User talk:Ssellva90/sandbox

Ssellva90 (talk) 03:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)Hey guys, just setting up the page - Shamini KinshukM (talk) 01:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC) Hey guys, I just copied whatever information wikipedia has on our topic to our sandbox so we have a place to start and expand from. - KinshuK

Ssellva90 (talk) 17:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC) Perfect, thanks Kinshuk! Shall we assign our parts then? So the wiki page right now sums up what we have to do. The parts are: The background (includes where we use the situation anaylsis and what it is), and the 5Cs: company, competitors, climate, collaborators and customers. - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 18:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC) Hey guys, I'm going to start assigning all our parts. Please tell me if you're not comfortable with the assigned parts. - Shamini KinshukM (talk) 21:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC) I'm fine with my section, thanks. Don't forget to take a screenshot of the page before anyone makes any changes to the article! - KinshuK
 * Background - Shamini
 * Company - Shamini
 * Competitor - Ayman
 * Climate - Andrew
 * Customer - Kinshuk
 * Collaborators - Ayman
 * SWOT - Kinshuk
 * Porters - Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)Yup, already did. - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 10:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC) This looks like it's going to be a pretty short article, since we only need to explain a bit about each C. For example, for company - give a few points on what you would include about a company in the report. Am I going on the right track here?

Ssellva90 (talk) 16:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC) I've changed the outline for the wiki article. Tell me if this structure works well. Also, Ayman (another member of our team) is having problems logging in. He says he made 2 accounts and can't seem to add himself to our team? Do you guys know how to help him out? Thanks. - Shamini KinshukM (talk) 16:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC) Can he be more precise as to what the problem is? Also, the new outline looks good. I will start adding content to my section tomorrow, a bit busy with another assignment today. - Kinshuk

Ssellva90 (talk) 09:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)I've emailed him, so we'll see what he says. And no worries about starting your section on Monday - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 16:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC) Hey guys, this is for the other two members (Andrew & Ayman) - we need to be communicating more on this page - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)No problem so i am working on the business climate? - Andrew

Kenshin666 (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)I will get right on it after i get off for the day and sorry for the late replies have to study for test and assignments- Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 18:54, 26 March 2012 (UTC)No worries :) I'm more worried about Ayman, since he hasn't replied back to me or signed into here - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 21:42, 26 March 2012 (UTC)What isssue is Ayman currently having? trying to register or cant access this page?-Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 01:07, 27 March 2012 (UTC)I think it just because he doesn't know this whole process well enough since he missed the last tutorial, so he was having trouble with his account. He said he created the account, but when I checked, his account was non existent. I told him what to do so we'll see what happens - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 00:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Should we divide up some of his work in case he cant access this page?-Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 06:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC)If we don't hear from him by tomorrow evening, we may need to divide up his parts. Hopefully he can fix his problem by tomorrow - Shamini

Aymankhn (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) now that the problem has been solved, I apologize for being this late. I will do whatever it takes to make up for the trouble I caused. I had already done some research regarding the marketing theory behind the tactics used by companies towards consumers however I am in no position to make requests. So, I am ok with the parts assigned to me. Ssellva90 (talk) 07:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Hey guys, since some of our marks are allocated to the content, we should probably add more information. Each of the 5cs dont seem to have much information from what I've been researching. Using the company segment as an example, we can add more information by doing something like this: (tell me if you guys like this idea)

Company
This includes the product line, product image, production technology, as well as company culture and goals (need to expand this and provide more info.)
 * Product line : expain a bit of what it is (but we link this to the main article...)Note: This should be a brief summary


 * Company culture: (explain)


 * Company goals : (explain)

Aymankhn (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) That was one of the things i was trying to say if my earlier messages had gone through. SWOT is a big part of situational analysis. Also we could talk about the positives and negatives of using it. Pointing to one or two particular cases would be better. I have added a few sections, let me know about how they would help the page

Ssellva90 (talk) 09:08, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Hi Ayman, thanks for trying to section the parts out, but they are'nt part of the situation analysis. The 4 principles of the marketing mix (the 4ps) & SWOT analysis are other analyzing methods that are used alongside the situation analysis in a marketing plan. Advantages and Disadvantages of the situation alanalysis is a good section though. I couldn't find any disadvantages & advantages of using the situation alanalysis, but if you did, please include them. As for the successful and failed cases, im not sure how that applies to the situation analysis...becuase situation anlysis just focuses on the 5cs and analyzing them. So im not sure where these failed and successful cases fit. thanks. - Shamini

