User talk:Stan Lusby

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Hello, Stan Lusby, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Polynesian navigation. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Peaceray (talk) 02:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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Portolan chart
Hi Stan,

I have reverted your recent editions to Portolan chart, which are based on non-main stream research and contain serious mistakes. Please check the article talk page. The same goes for Polynesian navigation, where the new material was inserted in a wrong place and is not properly documented. Please understand that this is not the appropriate place to discuss new theories and that Wikipedia articles should have a solid support on the main stream literature. Best regards, Alvesgaspar (talk) 10:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please don't be mad at me! No one was rude and being bold is the normal way in Wikipedia. Incidently portolan charts is one of my fields of research and what we know about pre-Mercator nautical charts has increased much in the last five years or so. I strongly recommend the book of Ramón Pujades, where he presents strong evidence that the portolan charts were developped a little later than 1200, most probably in Italy, not in Cartague, Rome or Alexandria. All those weird theories about the origins of nautical cartography, which were popular some time ago, have been abandoned by th specialits. Finally, please note that old charts were constructed using the information collected by pilots at sea, not by using what we call today terrestrial surveying techniques. That makes all the sense because they were supposed to be used in navigation. Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Dear Alvesgaspar,

Have you read the Hydrographic Society papers?

If not then put my work back in place until you have done so. By all means edit the placing, dot the "I"s and cross the "T"s. I am always grateful for such help but never touch the content without my approval again.

You do not understand how much work went into those coastline surveys. You are not a hydrographic surveyor. You do not understand the time consuming process of setting up survey control using non-instrumental methods. You have much to learn. I can respect your areas of expertise. Please respect mine and together we will move this subject forward.

I suggest you consider a new approach to your role as Gate Keeper. I am not your normal run of academic, sitting in a stuffy little closet. My office is the whole wide world. I have an innate sense of space. My intuitive side is strong and I regard the intellect as merely a means of communication between us as a species. When it comes to temporal matters ..............

"Time is God's will. Timing is Mankind's skill".

Please don't waste God's time any more. You can remain the Bold Gatekeeper of the Crumbling Realm and I will find other space to enjoy.

Kind Regards .............. Stan


 * As a matter of fact I am an hydrographic surveyor and a marine navigator. And I will go on editing the articles whose subject I know about exactly the same way as before. I suggest a little modesty and a lot of patience before you become acquainted with Wikipedia's ways. Ad hominem arguments are not welcome here. Please stick to the subject matter and don't try to guess what the other users know or do not know, or to classify their actions. I will repeat what I have already said: Wikipedia articles on Science and History are based on solid main stream sources and are not the place for original research or intelectual debate. Best wishes, Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)