User talk:Sreifa/Archive 1

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Sreifa! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Mysdaao talk 12:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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advice
Dear Sreifa, as reviewing admin, I need to tell you that the sequence you are doing this is not really right, and will cause considerable difficulties and wasted effort. The source must be added immediately--the current policies are very unfriendly to unsourced BLP articles. If you know enough to write the article, you know enough to add the source. Sources do not have to be n English. An exact Hebrew source is acceptable, as is also one in any language at all. (please don't do it as just the general reference to the award's main webpage) Please add it when you start. If you can, please do try to find an English source as well--google news archive will usually find one. There ought to be one for essentially any winner of this prize. I did one or two; another ed. did some. I will check back in a few days to see that you've added the others.  DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Israel - New articles
Hi Sreifa, Just to let you know that I have been listing the new articles created by you on the New Articles page of WikiProject Israel at WikiProject_Israel/New_articles. However, perhaps you would prefer to add these to the list yourself, when you create them. Cheers and keep up the good work, Davshul (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

images
Is it permissible to use a photo from an entry from another language for the equivalent entry in English??

Specifically, I mean thisphoto from thisHebrew entry, for this English entry.


 * yes it is, remember, it has to be notiable to be on Wikipedia, but seeing as its already on another Wikipedia, it should be allowed on the English Sophie  (:  08:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Tel Arad
Hi Sreifa, mentioning what a place is called in English is rather meaningless unless you also specify what it's called in Hebrew. Since disucssing the name of the Arad Plain/Valley is rather unimportant in an article about Tel Arad, I removed the reference. Poliocretes (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Your templates, etc
Hi Sriefa,

I would recommend that you do not use your talk page to include templates for use by you for creating articles or editing articles. Apart from any other consideration, please view below the categories currently attributed to your talk page - since, as your templates include categories, you (as User Sriefa) now appear personally in Category:Israel Prize women recipients, Category:German Jews, Category:1987 deaths and various others categories. May I suggest that instead of using your talk page, which is primarily used for talking between users, you create a Word document (which I have done), which contains all your "Stuff" and templates, which can be kept open when working on Wikipedian editing and from which, in any case, copying is easier than from another Wikipedia page. Davshul (talk) 07:55, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * sorry, I wasn't thinking.--Sreifa (talk) 09:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Category:Honorary citizens of Jerusalem
Sreifa. I do not know whether you follow Categories for discussion/Speedy, but I recently nominated the category created by you, Category:Honorary citizen of Jerusalem, for speedy renaming to Category:Honorary citizens of Jerusalem, as categories should be in the plural. On the discussion page, it has been pointed out "that previous categories for "honorary citizens" have been deleted/listified." Davshul (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw. I'll accept whatever decision is made by the editorial board. On a different matter; have you ever heard of "the medal of the freedom of Jerusalem"? I found a reference that it was given to Helena Kagan in 1958, but that doesn't really make sense to me, and I can't find anything about it. --Sreifa (talk) 06:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I cannot help on this one.Davshul (talk) 06:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Thompson book, Aqir, Ekron
Moved to the page: Talk:Aqir

Question for administrator
adminhelp Hi - I'm asking for administrator help here, because I think that different editors will have different (and non-negotiable...) opinions. The following pages exist with a lot of repetition:
 * Beit Guvrin National Park
 * Beit Guvrin, Israel
 * Bayt Jibrin
 * Eleutheropolis
 * Maresha

There is a disambiguation page (Beit Guvrin), but the articles themselves do not have clear scopes.
 * The national park boundaries include Maresha, Eleutheropolis, and Bayt Jibrin.
 * Eleutheropolis=Beit Guvrin (name changed in antiquity)

I would like to add info, but don't know where to start. IMHO, there are too many pages.--Sreifa (talk) 06:24, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not really an issue an administrator can help with. It sounds like you think the pages ought to be consolidated, or perhaps merged, but don't know how to go about doing it. The best option here would be to start a discussion, either on the talkpage of a relevant WikiProject, such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel, or on the talkpage(s) of the article(s) in question.  Skomorokh   12:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Gath / Tel as-Safi
Hi Sreifa! I have noticed that you proposed merging Gath into Tel as-Safi. The previous proposal was to merge Tel as-Safi into Gath instead, and I agree with that reasoning. What is the rationale for your proposal? Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 16:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I responded on the discussion page. --Sreifa (talk) 05:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you given any more thought to this? I left some remarks on the talk page.  The two pages should really be merged.AMuseo (talk) 21:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If I merge, I merge as I proposed or maybe as Tel es Safi/Gath (or maybe Gat?) --Sreifa (talk) 04:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

edit comments
Shalom, would you be able to use 'Edit Summary's? It is not easy to follow your edits, and it is recommended. --Shuki (talk) 22:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try to remember, sometimes a summary can run a little too long. What specifically? --Sreifa (talk) 04:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010
Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Yavne. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. When proposing a merge for two articles, notify *all* the wikiprojects those articles are in the scope of, not just one. --Andrensath (talk &#124; contribs) 07:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC):
 * I actually don't think soliciting inputs from the Israel project page will result in partisan views. As already evident, contributors to the project are not always in favor of my proposal. However, I strongly feel that it is not to the advantage of anyone looking for correct information on a town, to have two pages on the same place, reflecting two (or more) populations. While it might be technically preferable in some cases, that is not the case here. I must emphasize, yet again, that I have no intention of deleting information, templates, or list from either page, I just think they should be consolidated. --Sreifa (talk) 07:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Acra
Hi Sreifa,

I've noticed you've been contributing to Israel-related archaeology articles recently. User:Astynax has recently been working hard on promoting Acra (fortress) to featured article status. I've been helping out, but we could certainly use another pair of eyes on the article, someone a little more detached from the text. If you wish to help, you can check out the various comments we've received about the article here.

