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Westgate chapel is a non-denominational church in edmonds washington located at 22901 Edmonds Way, Edmonds, Washington 98020. They have all of the apparent signs of being a fully functioning, god fearing, set of believers. However, having the appearance of something and actually being something is more often than not, two very different realities. When I refer to them as a collective whole, I am doing so due to the fact that they act like a collective whole. A very dangerous hierarchy of charismatic and two faced leaders who then pass their orders down through the ranks of enlisted workers. The workers then, regardless of the validity or truth of the orders, carry out the new standing orders as if they were reality. What happens if you go against the church? You are immediately ex-communicated from the church and everyone in it. They have begun to breed a form of Christianity that is brainwashing their members and all who attempt to seek refuge in the church. These people who go there to "seek refuge" are non other than those who the early church had been commissioned to protect and care for by none other than, not only the founder of the faith, but the actual meaning of the word Christianity, Jesus Christ. They do not protect the needy, they do not protect the hungry, they do not even protect the children that are brought to sunday school to learn about a savior who protects and cares for them. This sorry excuse for a church body not only protects the guilty and tries to silence the innocent to protect themselves and their pathetic egos, but also act much like a non existent branch of a government agency and covers crimes up. These crimes I am talking about are not church problems or theological issues, but child molestation and conspiracy.http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-071410-churchvolunteer,0,1163654.story, http://www.kirotv.com/news/24261289/detail.html, http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/07/22/edmonds-church-leaders-fail-to-report-abuse This is an absolute breeding ground for child molester's. Numerous accusations have been made against current and past workers/volunteers, some of whom are still walking around free because they have threatened the kids with killing them or their parents. Some of the accused false prophets work with young men in rehabilitation centers for the y.m.c.a, some own their own electrical companies, and some haven't been discovered yet. These men are both black and white, of assorted intelligence and skill. Not only did the church know about the situations, but they tried to cover them up, all the while masquerading as gods anointed ones. One of these pedophiles was very open to the church leaders as well as to the church body about his addiction to child porn. What did the all knowing prayer leaders do then? They made him head of children’s ministry when he was able to "control" himself. Another was simply asked if he molested a child and when he professed his innocence, they dropped the subject and moved on. This cult is moving forward at amazing speeds and is leaving broken lives in its wake. They profess to all of the basic christian beliefs; these are broken down into all of the core fundamentals of Christianity. GOD We believe that there is one God, eternally existent in three persons; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28:19,20; Deuteronomy 6:4; II Corinthians 13:14)

FATHER We believe God the Father is eternal, omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. God is absolutely holy, righteous, and just. His love and mercy was manifested in the atoning death of His only begotten Son on Calvary. (I John 3:24; Psalm 139:7-10; Matthew 19:26; I Peter 1:5-16; Zephaniah 3:5; Romans 5:8)

SON We believe in the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ, His virgin birth, His humanity, His sinless life, His miracles, His vicarious suffering and atoning death through His shed blood, His bodily resurrection, His Ascension to the right hand of the Father, and His personal return in power and glory. (Philippians 2:5-11)

HOLY SPIRIT We believe in the person of the Holy Spirit and that He convicts the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; is the agent of God in the regeneration of the lost; indwells all believers, sealing them in the Body of Christ unto the day of redemption; is the divine teacher who guides believers into all truth; and gives spiritual gifts of His choice to all believers. (Romans 12:3-8; I Corinthians 12; Ephesians 1:13,14, 4:11,12; John 16:8-13)

THE SCRIPTURES We believe the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be inspired by God, inerrant and infallible in their original writings, and that they are the supreme and final authority for faith and practice. (II Timothy 3:16,17; II Peter 1:20, 21)

MAN, HIS FALL AND REDEMPTION Mankind was created good and upright, but by voluntary transgression fell, is separated from God, and the only hope of redemption is in Jesus Christ the Son of God. (Genesis 3:1-7; Romans 5:12,21)

