User talk:Status/2012/07

DYK for Run the World (song)
Yngvadottir (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other/GA2
Status, it looks like while you say the article has been passed on the Review page and list it in your group of completed reviews on the backlog elimination drive page, you haven't actually closed out the review as a pass. The article's talk page hasn't been changed to indicate that the review is completed, so it still shows up on the GAN page. Can you please finish this with the usual "i"-dotting and "t"-crossing? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:44, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow. I can't believe I forgot to change the talk page! Thank you for letting me know!  Statυs (talk) 01:56, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Does Anybody Hear Her GA
Issues are corrected. :)  Toa   Nidhiki05  02:15, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Justin Bieber on Twitter for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Justin Bieber on Twitter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Justin Bieber on Twitter until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

Informing you of this nomination because of your previous participation in the Justin Bieber on Twitter merge into Justin Bieber discussion.--LauraHale (talk) 03:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Lots of people have contributed to the article to improve it. I'm personally confused as to how the topic is not notable given the over 150 sources in the article.  I'm also boggled by WP:SYNTH.  If we demanded 150+ sources in an article where Google News searches brought up 3000+ results and 175 sources on newsbank with Bieber + Twitter in the title, several books that mention the topic, and some academic works on it, we'd be in some trouble. As for SYNTH, lots of articles would suffer that including Barack Obama and Rwanda. If they didn't do that, they would then get accusations of copyvio for the organisation.--LauraHale (talk) 03:26, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Products & Endorsements for Jennifer Lopez
I don't think products/endorsements should go into her main section because there is already a lot of information. Need i talk about her impact like bringing back Celeb endorsements etc? And recently she was just named #1 by UK; where does all of that go? Whatever...is there any chance of bringing it back or have you made up your mind? :\ If it was too long, it could have just been trimmed, the info that wasn't as relevant could be removed. I'm not really comparing but the Beyoncé Knowles article includes bio, artistry, legacy, philanthropy and other ventures (Which is basically products & endorsements)...and that article is a GA.. Sorry for the length of this message, i would just like you to maybe re-consider a little bit. If the article is too long i could begin to trim the legacy & artistry section? Please reply when you have time, thanks. − Soap  Jar 03:56, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you happen to see my other message? It would be in my archives.  Statυs (talk) 04:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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"Your account is currently unavailable due to a site issue. We expect this to be resolved shortly. Please try again in a few minutes." − Soap  Jar 06:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What the hell? That's really weird man. Why don't you just get Google Talk already?  Statυs (talk) 06:32, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

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Twitter discussions
As someone who participated in the discussion at Talk:Barack Obama on Twitter/GA1. You should be aware of the current debates about similar topics:
 * 1) Files_for_deletion/2012_June_30
 * 2) Files_for_deletion/2012_June_30
 * 3) Articles for deletion/Ashton Kutcher on Twitter
 * 4) Articles for deletion/Justin Bieber on Twitter--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:00, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012
You have been blocked temporarily from editing for edit warring, as you did at Wait Your Turn. This is truly remarkable on the heels of yesterday's WP:ANEW issue that you were involved in and warned about.

Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Toddst1 (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Are you fucking serious? I made two reverts on a page where editors were reverting me with no reason to do so.  Statυs (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly. You were not blocked for violating WP:3RR. Toddst1 (talk) 22:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. So I got blocked for making one revert on a page where there were issues, and another with users revering without premise. Alright. Makes perfect sense to me.  Statυs (talk) 22:40, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Another block from Toddst1? This is worrying me. — Hahc 21  22:45, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to know how removing unsourced content: "The song was originally going to be released as the second single from the album; however, it was later announced that "Hard" would become the second single instead, whilst "Wait Your Turn" served as the promotional single" and having users who WP:IDONTLIKEIT (the fact that the song was released as a single) revert me, and reverting back twice as they had no premise to revert equals me being blocked.  Statυs (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And as for yesterday, "Reverting to enforce certain overriding policies is not considered edit warring. For example, under the policy on biographies of living persons, where negative unsourced content is being introduced, the risk of harm is such that removal is required". That is exactly what happened yesterday. You clearly aren't aware of what happened at all.  Statυs (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Completely unfair. The only thing Status did is improving the page. "Wait Your Turn" was released as a single from Rated R, even though some users made some IDONTLIKE edits on them. At least he should be warned about the 3RR, but being blocked? It's just too much... — Tomica   (talk)  22:53, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, Status: This goes well beyond that. You're not the first one blocked recently with no strong rationale behind it. I know that only for being involved on edit warring (as I suppose you may have been) you can get yourself blocked, but these actions are really suspicious. I assume good faith on their actions (they're admins, after all), but first Calvin999 loses the right to edit his own talk page by no apparent reason and without a guideline/policy supporting the block, and which was questioned by another admin on the bloking admin talk page, and now this, another unreasonable block. — Hahc 21  22:54, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

