User talk:Star Mississippi/Archive 16

Happy Holidays

 * Thank you and to you and yours as well.  Star   Mississippi  17:21, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!
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 * Thanks old friend. Happiest of holidays to you and yours. Star   Mississippi  02:45, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
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Thanks. I so appreciate all your help at SPI. Happy holidays to you and your loved ones. All the best for 2024. Star  Mississippi  19:51, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Holidays! New Years!

 * Thank you friend. So glad to have crossed paths with you earlier this year - or was it last? LOve our mutual interest in improving all things art, museums.
 * Are you going to see the exhibit that includes your picture? Looks like it's going to be a great one Star   Mississippi  18:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what exhibit you are referring to. (If it is confidential, email me the info.) Thankfully there are still mysteries in the world! Netherzone (talk) 00:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

 * Thank you friend. The same to you and your loved ones as well. Always great to work together. Star   Mississippi  16:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

CT55555
Hi Star, and happy new year. I just noticed that has not edited since September. I'm sorry to see that they are taking an extended leave, and hope they come back. Any idea why they may have left? I miss seeing them around! Netherzone (talk) 00:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oops, I missed this. They mentioned to me in one of our conversations that they were trying to find some balance, but I didn't realize they'd been gone this long. Hope they're well, wherever they are. Star   Mississippi  18:56, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Imran Noshad Khan
Hi there, hope you doing well. I wanted to ask you about the said draft article. I have further worked on it, updated the article and added more citations. I wanted you to have a look into it and give your opinion whether it's ready for mainspace or not. Thanks, Happy New Year! IBuNeriPK (talk) 18:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @IBuNeriPK! You're welcome to submit it to AfC where an editor will review it, but I do not think factors have changed enough to make him notable, even in light of his short term disappearance. He still does not seem to have attained biographic notability independent of events in which he's involved. Is that helpful? Star   Mississippi  18:54, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright I'll submit to AfC but about notability don't you think the criteria for English Wikipedia in South Asia is different from that in Anglosphere. There are actually the other articles from our region with even less biographic notability and citations in news sources from this one. IBuNeriPK (talk) 08:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of articles that need attention, unfortunately which is why we have WP:OSE.
 * Please do resubmit and maybe someone will look at it differently. There is English language sourcing so I don't think that's it, I just think he isn't quite notable as is defined here yet. Star   Mississippi  13:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Orkhan Mammadov
I am not sure I understand the deletion, or the delete arguments, you had citations in the article, a mix of, the addition of the previous AfD had Article 1, Article 2, Article 3, Article 4, Article 5, USAID Press Release, Article 6. Posted by ... So I was under the impression there should be more than enough for GNG. So is the AfD down to just a numbers voting game again? Because there certainly wasn't any in-depth discussion from one delete argument to me. So you'd have to forgive me, but I can't see how it deserves to be a SALT option. The guy is very wealthy and one of the top elites of the country, who contributes in somewhat political circles. I am against SALTing. Govvy (talk) 09:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You've been around here a very long time, even longer than I have. We both know that the guy is very wealthy and one of the top elites of the country, who contributes in somewhat political circles. and I've seen far worse off articles on American representation get kept for less. are not arguments that are going to hold up as a keep or convince someone to review their decision. Something he mentioned (that's literally it and the same here and here, a quote) aren't enough to pass notability and they're definitely not independent. Even ones like this which you didn't call a press release are exactly that. If you believe my close is wrong, I support a DRV, but the sourcing isn't there to support an article on Mammadov. The article has been deleted three times (Not counting G13) with no indication factors have changed is the reason I SALTed. Happy to discuss that, but this cycle of a new article without factors having changed isn't productive. Star   Mississippi  13:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Requesting the draft use of Cure Alzheimer's Fund article
Hello,

Happy New Year! I would like to request the use of the deleted article, Cure Alzheimer's Fund to use as a basis for a much improved version with more citations and notable content. Regretfully, we had not updated the page with this content as part of the deletion discussion. We have more than 1,000 research papers in reputable publications like Neuroscience, Alzheimer's and Dementia, Alzheimer's Research and Therapy, and Science Advances. Our organization has funded nearly $200 million in scientific research since our inception nearly 20 years ago. We fund basic proof of concept research, the kind of research that is the basis of all scientific discovery. Many of our researchers are able to take their ideas after our funding and submit for National Institute of Health (NIH) grants. For example, from 2018-2020 $47 million of our funded projects received $350m in follow on funding from the NIH.

We understand the value of a Wikipedia presence and would like the opportunity to add the necessary information and follow the Wikipedia guidelines.

I would be happy to discuss this topic and appreciate your reading and considering the request.

Have a great day! CureAlzUser (talk) 17:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @CureAlzUser. I think you have a misunderstanding of notability. As my colleague @331dot advised you, WP:CORP is not based on your funded projects, research, etc. It is based solely on what independent, reliable sources say about the organization and requires a depth beyond what they mention as your work. Charity Navigator, Guidestar, etc. are not independent nor are most of what was in the draft, which also appeared pasted from somewhere. I have re-reviewed the latest version that was deleted, and this isn't going to work as the basis of an article so I recommend you start fresh. It's very difficult to write neutrally about the organization, so I recommend you don't. However, if you decide this is a path you want to take: WP:42 and WP:YFA will be helpful. While it isn't required, I'd recommend that you change your username to better represent yourself as an individual. So Joe at CureAlz would work. More info here: Username_policy. Let me know if you need more information? Star   Mississippi  00:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Feather Linux (2nd nomination)
I understand that you have closed the above AfD as redirect, but as of the current moment, it has not been redirected. Was this intentional (which I can understand as the discussion kind of was closed in a stalemate)? -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 11:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Good morning @Champion. It was, because there were at least two potential targets and neither had consensus. Since consensus was clear that a redirect was the desired outcome, the decision on where didn't require a relist Let me know if that's helpful or you need more information? Star   Mississippi  14:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand. I am not sure where that should be discussed though, since there aren't many editors watching the page, it's unlikely that a discussion on the article's talk page will generate responses. Now that I think about it, it seems better to have relisted the AfD as it would more likely have attracted more editors to discuss a potential redirect target. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:52, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's going to help, but happy to relist if you don't think the TP solution will work. Doing so momentarily. Thanks for flagging! Star   Mississippi  23:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * and... then I forgot to ping. But all done I think! Star   Mississippi  23:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Idaho
Hey Star Mississippi. Apologies for not creating that Idaho season merger article in time. Do you think you could restore the 1903 season to draftspace to assist me in creating the merger? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Here you go: Draft:1903 Academy of Idaho Bantams football team @BeanieFan11
 * The AfC headers are automagic, obviously you don't need to go through it for the merger . Feel free to ping me on any of these. Star   Mississippi  03:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Journal of Commercial Biotechnology
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Journal of Commercial Biotechnology. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mach61 (talk) 03:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The reason I didn't consult with you before going to DRV is that I've yet to recall seeing an archived AfD close where the closing admin stated that they were convinced to modify their ruling after talk discussion. If you feel I have been insufficiently communative, I'm sorry, this is my first time. Cheers, Mach61 (talk) 03:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize, it's within your right to proceed without a discussion. I'm about to log off so I'll review the DRV and AfD in the morning. Star   Mississippi  03:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