SALVATION We believe that salvation is the gift of God by grace alone and is received through repentance and personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, and His substitutionary death on the cross and resurrection. Assurance and evidence of God’s regenerating work will include the internal witness of the Holy Spirit and the external witness of a life being transformed. (II Corinthians 5:21; James 2:17; Ephesians 2:8, 9; John 1:12; Romans 5:8, 9; 10:9,10; 12:2)

HEAVEN AND HELL We believe that heaven is the home of the saved for eternity, and that hell is reserved for the devil and his angels and all those whose names are not written in the Book of Life. (John 14:1-3; Matthew 25:41; II Corinthians 5:1; Revelation 20:10-15)

THE CHURCH We believe that the body of Christ is composed of all born again believers everywhere, who are the habitation of the Holy Spirit, and that the local church comprises born again believers who come together for worship, fellowship, instruction, and Christian service. (I Corinthians 1:1-2, 12:13, 14:26; Colossians 3:10-11; Acts 2:42-47)

WATER BAPTISM We believe that baptism in water is the command of Christ for all believers and that it should be by immersion in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and shall be administered only to those who give evidence of being born again. (Acts 2:38; Matthew 28:19; Rom. 6:1-6)

LORD’S SUPPER We believe the Lord’s Supper is the command of Christ to be observed by all believers as an expression of God’s grace and presence with us. Each participant should examine himself for unconfessed sin before partaking. It is a memorial of our Lord’s suffering and death and is to be observed “until He comes.” (Luke 22:19; I Corinthians 11:20-34)

BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT We believe that the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a definite experience of God, distinct from and additional to salvation. This baptism is immediately available to every born again believer. In being “born of the Spirit” there is an impartation of new life in Christ. In the “baptism in the Spirit” there is an impartation of power for the fruit of the Spirit, for the manifestation (gifts) of the Spirit, and for witness. In scripture, speaking in tongues is the normative evidence of having received this Spirit baptism and is available for every believer. (Acts 1:8, 2:1-4, 2:38-39, I Corinthians 12:7-11, Acts 19:1-7)

HOLINESS We believe that the Bible teaches a life of holiness in response to the love of God. Sanctification is the will of God for all Believers to be earnestly pursued by walking in obedience to the Word of God through the power of the Holy Spirit. (Hebrews 12:14; I Peter 2:24; James 5:14-16)

FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT We believe that the fruit of the Spirit will be evident and growing in the life of the believer: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. (Galatians 5:22, 23)

DIVINE HEALING We believe that divine healing for physical, emotional, spiritual brokenness is a provision of Christ’s atoning death. Prayer for the broken and hurting is the privilege of all believers. (Isaiah 53:4-5; Mark 16:18; I Peter 2:24; James 5:14-16)

THE HOPE OF THOSE IN CHRIST We believe in the resurrection of those who have fallen asleep in Christ and their translation together with those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord and that this is the imminent and blessed hope of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16,17; Romans 8:23; Titus 2:13; 1 Corinthians 15:51,52).

THE FINAL JUDGMENT We believe that there will be a final judgment in which those without Christ will be raised and judged according to their works. Whoever is not found written in the Book of Life, together with the Devil and his angels, the beast, and the false prophet, will be consigned to everlasting punishment in the lake of fire which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death (Matthew 25:46; Mark 9:43-48; Revelation 19:20; 20:11-15; 21:8).

THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE NEW EARTH We, according to the promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness (2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21 and 22).

They quote the bible, preach in the name of god and have the appearance of helping the hurting people of the world, but they are not practicing the teachings of Jesus. They are by all signs and definition a cult. Is this the behavior of Jesus? Conspiracy, robbing children of their innocence, lies? If this is what the world sees then how are we supposed expect them to want to seek him. I am calling for an end to this blemish on the face of chistianity. You have all your clout to hide behind and nothing to show for it.