User talk:Ssaco

Richard Branson
I think you're looking at other people's edits as I never touched the sailing wording since I have no knowledge of the subject. The only two edits I've done after yours are this one and this one. In hindsight the comma usage in the first was unnecessary. My insertion of a paragraph was only for Wiki-coding purposes. As it looked like the statement beginning with 'After 2 days [...]' was meant to be written in another paragraph but perhaps added by an editor unfamilar with Wiki-coding (and adding a full line break between paragraphs) I thought I would help out. I'd ask you to assume good faith next time. NcSchu ( Talk ) 14:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Gulfstream Polo Club
Are you able to take pictures of the club please, or is it too late?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:07, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Polo
Dear Ssaco, I notice you edit the article on polo occasionally. Honestly, it seems like the article on the game of polo has been taken over somewhat by Iranian nationalists. I have tried to clear up the 'Origins' section a bit by making it more objective but my edits are being reverted by Iranian Wikipedia users without any explanation. I intend on changing it and am just letting you know in advance so you don't think I am edit warring.

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Thanks for the heads up

Please consider registering. Your only ID presently is 86.30.66.111 which makes it difficult for meaningful discussion with an assured single user, and makes you somewhat vulnerable to criticism.

I see you have worked hard to maintain the integrity of that page. Thank you.

Also I see that User:میرسلوک غدیری قزوینی has a history that includes being blocked for persistent Disruptive editing.

--Ssaco (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

86.30.66.111 here. I decided to take your advice and make an account.

You're very welcome. Yes, User:میرسلوک غدیری قزوینی might also editing from another account. Is there anything that can be done -warnings, blocks?- if he continues disrupting the article? I don't fancy the idea of patrolling the article, especially since he does not engage on the Talk page or explain his edits...! Tomas990 (talk) 00:46, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

This article has been taking care of this for several years / the polo in the name of Iran has been registered in UNESCO
This essay is based on the base of the Achaemenids - Iran or Persia, and is from the earliest speech of this article. Chogan is Origin name for polo in history. What are you upset about that change? of yourself ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by میرسلوک غدیری قزوینی (talk • contribs) 13:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

FYI
The maintenance tag you complained about in this edit was actually added by 174.0.7.123 in this edit. AnomieBOT simply added a date parameter. Anomie⚔ 00:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Anomie Glad you noticed my edit, and thank you for the FYI. Be advised this was not a complaint. This was an observation of a superfluous maintenance tag which, regardless of origin, was redundant or unnecessary. It seems you are in the chain of authority of at least one bot responsible for perpetuating this tag. Uncluttered reading, adequate and clear citation, are not he domain of bots, but this is the essence of the Manual_of_Style, Editing policy and Responsible tagging. Your fyi is appreciated, as are I hope my edits in this and other fields where I have some expertise (in this case, Merchant Marine Captain, 18 years, retired). My purpose is to improve this body of knowledge, so I will remove maintenance tags freely, per the manual rather than inserting any, and credit the sources. I hope that you, like Wikipedia, appreciate the diligence necessary here.

I would prefer that the operators of bots keep a leash on them. No one likes unnecessary tags or the Tag bombing I see more often now.

Regards Ssaco (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Please do continue to improve articles and remove tags as you do so, it's good and needed work. But note that AnomieBOT never adds tags itself, it merely adds date parameters to tags added by humans to support listing articles by how long they've been tagged. Anomie⚔ 10:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Anomie, Agreed, understood, and thank you. Many bots do a fair job. I respond to the entirety of a paragraph or article, and most maintenance tags don't need a response when removed. When I do find an unnecessary tag it is fair to include its origin so that the originator can, if they have the skill, amend the automated process so that this kind of redundant tagging (where an adequate citation does exist at the end of a slightly longer paragraph and not immediately at the sentence) comes to the attention of the tagging entity. I'm not going to sleuth out the heritage of every maintenance tag. Lazy maintenance tagging is a nuisance to content editors like myself. I liken it to putting gas in a car that's wrecked on the side of the road. It should not have happened and should be removed, not validated. Good tags are appreciated. As I said, my original comment was not a complaint of the tag, but a notification that it was, in total, unnecessary. It is a wikipedia policy to not tag unnecessarily, adding to the ever growing list that you cite.
 * Regards Ssaco (talk) 13:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, as I said, AnomieBOT is not the origin of the tag. Pinging me via the edit summary when you remove a tag that AnomieBOT happened to add a date parameter to is worse than useless. Anomie⚔ 15:00, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive behaviour (Iranian nationalistic views)
Calling every edit you don't like as 'biased' and reverting without even looking at the reverted information properly is not really constructive. Please avoid that it in the future, thanks. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


 * It would be preferred if edits were encyclopedic, did not include overt references to a religion, or were politically motivated, and were relevant to to proper content in the historic order. Your editing help outside this will be properly appreciated. You removed a properly cited edit from a reliable source. I have looked properly at all the relevant content, and more, and fyi have been personally involved with this sport for decades.
 * I can appreciate how a personal background in politics or religion can color one's edits. Please see WP:Manual of Style for other discrepencies I removed.Ssaco (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I did in fact remove a small piece of sourced information, but that wasn't the reason I reverted the user - I reverted him because he added a random language and changed sourced information to make it fit more with his personal POV. Fyi, just because someone is from a certain country or religion doesn't mean that they are unable to do NPOV contributions on certain articles, or else Wikipedia would be a war zone. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

You will note please that this topic was previously discussed on this page December 2017, associated with the exact same citation in Polo but more aggressive edit warring by one user, and in coopeation with other neutral users and editors, which resulted in his account being suspended. I do not intend to be repetitively at odds with Iranian nationalist views, this is after all a sport, and a world view is necessary for this encyclopedia. I do intend to make further proper informative edits to this page. I would rather do this with the cooperation of other users. Let's please use this as a starting point to improve this. - Ssaco (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2018 (UTC)