ATDs
Thank you for normalizing mention of alternatives to deletion in your AfD closures. Jclemens (talk) 05:19, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You're welcome @Jclemens. I really do think they help the reader who goes to one page and finds what they're looking for, vs. incomplete information since the sub-topic/person might not have been suitably notable for a page. If you see one where I've missed an ATD, feel free to ping and I'll adjust. Have a great day. Star   Mississippi  14:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Raaka Chocolate (January 14)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Raaka Chocolate and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 01:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Providing history for redirect from AfD
Hello, first I want to say thank you for closing Articles for deletion/Abdulieh Janneh.

Per the decision, "While a redirect would be a viable ATD, there are several places where he's mentioned, there's no clear redirect target. If one is subsequently created, happy to provide the history thereunder." -- As the 1992 Olympics was Janneh's most notable competition, I have created a redirect from Abdulieh Janneh to The Gambia at the 1992 Summer Olympics. Can you please provide/merge the history of the original page and the corresponding talk page? It would be helpful because there was an unresolved discussion thread on the talk page that I think would be useful to remain on-wiki.

Thank you, --Habst (talk) 00:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You're most welcome @Habst. Always happy to do this pre or post close since it helps the reader. I've undeleted both and made the Talk page discussion visible. If you know a better solution for the Talk, feel free to implement it. Happy editing! Star   Mississippi  01:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 37.99.44.129 (talk) 07:55, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

