User talk:St170e/Archive 4

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Happy New Year! St170e, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Happy New Year ! Best wishes to you and your family. st  170  e  21:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Need some clarification on wikipedia page Mujaddid
I have requested some edit on wikipedia page Mujaddid, for details please refer to my comment on 'Semi-protected edit request on 2 Jan 2017' and 'Semi-protected edit request on 3 Jan 2017' on page Talk:Mujaddid.

But i got a reply from the editor that it looks contentious.

Though I still dont think that it is contentious but just to avoid that let me propose one more way of representing information in Wikipedia same as you guys have done on some other pages.

On Mujaddid page, it is mentioned that "The Shia, Ahmadiyya and the Naqshbandi order have their own list of mujaddids". Then as per this statement "Mirza Ghulam Ahmad" should be part of the "Ahmadiyya majaddid" page or list. So kindly make this thing visible on page that this list is as per Ahmadiyya OR "Ahmadiyaa muslim community" (This is what Ahmadiyya's called themselve) Re-iterating the point that 99% of Muslims dont consider Ahmadiyya as Muslims and countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Palestine, Indonesia, Saudi arabia and Palestine have defined them as non-muslims.

So only request is to make this visible on page that this list is as per "Ahmadiyaa muslim community" OR just remove "Mirza Ghulam Ahmad" name from the list. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.217.94 (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello. At the top of the page, you'll be able to see that Ahmadiyya has their own list. However, if you look at the page history, the information is disputed which is part of the reason why the page has a protection. I will not remove this for you as it is contentious. Please ask other editors on the talk page what they think, present your evidence and start a discussion. I will not remove this for you without consensus, sorry! st  170  e  16:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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File:Ukpassport-cover.jpg
Hi St170e. Are you aware that there is a freely licensed version of File:Ukpassport-cover.jpg already uploaded to Commons as File:British biometric passport.jpg? The only difference between the two appears to be a slight difference in color, but this difference is not really significant enough to justify additional uses of the non-free file in articles such as Visa requirements for British citizens and Passports of the European Union per WP:NFCC, WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. You can, however, use the freely licensed Commons' file in those articles if you wish. Moreover, if the licensing of the Commons' file is acceptable, then there's really no reason for Wikipedia to have a local non-free file per WP:F8. The most recent version of the passport coud probably just be uploaded as an update to the Commons' file, and I have started a discussion at c:COM:VP/C to see if this would be OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi - thanks for letting me know! I did change it because additional security features were added to the cover (i.e.: the gold is more refined and easily noticeable when comparing the two/small design features). I don't see how the front cover of the new passport though could be copyrighted, because the coat of arms was created before 1967 and has been in the public domain for too long. The rest of it is too simple for copyright. Thank you for bringing this discussion to light!  st  170  e  23:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Technical move request

 * I don't have an autoconfirmed account, I cannot move a page since the 'More' option doesn't appear for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lpgomar (talk • contribs) 18:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Performed this now, st  170  e  18:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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Friargate Bridge
Hello. I see you've had the extend mover permission for all of a few days, so perhaps this is just zeal to put your new-gotten tools to use, but please be more careful. First, just because someone tells you a request is uncontroversial doesn't make it so (in this case the requester did not notify anyone of his intention, so nobody had chance to object); it's your responsibility to check first. Second, it's usually a good idea to check with the author of the article to be moved. Third, the original title is not necessarily any more or less correct (the spellings differ in the sources). Last but not least, you should have left the request to an administrator; the simplest way to perform that move would have been to delete the redirect rather than make a mess by moving it to a third title. I'm not going to revert you because either title is valid and I'm nto going to take any other action mostly because I don't need the hassle. Just ... please be more diligent next time. Thank you, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  00:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . When I saw the request, I decided to have a look into it and it seemed to be an uncontroversial move, not least because the sources listed on the article verify the spelling. I searched the name too just to make sure and came across this website. The results on Google too showed the spelling Friar Gate, rather than Friargate. I did check before I moved this page, as I do with others. I didn't make a mess, rather I swapped the two page titles and re-targeted the new page at Friargate Bridge to Friar Gate Bridge. I don't see which redirect should have been deleted. If you do think that it shouldn't have been moved, I'd be happy to revert the move and contest the move request on your behalf. st  170  e  00:33, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Criticism of Walmart archive
The 730 days was my fault. I think at the time I set that the talk page had seen very little activity in years and it seemed reasonable. Thanks for fixing this. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries -- I noticed the talk page was getting slightly lengthy and needed archived. -- st 170  e  18:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Ukpassport-cover.jpg licensing
Hi St170e. We had previously discussed this file at User talk:St170e/Archive 4. At that time, however, I failed to remember Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 February 23. I did ask about the version you uploaded at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2017/01, and as a result I converted the licensing to PD, but that may have been a little too bold. So, based upon the FFD discussion as well as another post on the file's talk page, I decided to revert back to non-free. FFD and COMVP/C are both community discussions, I think we have to give FFD a little more weight when it comes to files uploaded locally to Wikipedia. I'm not saying the discussion on Commons was wrong, but the other person involved may not have been aware of the FFD discussion. The version you uploaded may be different in some way to qualify as PD or perhaps you can provide some evidence that the file is now PD. So, if you feel this is something which should be discussed further, the I think it would be best to follow WP:CLOSECHALLENGE. You could also bring this up for discussion once again at FFD to see if a new consensus can be established, but I suggest you at least let (the admin who closed the FFD discussion) know that you intend to do such a thing as a courtesy. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