Aymankhn (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) what i meant was elaborate on more then the theory by giving an example on the side rather then just saying "company A does or would do this"

Ssellva90 (talk) 09:38, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Sorry Ayman, i was mistaken. Looks like the situational analysis could include both the Pest & Swot, but the majority of the analysis is in the 5cs. We can create a section for both PESt & SWOT. We can describe what it briefly is and then link it to the wiki article which is more thorough. Sorry for jumping to conclusions guys! - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Ok so for my part do i mostly talk about the issues of doing business in a different country, like goverment law etc etc and how it affects the business environment?-Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 20:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Hey Andrew, I think your part is explaining exactly what a person should analyze when they are looking at the climate of a business environment. So, for your climate section, you would write about how a business analyzes the climate by looking at a list of things: political climate, economic environment, and etc. - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 20:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC) I don't think we need to write a lot for each of the 5c's since they're just lists of what to look at. We we need to be looking into other information, like the disadvantages and advantages of using situation analysis.. :s - Shamini KinshukM (talk) 20:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Sup guys, I'm now free to do this! I will finish my section today. Let me know if there is any other part of the article I can do since I'm only doing the customer section as of now which should not be taking up a lot of space. - Kinshuk

Ssellva90 (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Nice Kinshuk :D I'm going to try and finish my parts as well. Would you like to do a brief description of the SWOT analysis? - Shamini KinshukM (talk) 21:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Yeah I can do the SWOT analysis. I just finished the customer section. Let me know if its too brief or not. I'm not sure if we want to write more for each of those sections or if we just want a few lines. Either way, I can add more if it seems short. -Kinshuk

Kenshin666 (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)hmm okay so when were done our section should we input it together or do it separately, also my part is not that difficult so is there other parts i should be assigned to as well?-Andrew

KinshukM (talk) 21:49, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Just post your section when you are done with it. I just finished the SWOT analysis section but I cannot reference it correctly. The citation shows up in the paragraph but the link does not under the references section. Can anyone figure that out? This did not happen when I did the customer section so I'm not sure what's wrong - Kinshuk

Aymankhn (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Can we add on to others section? I have some information that will be useful that is if i have permission from you guys. I will try put my section up by tomorrow evening the latest. .

Ssellva90 (talk) 14:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Andrew, is it possible for you to do a brief summary of the Porters five forces?I found this source for you. and thank you!- Shamini Ssellva90 (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Hey guys, is it possible to fix your links? You can copy the format I've been using. Also, if there are any terms, try to link them to other wikipedia articles. And is it possible to explain more for each of the 5c's so its thorough?- Shamini
 * http://hbr.org/2008/01/the-five-competitive-forces-that-shape-strategy/ar/1

Ssellva90 (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)This is the grading for the paper:

1.Quality of the research and writing in the edits made

2.Mechanics (e.g. spelling, grammar, diction, etc.)

3.Understanding of Wikipedia policies and best practices

4.Understanding of the rhetorical approach appropriate for Wikipedia

5.Professionalism and teamwork in the writing process

So we need to make sure that out article is edited well and linked properly. - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC) Hey Kinshuk, I've fixed your first link, so you can use that format to fix the other link in SWOT. - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 15:17, 28 March 2012 (UTC)Sure no problem i will get on adding to the porter and uploading my climate part real soon-Andrew

KinshukM (talk) 17:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC) Ok thanks for fixing the link, I'll fix the rest. I'll add more to the customer section as well then.-Kinshuk

Kenshin666 (talk) 18:21, 28 March 2012 (UTC)i uploaded the Porter and the citation for the Porter can you guys check it over and see if i did the citations right? thanks in advance -Andrew

Aymankhn (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) I have it all done and I have send it to a couple of people for peer-reviewing or peer editing. I have to finish another big assignment, I am going to attend to that now so as soon as I get it back with feedback, I will upload it after fixing it and send it to shamini`s email. I have also done a few extra things that may or may not be helpful Ayman .