An aside about Articles for deletion/Brenton L. Saunders
Thanks for the discussion at the current AfD. I didn't want to put this into the AfD and muddy the water for new participants, but that was simply a failure of an AfD. It was nominated by an editor who was active for a very short time and whose main business seems to have been nominating articles for deletion; | all but this one failed. This AfD should have failed as well. We had only one single reasoned !d vote, accompanied by two garbage !d votes, (one garbage !d vote by an editor who has been banned from AfD for their garbage !d votes, and one more by a sock.) Shame on me for not doing a better job defending the article, it should have been easy based on WP:BUSINESSPERSONOUTCOME. There were so many things going on, and this one seemed so obviously notable to me I let it slide, much to my regret. So anyway, I agree that it's not what has happened since the original AfD that makes the subject notable, the problem is that the original AfD got it wrong. It's one of my worst regrets in the history of my participation in the process. In any case, keep up the good work, I appreciate what you do at AfD, even though I rarely participate any more, I feel I have had a positive effect over the years. If you feel this would be more appropriately discussed in the deletion discussion, I have no objection to it being moved there. Thanks again! — Jacona (talk) 13:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your reaction, I also understand making the nomination - the creator of the current version of the page was problematic in many ways. Again, thanks!! — Jacona (talk) 14:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * LOL, jinx. Not sure why your second note didn't show while I was typing. Star   Mississippi  14:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Jacona. I was glad to see you pop up here and somewhere else recently because while we don't always agree on the outcomes, I feel like there's always good discussion.
 * I understand your concerns with the first AfD and agree with you, although I'd missed one was a sock. However, there's some absolute sock/UPE shenanigans going on with the recreation at Brent Saunders-not your redirect, that was of course fine- and I felt it needed more eyes. It got more eyes and I've withdrawn as absolutely wrong. If I'd been more awake when I nominated it, I might have skipped that. But thanks for and never hesitate to raise anything here. Star   Mississippi  14:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You're right - I wonder what the original article looked like, in terms of which editors created and edited it. This version really needs major work. I don't have time for it, though. Thanks for all you do! — Jacona (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Let's just say there was absolutely nothing salvageable or I'd draftify it for you. There was, either UPE/COI or Saunders himself based on info that would be impossible to externally source without a connection and a bunch of drive by edits. While the current one is problematic, those two editors at least understood the framework of drafting an article. Star   Mississippi  23:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit-conflict at the Attanthangal AfD
Hey, looks like you closed Articles for deletion/Attanthangal while I was trying to relist it. I'm of the opinion that pretty much all the keep !votes in that discussion are invalid, as they either make reference to sources not present anywhere in the discussion or article, or else incorrectly assert that WP:POPULATED has been met when the sourcing does not conform to that guideline. I'd recommend relisting it. signed,Rosguill talk 14:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I hate places almost as much as I hate sports articles. That shouldn't be a keep, but it probably will end up as one in the end.
 * There's enough primary sourcing that a redirect could be supported, but we really don't need to be an index of every place ever mentioned on a map somewhere, nor everyone who played anywhere. Thankfully the latter is changing slowly. IT would really help the reader to have one article with all the pieces vs. 17 stubs. My editor POV on that, obviously Star   Mississippi  15:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I unfortunately agree with Star here :( Sohom (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I unfortunately agree with Star here :( Sohom (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I have fixed the issues you told me
I added government sources clearly showing Caddebostan is a neighborhood and the population is sourced too????? Youprayteas (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You have not fixed the issues. Please read WP:GEOLAND to see what is required of populated places and WP:SIRS for help on sourcing. There is no reason it cannot remain a redirect until it's notable, which bike rides to haunted houses don't establish. Star   Mississippi  14:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There are over 1000 articles on villages with very low population, only one or two sources and they carry no significancy. The haunted house is explained in 3 of my sources, isn’t that enough??? The sources are in Turkish and I believe you don’t know Turkish but everything is mentioned in the references. Youprayteas (talk) 15:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:OSE is not helpful as it may be the case that those neighborhoods also need to be deleted.
 * It's possible another AfC reviewer will disagree with me and accept it which is why I allowed for re-submission. Turkish sources are valid if they meet reliable source standards. But neighborhoods can and often sould be covered within the main area of which they are a part. There is no need for an independent article to promote the haunted house.  Star   Mississippi  16:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not promoting the haunted house, it is just a landmark. Youprayteas (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Which doesn't convey notability to the neighborhood. This can be mentioned here
 * Why have you chosen not to edit there? Star   Mississippi  16:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I tried to add everything I can find related to Caddebostan. Having an article accepted is important so I added as much as I can in the hopes that you accept it and I’m suprised you rejected because you can just say its a stub article like thousands of other articles with no content at all Youprayteas (talk) 16:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't reject it. You're welcome to resubmit. As other editors have told you and I said above, those articles may have issues meaning they shouldn't exist. That doesn't mean we add more.
 * If that's everything you can find, it may be that the neighborhood is not notable. There is no issue with editing the existing article. Star   Mississippi  16:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand. I just want to say that I thought Wikipedia’s goal was to be inclusive as possible. For example, Caddebostan has an article in the Turkish Wiki and I’m just translating it to English. Ok sure, I shouldn’t compare articles but I don’t think villages with populations of 40 should exist but not a important neighborhood with over 20k population which is in the middle of Istanbul, one of the biggest cities of Europe and Asia. Youprayteas (talk) 17:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's also possible that Turkish Wikipedia's notability guidelines are different to the English language ones. As I said, you're welcome to re-submit it. I will not review it and it's possible other editors will believe it's notable. You've had the same feedback at the help desk, so it may be time to edit on a different topic if you want to create a page, or edit the mainspace article if you want to just add the well sourced information. Star   Mississippi  17:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * What is “the mainspace article”? Youprayteas (talk) 18:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Kadıköy or specifically Kadıköy about the haunted house or Coast.
 * This makes it easier for the reader to find the information they're looking for in one place. Star   Mississippi  18:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I’m not writing about the landmarks, I’m writing about the neighborhood though. Youprayteas (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * which can also be written about within the article (hence or). Please read WP:NOPAGE for a better understanding of why we don't need separate pages when the information can be covered somewhere existing. Most of. your sourcing seemed to be about the haunted house, which is why it seemed to be your goal. Star   Mississippi  18:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This is very incorrect. The travel blogs only mention the haunted house. There is only one reference specifically about the haunted house and it is about the house being sold. My goal was to add a page for a significant neighborhood. Youprayteas (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Let's move this discussion to the help desk where the issue with travel blogs has been answered at length as I saw that first Star   Mississippi  23:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Deleted articles being excluded from all articles
Just wanted to share with you how crazy this situation got. For all I know, ever since begining when we erased articles we would just remove the links so they dont stay redlinked, and that is it. Removing their mention altogether may leave to such missleading information that is beyond my comprension how others dont understand it. FkpCascais (talk) 18:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Let's please keep the discussion somewhere central, whether @Liz's talk or an appropriate noticeboard. I'm not saying you're correct or @Clarityfiend isn't (or vice versa), just that I don't think policy and practice are settled. Different folks feel different outcomes are desirable which makes it hard for an AfD closer to handle it the "right" way. Star   Mississippi  18:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Who said I advocated for excluding from all articles? Athos is a dab page and a name list, and neither make provision for including articleless wannabes. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm purely pointing out that each of you sees how to process link removal differently. I actually have no idea who is "right" or whether you both are. Star   Mississippi  02:44, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

2007 Swiss Invasion of Liechtenstein
Thank you for reviewing my 2007 Swiss Invasion of Liechtenstein. I will delete it from my sandbox page as it does not meat Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. Cheers! Seisachtheia (talk) 12:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Happy editing. Feel free to ping me if I can help with anything. It was a fascinating subject. Star   Mississippi  15:21, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Deletion bundle
I'm not sure if I did it wrong but I meant to bundle the article List of countries by electricity imports in the nomination Articles for deletion/List of countries by electricity exports. Wizmut (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Nothing wrong on your end, the script glitched. I've fixed it now, so thanks for flagging @Wizmut Star   Mississippi  03:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Serapis Bey
Hello, I have no opinion on the subject but can I ask why you closed this as "soft" delete when there was a Keep !vote? "a nomination has received few or no comments from any editor,  and  no one has opposed deletion" does not seem to be the case here. Best, - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  00:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to re-close it as a full delete if you'd prefer. When there's a rebutted/likely COI keep and minimal input I close as soft keep if someone really wants to work on it following refund to avoid the bureaucracy of DRV> Star   Mississippi  00:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, fair enough, if you think that saves time. I just thought you might have missed the keep !vote (!). Thanks for explaining. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  07:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Afd again
Hello, this Afd, I find, would  at least have deserved a Relist, don't you think? Allmusic and TrouserPress are reliable and those were reviews not just lists of artists.....Anyway, just letting you know I completely disagree with the outcome and even with the idea that there was any consensus at all, and that I'll redirect the page then. Best, - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  11:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Good morning. I noted a relist could be done, and you've done so. You're welcome to take it to DRV if you really think it was incorrect. However, you were the only editor supporting retention against three convincing and policy based arguments for deletion. WP:NOPAGE makes this and @DeputyBeagle's points (courtesy ping) since I'm citing them. The number of participants and discussion is sufficient input not to relist an already bogged down AfD process. Star   Mississippi  14:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello again and thank you for reply. "A relist", you mean a redirect, I suppose? (your 1st sentence). No, I won't take it to Deletion Review, but thanks, I have spent enough time improving the page modestly, at the Afd and then at the main article page. If you find convincing arguments based on a demonstrably false assertion that presented (even short) reviews in reliable sources are not significant coverage, well, let's agree to disagree and leave it at that, if that's OK with you too. Thank you again. Best, - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  17:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * LOL yes. I clearly had not had my coffee
 * That the reviews exist is established, that they were of sufficient depth was unfortunately not. It's all good. Down the road if you want me to restore the history under the redirect, I'm happy to. That way you have it if you find sufficient sourcing down the road to spin it out, you can more easily do so. Star   Mississippi  01:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Tool, script or bot for updating citation links?
Greetings Star! Hope all is going very well in your world! I'm wanting to update some of the articles I've created that have outdated links in the references. There seems to be a script, bot or tool that exists that can update the refs so that the original URL remains, and a new url is added that (I think) goes to either the Wayback Machine or to Internet Archive. Would you happen to know what that is? And if not, do you know of an editor I might ask who would be knowledgeable in this sort of thing? Or maybe the HelpDesk? All the best to you, Netherzone (talk) 15:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! Sorry for the delay, I was offline for a few hours. Hope you're having a great evening. Do you mean an edit like this? I see @Epicgenius make them on occasion on my watchlist so pinging them here. If this isn't the one you mean, I think odds are good they may know of similar tool as I think there's another, but I can't find an edit on my watchlist to reference it. Star   Mississippi  03:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. The tool I use is https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php. I don't know of any alternatives to this, though. Epicgenius (talk) 04:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you both very much for your help and the link to the tool, I appreciate it! Netherzone (talk) 04:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That is a very cool tool. I've never used a bot before, and this one seems really useful. I also noticed that you cannot preview changes before the bot runs on the page. I'll go slowly while learning. Are any special permissions required to use the bot? Netherzone (talk) 04:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Netherzone, I'm glad I could help. It is unfortunate that one cannot preview changes before saving. For the time being, if there is a reference that you do not want the bot to archive, you'd have to edit the page before running the tool; adding Template:Cbignore right at the end of that reference, like this, would cause the bot to skip that reference. I do not think any special permissions are required to use the bot, but you do have to log in first and allow the tool to make edits on your behalf. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, this is a great info, will save your notes re: editing the ref. Best regards, Netherzone (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Franco Lino
Hello,

