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causa sui (talk) 17:33, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

re:Deletion of User:H.Sadar Ali Akhter Ali
Hello Starfleet Academy. I replied at User_talk:Vejvančický. Happy editing :) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

AC Cobra
Are you serious? That's completely inappropriate. Supplying an engine is unequivocally not the same as being a manufacturer of a particular car. Look up AC Ace, or DeTomaso Mangusta, or Lotus Europa, or any other car that used an engine supplied by a third party. I trust you'll be responsible enough to change this back, rather than wasting any more of my time. --Jelliott4 (talk) 10:13, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I do apologize if I posted my previous message in the wrong place. But please read what I wrote, rather than writing it off as a "non-constructive attack," and think about this: Ford engines were used in the AC Ace (later ones), De Tomaso Mangusta, and Lotus Europa (later ones), and none of those Wikipedia articles cite Ford as a manufacturer of the car. Did you look up any of those examples the first time I mentioned them? (That wasn't a "non-constructive attack," that was me providing examples illustrating why what you're doing is completely inappropriate and inconsistent with analogous articles on Wikipedia.) If you need more examples, see DeLorean DMC-12, De Tomaso Pantera, Iso Grifo, Jensen-Healey, Panoz Esperante, or Sunbeam Tiger; the manufacturers of all of those cars bought engines from someone else, just like AC bought engines from Ford and Bristol, but none of those Wikipedia articles list more than one company as the manufacturer of the car. You should also be aware that this isn't just a Wikipedia convention you're violating; it's been the standard in the automotive industry and among automotive journalists and historians ever since the automobile was invented. Making the engine used in a particular car doesn't make a you a manufacturer of the car. Even racing cars that are colloquially referred to with the name of the engine supplier (e.g. Tyrrell-Ford, Williams-Renault) do not have the engine supplier listed as a constructor of the car in their Wikipedia entries (see Tyrrell 003). What else can I possibly say to explain the inconsistency you've introduced into the AC Cobra article? Jelliott4 (talk) 18:57, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

351 M-code
The Ford 335 engine segment lists the 351 M-code and 351 CJ, where it says that the 351 CJ was introduced in May 1971. The 351 CJ replaced the 351 M-code because the 351 M-code was a high compression engine at ~11:1, while the 351 CJ was a low compression engine. In other words, Ford Motors were changing their engine to comply with the need to run on regular gas. As a result, the 351 M-code was discontinued and the 351 CJ was introduced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.175.6.119 (talk) 17:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)