User talk:Starsforminerva

December 2011
Hello and welcome! It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed content without explaining why. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing, and, if you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you! Jim1138 (talk) 04:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Kai Lu


Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Kai Lu. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Kai Lu (author). Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Kai Lu (author) - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. CharlieDelta (talk) 08:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Kai Lu (author). Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. NtheP (talk) 20:29, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Peridon (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Article deletion and notability
Hello If you're new to Wikipedia, I suggest that you briefly take a look at WP:NOTABLE and WP:SOURCE--they are pretty fundamental pages that explain how an article gets made on Wikipedia. In sum, the topic has to be notable and notability is established with credible, verifiable, third-party sources. If this is confusing, please let me know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Clarification on Kai Lu
Hi! I just wanted to help you out a little when it comes to reliable sources. A reliable source would be considered to be a secondary source that was not put out by Kai Lu, any of her representatives, or anyone who has a vested interest in seeing her succeed. For example, if Kai Lu's agent put out a press release it would not be considered a reliable source to prove notability. Another good example would be if a friend or family member put out something about her. (Although if a friend or family member was a writer for the New York Post and did an article about her, that would probably be one of the rare occasions where it'd be considered reliable.) Also be aware that articles, books, or journals that only briefly mention or quote her are really only considered to be trivial sources and don't generally show notability. You can add some of these but they don't show notability in and of themselves regardless of quantity. (I've tried doing that before and got informed of this, so I found that out the hard way.) Notices of lectures, book signings, or other public appearances are not considered to be reliable sources. Professional listings where she's listed as an author (such as on the publisher website) aren't considered to be reliable sources either. If all of this isn't frustrating enough, you've also got to show that the sources are considered notable. For example, if I were to write a blog about Kai Lu, my blog wouldn't count. (Blogs aren't considered a reliable source unless they're by someone extremely notable, such as Stephen Fry or an editor for a major paper.) This means that the blog review that you have posted on the page cannot be used.

It's a pretty strict criteria, to be honest. I know this has got to be overwhelming and frustrating for you, but I just wanted to clarify the "reliable sources" thing that others might have been talking about. I've suggested on the AfD page that you should be allowed to userfy the article on one of your user pages (WP:USERFY), which means that you'd get to have a copy of the article available for you to edit on your user page rather than just have all of the information outright deleted. This way you could continue to work on it and polish the article up until it meets WP:AUTHOR. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 07:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79