I understand that there were previous instances where the ‘Franco Lino’ article was created before the player had made a professional appearance, thus being ineligible for an article, and so it has since been locked from being able to be created.

The player has now however made the required professional appearances, and his new article has been created unnecessarily including his middle name in the article title (Franco Osuru Lino), going against the naming convention of footballers.

As I believe you are the one who locked the original article, may I please request that the current article be moved to the more succinct naming title.

Thanks! Olyroo (talk) 11:27, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I weighed in at the AfD noting that if factors have changed, my protection can be overwritten. Star   Mississippi  17:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

You made an edit to Ibdaa Cultural Center when Electronic Intifada was still potentially an RS, now that it isn’t, do you still believe that notability is met?
Hey @Star Mississippi, I came across an old edit of yours here. Now that EI is depreciated, I’m not sure if the requirement for notability is still met. Could you weigh in on that? Alternatively, if you have other RS, that would also alleviate the issue.

Thank you :) FortunateSons (talk) 00:04, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! Aside from EI being deprecated, which I'd missed so thanks for flagging, I'm not sure it is actually notable to the level N:ORG requires. I don't read Arabic, but not having an article on the Arabic wikipedia isn't a good sign either. I don't have time to look for further sourcing right now, but would have no objection should you (or anyone else) choose to nominate it. Star   Mississippi  02:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you very much. I don’t speak Arabic either, so I probably will and can just retract it if someone finds a source. FortunateSons (talk) 11:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Did you mean to leave that undeleted
I noticed that you closed List of NASCAR drivers' AfD yet you failed to delete the article. Was that a mistake or intentional? NW1223&lt;Howl at me&bull;My hunts&gt; 01:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oh interesting. It's too large to be deleted. I know of @Xaosflux and @AmandaNP. Wonder if either would be willing to help, or I'll have to go through the Meta process. Happy for any tips. AfD referenced is Articles_for_deletion/List_of_NASCAR_drivers_(2nd_nomination)
 * Thanks for flagging @NightWolf1223 Star   Mississippi  02:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the temporary solution!  Star   Mississippi  02:48, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please list at meta:Steward requests/Miscellaneous - I generally avoid steward actions here since this is my homewiki. — xaosflux  Talk 05:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the tip on where. Will do! Star   Mississippi  15:02, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Resolved now, thanks and thanks again @NightWolf1223 for flagging  Star   Mississippi  17:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for List of current National Football League staffs
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of current National Football League staffs. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ==

BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting this started . Thought of one thing to add and have done so at the DRV so that it's all central. Star   Mississippi  01:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Jackson County Sheriff's Office (Oregon) AfD
Hello Star, can you undo/relist the AfD. The ATD redirect would not be an acceptable outcome per the RfD that brought the article to AfD (I was the RfD closer). If the article cannot be improved, merged or redirected to a different target, it would need to be deleted. I didn't really expect the close as redirect, or I would have made my comment at the AfD. Jay 💬 05:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Done! Sorry forgot to ping but assuming you're watching. FWIW, the merger, which was mentioned at the RfD, could have been done as part of the redirect since the history was maintained but I'll be more explicit in that in future closes. Based on a bunch of fire/police/EMS and schools which have virtually all landed as redirects, I don't see a way this ends up a delete, but we'll see where it lands. We desperately need more participation at xFD, but I don't think these are topics of interest, unfortunately. Star   Mississippi  13:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the relist. The RfD suggested improvement or merging after restore, but the article went straight to AfD probably indicating the nominator did not see scope for either. If in future closes, you indicate that the content COULD be merged-and-redirected, isn't this optional? Shouldn't the AfD closer do the merge, or does the closer leave it to any editor to do a possible merge? Jay  💬 15:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Any time. We're all human.
 * For the second part, I think community consensus is split as to whether it's our job as admin closer or not to enact the merge. We declare there to be consensus for the merge, but any editor can enact it. It's sometimes helpful for someone familiar with the subject to perform it because they may be better placed to organize the content, etc. That said, Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion is perpetually backlogged so if you or I don't do it as closer, odds are good it's a long time from happening. There are some closes - moreso where consensus is split between merge and redirect or merge and delete I'll close as redirect with a note that the history is there should consensus emerge for a merge because often times, it's not a priority or folks forget about it.  Star   Mississippi  01:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

