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Ragnhild Andresen moved to draftspace
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Nomination of Ruth Farchi for deletion
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Nomination of Marianne Lienau for deletion
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Footballer articles and infoboxes
Hi there. Thanks for all the footballer articles you are creating. Could you please use Template:Infobox football biography instead of Template:Infobox person of for footballers? Recently, I've corrected the infobox at Slobodan Sudec, Freddy Qvick and perhaps a few others. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:21, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Madelon Beek
Hi SO. Nice work with the expansion on her bio - thanks!  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * thanks! Always nice to find good sources to expand a stub :). I will also start searching (later) for sources of the other Dutch softball players. I see they were quite good in that era with international titles (didn't know that)! SportsOlympic (talk) 18:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Joan Ferrés Curós moved to draftspace
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Yauhien Anischanka moved to draftspace
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Ricardo Estarriol moved to draftspace
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Speedy deletion nomination of Joan Ferrés Curós


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Speedy deletion nomination of Yauhien Anischanka


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Speedy deletion nomination of Ricardo Estarriol


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