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Hello Stacey, we need to decide on who's going to be writing what for the article creation. Stacey do you mind writing a small introduction, summing up important facts about Mark Griffiths. I could be doing an education history / early years. Whilst Elena could be going for major topics of his research and Oliver to do a list of his current work, do you all agree with that? We can tweak it at any time in case there's not enough information on a particular subject.

Mraleksrs (talk) 11:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Alex, yes that sounds good :) .Iv set up a reference list on my sandbox so if you want to add to that just see what i have don :)

Staceysavage1991 (talk) 11:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I am good with that. I'll keep my references in my sandbox and try to sort out how to point you to that :), if not I'll just copy/paste it here when it comes to it.

Elir9 (talk) 11:37, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Stacey, I found that interview on the web that gives important information that you can easily use in the introduction such as the line: Dr. Mark Griffiths is a Chartered Psychologist and Professor of Gambling Studies at the Nottingham Trent University. the url is: http://www.psychblog.co.uk/interview-the-gambling-man-prof-mark-griffiths-119.html

Mraleksrs (talk) 11:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * this should be useful :http://www.thepsychologist.org.uk/archive/archive_home.cfm/volumeID_18-editionID_130-ArticleID_968-getfile_getPDF/thepsychologist%5C1205amen.pdf.

Staceysavage1991 (talk) 12:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Stacey! That is quite helpful. I also found a little bit of info on the awards he has received so I will take on that as well. :)

Mraleksrs (talk) 12:04, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have posted a draft of early education and career onto the sandbox, feel free to leave feedback and edit.

Mraleksrs (talk) 14:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * looks good, I have edited a little bit, adding links to the university web pages :) Staceysavage1991 (talk) 14:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks I will make sure to update the draft on my sandbox too in order to keep everything up to date! :)

Mraleksrs (talk) 14:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Guys, I found something that might be of interest, that we can add to the page. I think it's something Oliver can research even furthed.On Mark Griffiths' Academia Edu page he has stated his research interests, I'm sure his blog will have even further information if we look at the article's tags. I'll drop a link of his Academia Edu profile page --> http://nottinghamtrent.academia.edu/MarkGriffiths Mraleksrs (talk) 03:23, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I think Elena was doing his research interests?? or do you mean in depth? Staceysavage1991 (talk) 11:00, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah she actually is, I'll make sure to send her a talkback message so she checks the website in case it's of any particular help/interest to her. Mraleksrs (talk) 13:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk: Wiki project- Mark Griffiths
Hi, I've been looking up everything that is on ebridge to make notes and get a better understanding of what we need to do.

In terms of the assessment coming up, the presentation in 10% and the 1500 word write up is 40% but all based on our wiki page so I think we need a day to meet up to start planning the page etc.

So for the presentation we need to discuss the content on our page and reflect on group interaction and interaction with other wiki users.

For the write up -20% is content of the page, 30% is understanding of Wikipedia, what we have learnt and what problems we have encountered. 40% engagement on Wikipedia.

From what I have read in terms of writing an article: We need to start with a summary of Mark Griffiths, including a statement that states why he is noteworthy and then a source from outside of Wikipedia to confirm it.

In terms of structure it is recommended that we have : Lead section- summarising the key points covered in the article, and should be without a header. Body- following the lead section, including subheadings and headings. Appendices and footnotes- appearing after the body of the article, may include bibliographies, links to other Wikipedia pages, notes and references.

Some of the sections I think we should try and cover about Mark Griffiths is education, research fields, recognition .. If any, and his work...