 * , thank you very much for your efforts and your reply to me on this matter. I am not too concerned about the current state of things, but it would be good to have the copyright changed to PD. As long as the latest design is used on the British passport article, I don't think I will and I'll leave things stand. I'll change the image at Visa requirements for British citizens to a different image, but thank you for your efforts nonetheless. st  170  e  13:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding declined The Sims 4 expansion pack redirects
Good day sir/madam. I have noticed that you have declined my redirect requests for shortened versions for The Sims 4 expansion packs. I do not have an issue with this, and I actually agree with your reasons for declining the creation of the redirects, but I wish to inform you that there is a redirect to the The Sims 4: Outdoor Retreat article, which was the reason why I decided to make the requests: the redirect is just as vague as the redirects that I requested to be created, and according to the redirect page itself it is a leftover from a page move, but there are no pages that link to the redirect. I am unsure if you are the right person to make this request to, but due to the above reasons I feel that the redirect is redundant and should be deleted for consistency with the lack of equivalent redirect pages for the other The Sims 4 expansion pack pages.

114.75.78.136 (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks for your message. There is a process to delete redundant redirects and this can be found at WP:RFD. If you do wish to nominate a redirect for deletion, then you can follow the steps there for the deletion of the redirect. All the best, st  170  e  18:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the information. I will do as you have suggested.
 * 114.75.78.136 (talk) 18:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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15:26:34, 22 January 2017 review of submission by 202.168.62.236
Thank you for your help with this issue. Happy to close this discussion.

As I am approaching this article as per your guidelines for Creative Professionals, point 3 - "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." I feel that the rejection is unwarranted and deserves to be reconsidered.

So, if we are to focus on just one accomplishment - The subject is the lead and title character in a feature film (The Legend of Ben Hall) about a real historical character (linked in the article). He not only acted in this original work, but also co-produced the film. This film has distribution in Australiasia, USA, Europe and the Middle East - and is linked to its own Wikipedia page. It has won multiple awards, domestically and internationally, including Best Foreign Western by True West Magazine USA, and the score shortlisted for Academy Award nomination in the USA. The World Premier event sold over 800 tickets, and frequently sold out 300+ seat theatres around Australia during its promotional run. Most of the subject's publicity has been in print media, radio and television that are not available for online citation (example; see reference to written interview at the end of this article: http://www.who.com.au/article/entertainment/callan-mcauliffe-ive-always-wanted-to-shoot-a-film-in-the-aussie-outback) (example; see article linking to radio interview - http://www.3aw.com.au/news/ben-hall-returns-interview-with-ben-hall-director-matthew-holmes-and-actors-jack-martin-and-jamie-coffa-20161201-gt1neq.html). The references listed are relevant to the information provided, as opposed to specific articles that would reference specific pieces of information, such as things that would be written to further the article at a later time. As I have mentioned, I have kept the article short for the time being for simplicity's sake. Nowhere in your guidelines does it say that the citations need to be specifically centred around the subject, only that they substantiate the information provided. Hence, the references provided do just that.

