User talk:SpottedTurtles

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Proposed deletion of Terry W. Patience


The article Terry W. Patience has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Cahk (talk) 19:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Terry W. Patience for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Terry W. Patience is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Terry W. Patience until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. schetm (talk) 17:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Terry W. Patience.jpg
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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. schetm (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Terry W. Patience


A tag has been placed on Terry W. Patience requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. ... disco spinster   talk  17:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Terry W. Patience


A tag has been placed on Terry W. Patience requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Articles_for_deletion/Terry_W._Patience. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Lard Almighty (talk) 15:06, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, SpottedTurtles. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Terry W. Patience, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Per your comments on the talk page. Lard Almighty (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Replying to Lard Almighty
Hey Lard Almighty, so I’m not supposed to create/edit a page that I know something about? But I can create/edit pages that I don’t? I don’t see the reasoning for this. SpottedTurtles (talk) 15:30, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The above information tells you what you need to know about managing a conflict of interest. It's not about what you know or don't know. It's about reliable sources. It's about whether the subject meets the notability guidelines of Wikipedia. Having a close connection with the subject does not necessarily preclude you from creating or editing articles about that subject; you just need to be very careful, and where an article has been deleted before for lack of notability someone with a close connection to the subject should probably not be the one to recreate it. Lard Almighty (talk) 15:37, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Replying to Lard Almighty
So how can this page still be left up and not deleted? And why was it deleted in the first place? SpottedTurtles (talk) 15:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * An Admin will come along in due course and decide whether the article should be deleted or not. You can see why the article was previously deleted here. The reasons for that deletion still stand. Lard Almighty (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * From what I gathered from that is that I need to add more sources that state that Terry Patience is the Prophet/President of the Remnant Church, correct? SpottedTurtles (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * First you need to determine whether he meets the general notability guidelines. This requires, among other things, that the subject has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." That is the baseline. You would need to show significant coverage over a period of time for an article to even be considered. Lard Almighty (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Okay, so it appears to me that he meets those guidelines, I just need to add as many sources I can find to his page. How much time do I have before his article is deleted? SpottedTurtles (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you'll find he doesn't. I have done a search for reliable sources (mainstream newspapers and news websites, independent religious press, mentions in non-self-published books etc. etc.) and can find absolutely nothing. He is just not notable. Lard Almighty (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2019 (UTC)


 * My church will be putting out more articles soon about his ordination and such. And also on our church’s website theremnantchurch.com, on the home page it states “Ordination of Terry Patience to Prophet - June 29, 2019” also on Terry Patience’s Facebook Page facebook.com/terry.patience.14 he states “I am currently the President of the Remnant Church...” in his bio. SpottedTurtles (talk) 16:40, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * None of those are independent of the subject. I'm sorry, but he is just not notable. If he becomes notable in the future, no doubt someone without a COI will come along and create an article. Lard Almighty (talk) 16:46, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Terry W. Patience
Hi — I have WP:SALTed Terry W. Patience indefinitely due to your repeated recreation of it. Kindly do not try to circumvent this by creating the article under an alternate name like "Terry Patience" or "T.W. Patience". Thank you! Chetsford (talk) 06:00, 13 October 2019 (UTC)