2024


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Thank you for support and appreciation on my talk. As you know, I have a DYK on the Main page, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that lesson. I learn so much, as always @Gerda Arendt Star   Mississippi  14:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - that's a nice way to say it! - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * What a wonderful education you give us all, thank you! Safe travels Star   Mississippi  20:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

WP:REFUND
Could you please undel the original Bambino cat and put it at User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Bambino cat? It seems likely to me that there was some more salvageable material in there that can be merged to List of experimental cat breeds (where the very little material we have was moved to. It had originally been shoehorned into Munchkin cat as a subsection, but this was basically a WP:CFORK, since we're keeping the experimental crossbreeds info in the list article, not in articles on foundation-stock breeds (except as cross-references to the list article). If what's in the deleted version seems like utter trash, don't bother, but I'm hoping for some bits that can be extracted, even if it requires a little more sourcing work. The list entry at present is really skeletal.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @SMcCandlish!
 * I may be missing something entirely obvious in your request due to the late hour, in which case my apologies for asking you to clarify. As far as I can tell, there are no deleted revisions and you should be able to see the whole history pre AfD at this rev. There is information worth adding which was part of why I didn't delete it prior to the redirect. I'll be online about ten more minutes. If I've logged off and more is needed tonight, please consider this my blessing to ask any other admin to perform what's needed.  Star   Mississippi  03:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh! Duh! I must need coffee.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh I just did that in an AfD where there was no excuse other than new reading glasses/more coffee. It's contagious. Have a good evening. Star   Mississippi  03:59, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Mileo deletion
Hi Star Mississippi, hope your well, i could be missing something but i thought the consensus was to keep the page from deletion on the discussion page? There had been an incident on X (Twitter) since the artist started gaining more popularity online, where a few X accounts that took issue with the artist's song lyrics had made threats about deleting his wikipedia page due to personal dislike for the act, then a day later a deletion page was created. There isn't really much to disagree with in terms of him being a known act in Scandinavia, the issue was the sources on the page being outdated or not of use, but that just required updating. NorHux (talk) 14:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Good morning. The consensus was that sourcing wasn't sufficient. Being a known act isn't sufficient when independent, reliable sources don't appear to have covered Mileo's work. As you noted, just because some twitter accounts agitate against the article doesn't mean simply !voting keep will be sufficient to retain it. That said, I'm human. If you believe my close was incorrect please open a Deletion Review with my consent and blessing. Star   Mississippi  14:12, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Query
Hello, Star Mississippi,

I'm here because of a strange little glitch. When I see your signature or you listed in a page history, the link to your User talk page is a pink link, not a blue link. Typically pink links mean a page is part of some deletion processes so I come to your User talk page to see if it is mistakenly tagged but I don't see a problem. I also looked at your signature on this page and you don't have a link to your User talk page. So, I'm not sure what is up. See the Move log and search for your name to see what I mean. Of course, I use scripts that use colors to identify different statuses and you might not have them installed. But I thought I'd mention it in case there is something wrong.

I hope you have a pleasant weekend. Was expecting rain but it never arrived here. Liz Read! Talk! 03:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! I don't have those scripts and I admit I have no idea how to change the color but I will absolutely do so to avoid confusion. I changed from a long-standing sig when I became active again and found someone else's was too similar (to my eyes) and opted to change mine since it was my perception. Plus I love me some pink, but have no need to wreak havoc. I'll figure it out this evening. Thanks for flagging.
 * As for the link, I think it's only because we're on my Talk that it's not a link. When I go to User_talk:Liz for example, it's a link to my Talk. We had a weird "winter" weekend, but I'll take it. Ws so good to be outdoors. Glad you've avoided the rain unless you need it? Star   Mississippi  14:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Liz: Just for the record, the pink-colored link would be because the page was formerly in the Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion category, due to an attempt to wikilink to that category without using the colon trick. That was fixed here, so there shouldn't be any more issues. :) Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 20:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Writ Keeper for the explanation and fixing it. @Liz, let me know if you still need me to adjust. I am happy to. Star   Mississippi  01:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

User:SjamesR52/sandbox
Is this a G12 or RD1 action? The decline is RD1, but no range of edits were indicated. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! It's pulled from here and here. In my experience it's not enough for a G12 in draft space and someone will try to fix it. Without a clean version, I didn't find anyone to revert it to
 * Happy to make it a G11 if it helps you clean out the backlog? Let me know. Star   Mississippi  00:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would be helpful. Thanks! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't G11'ed, but changed the decline. If they return to editing and don't address it, I don't see it moving through AfC Star   Mississippi  01:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good enough. :) Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 01:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Any time, thanks for flagging Star   Mississippi  01:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Any time, thanks for flagging Star   Mississippi  01:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Jahanshah Javid
Dear Mississippi, I fail to see why this article was deleted. Several credible independent sources were offered that have made this person subject of their deep coverage. Drako (talk) 02:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The consensus in the discussion disagreed with you. If you believe I closed it in error, you're welcome to file a deletion reviews Star   Mississippi  02:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe my arguments were not refuted by anyone. The other user didn’t even address the several sources I cited and was just hellbent on one of them. Drako (talk) 02:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for opening the discussion.
 * I wanted to note that your signature appears out of compliance with Signatures as it makes folks think your username is Drako. Please consider adjusting it to reduce confusion. Star   Mississippi  02:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Jahanshah Javid
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jahanshah Javid. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Drako (talk) 02:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Regarding The Topic Avdhesh Kushwaha

