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Christian conservatism
Do you personally agree with the disambig or are you just enforcing an AfD? D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  01:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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your recent comment
Do you realize you just told me I was entitled to !vote "keep" at an AfD discussion? Unscintillating (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Humiliation of Christ
Helo StAnslem, thanks for your amazing work on my newest article - Humiliation of Christ. Just to say that I've added it to the DYK nominations and wondered if there was any more work you could do (It's fine if you can't; you are the true DYK author). Also, if you had time, could you nominate my article? Thanks JZCL (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Notable?
Hi, Is this guy notable? He wrote Just James: The Brother of Jesus in History and Tradition by John Painter 2005 ISBN 0567041913 that I used as a ref. If he is we can start a page (feel free to start it), else will just let it be. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 12:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, so how much do you want to build the page? I can leave the image of a $100 bill on your talk page. History2007 (talk) 12:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Gospel
Hi, if you have time please. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is in breech of Canvassing & WP:HOUND - Ret.Prof (talk) 14:31, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's nonsense, it's neither. Dougweller (talk) 10:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Sabbath Rest Advent Church
Hey StAnselm, I've added a URL for that German handbook you already signaled--I can read it, through the US Google Books I suppose. The salient facts from that (brief) entry are now summarized in the lead of the article, and I've pruned it in other places. Feel free to revisit the AfD if you can read the entry now. Drmies (talk) 03:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK
JZCL started Template:Did you know nominations/Humiliation of Christ and I added 3 refs, but the article probably needs some attention, pre DYK, if you want to look at it, given that I am in the midst of a long, long debate on another issue and do not have time. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 18:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

editing from IP?
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Presbytery of Relief
It probably should be moved - and a lot more added. I cannot do it because Relief Church has some history. An administrator would have to. I have no idea which is the formal name, but Relief Church certainly seems more common. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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Robbins
Is Robbins notable enough for a page? He just showed up in Healing the blind near Jericho and has a link in Sayings of Jesus on the cross, etc. History2007 (talk) 04:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. History2007 (talk) 10:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Weed
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Hi, I was just wondering if you new why there was not page called Foreknowledge of God on Wikipedia. I've looked and I don't think that there's anywhere it could redirect to. History2007 says he's not sure if it is part of predestination and suggested I ask you. Appreciate any thoughts. JZCL 18:15, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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Simeon
Hi re. > I'm afraid you've got this all wrong. A simple google search came up with a Church of St. Simeon the Righteous and St. Anna the Prophetess. StAnselm (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC) That's probably a page someone has made translating following Wikipedia, since in Russian it is Церковь свв. правв. Симеона Богоприимца и Анны Пророчицы. No refs for Church of St. Simeon the Righteous and St. Anna the Prophetess in Google Books, the webpage you found was just someone's attempt to follow Wikipedia. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

In ictu oculi (talk) 23:16, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * And there is a Google Books result for "St. Simeon, the Righteous" here. StAnselm (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. In that long string as a attempt at translation of the name of a Russian church/feast yes, but the name of the feast is of the God-Receiver, Theodochos, the extra occasional adjective "[righteous правв.] Simeon God-Receiver" is not part of the normal feast title nor church name either in Russian or English translation of Russian, this is just a bit of random noise in translation. Thanks for doing disam cleanup by the way, I was going to go back and search for more myself. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we've ended up with the right result. Your page move was a good one. StAnselm (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I would like to propose, or second, your suggested Method of Jesus' execution title for the T-shaped/crossbeam article. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:Macarthur, New South Wales
Regarding this category, have your concerns been resolved regarding the formatting of the other categories in ? I note that they have all gone through the nomination process and have been or are in the process of being renamed to match the corresponding article. So in your opinion would it now be OK to rename the category to to match Macarthur (New South Wales). Whatever your response is, it would be great if you could post it at WP:CFDS, so the nomination can either be processed or shifted to a full CFD. Right now the nomination is just in limbo because you had objected to the speedy rename. Thanks so much, Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We'll get them all processed so they all line up nicely. If the article names ever change, we can arrange to have the categories changed as well. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Horne (politician)
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Page moves
I suggest you use WP:RM for controversial page moves. Moving Martha to Martha of Bethany was, in my opinion, a bad move. StAnselm (talk) 05:01, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you figure? There's a ton of notable Marthas, how can one obscure biblical Martha be considered more notable than the rest of them?  Even if she was (she isn't), it just doesn't make sense - consider Paul.  The Paul page lists a bunch of Pauls... including the biblical Paul, who by any measure is more well-known than Martha of Bethany or any of the biblical Marthas.  Please remember, wikipedia is for everyone, not just Christians.ArchieOof (talk) 05:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Clearly you spend a lot more time on wikipedia than I do, and your wiki-lawyering with regards to re-directing "Martha" to "Martha of Bethany" is a sign of a person who thinks they have the system down to the point where they can force their opinion onto others who aren't as wiki-savvy. However, since EVERY OTHER common name in wikipedia sends users to a name page, Martha is clearly no different, and was only an article about Martha of Bethany because no one noticed until a few days ago. There's absolutely no basis for sending a search for "Martha" to an obscure biblical figure, unless you're trying to use it as a means of "spreading the Gospel" I guess. Unfortunately, this isn't the appropriate place or method for your proselytizing.ArchieOof (talk) 05:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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RM closed and alternative Talk:Dispute_about_Jesus'_execution_method
Hi. RM for ...method closed and new RM opened as Method of... per your suggestion. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Another one
How about this guy? Just a lecturer, but seems to know his material. History2007 (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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David Southwick
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Icthys
The section was deleted by an unnamed editor, almost surely vandalism, since the heading was left behind with no info.