As I have mentioned, the article has been modelled on a number of others that have been written on behalf of domestic actors at similar points in this subject's career, and several of those have been approved with less notable and fewer references, in some cases 4 or less from local papers and user-controlled profile sites. If the Wikipedia guidelines are so strict, why then does there seem to be so little consistency in their application? A simple google search will reveal dozens of articles on the subject, and yet you seem to be doing little else than skimming over the draft and rejecting it based on barely more than assumptions. Your initial rejection came so quickly it would have been impossible for you to have read the 16 references initially provided at all. (Example; see this reference where your claim that they are little more than a 'passing mention' is inapplicable, as the article has large portions directly from and about the subject - https://filmink.com.au/2016/mount-up-crafting-the-legend-of-ben-hall/)

If this further information is not enough, then I would greatly appreciate specific instructions on what it is you feel you need for this article to be approved. For example, "Please provide two further references for the subject," or "Please expand on the original draft so that further information can be provided to substantiate the subject's notability."

Thank you again for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.62.236 (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for your message. The WikiProject Articles for Creation (AfC) allows articles to be submitted and reviewed and Wikipedia policies are strictly adhered to and I do hope you appreciate this. Articles that are not independently reviewed have a higher chance of being subjected to being proposed for deletion. Wikipedia guidelines are applied consistently and articles that satisfy criteria and policies are only then approved at AfC. Not all new articles go through AfC, which is probably why you're seeing these articles with less than 4 references.
 * I would urge you to assume good faith. My rejection of your article came exactly three hours after you submitted it, so I would hardly say that was quick. A 'quick Google search' actually reveals more hits from Jack Martin Smith. But I'll now get into why your article was rejected.
 * The notability guidelines for actors are set out at WP:NACTOR, which is what I used to determine the notability of the subject in this case.
 * Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
 * Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
 * Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
 * Based on the references and information in the article, I determined that the subject did not meet these criteria and I rejected it based on this. The previous reviewer,, left a comment that notability is not inherited, which I believe you seem to be assuming. Just because he starred in the feature film, doesn't mean that he is automatically notable. You don't inherit notability from something you have taken part in. The actor guideline states that you're notable if you've had significant roles in multiple notable films. He starred in an episode of Home & Away; I wouldn't consider that to be notable in itself.
 * Per the guidelines set out at WP:GNG, you need significant coverage of the subject. You claim that a google search will reveal dozens of articles - then why did you not add them into the article? You need to pass notability guidelines if you want this article to be approved. But the subject isn't meeting WP:NACTOR at the moment, so I would recommend that you meet WP:GNG by adding plenty of sources that are significant, reliable and third-party. st  170  e  18:09, 22 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply, and firstly, my apologies as I thought I was addressing the original reviewer a second time. That is my fault. The reason I am using the guidelines for 'creative professional' is because of several fields the subject has worked in. As for the further articles for reference, I have mentioned that I kept the article simple in an effort to begin from a solid platform and build from there once the article was approved.


 * I fully understand that notability is not inherited, however this is not the case with this subject. The creation of this article has not come from nowhere, but on the back of a national publicity tour where requests from the general public were made for such an article.


 * To confirm, you are asking for further citations, but also more information about the subject in the article itself? (As the citations used have been provided only to substantiate the information provided, and nothing extra.) Or are you simply stating that one feature film (regardless of the two upcoming films) is not enough to satisfy your criteria at all?


 * Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.62.236 (talk) 04:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, no problem at all. If I were to approve this article, there would be nothing stopping another editor from proposing deletion. With the current state of things, there would be a high chance of deletion, so this is why I'm sticking by guidelines.
 * You need to prove that he has been the subject of articles, so add them in to the article. This may be a case of WP:NOTYET, though. There may indeed be wider coverage of the subject after the next two films are released, so I would recommend waiting until then because it doesn't seem like there are articles for those films yet. That would show that he has been in multiple notable films.
 * If you are still insistent on publishing this, then add as many citations as you can to the article that would help confirm notability. -- st 170  e  08:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help. The draft has been deleted. Not sure how to close this discussion though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.62.236 (talk) 12:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it'll eventually be archived. No worries, happy to help though. st  170  e  17:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

New edit on the Merle Hoffman entry
Hi! Wanted to let you know I have posted the new edit of the Merle Hoffman entry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Merle_Hoffman#New_Edit_of_Merle_Hoffman_based_on_your_requests

I tried to make it exactly how you recommended. Please take a look when you can.

