User talk:Spudlace/Archive/2022/July

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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Christianization of the Roman Empire as diffusion of innovation
I am of course disappointed, but I am endeavoring to take all that you said as a good faith effort to help improve this article, and I am attempting to address your observations with actual substantive changes. I have redone the lead, but honestly, I cannot tell if it's an improvement. This has been a very difficult article in that it really covers two big subjects, in parallel, and because it is a sub-page that attempts to explain one particular point of view. What I found on WP's rules indicated to me that it's okay in such a circumstance to have a pov, but it's always possible I could have misunderstood. If that is wrong, I am just totally screwed. Please help if you can! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It was suggested in the peer review that this article should stop with Constantine. What do you think? Almost all the sociological articles do so. They are primarily interested in growth before the fourth century. Jenhawk777 (talk) 06:25, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You can ask at WP:NPOV/N. My answer would be that the article should have one subject. In this case the Christianization of the Roman Empire article would have a section for diffusion of innovation arguments or theories. The diffusion of innovation article could have a section for Christianization of the Roman Empire. This article was written in the style of an essay and not a Wikipedia article. It needs to be significantly rewritten. Examples:
 * "For the Roman Empire, early Christianity was not only a new religion, it was a new kind of religion." Italics are not used this way in Wikipedia articles.
 * It's poorly organized. There is content about ancient Roman paganism and religions in different sections of the article without being clearly related to the subject of diffusion. This topic is already part of the article Christianization of the Roman Empire.
 * The article title could be "Spread of Christianity in the Roman Empire" as the sub-page to "Spread of Christianity". - If you look at other Wikipedia articles to see if they have this style of title.
 * "There is evidence based on eclipses that points to Friday 3 April AD 33 as the date when Jesus most likely died." - Nothing at all to do with the article subject.
 * These are only a few examples. You have the option to resubmit the article for review by another reviewer if you feel that my failing the article was done in error or the issues have been addressed in subsequent changes. For content discussions prefer the talk page of the article. Copied this over. Spudlace (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No, no, I am paying careful attention to all your comments. I promise you, whether I am able to see everything clearly right now, up front here, or not, eventually I will incorporate everything you have said into changes in the article. Right now I am struggling a bit. For example, I don't see how it is possible to have this be one topic. Even as you describe it, with one aspect being smaller, there are still two subjects. How to organize and present that has been difficult, I admit, and clearly I haven't figured that out yet. I was attempting to go chronologically with Christianization but that doesn't work all that well for the diffusion half. I will try the alternate approach, but Christianization can't just be a section. It occurred in 5 stages and each stage is a different period in time and involves different people. Somehow I will have to figure out how to connect the two subjects more clearly - a clearer focus - somehow... And of course you're right, instead of italics I probably should have used WP: emphasis . You are also correct that which is also mostly my work. As a subpage of that article, this one was intended to go into detail not possible there. I'll figure it out. It has to be organizable somehow! One comment I do find a bit baffling, however, is this one:  But - the subject is Christianity. I don't quite follow your thinking there. At any rate, thank you for answering. I appreciate that you took the time and made the effort, and I will attempt to rework the article taking full advantage of all your insights. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:35, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Recent edit reversion
In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

I provided a brief summary of the problem in the edit summary, which should be visible just below my name. You can also click on the "view history" tab in the article to see the recent history of the article. This should be an edit with my name, and a parenthetical comment explaining why your edit was reverted. If that information is not sufficient to explain the situation, please ask.

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 * I should have mentioned in the edit summary that I copied that from the ice cream article. Another editor has mentioned some copyright related disturbance at the ice cream article. I don't know know much about if it was copyrighted or a false positive. Spudlace (talk) 18:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Balance at "Ice cream"
I'm citing WP:Balance: "However, when reputable sources both contradict one another and also are relatively equal in prominence, describe both points of view and work for balance. This involves describing the opposing views clearly, drawing on secondary or tertiary sources that describe the disagreement from a disinterested viewpoint." See my edit for example. Present your sources, Wikipedia is not afraid of adding differing points of view. CABF45 (talk) 06:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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