 * Hi Star Mississippi,
 * Thank you reviewing content added and dropping suggestion,
 * I would humbly request to review below highly authenticated sources like OTT Platforms and TV Channels like Hungama TV, MX Player, ZeeTv, Airtel Stream etc. apart from IMBD and Social Media Profile. All this below mentioned reference I have added in the draft article as well.
 * Please review atleast once them.
 * 1. https://www.hungama.com/tv-show/swaanng/83556895/
 * 2. https://www.hungama.com/tv-show/swaanng/season-1/83556895/episode/out-of-focus/83556901/
 * 3. https://www.mxplayer.in/show/watch-the-red-land/season-1/the-land-mafia-online-874272126d86d1332471987807064bcd
 * 4. https://web.archive.org/web/20110613235729/http://www.zeetv.com/shows/bhagonwali-baante-apni-taqdeer/cast.html
 * 5.https://www.airtelxstream.in/tv-shows/swaanng/HUNGAMA_TVSHOW_83556895

TheRajeshJoshi(talk) 06:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Therajeshjoshi! Please add them and re-submit and an AFC reviewer will be along to assess the improvements. I personally don't believe they're sufficient, but that's why we have multiple reviewers. Have a great day Star   Mississippi  13:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Mail
Hello! Just a quick heads up that I sent you a brief email. Netherzone (talk) 23:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Baron (2nd nomination)
Happy with your closure, but did you notice the replies were from socks? Doug Weller talk 12:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Yep, the paperwork in my closing was in reference to Sockpuppet investigations/Emma knows it well. Or did you mean I should have gone back and struck? Happy to do so. I do it in active ones but not typically post close but can change that practice.
 * The main reason I didn't want to relist is SPI has been so understandably backlogged that I thought we'd acquire new friends before it was resolved and with the strong nom and input from Broc and Xxanthippe, it was one that didn't really even need a relist for consensus since the only arguments against was chatter among socks/meat that didn't really refute the no RS found. Star   Mississippi  13:24, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't relist either. But I think striking them makes the AfD more transparent. Up to you entirely of course. Doug Weller  talk 14:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I kept running into issues with the template there since there was so much discussion between the socks so I just amended my close. Will do so in the initial close going forward. Thanks for the suggestion. Star   Mississippi  15:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of help. And good work with the SPI. Some sockmasters don't give up. Doug Weller  talk 17:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez
I have eliminated all citations coming from FamilySearch as requested, I would like to resubmit for review my article. Thank you in advance for your consideration to this matter. Fjnovoa (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez
I have added this paragraph, so the subject can pass WP:NPOL

"Dr. Novoa Meléndez legacy belongs to a family that has earned local political notoriety in public service in El Salvador in the 19th and 20th centuries: his father Adolfo Novoa Méndez was Trustee of the City Counsil (Síndico in Spanish) of Sensuntepeque Municipality in 1880, his son Fidel Antonio Novoa Fuentes was a congressman in 1929, both his grandsons Fidel Antonio Novoa Arciniegas was the Mayor of San Salvador in 1964 and Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas was a Judge of the Supreme Court of Justice of El Salvador in 1989."

I have added secondary citation too.

Kindly, could you please reinstate my article. I have put long hours into my project. Fjnovoa (talk) 20:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I have responded on your talk page and have removed my rejection. I do think you need to leave these articles to someone unconnected as the tone remains inappropriate for an encyclopedic project, but will leave it for someone else's review. If this series of articles is ultimately accepted, you should use WP:Edit requests and not edit them directly.  Star   Mississippi  01:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Fidel Antonio Novoa Meléndez
Hello Star Mississippi,

On my article referenced above, I got rid of all the citations from FamilySearch. I have deleted paragraphs to make more summarized and shorter. I am using citation 1, 10 and 12 as secondary sources. Would you kindly review it and advise any changes for improvement and gaining approval?

Thank you in advance,

@Fjnovoa Fjnovoa (talk) 01:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! I think you've done well to improve the sourcing. If you click the blue resubmit button, a reviewer will be along to assess the changes. Let me know if can help in the mean time. Star   Mississippi  15:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Fidel Antonio Novoa Fuentes
Hello Star Mississippi, For the above referenced article I have added secondary sources, [8] which is another Wikipedia article. Your review, advise and corrections would be highly appreciated.

@Fjnovoa Fjnovoa (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Fjnovoa
 * Unfortunately other wikis and collaboratively edited projects are not viable sources as they're WP:UGC which is not reliable. However you're making good progress, so please keep at it and someone will review. Star   Mississippi  17:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have now updated citation secondary sources, [8] Fjnovoa (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Pppery, @Theroadislong: I'm not sure I'm following all the page moves. The author and I have been discussing the articles here as well as on their talk. Let me know if anything is needed? Star   Mississippi  23:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

My account has been blocked in the Spanish language.
Hellow StarMississippi,

I am seeking some advice and help please. The articles I have written and submitted for review and approval in English, I was simultaneously translating to Spanish and submitting them too. In the Spanish Wikipedia they were all deleted. As I have learned today, there was an old accusation regarding my user ID from 2013, which I will explain below, in the Spanish language Wikipedia. A comment has been written as if I was attempting to do something with nefarious intent, plagiarizing from another article in the web. But the main issue is that user Taichi has blocked my account, and user Ontzak goes and deletes my requests for review of my blocked account. The later will not give me an explanation why he/she is doing that, and I do not want this blocking to affect my articles nor my user ID in the English language Wikipedia.

Here is my explanation of the misunderstanding, which has been deleted with no explanation an my US ID has a flag that my account is "Special purpose account" (In spanish: Cuenta de propósito particular):

My account has been blocked
I started my articles on www.geocities.com and tried unsuccessfully to copy them to Wikipedia in Spanish back in 2013, since www.geocities.com was closed. I was accused of plagiarism, which makes no sense when I was the author of said proposed articles.

Recently, I restarted my new initiative of submitting my articles for approval. It is not correct that for 10 years I have tried to insert my ancestors. Duly, and in compliance with Wikipedia's policy, I have declared my conflict of interest on my user page. The fact that this contributor may be personally related to the topic or subject of an article does not prevent him from originally writing a neutral professional point of view on a political historical article on the topic or article. More importantly, the contributor, because he may be personally related, has provided a wealth of firsthand data, knows through oral tradition and provides supporting citations, is an authority on research and research for many years on the subject.