Staceysavage1991 (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * There's already an article about Mark Griffiths the musician. Is that the same person? I'm guessing not. Who is the Mark Griffiths that you'll be making an article about? Where does he teach? What does he research? Regarding how to start an article, there's some great information at Starting an article. Let me know if you need any help! --Geniac (talk) 18:04, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * In response to the above message, we re going to be researching Mark Griffiths the British psychologist working in the field of gambling and addiction. The only thing that the person in matter and the one you have suggested have, is the name. We are currently researching if there's a good enough reason to publish a page about Mark, the psychologist, if he is noteworthy for Wikipedia. Mraleksrs (talk) 10:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, I see. It appears from the draft being worked on at User:Staceysavage1991/sandbox that "your" Mark Griffiths is primarily known for his work in the field of psychology, and that being a professor in that topic is a secondary thing stemming from the first. Is that accurate? It's not a problem to have people with the same name, each with an article; that conflict is solved by disambiguation. For example, there's an article for the lead singer of The Cure at Robert Smith (musician) then there's an article for the 18th-century mathematician of the same name at Robert Smith (mathematician). --Geniac (talk) 19:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the useful information Geniac. Based on out current findings we can justify that Mark Griffiths is mostly known for being a psychologist and some articles even state that he is known for that internationally, rather than for being a lecturer at Nothingham Trens University, so we will go with Mark Griffiths (psychologist) in order to make the disambiguation.

Mraleksrs (talk) 23:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Also we need to put the following in our article - > Elir9 (talk) 11:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Geniac, thanks for the response, If you wouldn't mind would you be able to have a look at what we are working on so for and maybe give us some advice on what needs adding/ changing, the draft copy is currently getting put together in my sandbox Thanks . Staceysavage1991 (talk) 15:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok... it looks like you're working hard on putting your draft together. Some random things I noticed: In general, it looks like it's coming together. It needs some work still, but I figure you knew that already. These are a few issues I noticed off the top of my head. --Geniac (talk) 01:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Make sure all the external links in the refs work. A few of them have a comma at the end of the URL, which is breaking the links.
 * There should be more secondary sources. Several of the current refs are primary sources. They should be in the minority, not majority.
 * It is mentioned he has won some awards, but not who these awards were given out by. Awards don't necessarily mean anything if the group giving you an award isn't reputable or prestigious.
 * There are mentions of how many books, articles, and so on he has published, but the draft is this close to explaining how all his research has impacted his field of study. See Notability (academics): "Having published does not, in itself, make an academic notable, no matter how many publications there are. Notability depends on the impact the work has had on the field of study."


 * Thanks for taking the time to look over it, will get working on what you have suggested! Staceysavage1991 (talk) 16:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have just added the achievements and awards section to Stacey's sandbox. As some of the awards came from notable institutions, I believe we have managed to prove Prof. Griffiths' importance and impact in the fields he is researching, covered in another section. Geniac, do you think there are more issues we need to tackle? Mraleksrs (talk) 14:03, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Even if there are some issues, that's okay. There are issues with even the most well-written articles. Remember that Wikipedia is a work in progress. No article will ever be "finished". You have a few duplicated refs that could be formatted with "named references" (see WP:REFNAME). After the intro, the subject of an article should be addressed by just his last name, or "he". Not even "Professor Griffiths", just "Griffiths". These are two things that popped out at me, but they're certainly not major issues, not deal-breakers. Based on his awards, influence and achievement, he appears to meet Notability (academics). If you're confident that he does, and think the article is ready to be moved out of sandbox, you can submit it for review by clicking the words "click here" in the sentence "If you are writing an article, and are ready to request its creation, click here." in the box at the top of the sandbox. --Geniac (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox
This is the response i got from tea house, regarding Using sandbox as a group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staceysavage1991 (talk • contribs) 09:25, March 4, 2013‎


 * I've hidden the text copypasted from Teahouse/Questions. Instead of copying it here, you could have made a link to that discussion, just like I did in that previous sentence. This is a better thing to do because if somebody else replies to that discussion, it won't automatically show up here, and the copypaste didn't format correctly; some of the links were broken.
 * The users in the Teahouse gave you good advice regarding the uses of sandboxes. Once you get a bit of information written in your draft at User:Staceysavage1991/sandbox, use the "click here" link at the end of the sentence, "If you are writing an article, and are ready to request its creation, click here." and it'll be formatted for review by the fine folks over at Articles for creation. --Geniac (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)\