Markdphillips — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markdphillips (talk • contribs) 18:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hi, st170e, Thank you for your help. I am extremely appreciative. Please look at my new submission. I have improved the citations quite significantly. I believe I have submitted enough reliable resources to show my subjects notability. All of the articles are reviews or interviews about the subject’s artwork. I have had to research a great deal since the majority of articles and reviews are in foreign languages but I choose to utilize the available English sources as much as possible. Obviously, I’m more concerned with getting the article itself up right now but originally, I added a number of images to the Wikipedia article which were rejected. I would still like to add them but I am not aware of how to have them uploaded to Wikipedia commons. The artist uploaded them himself the last time but they were rejected because he originally gave me permission to upload them and there was some understandable confusion about their legitimacy. I would like to know what the best way to fix this problem is. Thank you again for all your help and advice. Sincerely, Kevin — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinJardine (talk • contribs) 11:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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British passport image caption
Hi, just want to let you know that the EU-version of British passport is not the only design in circulation. British passports issued to persons who are not EU citizens do not have the words "European Union" on top, and British passports issued to residents of British Overseas Territories have a completely different cover. Hence the "EU branded" notion.C-GAUN (talk) 02:07, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The standard British passport has the EU name on the front. I'm aware of the different types, but the main article topic is on the passport issued to UK passport holders with EU a citizenship.  st  170  e  22:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

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Honor 8 edit requests
You were kind enough to help with an edit request on the Huawei Honor 8 talk page, so I was wondering if you might be willing to assist on the same article once again. One in a series of edit requests was skipped over. This request is to note a Guinness World Record verification. I've provided content and sourcing markup, so reviewing should be pretty painless.

On a related note, the edit request directly below was answered, but in the process of the updating the article, the opening sentence was removed from the "Specifications" section. I pointed out this error to the reviewing editor, but so far I've seen no response and this individual has not edited Wikipedia since 2/17. I am wondering if you might be willing to help with either of these tasks. If not, no worries, just thought I would ask. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Article on Adam Cooley
Hello st170e, Thanks for all of your help and support. I’m presently waiting for a review of my article on the artist Adam Cooley. I very much hope you will have a chance to review the article as I was happy to use the advice you had given me originally. I’ve made a lot of changes since the last time you saw it. I have tracked down a great deal more references and I think there is a lot of support to prove my subjects notability. This includes interviews, exhibitions, television appearances, art reviews and museum collections of his work by very notable museums. Thanks for your help. Sincerely,

Kevin KevinJardine (talk) 07:31, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Article on Adam Cooley
Hello st170e,

Thanks for all of your help and support. I’m presently waiting for a review of my article on the artist Adam Cooley. I very much hope you will have a chance to review the article as I was happy to use the advice you had given me originally. I’ve made a lot of changes since the last time you saw it. I have tracked down a great deal more references and I think there is a lot of support to prove my subjects notability. This includes interviews, exhibitions, television appearances, art reviews and museum collections of his work by very notable museums.

Thanks for your help.

Sincerely, Kevin KevinJardine (talk) 07:39, 24 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I will leave this review to another editor as I have already declined it. I would be inclined to decline it again because it hasn't answered my original concern. There is a long backlog at AfC so you may be waiting some more for a review. st  170  e  09:54, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

ET-Plus Guardrail COI
Hi, in Talk:ET-Plus_Guardrail I see you denied an edit request from a COI, but it seems that editor had gone ahead and made significant, possibly controversial edits prior to your denial, and in addition, their changelog claims they had permission! An attempt by another editor to have them clarify which editor approved it has gone unanswered. I'm not sure a wholesale undo is proper, as there are some beneficial changes, but to me it generally feels biased (enough that I had felt it necessary to check the edit history...) Thanks for your time! --Strangerpete (talk) 13:24, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for letting me know! I've reverted their edits after reviewing their changes. st  170  e  10:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response! I only just noticed this editor also did the same thing for Talk:Trinity_Industries - on the plus side, at least they waited 20 days after the request before making the edits; is there a policy on that? (I couldn't readily find clarification) --Strangerpete (talk) 11:38, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of such a policy. Conflict of interest editors must wait for approval. There is quite a backlog for edit requests. st  170  e  18:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Merle Hoffman edits
Would you be able to look at the edit of the Merle Hoffman entry once more? your last posting about it is in the parenthesis. Thanks for your time on this. I am trying to get it right! Talk:Merle_Hoffman

