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I noticed you undid my edits on nu metal. I wanna explain some things to you:

I fixed the critics claiming Nu metal popularity declining thing. Only one of those sources actually spoke of Nu metal losing popularity. The rap rock source didn't speak of it at all. The Mainstream popularity section shouldn't be divided into 2 sections of the same name. That was made by an IP users. If they have the same name and are next to each other then they should be merged with each other. Nu metal was popular in both the late 90s and early 2000s and it should be put into one section instead of dividing in half. The part about Nu metal bands releasing albums in 1997 and Ozzfest happened before Nu metal became really mainstream. So I put it on the early development section because it doesn't go on the mainstream popularity section. 1997 wasn't where Nu metal broke in the mainstream, so it shouldn't be on the mainstream popularity section. I'll try maybe changing the name of the early development section and giving it a better name. The 2010s section had too many files and one file is enough. 3 files took up a lot of room. Also, list of nu metal bands should be on the "other topics" thing as it has something to do with Nu metal and shows examples of Nu metal bands and bands described as Nu metal. Also, those sources for Ice Cube playing Nu metal did not refer to any of the rapper's work as Nu metal. One did refer to his 1998 album as rap metal but remember rap metal isn't the exact same thing as Nu metal, it is just similar to Nu metal. The thing about Soulfly wasn't sourced and the thing about Deftones moving away from Nu metal wasn't sourced either. I'll try sourcing these things soon. For now, don't do anything to the Nu metal page. Statik N (talk) 01:24, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank You. There are a few things that aren't right. Either women, young women, or both, females is not right. A list is not a topic. Also under Characteristics, adding a sub-section of "Nu metal fashion" and putting relevant material from characteristics in the new sub-section of "Nu Metal fashion", "Fashions", Fashion" or something better if there is an idea. Those are a few things that will help. The sub-section doesn't have to happen but may be a few leagues more, Professional as far as an Article is concerned.

Also this "Trevor Baker of The Guardian wrote "Bands such as Linkin Park, Korn and even the much reviled Limp Bizkit also, incidentally, did far more to break down the artificial barriers between "urban music" and rock than any of their more critically acceptable counterparts. Their concerts also drew huge numbers of women, which is much more than you could say for any old-metal band."[33]" needs to be in the "2010s and slight comeback" minus the year and calling it "Revival", "Rebirth", "Continued Evolution" or something better if someone thinks of it such as "2010s-Continued Evolution" or titled in some other way.
 * ....or....., in the Decline in popularity (mid–late 2000s), section like after "Mudvayne's 2005 album Lost and Found showed a change in the band's musical style.[120]" "In contrast, to the general decline "Trevor Baker of The Guardian wrote "Bands such as Linkin Park, Korn and even the much reviled Limp Bizkit also, incidentally, did far more to break down the artificial barriers between "urban music" and rock than any of their more critically acceptable counterparts. Their concerts also drew huge numbers of women, which is much more than you could say for any old-metal band."[33]". That section would fair better titled "2000's (Decline and Growth)", or perhaps "2000's (The Decline and Evolve)" those are some ideas.That can help.CombatMarshmallow (talk) 02:22, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


 * That is what I came up with. CombatMarshmallow (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Nu metal
You must really like nu metal, eh? Good. Someone else besides me likes it. Guess I won't be alone forever. Now to the point. You are going to include somewhere something about Mudvayne's L.D. 50, right? I saw the edit in which you removed it, but that album was a nu metal classic.

Any chance you'll nominate the article for Peer Review or GA soon to improve its status? Your work on the page is extremely extensive....  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 00:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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I have submitted a request for copy editing for nu metal. I would predict it be done in the first week of December at latest, but hey, sometimes they run long. This should help a lot, and if you put up a Peer review for it and get feedback, I'd say it'd be ready for nomination in December. Did you get my message before? I kinda wondered if you ever saw it.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 21:25, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

RE: Nu metal request
So you know, I like to respond typically on my own talk page when spoken to, but I'll do it your way if you like, I'm open to that, just prefer the other way by default. Now to the point.
 * You absolutely can edit the article while it's on request, but keep an eye out for spurious additions or things that would detract from the article's quality while it's awaiting improvement.
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I hope these helped. I've never had a GA passed before, only sent one article to WP:GOCE (incidentally, it was the Deftones), and my first PR still hasn't had any responses and it's been 3 weeks :/ But I've read through several of their archives and have a general understanding of what they want. I was just fooled by an illusion of what looked like a prepared article. (I would've known better than to nominate it if I'd sent it to PR.)  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 21:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, by the way, the link I gave you initially didn't work, click this to see the request I filed.

