User talk:Starlettandbigjohn

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (March 12)
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Eagleash (talk) 07:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

 Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

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We have not done anything to be blocked. Starlettandbigjohn (talk) 20:19, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I apologize for the use of the word “we”. I am the only one who has access to the account. When I said we, I meant the Starlett and Big John Fan Club. I would like to create a page about the Bluegrass duo Starlett and Big John strictly for informational purposes. They have made a mark on bluegrass, and record under a major label, Rebel Records. I would like to create a page for other fans who would like to know more about Starlett and Big John and their musical careers. As for the name of the duet, Starlett and Big John are their biological names. I understand how in this world those names may be construed as something inappropriate, but I assure, there is nothing inappropriate about Starlett and Big John. Starlettandbigjohn (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Your account name must represent you, the person sitting at the keyboard. This account is meant for your exclusive use only, and the name must reflect that. It cannot represent the subject you're writing about, it cannot represent your fan club - it must represent you as a single individual. Account names that represent or imply representation of an organization or group of people are forbidden outright. You will have to choose a new name of an individual nature.


 * Please also be aware that Wikipedia only includes topics that meet its notability criteria (in the specific case of musicians, the notability criteria for musicians). Significant coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources is a prerequisite for inclusion on Wikipedia. You will need to cite these sources as evidence to prove that these musicians merit inclusion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 01:20, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * So what I’m understanding is Starlett or Big John need to create a Wikipedia page, with citations from their accomplishments? I don’t understand how I can find Wikipedia pages about people that have died. Obviously they didn’t create the pages themselves, so how are they created by someone who is not them? Who creates those pages? Also, other Bluegrass groups and duet artist have Wikipedia pages, so what are they doing differently? Starlettandbigjohn (talk) 01:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

No, an artist writing about themselves is a conflict of interest. Wikipedia articles are written independently of their subjects, and consist of paraphrased summaries of previously published material from reliable and independent sources. If this music duet is notable enough for inclusion, as evidenced by significant coverage in reliable sources, then an article about them should be written by someone who has no personal or profession connection to them. Fans are not disqualified as authors, but they should take care to write from the required neutral point of view.

Deceased artists that have articles on Wikipedia were obviously notable for their achievements. Others who took an interest wrote the articles and cited them to the required reliable sources to verify the information.

The presence of other, similar articles to the one you want to create doesn't guarantee acceptance of yours. The ones you are looking at may be equally unacceptable, and risk deletion. With over 6.5 million articles and an entirely volunteer-based editing community, some poor quality articles will slip past. What other articles about bluegrass artists are you looking at as examples?

Finally - again - your account name is not acceptable. It cannot be the same as a music group (or a company, or an organization). It would be the exact same situation if you made an account named "The Beatles", "Microsoft" or "Sierra Club". --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)