(When you resubmit this, remember to activate the template again or ping me. st170etalk 02:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)) Markdphillips (talk) 16:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for letting me know about this. I didn't realise you posted a new draft. I've reactivated the template for you. I haven't got enough time at the minute to look at it in more detail. If no-one else looks at this, I'll do it in a few days. I've taken a glance, but it still sounds a bit promotional. You can't say things like 'her efforts were instrumental'; instead, you need to word it as 'her actions helped....' - remember, it needs to be entirely neutral. st  170  e  22:03, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Merge discussion
You may be interested in this merge discussion. Regards, Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:33, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know  st  170  e  22:05, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hilton update
Hello, St170e. You've assisted with some updates to the Hilton Worldwide article in the past, so I thought I'd reach out to see if you might be willing to help again with one or more of the edit requests I've submitted, starting here. I see you are on a 'wiki break', so no rush, and no problem if you are not interested. Take care! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've had a look and I've completed a few of your requests. I'm on a break so I'll be less active over the next while, but if you do find yourself stuck for an editor to review your requests, I'll take a look when I'm next available. st  170  e  19:17, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I'll take a look now. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:52, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Grammer
Can you give me some examples of poor grammer at the 1939 Coventry bombing article? Excusing my confusion of where and were, I feel a bit insulted to say the least. Mabuska (talk) 09:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Apologies if I've insulted you, but the article does need copyediting. They're just minor errors and some problems with tone. For example:
 * The introduction needs to be better laid out. Remove comma before 'with seventy people injured' (I'd re-write this section to 'A bomb was left... and caused the deaths of 5 people and injuring 70 others.'
 * The second section uses both the 12 and 24 hour clock - this needs consistency. There are more where/were errors throughout the article and need fixing.
 * 'Damning evidence' - this is not of a neutral tone. Why does 'bicycle bomb' have quotation marks?
 * The Irish Free State did not exist after 1937 - this needs fixing. It's mentioned more than once in the article.
 * No apostrophe on Hewitts (in article: Hewitt's). I'd re-write this to make it sound better.
 * There is an underlying issue with tone in the article as it doesn't conform to WP:NPOV. For example, 'McCormick stood defiant' - is this really an encyclopaedic tone? Furthermore, the source says 'According to criminologist Steve Fielding, whose book Hanged at Birmingham covers the case, the two men were treated as martyrs in Ireland following their executions.' In the article, this is written as 'They were seen as martyrs'. To try and make the article sound neutral, I would also use the same wording as the source to ensure NPOV.
 * Change 'Some Irish' to 'Some Irish people' - the first one is too colloquial.
 * All in all, with the examples I've shown, the problem is not only the grammar, but the encyclopaedic tone which lacks in some places. 'A few dozen people' isn't encyclopaedic, but that is what the source says, so quotation marks should be utilised there. Hope I've helped. st  170  e  12:25, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes thank you and I will implement your suggestions when I get around to it. Stood defiant was as neutral a word I could think considering the wording in the source and not wanting to copy it word for word. Ironically I heavily edited the article to get rid of the apparent republican tone of it so trust me it's not my intention to create such a tone. Mabuska (talk) 15:13, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * In instances like this, it would be better to just quote from the source. Although I'd argue that the source relies too heavily on the BBC article. st  170  e  17:20, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Paula Jacklin page
Begorrah, begorrah bejayzus, iz dat roight? 86.173.10.189 (talk) 22:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Irish database
Hi, Do you know the site where collected all international Treaty of Ireland? I cant find. Thanks. Norvikk (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I know that Dfa.ie contains all the treaties to which Ireland is a member, but are you looking for the full texts? st  170  e  21:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, as in UK, Russia . --Norvikk (talk) 23:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This may be what you're looking for:  st  170  e  23:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you! --Norvikk (talk) 23:09, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Ian Paisley Jr.
I have reverted your WP:BOLD move of to  (without the dot).

There has been some discussion of the article name on the talk page, which didn't seem to each a conclusion. There are so many possible variants on the title of this page that it's better to stick with the current title unless there is a consensus to change.

I don't have a particular preference for one variant, but I do have a strong preference for stability of page titles. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. The last discussion on the talk page was over 9 years ago so I decided to move the page. I'll open a move discussion on the page instead. st  170  e  14:04, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. Yes, an WP:RM is a good idea. Whatever the outcome, we can at least stop this page hopping around like a frog -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:10, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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Edit requests
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 * Speaking of this, there is still a pending request waiting for you over at Talk:Merle Hoffman. The editor with the COI made some improvements and would like a review. I only ask of this because I know you answered this individual last time. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:29, 7 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi - thanks for letting me know. I've been moving country the past few weeks so I haven't been active at all on WP but I'll check the edit request out now. Cheers,  st  170  e  16:53, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Alice Walton
Hi, st170e! I am looking for editors to review this edit request for the Art section of Alice Walton. The Art section is in fairly good shape as it is, but there are a few areas that could be tidier. I appreciate any help. Thanks, Kt2011 (Talk &middot; COI:Walton family) 18:13, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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