Therefore, it can be argued that it is a biographical article (not autobiographical, since the contributor does not contribute about himself), which has a political historical significance; or, on the other hand, a biography of historical political importance that turns out to be contributed by a personal and well-versed person. My articles have been reviewed by academic historians (third parties) who are not personally or professionally related to the contributor or to the topic or subject, analyzing the sources and citations. And in his opinion, although there may be a conflict of interest or a moral hazard, it is a neutral point of view, and duly disclosed on the contributor's user page, as is Wikipedia's policy.

Being blocked and derogatory information about me affects me a lot. My ancestors are remarkable people, and my initiative is only that the truth be published.

Explanatory note: www.geocities.com was part of www.yahoo.com at the beginning of the internet, and when the multinational AT&T bought www.yahoo.com; AT&T was not interested in the web hosting business, and let the website shut down and lose us customers or contributors. My articles existed in the space of www.geocities.com under the web hosting www.novoa.org. Now all my created pages are in the "dark web", and they have malware and viruses when you try to access them. If I wish to migrate my work to Wikipedia in Spanish, it is precisely to avoid losing my investigative work of more than 45 years Fjnovoa (talk) 22:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Your account is not blocked on English language Wikipedia, and I'm not sure what Star Mississippi could do about your block on Spanish language Wikipedia as he does not edit/is not an admin there. (Actually, Yahoo bought Geocities and ruined it for me.) &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words and response. Fjnovoa (talk) 01:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Deepfriedokra.
 * @Fjnovoa in addition to not being an admin there, my Spanish is unfortunately not up to par to make an inquiry on your behalf. If your old website was archived on the Internet Archive you may be able to prove that your content predates the versions and that the ownership of copyright is with you. We call that a Backwards copy but not sure what their policies are there. @Deepfriedokra do you know of any bilingual editors off hand regardless of whether they're admins there or here? I've worked with @Fjnovoa here on their suite of articles and while they had some issues getting up to speed with en wiki policies around sourcing, I absolutely believe them to be editing in good faith and would love to help. At worst case, Google translate and I can make a post on their Help Desk. Alternativelt, if you want to make a request here, I'm happy to link to it since I know you're a fluent Spanish speaker. PS: also former Geocities user. RIP them and Tripod Star   Mississippi  02:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Star Mississippi It is so delightful to hear from you, for you bring hope, mentoring and kindness.  It been scary and frustrating, at this point I was so concerned that my advances in the en wiki would be affected by their action.  There are still 3 of my articles in queue waiting to be reviewed and approved: Draft:Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas, Draft:Joaquín Arciniegas Tavera, and Draft:Constantino Fuentes Parra.
 * At this point, what is dead in geocities is water under the bridge. I have it all in my head and have made new articles different from those I had there, submitted in en wiki.
 * @Deepfriedokra Again, thanks to you too.  Wiki is better served having you two around.  If you guys ever need a native bilingual person, do not hesitate to call me.  Without prejudice of your beliefs, I pray blessings to you guys from above. Fjnovoa (talk) 05:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Very happy to help you at any time @Fjnovoa. Starting here can be a rough challenge, but you took editors' feedback on board, which is key to a successful editing career here. Blocks are project specific because policies are, and because there were no copyright concerns with your edits there is no risk of you being blocked here. Thanks for flagging your drafts. I'll go have a look to see if I can provide any feedback. Happy to do this at any time. Have a good evening. Star   Mississippi  00:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Joaquín Arciniegas Tavera
Hello @Star Mississippi Thank you for your comment.
 * Germán Arciniegas as an example/precedent - like the subject of this articles and above referenced, was approved as ambassador and writer.

I am basing on the Meridian-Webster definition #2: denotes the deputy appointed officer at an embassy.

I quote next from such reference
 * consul

noun con·​sul ˈkän(t)-səl Definition
 * 1a either of two annually elected chief magistrates of the Roman republic.
 * b one of three chief magistrates of the French republic from 1799 to 1804
 * 2 an official appointed by a government to reside in a foreign country to represent the commercial interests of citizens of the appointing country

Synonyms of consul
 * noun

Definition of consul
 * as in ambassador, diplomat, attaché, envoy


 * Additionally, the draft has been reviewed by Carlos Cañas Dinarte, who is an authority in El Salvador History, will comment his review and endorsement after has already reviewed the draft, this weekend.https://www.ecured.cu/Carlos_Ca%C3%B1as_Dinarte