Korn's untitled studio album genre edits
That page was on my watchlist. It was originally nu metal (with two sources), and some idiot changed it to industrial metal. I've challenged and removed that tag, and previously have done the same the others you added. I have reverted your edits for the moment, but do you have sources for these? If so, I'd be happy to have them.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 00:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Nu metal article and Adema
You know, "Giving In" should be included somewhere before that compilation came out. It was from '01, and the album that it appeared on at least went Gold, so that's something. Mention their album somewhere is all I'm saying. Maybe their second single "The Way You Like It" would be a good idea to talk about as well.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 15:47, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Nu metal article song samples
A user in the Peer Review is complaining that the sample for "Nookie" is too good of sound quality to be included in a Wikipedia article. The reason that is is because copyrighted material should be used carefully; we don't want to have as good of a recording as was produced in the studio, that'd be stealing. He recommends around 60 kbps, and I notice that the "Headup" sample is also significantly higher than that. I think the Korn sample would work, though, because it's only 64. I think we should remove these, as we should be careful with what we add there. Do we have any of the old files still? I remember Slipknot's "(sic)" and Deftones "Engine No. 9" there before; why change them?  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 15:45, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Sound samples idea
Do you have a copy of Slipknot's self-titled album? If so, could you please upload "Surfacing" as one of the replacement samples? I have a great idea for how we can use that suggested source as a caption for it. I'm thinking I'd replace Deftones' "Headup" for the new sample.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 03:33, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey there. If we're going to get the article passed, we'll need "Headup" and "Nookie" re-uploaded at lower quality; you do have the ability to do that, right? Just a friendly reminder.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 23:25, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll reupload them.
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Do you own most or all of the books cited in nu metal? If so, I'd like to ask a favor; if not, nevermind. FYI, that favor would be separating the refs at the ends of sentences. This isn't always a problem, but putting all references for a given sentence at the end of it makes the last one stand out as heavily disputable, and makes it harder to source-check the others. For example, the current revision in the first two paragraphs of prose show five to seven refs at the end of a sentence to cite what could be various things:

Nu metal is also known as nü-metal and aggro-metal. Considered a form of alternative metal, nu metal merges elements of heavy metal with elements of other music genres such as grunge, hip hop, funk and alternative rock.

Nu metal bands have been influenced by and have used elements of a variety of musical genres, including electronic music, funk, grunge, gothic rock, hardcore punk, death metal, hip hop, punk rock, dance music, new wave music, industrial metal, jazz, post-punk, symphonic rock and synthpop. Nu metal bands also are influenced by and use elements of genres of heavy metal music such as death metal, rap metal, groove metal, funk metal, alternative metal and thrash metal. Some nu metal bands such as Static-X and Dope made nu metal music with elements of industrial metal.

Could you help out with this so that it looks more like the fashion section? I would, but I don't have some of the books to check what they refer to.  danny music editor  ~talk to me!~ 15:39, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Rapcore
Hello. See. Article was created on 10 May 2001‎, 150 of users edit it and you deleted the whole article with sources based on your opinion? Where is discuss and consensus for remove article of rapcore? To remove these articles must to be discuss and consensus. Please link to this. Subtropical -man  talk   (en-2)   16:01, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Grunge articles
You seem to be going on various grunge articles and adding/removing genres that were previously cited there (IE taking "alternative metal" off STP's debut album) without consulting anyone else on this, some of these edits may go against popular opinion (most reliable sources consider "Even Flow" a grunge song, while you have removed this from the article) ConCass (talk) 22:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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Bush are Post-grunge too?
I seen that you always try to remove the post-grunge label out of Bush's songs and albums and pretending that Bush aren't Post-grunge, Bush was probably one of the first successful post-grunge acts, they had a grunge sound, yes they did but their sound was easily radio-friendlier than those of Nirvana's and Pearl Jam's. Grunge was also a place, to be Grunge, a band needs to come from Seattle, I was watching the Grunge hype 1996, it didn't included Bush at all, why? Well Bush were not from Seattle and Bush were imitating the grunge bands and signing to major record label with their first album, they also came a little after the grunge explosion of the early 90s. Also, by the way, if a Bush song came from 1999-2001, it's definitely not grunge anymore, it's just Post-grunge, look at Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam are more grunge than Bush but their songs from the late 90s-early 2000s, just says alternative rock, you are telling me that Bush was the only grunge band left from 1999-2001, they were more post-grunge, Post-grunge bands imitate the old grunge bands and Bush was one of the first bands that actually did that. Also, thanks for editing the post-grunge article, I hate it how it looked boring and dull and now you added some good things on there, however, I wouldn't add the Yourself Or Someone Like You album during the early-mid 90s because the album got it's strongest success during the late 90s from 1997-1999, overall thanks for that but Bush belong more to the Post-grunge movement, grunge was a place and a specific time, Bush wasn't included on those times, they are Grunge but at the same time, they are Post-grunge and let the role for Post-grunge to experience stronger success throughout the future and years.( Mikeis1996 (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2016 (UTC) )

