User talk:Sportsinfocenter

The article Fred Dwayne Harvey - athlete & musician has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, individual animal, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Fred Dwayne Harvey - Athlete & Professional Musician


A tag has been placed on Fred Dwayne Harvey - Athlete & Professional Musician requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. red dog six (talk) 03:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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I've deleted the page because ultimately I don't see where the person has really done anything that would cause him to pass our notability guidelines. I didn't really see that the article had any sourcing that would firmly establish notability via reliable sources either. Neither of the sources in the article seemed to mention Harvey at all and him being an athlete or musician does not automatically mean that he passes notability guidelines, as existing is not notability (WP:ITEXISTS). Also, you claim that he has coined a phrase, but you would have to show that this is a particularly notable move and isn't something that someone just came up with one day (WP:ONEDAY) This is particularly hard to do, since specific moves rarely gain coverage in and of themselves and even when they do, it's uncommon for the coverage to specifically state who came up with it. It also doesn't help that the move isn't an extremely common one and looks to be something only performed (meaning that they specifically refer to it as such) by a specific group of people in a specific area. Even if it was very widely used, just being popular (WP:ITSPOPULAR) doesn't automatically mean that the move would give Harvey notability. The other problem with saying that he originated the move/term is that you'd have to be able to prove it- which again, means coverage.

It's actually pretty common for a lot of people to claim that one specific person started something and that they were responsible for something specific becoming popularly used. This is especially common when it comes to moves that might be seen as generic as a whole. I don't mean this to come across as harsh, but hopping around while celebrating is something that could be seen as fairly common and saying that it's widely practiced as a celebratory move could just be that you're looking at similar looking celebratory moves and assuming that it's them performing the identical move. That's why it's so incredibly hard to establish notability for specific moves. This is a pretty common issue with a lot of things of this nature, such as neologisms, dance moves, and various terms. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   07:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also on a side note, I would actually recommend that if you are trying to create a page and meet issues of notability that previously caused it to become deleted, that you re-create it on the same page. (In this case, Fred Dwayne Harvey.) Trying to create it on various different pages (Fred Dwayne Harvey - athlete & musician and Fred Dwayne Harvey - Athlete & Professional Musician) can come across as you trying to avoid detection, which looks very bad- even if this was not your intent. I've also blocked you because your name comes across as a promotional username or at least like you are editing on behalf of an organization, as there are some sites that come up with the name "Sports Info Center". You can feel free to request an unblock and to change your name accordingly, but I want to make sure that you have read over our basic notability guidelines as well. I honestly don't see where Harvey meets our notability guidelines and I'd personally recommend against re-adding him until you can show coverage to prove his notability. Simply saying that he passes notability guidelines and that it'd be useful to have an article (WP:ITSUSEFUL) is not enough to meet notability guidelines. You have to prove that the person passes WP:GNG. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   07:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add that if you are User:Feeddharvey, it's best if you were to only edit under that account name. It's not against the rules to have multiple accounts, but it is discouraged because it can sometimes come across as WP:SOCKPUPPETRY unless you are very transparent about your use of multiple accounts and the accounts are not created to get around various rules. If you are another person that Feeddharvey asked to come to edit, then please be aware that this can be seen as WP:MEAT. This isn't entirely against the rules per se- it all depends on the how and why of your edits. Basically, if you're here to try to get around guidelines or you're here solely to edit for Harvey, then it could be seen as disruptive. I really don't mean this to come across as scary or harsh, just that I really want to make sure that you're aware of these guidelines since the learning curve for this can be very, very steep. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   07:22, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Blocked
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. Thank you. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   07:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)