Thanks, Poliocretes (talk) 13:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the Smiley! the really interesting point will come tomorrow when I check how many people accessed the article :-) Poliocretes (talk) 14:51, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Execration texts
Hello from HOT: 105-107, recently 113+ (when it dries out, the temperature skyrockets, NOW it is 106, nearly 50 percent Humid, not much fun weather). (Good for under the Fan in Air Conditioning.) I didn't bother to vote at the Execration text Cfd, but I wrote a big long story. I have created some wonderful categories, (over the years, (like: Category:Epic of Gilgamesh) but some are Lucky, or 'Insightful' by default: when doing plants and animals, their regions, I ended up with Plains-Midwest (a catch-all for the central U.S.), example: Category:Native birds of the Plains-Midwest (United States), the forests change from eastern Texas (southeast Oklah.) eastwards, so it was wonderful to work on categories, and come up with things (That you have no IDEA you're even after, or going to come up with....).... I had seen various cities, still on my watchlist (I have hardly removed anything from it, so I have about 5-years, (1000's) of interesting things on it.) I didn't check on the Cat: (checking now). I assume the cat Category:Execration text places may get a rename, but it fascinates me who puts things up for Cfd. Sometimes I look at peoples histories, (and regrettably, there are some people I hope I never see their edits again, BuT even stubborn mules can be led to tasty, healthy water, ...I guess.) I don't know, (or care to know all the policy, or guidelines, of wikipedia). I do Know, that if I ever...end up on an orbitting space station-Platform, before I leave the "Living" on planet earth, by then it could still be possible to go to wikipedia, and do editting from space.... Somebody will one day take that giant leap (unless it has already been done !). I took a cursory glance at the Table of Contents on your talk page and saw Middle East stuff. When doing the Amarna letters, translating from the main sourcebook, and.... one looks at the Footnotes, all the Bilblical history, studies, expeditions, articles, periodicals, ...Thank Goodness people were looking, even if so much had not yet been revealed.... Anyhow just now gonna look at what's in the category... (and how did you know I'd be interested?)...(I'll figure it out if you don't answer...Thanx)... Thanx again, (My comment line on the execration text Discussion,... refers to a "Stone Age axe".. Most have Zero ornamentation. But one Archaeology book, designed for the MAsses, (Barnes & Noble type) had an axe with a rectangle with a graphic-pattern.. I felt a Gift had been given to me(to see THIS axe-spoken through 10's of millenniums-WOW).. all the books, all the words, but the choice of ONE photo spoke in a language, that didn't need "grunts"(and they didn't just USE grunts, (obviously)).. You do know that there are similar Execration -type texts from the American Indians; they took a bowl or Flat Plate, and put a design on it, a "Story", (then cracked a Hole in it with Pierce-ing Daggar-Tool, (or did they heat it?, or they poured water through the Hole, any way, One can read the results of the cracks I think, or read SOMETHING, (all akin to the Scapularmancy (Scapular Bone) reading of the Chinese TExts, in Pre-China...) WHAT a wonderful, amazing, Truth Stranger Than Fiction, story of Humans.(you and myself as example individual's of them-there Humans).... A postscript NOTE: P.S. The Amarna letters say: I bow down, 7 and 7 times (i.e. again and again). Sometimes it is I bow down 7 and 7 times, overflowing. The word is mi(long i)-la "mila", A Footnote discusses the word, but Only half the 382 letters are cited, (it is missed from about 3-letters of 7-(8) or so). I translate it as "gushing-ly"-(obsequious-ly)... so.. I bow down to you 7 & 7 times, "gushingly" (FUN stuff...) Of note, I worked on one of few letters from Babylon (Karaduniyash), letter EA 9, the King-(of Babylon) asks for Gold-(for his Father's Mausoleum-(good excuse)): when the mines are Producing: "Overflowing",... one day I realized it wasn't Ki-La, but Overflowing Mila, he was saying "when the mines are Overflowing, send ME GOLD!".... (This ended up being a Translation in Context proof of the understanding of the word.) (I think the word is also in a segue position, between partial sentences).. from the HotSonoran- DesertArizonaUSA... Mmcannis (talk) 19:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's OK, you can get up :). I'm not sure what the point your trying to make is, but I certainly respect the importance of the Amarna texts, and didn't mean to imply that the cat. should be removed. It's hot here in the Sharon plain, and unfortunately humid, as well. Keep sane, --Sreifa (talk) 07:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sreifa, thanks for bringing the issue to my attention, but the comments made by the other editors do have some merit. As interesting as I personally find the subject, the Execration texts are not as important as the Amarna letters. There is a problem of over-categorization on Wikipedia and a list of these places should suffice. Poliocretes (talk) 20:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not fond of lists, I don't think a ref to them belongs in an entry that is trying to be encyclopediac. I responded on the discussion page. --Sreifa (talk) 07:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope that you will take a look at the wikibias website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockvilleMD (talk • contribs) 15:46, 5 October 2010 (UTC)