User talk:Stateofart

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Hutatma Chowk Image Copyright
please do not add the Hutatma chowk picture to mumbai. it is copyrighted. thanks Nikkul 18:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no proof provided that this image is allowed onto Wikipedia. Without proof, we can not use this image. Also, the image has nothing to do with the text. Unlike your image, the VT image is under the creative commons license as shown on the flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/humayunnapeerzaada/381909286/in/set-72157594578374132/ Nikkul 15:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed that you said on Nikkul's talkpage that you had got permission from the author to use this Hutatma chown image on wikipedia. Can you please add the relevant evidence of the permission on the image page, else it is likely to be deleted from all pages on wikipedia soon. Abecedare 20:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting the new image. If you could find a better image, that would be great. Still, im not going to delete this one, dont worry. Nikkul 20:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Your request for the Maharashtra map
I have noted your request for the MH state map. Although i wish to release maps of all states, due to my limited time i have only done the smaller states till now. States such as MH, UP, MP requires considerable time due to the large no of districts and extensive road/rail network. I shall however make MH as the next release as and when i get the time. Thanks for your patience --Plane Mad 15:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Mumbai Image
Since Flora Fountain was renamed Hutatma Chowk, directly because of the Samukyta Movement, I think its very appropriate. Also, the picture is of better visual quality and the memorial is shown. I have changed the text a little. Nikkul 13:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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Sawai Gandharwa
Sir, could you please explain why you have been reverting the lead transileration of this article.?thanks.Dineshkannambadi 13:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your quick reply. I think having a Kannada and Marathi transileration for Sawai Gandharwa is fine. However, Panditji being popular in Maharashtra is not a reason for Marathi translieration in that page. Similarly, as an example, Sachin Tendulkar is popular in Karnataka too which does not mean a Kannada transileration for his page should be allowed. I hope you understand this. Please maintain both Kannada and Marathi for Sawaiji only.Dineshkannambadi 13:37, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Sir, You have not understood the meaning of the lead transileration. If Panditji has made significant contribution to Marathi music, please provide that statement in the body of the page and provide a citation for it. Also do you have cited proof (from an article, newspapaer etc) that Sawaiji is a Marathi speaker?Dineshkannambadi 14:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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3RR
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Hello
I am opposed to the image of the Memorial because it meant more to the state of Maharashtra than it did to Mumbai. The movement took place because of the state. And the state was formed because of the movement. Mumbai was not involved in this at all except for the fact that the protesters happened to be in mumbai.

The population boom & construction boom image on the other hand shows how the city's demographics and its structure has changed since the 1970's and how this has made it the 5th most populous city in the world. My image is directly related to Mumbai while the Memorial image is indirectly related to the city. I think the hutatma chowk image would go better on the maharashtra page. cheers. Nikkul 20:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Lokmat
Because it didn't had references to third party sources. Now that it does, there is no need for the tag. -- Iván Sánchez (talk)  10:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * And, by the way: The webpage of the lokmat newspaper is not a valid soource of information about lokmat. As strange as it may appear, this policy saves wikipedia from biased information and unverifiable claims. Please do read WP:SPS. Regards, -- Iván Sánchez (talk)  10:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


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My bad
Sorry about not checking my sources. I did not see the reference. Since marine drive is what everyone knows it by, i think we should keep just that name. I hope you like my edits (the photos). Sorry bout the mistake. Nikkul 12:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit
I definetly disagree. The country is more important than the state. Most of the readers who come here dont know what maharashtra is, but they do know what india is. We can reword the intro, but i think that the first sentence should say something about its importance to the country since we need to establish the fact that the city is in India. Nikkul 12:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Geo
Trust me, the whole world does not know mumbai is in india...maybe 1 percent of the population knows that theres a city in this world called mumbai... a lot of people dont even know where india is, let alone mumbai. And if im the average reader, i would like to know which country the city is in before which state it is in. Living in the US, i can tell u that a lot of people dont know much about india. Nikkul 13:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I was in India in August, which is when i took the pic. I still think that having the two sentences will make everything much more clearer. It is sad to say, but many people around the world would not know where india is on the map. That's why it is more important to point out that mumbai is in india. Furthermore, they would def. not know which country mumbai is in. Still, it is better to state the country and then the state. Nikkul 13:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thats exactly what im saying!...if someone doesnt know where india is, they def. wont know where mumbai is which is why we have to explain that mumbai is in india first. Anyway. i think the way that the other guy has it is good. (mumbai is the most populous city in india and the capital of maharashtra.) Nikkul 20:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sawai Gandharva
Sir, you had claimed that this singers name " Rambhau Kundgolkar" is a Marathi name. I have provided a very reliable website reference that his real name is "Kundgol Ramarao" which is no more Marathi then Kannada or Telugu. There are Rao's in all three states. Unless you can provid clear and present evidence that Sawai Gandharva is a Marathi speaker by descent, please dont add a Marathi transliteration. I have corrected the article information. After going thru many web sites, the impression I get is that because of his popularity in Maharashtra, people there may have given him a Marathi like name, just like many people in South India think Lata Mangeshkar is a Hindi speaker just because she is famous for singing Hindi songs. Not many people know she is a Marathi by descent. However I would be really pleased if you take the trouble to find real information that Sawai's language is indeed Marathi instead of just reverting all the time. The fun in Wikipedia is about finding information. I wish you all the best.Dineshkannambadi 03:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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Template:Maharashtra
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Sir, please see some weird message pasted by someone in my talk page. Kerala govt logo is used in wikipedia but someone's objecting abt Maharashtra govt logos. What to do?? (Stateofart 09:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)) the previous message was copied here from my talk page, to keep the converstaio at one place. Abecedare 14:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Stateofart, According to wikipedia policy on Non-free content criteria, images that are not free (i.e. not in public domain), cannot be used outside the mainspace (see point 9). So I'm afraid that Image:Maharashtraseal.png will have to be removed from, unless you can establish that legally the seal is in the public domain (which I doubt is true, but I haven't looked into Indian copyright law). Of course, this does not prevent fair use of the seal in articles such as Maharashtra.
 * If, as you say, Kerala seal is being used outseide the mainspace - such usage needs to be corrected too. I recommend that you post a question on WT:INB asking about the copyright status of state logos in India, but do not edit war over this. Cheers. Abecedare 13:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think there may be a technical solution to this n on-free-content problem. Perhaps we can add a "Logo" parameter to the template, and if the parameter is set to "yes" on the article page where the template is transcluded, the logo can be displayed. Can you look into how this can be implemented ? Perhaps it may be worth contacting User:Ganeshk who is our resident template expert. Cheers. Abecedare 14:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I have responded here. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 22:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, if u could give me a link, i could try to understand....lemme know. Nikkul 23:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:State logos in Templates
The logo does show on the Maharashtra article when you click the Show link at the bottom. The template does not need to show it too. The reader is going to see the Maharashtra article only.

