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3nen B-gumi Kinpachi Sensei
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Re:Royal Canadian Mint - Vancouver 2010
Oh, thanks :) Yeah, I'll probably end up buying them too if I don't collect them all.  I have all of the old provinces/territories by the way, and I'm in the process of getting all of the new ones too.  Do you know where I can get a case for them? --Bolonium (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

re: AKB48
I was not aware of this development. Honestly, I haven't heard of anything about their latest single since it is difficult for me to acquire information. However, the incident is not serious enough to have it own article IMO, so perhaps we can create an article for the single, and incorporate this incident in a separate section on that article. It would be even better if we can find out which article in the Japanese Law prohibits this commercial strategy, but it won't be necessary if we can't find it.

Well, I haven't buy any other AKB48 merchandise lately, since it is hard to find any online store that sells them. (some sites do, however, sell their DVD, but they are all in region 3 codec and I can't play it...) So how did you buy their merchandise, given the fact that you are in Canada? --K kc chan (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if this incident alone would meet Wikipedia's notability requirement, since the strategy has been called off and no one is pressing charge. We can implement it either way, if one way doesn't work then we can switch to another.


 * So are you an exchange student or an immigrant?


 * --K kc chan (talk) 23:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Just wondering... I have met many exchange students from Japan, but never an immigrant, and I thought you are an exchange student at first but wasn't sure. --K kc chan (talk) 00:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Asking for a favour
Hi, Staka! Nice to meet you! I'm here to ask you one favour - could you help me changing my username in Japanese wikipedia? Could you translate the following words into Japanese:
 * "Could you please change my username from "..." to ",,,". The reason: I want to have the same username in all wikipedias"

Thank you :) --Visconsus (talk) 19:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

どうもありがとう. Yes, we haven't meet before. Sorry if "hi!" and "nice to meet you!" sounded too casually. Well, if you want to know, my current name in Japanese wikipedia is A.A.J.S. and it will be changed to Viskonsas :) --Visconsus (talk) 20:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Densen Uta
Since some AKB48 members appear in Densen Uta, should we create an article for it? --K kc chan (talk) 06:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds like the plan. Is there a Japanese Wikipedia article about this movie? --K kc chan (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have just created the article Densen Uta. It's not much but it's a start. --K kc chan (talk) 17:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * We can add a section for the cast, put more information on the plot, and maybe how this movie was received in Japan. If you can't get the DVD, I may be able to take some snapshots from the clip and use them for the article. --K kc chan (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that on the AKB48 article, there is a movie named Denshouka listed under the Movie category. Far as I know, the only movie AKB48 is involved as a group is Densen Uta. Do you think it's a simple mistake by some editors, or there is indeed a movie by that name? --K kc chan (talk) 23:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Royal Canadian Mint Olympic Coins
Hello. I am sorry for the long response time. Please note that I do not have a scanner, nor do I have access to coin images so I never thought about using images. If you look at the page for the Canadian Twenty-Five cent coin, there are images of three Olympic twenty-five cent coins. Maple Leaf (talk) 16:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

AKB1じ59ふん!
Do you know if AKB1じ59ふん! is a regular TV program? If it is, then we probably should create an article for it. --K kc chan (talk) 16:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have not heard about the name change. Anyway, if we are to create an article for this program, do you think it would be better to romanize the name completely or simply AKB 1:59!? --K kc chan (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems that the name change will occur in April. How about we start the article after that? --K kc chan (talk) 09:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Toronto Japanese School
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Earth Hour image
Just curious as to why you've switched the Google image from Image:Google earth hour.PNG to Image:Earth Hour on Google.png. The second image seems to waste a lot of space. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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BarinStorm (sweden)
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 * I'm not the author of the article. --staka (T ・C) 05:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Twinkle saw you as the author because your name appears first at . Thank you for telling me. I'll notify the real creator. -- Neil N   talk  ♦  contribs  05:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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Userbox
I just wanted to let you know that on your userbox: WikiProject Anime and manga/Userbox/User Weekly Jump, it spelled manga with an "s". That is an incorrect spelling, maybe someone should change it to "manga" instead of "mangas". Thank you. –  「ＪＵＭＰ ＧＵＲＵ」 @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 20:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Same with Shonen Sunday userbox. –  「ＪＵＭＰ ＧＵＲＵ」 @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 20:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They're your userboxes, just making sure. –  「ＪＵＭＰ ＧＵＲＵ」 @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 23:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Page
Thank's a ton for your help...... how did you find the page it's like imposible? –  「ＪＵＭＰ ＧＵＲＵ」 @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 17:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dang it! I didn't think about the contributions! Anyway thanks. –  「ＪＵＭＰ ＧＵＲＵ」 @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

