User talk:StGilesUpdater

August 2020
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, St Giles Trust, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 13:38, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, StGilesUpdater. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page St Giles Trust, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
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 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 14:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Hello StGilesUpdater. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:StGilesUpdater. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 15:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Paid editing includes unpaid volunteer work as well. 331dot (talk) 15:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Re: August 2020
Our only reason for change it is that the page as it stands is inaccurate and very out of date. I put in a fair amount of effort into bring that article up to scratch, to provide decent information, sources &c., only to have that reverted at the flick of a switch.

If it is going to be a huge hassle on our time and resources as a charity to update and maintain this page can you possibly just remove the Wikipedia entry for St Giles?

From our point of view we don't need it, don't know who originally set it up but we feel it is incumbent on us to keep it accurate as we are a charity providing frontline services. If our clients or other interested parties stumbled upon the article as it stands, it would provide a highly inaccurate view of what we do.
 * Please state on the article talk page what exactly is inaccurate and it can be changed, as long as there are reliable independent sources to support the changes. The article belongs to Wikipedia though and we have no interest in what the trust wants to say about itself. Theroadislong (talk) 11:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You still must make the paid editing declaration as described above. I would add that while Wikipedia strives to be accurate, it is not intended as a source of up to the minute current information. That should be provided on your organization website. As noted, if there is incorrect information in the article, we want to know what it is, but we are primarily interested in what independent reliable sources say about article subjects, not what the subject wants to say about itself.
 * Wikipedia articles exist regardless of the wishes of the subject. Unless you want to attempt to argue that your organization does not meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable organization, the article will not be deleted just because the subject wants it to be. 331dot (talk) 15:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)