The copyright policy at is not clear. I checked with copyright gurus here. I was told it was not free-use. The part where it says, "This is subject to the material being reproduced accurately and not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context." puts restrictions on reproduction. So, the logo is fair-use, and a fair-use rationale needs to be added for each article that uses that image.

Hope that explains. Let me know if you have questions. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 06:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Mumbai name
Please stop editing the name of Mumbai in the infobox. The primary name should be in English as this is the English wikipedia. Indic scripts still render poorly in several browsers, and we are hesistant to use it directly in maps. Thanks! =Nichalp  «Talk»=  11:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. The name in any Indic script breaks in several browsers. I have made the necessary corrections to those other cities. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  11:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

mh state map
Hi Stateofart. My aim is to make maps for each and every state, but unfortunately am finding it difficult to get time for the map work thanks to my engg course. Once i resume making maps, i shall give priority to maharashtra :) --Plane Mad 19:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Blocked
24 hours for a violation of the 3RR. When you return, please use article talk pages to discuss contentious content rather than disrupting the project. Spartaz Humbug! 13:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

3RR
With respect to your edits on Muhammad Ali Jinnah, please be mindful of WP:3RR. Always better to discuss changes on the talk page and come to an agreement with others, especially on a wiki. Else the changes will hardly be longlasting. Too many editors moving around here — Lost (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically the limit to 3RR is 3 reverts within 24 hours but personally I apply 1RR. If you get reverted after one time, talk it out with other editors. Its a good practice. — Lost (talk) 16:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Mumbai name
Please stop adding the name of the city in Devanagiri to the Mumbai article infobox native name parameter. Discuss it first rather than making unilateral changes. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  14:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The point is not if it renders or not. The point is to maintain consistency across all cities with appropriate consensus. This is the English wikipedia, and the text is normally meant to be in the body. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "The template box is purposely designed the way which keeps native script and its english transliteration on map. More important is the accuracy and correctness of information rather than consensus. Unarguably native name and other name has been alloted the places in box and we should maintain that. We cant interchange them for the sake of convenience. Even if this is english wikipedia the importance of native names have been kept intact and in Mumbai's case there's no such problem as native name equals English name."
 * The template box is purposely designed the way'' – No, it was not designed that way. The word native name was picked up from the country template
 * accuracy and correctness of information rather than consensus – You're mistaken. The term "Mumbai" is pretty much accurate in English. We cannot compromise on accuracy, but there is nothing incorrect in having Mumbai in English in the infobox. Consensus is official policy on Wikipedia. Please see Consensus.

=Nichalp  «Talk»=  15:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

One of the reasons why we keep the native name off the template is because in a lot of regions there are more than one native name. Mumbai may only have one state language, but other states have more than one. UP for example. Delhi for example is Hindi, Punjabi and Urdu. We can't list all three languages, it would be messy, and lead to edit wats. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  15:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Unblock
Then what should i do? i want to add more information? please unblock me. all the charged on me are wrong. (Stateofart 09:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC))

From Manishearth
I added to Marathi phonology. About having 3 consonants per row, the alphabet is organized into 5 consonants for the first few rows, by similar sound and usage of tounge. Manishearth 14:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, I tought you would like to join WikiProject India Manishearth 13:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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