 * hi sorry on just noticed this, thanks for telling me about this, I will use that next time :), really appreciate the advice . Staceysavage1991 (talk) 09:17, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

workupdate
Hi I have been adding to the page, just wanted to double check Alex was you working on recognition and Elena was you working on his research fields?? any other suggestions what we could add?? Staceysavage1991 (talk) 22:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I have been working on my research and got just a sample thing in my sandbox, but then for some reason it deleted it x/, so I'll be finishing it tomorrow for sure and posting it in my sandbox and as a message here! Basically how I was thinking to structure it is as a general explanation for his area of research and then a list of his works, linked to the actual piece in an online archive. Hopefully I'll find links for all his work :)

Elir9 (talk) 22:51, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ahh really, if you look in the history you should be able to find the deleted stuff. yeah that sounds good, I have already got a bit of a list together of his work, if you have a look on the sandbox, but if you just describe a little bit about some of his research fields that would be good, Henry Jenkins page is a good example to look at for ideas if you need it, that's what I have been doing


 * Just to confirm, I have summed up his Educational history and am currently making sure I have all his acknowledgements and awards listed in the right order and doublereferenced, will hopefully put it up in Stacey's sandbox by end of tomorrow. Mraleksrs (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * hey this site may be useful http://journalisted.com/mark-griffiths#tab-bio . it includes a list of all his awards if you havent already got them :) Staceysavage1991 (talk) 13:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, okay I'll do what you said Stacey, it is a bit different from what I had so far but never mind it is not gonna be a problem. If you would like you can put a link to his first work like so -> PhD on fruit machine addiction, so if people are interested to know what exactly he researched in his PhD, they can have a look at the abstract.
 * Also we should start thinking what to put in the slides for the presentation on Monday.

Elir9 (talk) 15:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Just do what you are doing then, just didnt want you to end up doing the same thing that I have already done. Okay, do you think I should add that to Alex's bit? It is already in the list of his work. and yeah, maybe we could meet up to sort it out, is tomo or friday good for you? Staceysavage1991 (talk) 15:15, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No, that is fine, I'll change it because you already have it done, no worries. Thursday before 2 will be a good time for me.Elir9 (talk) 15:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * oky :) Il see what the alex and oliver can do, can you think of any other topic we can ask oliver to research? Staceysavage1991 (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I added my part of the research, take a look and feel free to edit! Also to Stacey, I've found a pretty full site, provided by Nottingham Trent University, where they have listed all his work. You can add that to the ones you've already put down if you would like to. The link is THIS. Also the edit you might see to the initial piece was something I did with a link, I removed it thinking that was the one wikipedia was saying in was blacklisted, but it turned out to be a different one, so I've put it back :) Elir9 (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice looks good thanks! and okay tar, I will have a look and get more edited :) Staceysavage1991 (talk) 18:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Heyy guys, I will try and sort out the Awards and Recognitions by the time we meet tomorrow. Thank you Stacey for the website you posted above, it is quite helpful. Mraleksrs (talk) 21:25, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

feedback
Hi, After asking for some feed back on our page we got a helpful response back:

''Ok... it looks like you're working hard on putting your draft together. Some random things I noticed:'' ''Make sure all the external links in the refs work. A few of them have a comma at the end of the URL, which is breaking the links.''

''There should be more secondary sources. Several of the current refs are primary sources. They should be in the minority, not majority.''

''It is mentioned he has won some awards, but not who these awards were given out by. Awards don't necessarily mean anything if the group giving you an award isn't reputable or prestigious.''

''There are mentions of how many books, articles, and so on he has published, but the draft is this close to explaining how all his research has impacted his field of study. See Wikipedia:Notability (academics): "Having published does not, in itself, make an academic notable, no matter how many publications there are. Notability depends on the impact the work has had on the field of study."

''In general, it looks like it's coming together. It needs some work still, but I figure you knew that already. These are a few issues I noticed off the top of my head.''


 * I have fixed the links that were not working, if any one adds any more just copy the code already on there and it should work fine :).

In terms of the awards mention I presume ur next section on recognition will cover that Alex?? Hows it coming along, nearly done?? And also Oliver will your work cover the bit were we need to explain "how all his research has impacted his field of study"??

Staceysavage1991 (talk) 16:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Just so the question does not stay without an answer, I had it put in the section above, as it currently stands I have uploaded the Awards and Recognitions sections of out article in the sandbox. Mraleksrs (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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