Fjnovoa (talk) 03:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! What we've seen recently at WP:AFD is some ambassadors have been deleted because thar role isn't enough for preseumed notability, we need more. I don't want to accept your draft and have it immediately brought for deletion, but I'm not positive it wouldn't pass, so left that note for you and future reviewers. You've done excellent work to improve it and the others, so thank you. Star   Mississippi  14:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello @Star Mississippi
 * What about if I change the inforbox in html from "officeholder" template to "writer" template. That would no longer show the focus on the ambassadorship but concentrate on the subject as a writer and his contribution to fine arts with the 300 pieces gold collection now being exhibited at the Boston Fine arts museum.  Would that work?
 * And I have removed the sentence from "Achievements" as being a consul and kept it as an "Early life" fact, in the latter section. Fjnovoa (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I think he's much more likely to pass as an WP:NAUTHOR or maybe WP:NARTIST, to that end I'm pinging @Netherzone who edits in art areas and may be able to help if the sourcing is sufficient there. Thanks for all your help and work on these @Fjnovoa Star   Mississippi  16:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I saw this draft a couple days ago, and just had a quick look again. @Fjnovoa, He sounds like an interesting person, but I'm sorry to say that he does not meet WP:NARTIST criteria for inclusion. Seldom do art collectors qualify, and the current sourcing of his gold collection at the BFA is primary, which simply proves his gold collection exists but does not determine if it is a notable collection.
 * If there is independent secondary in-depth coverage in reliable sources about the collection, for example in art history books or academic journals, then perhaps the collection itself (rather than him) may be notable, but that's a stretch. If a wing of a museum is named after a person who once owned a collection, that is more standard. (For example the David Geffen Galleries at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art or the Griffin Wing at MoMA.)
 * If it turns out that the gold collection is notable, but he as an individual is not, there could still be a section on him in an article on the collection. Try doing a search on Google Books, and if you have access, on JSTOR. (If you don't have access to the latter, I do, but don't have the time at the moment to do that research.) Do keep in mind that there are many gold object collections around the world, so it's important to establish why this one in particular may be notable and not WP:MILL. You could also post a message to the talk page of WikiProject Arts as there are experienced editors there who may be able to help.
 * I'm less familiar with WP:NAUTHOR criteria, but will put the draft on my watchlist and if I have time in the next few days will do some research. If you can find independent reviews or journal articles that discuss his written works, please add them to the article, and when I review it will take these into account. Netherzone (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Fjnovoa (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Happy superbowl weekend @Netherzone and @Star Mississippi,
 * I now have added the following two paragraph to the article Draft: Joaquín Arciniegas Tavera, facts which was narrated to me by Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas when he was alive and through the oral tradition, for your consideration and with additional citations
 * After his death, the family inherited multiple documents and papyrus from the Simón Bolívar era that belonged to Arciniegas Tavera, that were later donated to the Colombian Institute and Library Gold Museum through Germán Arciniegas where there is a room or wing named after Don Joaquín Arciniegas in gratitude for such donation.
 * Additionally, the family donated to Museo Romántico that was founded by Doctor Eduardo Santos in the hacienda Yerbabuena of the Marroquíns; multiple miniature oil paintings authored by Jesús María Zamora, Ricardo Borrero Álvarez, Roberto Páramo, amongst others authors who's work was collected by Arciniegas Tavera.
 * Fjnovoa (talk) 20:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fjnovoa, This should probably get moved to the draft talk page so other editors and reviewers can see it. Has the oral history been published? If not, unfortunately it's "heresay" and would be considered original research WP:OR which is not reliable for an encyclopedia. If it has been published, it would be a primary source, which is ok to use for fact checking but does not contribute to the notability of the subject. Netherzone (talk) 21:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Help please, @Theroadislong is reversing any edits I make to the article, as I take both of you, @Netherzone and @Star Mississippi recommendations and guidance.
 * I have written to him/she directly and stated the following
 * I am still in the process of editing and providing further evidence and citations for the article, after reviews and observations from @Star Mississippi and @Netherzone. Kindly and respectfully, why are you erasing my edits, if the article is still in progress of editing? You are not providing me the opportunity to take care of the issues that have been found with the article that are preventing it from being reviewed and approved.
 * Please reinstate my edits which are mitigating with corrections and additional information per previous declines. Or are you just blocking any edits I make to not allow me to go forward with my further changes? Fjnovoa (talk) 22:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fjnovoa, the reviewer, @Theroadislong, is highly experienced and I'm certain they made the changes for a WP policy/guidelines reason, there is no reason to doubt their actions. This conversation needs to be moved to the draft talk page, and I am going to move it there in my next edit. Please respond there. Netherzone (talk) 23:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Joaquín Arciniegas Tavera
Hi @Star Mississippi Kindly, could you please remove the message/comment left for me in the maintenance section, that is in the article page, that reads "Unlike those who held political office, I'm not sure about Tavera's notability as ambassadors are not inherently notable. This one will be a challenge due to age of sourcing, but I'm not going to decline as I think it's borderline".

I believe that I have remediated this, by changing the inforbox in html from office holder to writer, and the office no longer reflects that the subject was a diplomat in the infobox. Moreover, the sentence that used to be in the Achievements sections stating the subject was a consul general has been moved to the Early Life section, with the intent that the focus is not an ambassador, but rather a historian and writer, as well as Pre-Columbian art collector, and a collector of manuscripts and renown paintings of Colombia.

Your consideration is much appreciated. Fjnovoa (talk) 15:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * We don't remove ANY comments until such time as the draft is accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 15:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Fjnovoa, I have twice asked you to use the article draft talk page which is located HERE: Draft talk:Joaquín Arciniegas Tavera. Please do so, as the discussion has been closed at this location, and it serves the community as a whole to keep commentary in one place. Please abide by the advise above and do not remove comments. Any maintenance tags should also be left in place until issues are resolve. Please kindly let the reviewers do their work, as they have a neutral POV WP:NPOV, and as a COI editor it seems that you may not. Please be patient and allow the draft to move naturally through the review process. Netherzone (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

My apologies
my apologies for that headache you had to deal with. Especially the baseless harassment allegations. I really did believe they were editing in good faith. Le sigh. Thanks again. Star  Mississippi  15:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries! Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course you were editing in good faith. You are appreciated! Netherzone (talk) 15:23, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem. Goes with the territory. &#45;- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Fidel Novoa Meléndez
I started spot-checking the content against what the sources actually say in this article Fidel Novoa Meléndez by FJN. I've removed some of the content that definitely was not backed up by some of the sources. A lot of the article seems to be word-of-mouth, family-based oral history, or other original research. Other parts check out, and while I'm not disputing his notability, I think this editor's creations that were deleted from es-wiki need to be checked against what the sources actually say (which are primarily in Spanish). Netherzone (talk) 17:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * This makes total sense. I know in the AfC acceptance there were some questions about ideal naming and disambiguation as well. Age of sourcing isn't helping either. I have a Times subscription but not newspapers.com even through TWL, apparently. Star   Mississippi  14:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I have both Newspapers.com and NewspaperARCHIVE.com thru TWL, so hit me up if you ever need me to look something up for you. The connections are a little unstable (sometimes they go offline), not sure if it's a server issue or WP is renegotiating their agreements with the companies. Thankfully a lot of the sources in FJN's articles are PDFs which I'm using for verification...it's time consuming because of the translations. My Spanish is rusty. (English, my first language ain't that great either, ha!) Netherzone (talk) 15:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Sig
Your signature and really don't seem to get on too well. No idea why. I tried troubleshooting for like 5mins and couldn't work it out - the only way I fixed it at Deletion review/Log/2024 February 17 was to close it myself and then copy-paste your sig in. More as an FYI as I don't know why it's happening! Daniel (talk) 22:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you @Daniel for both the fix and the heads up. Something definitely glitched with that close, I though't I'd fixed it after it inserted something I hadn't typed. But this is the second issue with my sig in about a week so I've stripped everything but the colors until I can figure out what's up with it. Star   Mississippi  22:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)