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Some help with liners
Hey bud. Being the nu metal fan you are, I was wondering if you had a copy of L.D. 50. The personnel section in this article looks suspiciously short and I'd like to fix that. I'll bring it back to GA one of these days, jeez, the whole circumstance behind its listing AND delisting was a mess.  danny music editor  Speak up! 19:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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Results May Vary
You have a very overfilled critical reception. The limit for reviews in the box is 10. You have like 16. Since you're the main contributor, I wanted to talk to you about it before I go around changing everything. Which ones should be removed, and which ones are more important to the understanding of its reception? Which sources carry less weight in reliability? Those are some things to think about. I'd prefer if you responded here, by the way, I will notice.  danny music editor  Speak up! 23:00, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * We should remove Hour Community, Dotmusic, Chicago Tribune and Reading Eagle. Let's mention their ratings and reviews through only words. I think it's a good idea to mention quotes from these reviews. We should mention quotes and ratings. Statik N (talk) 02:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Stop reverting and discuss on talk page
I've started a discussion on the nu metal talk page. I've provided many sources that back my stance. Another editor agreed with me. You have not commented despite having 3 days to do so, and have instead just gone and reverted me once again. This is not acceptable behavior on Wikipedia. You need to start discussing on talk pages better. I'm already irritated that I spent weeks on an argument started by you at Limp Bizkit that you also failed to participate in. Don't make this a habit - discuss and only make changes if you've got a consensus to in your favor. Sergecross73  msg me  00:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, it does seem like you at least responded, but you still continued reverting when discussion was clearly ongoing and not in your favor. Sergecross73   msg me  01:03, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. At first, I didn't know there was a discussion on the nu metal talk page. Also, I decided to let the Limp Bizkit article say "American band". Statik N (talk) 15:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In general, if you're being reverted multiple times in an article, you should be look for, or start, discussions on the talk page. It should be expected. Also, it would have been nice if you participated in any of the discussions or RFCs for Limp Bizkit. Discussions went on for weeks and you didn't say a word. You should have mentioned you were okay with an option. In general, if you're going to be working on such a subjective, contentious subject area like music genre on Wikipedia, you've got to be more active on discussions on talk pages, or you're going to get yourself into trouble. (I'm not saying it as a threat, just in a "this never ends well for editors" type way.) Sergecross73  msg me  15:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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genre warring?
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Nu metal
I bid you good luck. I think it's overdetailed myself and think it's got a 1 in 3 chance of failing from non-adherence to WP:Scope. But I hope you pull it out - it may pass GA but it's certainly the kind that is still far from FA when passed.  danny music editor  Speak up! 23:23, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I think it could get a good article. But for featured article I'll have to remove some stuff. Statik N (talk) 23:27, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Toxicity (album)
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Re: File talk:Blink-182 1999 Teen Choice Awards.jpg
the photo you uploaded was taken by someone else than the flickr uploader. i've tagged for speedy deletion once again. Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Post-grunge
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You will notice that I archived one of the article’s citations (#1). I suggest you archive the rest of the article’s URLs as time allows. This ensures that the article's references are available "forever" and it doesn’t develop “dead links” over time. The site I use is https://archive.org/web/. Simply copy the URL in the citation and paste it in the “Save Page Now” box on the archive.org site and click “Save”. This creates a copy of the original page and provides you with a new URL to add to the original citation. If you look at the URL I've archived you'll see the syntax. You add the new URL to the end of the original citation like this: |archiveurl=http etc|archivedate=14 February 2017}}. Not all websites allow archiving so there's not much you can do about that unless there is an alternate citation you can use.

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Pantera Userbox
Out of curiosity...which Pantera song are you referencing? I've only heard stuff from Vulgar Display of Power and if it was on that albu, which I own, I missed it.  danny music editor  Speak up! 22:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest and Vandalism
Hi Ive undone your edits as they are only in the interest of you trying to take the heading off of the section it goes in an attempt to promote a section that some groups "invented" to try and gain attention instead of just doing the work. Removing the header isn't aggravating at all but is useless. However its now on the Hardcore Punk page and you are welcome for discussion and are encouraged to Participate. Thanks Bud! 73.150.168.222 (talk) 15:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Skate Punk
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