Kenshin666 (talk) 24:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ok i uploaded my part for climate as well can you guys check if it's in order? -Andrew KinshukM (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Looks good. Just waiting on ayman and I think we are done with the article right? -Kinshuk

Kenshin666 (talk) 01:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)I think so but Shamini needs to check and put it all together, i think but yes waiting on Ayman's part -Andrew Ssellva90 (talk) 02:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Hey guys, it looks great! I will also edit and then put it into the report. And Ayman, why do you want to send your part through email? We're supposed to be doing everything on here. Post your part up here and we can look at it. I really hope you can do it soon so that I can put this into our report. - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 04:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Shamini so are we finished? this was a pretty cool assignment -Andrew Ssellva90 (talk) 04:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Hey guys :) Is is possible to email your student numbers to me? and we all need to verify that we've edited this paper. Once you've looked over the paper, just pot here saying 'I've checked it and its all good.' or something like that - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 04:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)And Andrew, I think we're almost done :D we're just waiting on Ayman's part so that we can all do a final edit. And this was pretty cool- i finally know how to edit a wiki article! - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 05:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)I emailed you my student number, and also i've looked it over and it's all good!-Andrew KinshukM (talk) 05:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Hey Shamini, I sent you my student number. Also read the article, looks good. - Kinshuk

Aymankhn (talk)3:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)If the work has not shown up on here, I have send the work in an email to shamini. Sorry for being late. I know I had problems in the start but i knew what the topic was and did research. so, please give me good feedback on the group member evaluations. Ayman . KinshukM (talk) 07:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Hey Ayman, why exactly isn't the work showing up please explain. We are supposed to post it on the wikipedia page. If you send it to Shamini by email she will have to code it in for you. - Kinshuk

Kenshin666 (talk) 08:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ayman, it's pretty easy just click the edit button and copy and paste the content you wrote, the links can be add by looking at examples-Andrew

Ssellva90 (talk) 08:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ayman, please send me your student number by email. - Shamini

Aymankhn (talk)3:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Is it working now I removed it completely and readded the coding Ayman

Ssellva90 (talk) 10:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ayman, I haven't gotten to editing your part yet, but your sources (tutor2u & about.com) are not credible sources. They need to be sources that are trustworthy, like the sources you usually use in your essays - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ayman, make sure that when you write something, you cite it properly. Some of the info you put aren't even found in the website you cited. Im going to change and redo a part of your competitors - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ayman, if it's possible, can you confirm that you edited this article? - Shamini

Aymankhn (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC) andrew and me are at the tutorial. Did you send the work to the ta? Ayman . Ssellva90 (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)The TA sent an email saying there is no tutorial today. deadline is at 2 and we still need to fix the links so there are no reoccurring links. Im still working on fixing your part - Shamini

Ssellva90 (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Also, the article was not checked for spelling, which I am currently doing. - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Oh ok than i could've stayed home instead of coming, so deadline is at 2?-Andrew Ssellva90 (talk) 17:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Ya im done editing. and I'm doing the report and I'm about to put our article into wikipedia. Do you guys want to look over it briefly? I changed the content of competitors and collaborators since most of the information was wrong. And I fixed the links. Just give me a quick shout of to see if you guys agree with this - Shamini

Kenshin666 (talk) 17:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)i am okay with it, so i think you can hand t in any time-Andrew Ssellva90 (talk)Ok perfect. going to hand it in now. —Preceding undated comment added 17:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC).

Kenshin666 (talk) 18:01, 29 March 2012 (UTC)ok so are we finished and handed in? if so awesome-Andrew Aymankhn (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC) I had written it from the standpoint of being a business and now It is something totally different. The information was right as it is what I had learned in every business class till now (I even double checked the mgm textebooks). Nevermind now, it has already been handed in. I can hope that I can alleast get marks as i did my part despite all the problems. . Ssellva90 (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Sorry Ayman, but first of all you sent your part early in the morning on the day the assignment was due. And, I didn't change ALL of the info. But, the info you put for competitors was wrong. You had the right idea, but your info drifted off. And i only changed some of the parts for the collaborators becasue the sources you used were not proper. It would have been best if you did this work early and put it up so we could have all seen it and then helped you edit.And the mgm101 course is only a breif look into a business course. More info and research is needed in order to write more about your parts.