User talk:Status/2010/10

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Edit summary
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 * Haha it's okay. Just please try to remember. :) Yvesnimmo (talk) 21:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Strip Me
Hello Zach, In future it would be appreciated if you were to ask me first, before copying one of my sandboxes to create Strip Me (or any other article for that matter). I had deliberately not created the article because I didnt think it was notable hence my sandbox's existance. --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  18:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Never create an article by cutting and pasting another one. It causes licensing problems. I've deleted the result. Feel free to talk with Lil-unique1 about any changes you think should be made to his sandbox version, but you should probably leave it to him to move the article when it's appropriate.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Greatest Hits... So Far!!!
Hi, IK was wondering if you can please stop adding the track listing to Greatest Hits... So Far!. It has not yet been confirmed on a major music retailer of the LaFace or pink's website. Im sure it''ll be released soon. :) Thanks PinkFunhouse13 (talk) 22:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Or please point out the link on her website that confirms it :) Thanks PinkFunhouse13 (talk) 22:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger
You should definitely know by now that Twitter is not an appropriate source. Until there is more information "Poison" cannot be listed. Also there is a discussion at Talk:Nicole Scherzinger that "Puakenikini" and "Supervillain" were singles. They were released but because they failed to appear on the iTunes 100 both were cancelled. It is difficult to source more verifiably than already done because we're talking about a retrospect event. But all the sources provided, none say the latter two were promo singles. So nope they're staying. "Poison" is going until officially confirmed. Remember what happened to "Nobody Can Change Me"? --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  22:24, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Becauser Twitter accounts are often hacked etc. Its the same reason Facebook and Myspace accounts are not reliable sources, also there are copyright violation issues. Well you can't make an objective judgment and say oh because they were not sent to radio they should be promo singles, that's WP:OR. We only have archives for airplay for Rhythm Crossover and Mainstream Airplay not for Urban, Urban AC etc. so its too much of a bold statement. All the sources say that both songs were released as the third and fourth singles. What happens afterwards is not our concern because effectively we dont have a source saying their release was cancelled but its obvious that it was in that videos were not made, and the singles were not promoted. Unless you have a source saying that they were specifically promo singles you can't claim so. They were released just like any other singles. As for "Nobody Can Change Me" that was premiered on radio by Nicole, she even called it her new single. But it was never sent for airplay or released for download. The point I'm trying to make is wait for something concrete. --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  22:42, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Lights
This page is not appropriate for speedy deletion, as you have been informed multiple times. Please stop tagging it, as any further tagging of it will be interpreted only as disruption. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:55, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Discographies
To bring a long discussion into a short summary is quite difficult. But basically in that long discussion we've fought tooth and nail to hammer out new guidelines which satisfy the ever changing rules and manual of style. They new format agreed and now in use can be seen at WP:DISCOGSTYLE. All discographies will eventually look like this but its going to be a slow process. In the mean time you'll see that I've started sorting out Kelly Rowland discography while another user has completed Rihanna discography. Whilst it is correct for you to convert other discogs if you edit them please be aware that not a lot of people are aware of the changes and so they might revert or resent your edits. You have to kindly explain to them about WP:DISCOGSTYLE and as well point out that discussions have taken place on the talk page for months. It would probably be best for popular artists to mention it on the talk page first and try and get some support from others who edit the articles regularly. With regards to tables see WP:Wikitable and all will be clear! --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  11:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Other charting songs are now officially allowed per the talk page as long as they have a seperate heading: . I've converted Nicole Scherzinger to the new format but I'm not entirely satisfied with the results. --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1  &#124;  talk2me  00:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Cannibal (EP)
You've been here awhile, I shouldn't have to warn you about making unsourced edits. Please don't do it again. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 23:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, now you adding a source which doesnt way what you said. Please revert your edit. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 23:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it will do for now. But for future reference, its not a race, next time wait till a 3rd party ref publishes it please. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 23:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Kesha discography
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to Kesha discography, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. Yves (talk) 23:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And pleasee use the preview button to avoid mistakes. Thanks. Yves (talk) 23:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you going to covert Other Charted Songs as well? - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 00:46, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Kesha
Re. Template:Kesha and the possible addition of "We R Who We R"

Please discuss this on the talk page, Template talk:Kesha.