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Love Psychedelico
Hi, I noticed you removed an album cover image from the infobox for this band. I'm not sure that even with 2M unit sales, the album merits a separate article so this is the last use of the image, and it would be subject to deletion. I've not done much with bands lately so perhaps standards have changed... Do you have a reference to a project guideline or manual of style entry that supports this removal? Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 15:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (Refactored from User_talk:Lar per my policy) I believe this could let you understand the Wikipedia's policy for the non-free album cover use on Wikipedia: Non-free content. Album covers cannot be used in the article for the band or artist itself. Also, only free images can be used to identify living people as it also says in that section. And I don't think that section of a guideline has been modified for a long time.. --staka (T ・C) 16:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The only mention of the term "album cover" in that guideline (it's a guideline, not a policy, but I take guidelines seriously as a guide to accepted practice) is in reference to discography lists/articles. This is not a discography, it's the main article for the band. So that guideline doesn't support your removal, I don't think. Please keep researching if you would. Meanwhile I will see if enough information exists about the album itself to write a meaningful article on the album. If I can't find enough information, and you can't find a policy or guideline or style guide that addresses band articles (not discographies), I probably will be reverting your removal. Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the encyclopedia. ++Lar: t/c 16:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I asked the question who hours ago here: Help desk. That user said the album covers cannot be used in the discographies section or any sections for the identification of one small thing, however, he says that it can be used in the band's infobox, I believe. --staka (T ・C) 21:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional followup on that! So it sounds like it was a legitimate use. Meanwhile I did not find enough to write a spinout article on that album. So, shall I revert it back in or do you want to? Let me know. Happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 23:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added back the album cover and also removed the fairuse orphan template from the album page. --staka (T ・C) 00:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! I look forward to our future encounters... Happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 01:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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CIA personnel estimate
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re: Koizora
Thank you for the answer. It sounds like a kind of Densha Otoko with DMB by another anonymous author. But I think the article still needs a brief description about the "cell phone short story" for readers who're not keen to the multimedia culture. If the term was only found in Japan, a relevant article might be needed. Regards. --Appletrees (talk) 17:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008
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Re:AKB1じ59ふん!
Do you know about the content of this program? Since I don't really know Japanese, you may have to do most or all of the translation. --K kc chan (talk) 17:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Thanks for the info~ I'll be sure to check it out. --K kc chan (talk) 04:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability of SKE48
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"Odd kid"?
Did you not realize what you reverted to? The page doesn't really need the individual prices of bonus material.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 20:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Odd as in you removed and edited, minimized all the paragraphs but you didn't really italicize and watched for your grammar in your edit, so I had to fix.. and that was my edit summary for my edit towards your last edit. --staka (T ・C) 03:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008
WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008
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Please check the Te o Tsunago, it is on Shrek Goes Fourth
Please check the Te o Tsunago, it is on Shrek Goes Fourth. And also look for the Shrek Goes Fourth wherether got Te o Tsunago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.53.225.76 (talk) 13:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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DSM-IV Proposal Input
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Platinum
If you can find Japanese third party sites mentioning the new WiFi and Battle Frontier stuff, then it can be something to mention in the article. Otherwise, it's just trivial information that comes from the official site and materials.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 02:22, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Battle Frontier and stuff were added to the Emerald article when it existed. The differences from Diamond and Pearl section will remain the same size, not expanded at all, if these information can't be added. And may also not be reasonable to have its own article at all, like Emerald being merged to Ruby and Sapphire. --staka (T ・C) 03:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because something happens to one article doesn't mean it will happen to a similar article.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙 ) 05:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well Emerald was merged.. meaning not notable enough to gain its own article since mainly the same as other two previous versions. --staka (T ・C) 15:58, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (August 2008)

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 * AfD is better than Proposed Deletion.. good choice you made. (I don't care about the article) --staka (T) 19:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)