The following section about the Queensland EU and the Nimbin Rock Festival is also unreferenced.

This is, however, the only history that we have for the revival. I have asked the man who was responsible for the revival at Sydney Uni to go through his nine large filing cabinets and find an appropriate reference, but he hasn't done so.

It should be returned, regardless, referenced or not, with the tag saying that it IS unreferenced. Otherwise there is no history. People are entitled to the info.

If you leave it stay, sooner or later someone from the EU may find the reference. If you remove it, no-one will.

There is a good case for removing material that is contentious, if it is unreferenced, but there is no case for removing appropriately-tagged uncontentious material that can be verufied, but hasn't been.

Amandajm (talk) 02:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is a big claim to make! The revival of the symbol was a brilliant promotional idea, by a very clever man.  Look where it has gone!  The student, John Diesendorf, went from Sydney to Queensland to do a Masters, and then back to Sydney to International House.
 * While the claim is "big", the revival had to come about somehow. You have no other explanation, because this is it.  I will chase John some more for a reference.
 * In the meantime, if you are located in Sydney, you might be better positioned to track down the reference than I am.  Amandajm (talk) 02:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Last Adam
I think you did the right thing to start that. It is so close to DYK, if you have time please just do it. Needs just a little more text. It deserves it. I am too busy now to even try.... But I can look for a good image of say a Pauline text... History2007 (talk) 16:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Matthew 5:17-48
Hi, any comments on Talk:Expounding_of_the_Law? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 19:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Soccer -> Football ---Sydney based media
That text should have been sourced, but I do recall some intense discussion with the difference between Melbourne and Sydney based media coverage of the game being discussed, particularly from The Age and SMH, both from the same stable, but using very different naming conventions. Let's face it, football preferences and names do differ dramatically across the country. I won't revert your revert, but just wanted to point out that there was some logic behind what was there. It's now a little bit less informative. HiLo48 (talk) 08:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Presbyterian Church of Victoria
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Challies a reliable source?
Hey, just asking a question about the Challies source on the Real Marriage article. The reason I'd initially added the blog for Tim Challies is because he's a contributor to the Christian Post, which usually reposts all of his blogs on their website. If his blog isn't usable via his website, would it be usable via the Christian Post website? I know that 99.9% of blogs are unusable, but I didn't know if this would be one of those rare exceptions or if it'd be usable when it's reposted via the Christian Post, which seems to be a frequent source here on Wikipedia. Either way, I'm good as there's still other sources on the page, but I'm more curious about this for future reference. If neither source is usable, it'd save a lot of cleanup time in the long run.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I didn't even know that it had those types of blogs- I'm glad I asked! This will hopefully save a lot of cleanup later on down the line!Tokyogirl79 (talk) 03:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Conservative Christianity as a DAB
Hello, StAnselm. I initiated a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation that you should probably be involved in. I bumbled into the thing when editing the page Conservatism (disambiguation), but it seems clear to me that you know much more about Conservative Christianity – the page and the thing – than I do. Cheers, Cnilep (talk) 00:29, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Seeking your opinion
Hi, I have looked at God in Christianity and I think it can at best be described as "neglected". Although that has the fortunate implication that there is no contention or debate, the page seems to be suffering from pure neglect - images and templates thrown around at random, unsourced sections - and it is anyone's guess how correct the content may be.

Of course God's page gets viewed only 12,000 times a month (compared to over 600,000 for Johnny Depp) but that is still a key page for WikiProject Christianity and should be in much better shape. I have started a discussion on the talk page there, and your comments will be appreciated. I have also asked Esoglou and Jpacobb to comment so if you could discuss the issues together and suggest improvements, or even better improve the page that would be great. Thanks History2007 (talk) 14:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Message left at talk page
for the Australian politician's page (Cory Bernardi) - I am inviting you to respond.

THanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cursesonabauumy (talk • contribs) 18:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Advice
Learn how to read English. Intoronto1125 Talk Contributions  22:23, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Self publishers
Hi, FYI, at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_reliability a drive to slow down self-published book references is getting started. Would you like to join that project? Membership is free. History2007 (talk) 21:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Category:Christophanies in the Old Testament
This is a pretty dubious, and dubiously titled, category, is it not? Johnbod (talk) 23:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Templates
Who was right, Old StAnselm or New StAnselm? Novaseminary (talk) 03:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Joses
For what it might be worth, I more or less started around here creating articles about individuals who are recognized as saints by various churches, based on the old Holweck encyclopedia. Most of them were people I had never heard of, and more than likely will never hear of again, because of their relatively minor status. That book has about 11000 entries, but I started the articles, basically in alphabetical order, because I thought them worth including. The category and banner of saints are present on the above article, but I don't see any particular evidence in the article itself that the individual involved ever has been specifically declared to be a saint by any group. If you were led to your comments based on the presence of that category and that banner, then I would welcome your own independent review of the topic to see if you can produce any evidence that the subject ever has been considered a saint by any group - like I said, I have never seen any. If you cannot, then it seems to me that, perhaps, you might perhaps choose to reevaluate your comments. Thank you for your rapid response in any event, by the way. John Carter (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Abbey
Hi, Nice job of disambiguating there, by the way.

Did you investigate the mysterious Earl of Warren?

A different article in 1911 Britannica has "earl of Warren (son-in-law of William the Conqueror)".

Bingo!

But of William's daughters, two are nuns, two marry Frenchmen. Neither Frenchman has Warren as a secondary title (for his English estates presumably).

The date, AD 1077, does fit a son-in-law, however.

Varlaam (talk) 16:24, 30 April 2012 (UTC)