Thanks,  Chzz  ► 16:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Taylor Swift discography
What are you planning to do with the Taylor Swift discography article? -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 22:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All discographies will have to be updated to the approved version of something like what is currently Rihanna discography and Kesha discography. Yves (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * When were these changes discussed? I think the prior version is 900 times better. In the guidelines, it gives Nirvana discography as an example and they're are not following it. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 15:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Loud (Rihanna album)
Hi there. I recommend you please revert this edit. Just because the single release is different doesn't mean it will be on the album as a regular track; your source does not support such claims and your edit is then considered WP:OR. There are reliable sources there that confirmed the remixed version of the song as a bonus track, which should not have been removed. Thank you. Yves (talk) 07:05, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Nelly Furtado discography
I'm going to have to ask you to stop reverting my edits on Nelly Furtado discography section. As you can see, on Beyoncé's discog section, it shows more than just studio albums...and it is a good article. Another example in a good article is the discography of Justin Timberlake. The discography sections show the phonograph recordings of a particular artist. This includes EPs, compilation albums, videos and anything an artist has released that's been recorded. There is no discography section guideline that states that it must "only show the studio albums". The point of an article is to show information and link other relevant articles to it and by removing those other albums, you are excluding information. So again, please stop reverting my edits. If you do not feel my edits are constructive, please give me a rational explanation. Thanks, Garry says OK (talk) 05:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll revert my edit. However, you should have shown me that in the first place lol. I tried searching all over Wikipedia for an article long ago for those kinds of guidelines and I couldn't find any of them so I just went with the Manual of Style rule. Well sorry, for the nonsense. Garry says OK (talk) 06:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol, I agree...it sure was. By the way, I found a site that said October 26 was the release of Fuerte (song), which sounds reasonable considering Nelly's been talking about it more recently. But the site also stated that it will be released off her "Best of" album.. so do you happen to know of a reliable source that can show that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gariseiro (talk • contribs) 11:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Bangladesh production discography
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 * Re: the above, I declined the speedy. But next time, Ending-start, please don't forget to add an introductory paragraph when you create a new article, even if it's just a discography. -- &oelig; &trade; 05:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Speak Now genre
Usually with controversial edits to genre(s) on album articles, a consensus is the best way of sorting it out. For example, the one reached for the Rated R (Rihanna album) article, in which musical elements and genre were discussed and distinguished. To support any such consensus or genre edit, genre content for articles about recently released albums should be based mostly on sources/references such as the majority of critics' reviews on the album. For instance, if most critics noted an album's genre/style as R&B and pop (not individual songs), those genres should probably be included. With regards to the use of the digital store iTunes as a source, articles/reviews as sources are preferred for WP articles in general. Dan56 (talk) 19:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Pink Friday
You need a source to back your claim that "Roman's Revenge" is a promo single. –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:49, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * There is a source that shows release, and that is more than enough. Stop reverting immediately or you will be reported for disruption. –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:53, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * A source has been added showing release. You need a source calling it a promo single. –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:59, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Frankly, your opinion on what something seems like does not matter. This is not a promotional "Countdown to Pink Friday" campaign so you can't assume it's a promo single without sources. If it's been released as an individual single on iTunes, it should be treated as an official single until we get official word otherwise. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia works based on verifiability. What is verifiable right now is that the song is a single on iTunes. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:05, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit war
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Pink Friday. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Yves (talk) 03:51, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

The Black Eyed Peas articles
Thank for helping out with The Black Eyed Peas articles! I see you around editing some of their pages. There are just so many articles that I would like to help out with, and would be quite easy to reference properly, write solid paragraphs about, etc., but I have just been so busy with school, as well. Plus, there are all these IP users not liking the usage of prose instead of bullets in "Singles" sections of articles, when it is clearly what is to be used. So thank you for your contributions! :) Yves (talk) 23:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what Jordin Sparks tells me. :) Who knows, maybe we could work to bring them up to GA status or higher sometime? Yves (talk) 23:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know if a WikiProject would be the best thing at this point; personally, I think it's an overcomplication, and they can get abandoned really easily. I prefer to just edit whichever articles I'm interested in whenever I feel like, and collaborate with primary contributors on either their talk page or that of the article. Works for me, and I don't have to be actively editing those pages for fear of being moved to the "inactive users" list haha, and can take my time. Yves (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)