For everyone screaming "unfair", I'll ask the first, obvious question: where is the source that confirms this song is a single, anyway? I'll be sympathetic if someone can show me that Status was preventing someone from replacing well-sourced information with unsourced information, but I can't look at the article and see that.&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:01, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Look at this. Bunch of sources saying that "Wait Your Turn" was and still IS available for digital download in certain territories in Europe, South America and Australia. Here is another source saying that the song was scheduled for an international release. "Hard" was released only in the US. —  Tomica   (talk)  23:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Per the definition of a single: "In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a recording of fewer tracks than an LP record or an album. This can be released for sale to the public in a variety of different formats. In most cases, the single is a song that is released separately from an album, but it can still appear on an album." It was released separately from the album in various markets for purchase. Thus, a single. A promotional single is "an audio or video recording distributed for free". Additionally, the source used to show that "Hard" was released as a single instead of "Wait Your Turn" only mentions "Hard" being a single.  Statυs (talk) 23:06, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you WP:QUACK?  Statυs (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The correctness of the edit isn't the issue. It's that neither version was cited (as KWW pointed out) and it was a case of "what I wrote is better than what s/he wrote" - a classic edit war.  Toddst1 (talk) 23:21, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you not read my above statement? There are sources in the article calling it a future single when it was leaked, and then sources for it being released as a single, which the definition of such is stated above. There were zero sources in the article calling it a promotional single.  Statυs (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You place an enormous burden on people watching articles to do research to determine that you are right. Do you think an edit summary that included a description like "released separately from the album, see http://itunes.apple.com/au/album/wait-your-turn-single/id341080603" might go a long way to changing the outcome of a situation like this?&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The information is clearly already present in the article. I didn't feel it be necessary.  Statυs (talk) 23:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * When two different editors revert your change, you really should stop and figure out what's going on and why you're being reverted. That's what we have talk pages for.  And your behavior in this situation is why we have edit war blocks.  Toddst1 (talk) 23:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * A simple comment from Todd stating that I should be more clear when doing the edit, so users don't feel the need to revert would have been perfectly fine. But a block? And a block that involves yesterday's conflict (which is excluded as being an edit war) would be a conflict of interest: "Administrators must not block users with whom they are engaged in a content dispute; instead, they should report the problem to other administrators. Administrators should also be aware of potential conflicts of interest involving pages or subject areas with which they are involved. It is acceptable for an administrator to block someone who has been engaging in clear-cut vandalism in that administrator's userspace."  Statυs (talk) 23:37, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You missed my point. When I see an edit war going on, I make a quick analysis, and a big factor in that analysis is the explanation given by each editor. An editor that reasonably points at a policy or a source gets big brownie points when I'm trying to make my decision between "edit war" vs. "editor defending an article against vandalism". Very, very, very rarely am I going to read an entire article and see whether I think one editor is right or wrong. In fact, we aren't supposed to do that, because doing so comes very close to taking sides in a content dispute.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * What about the explanation given for reverting me in the first place? Does that not count for anything? One user claimed that the song was not released anywhere, when it is sourced in the article. The users clearly just didn't like it. I will repeat myself, a simple comment from Todd stating that I should be more clear on what I would be doing would be fine. Then, if it happens again and I do the same thing, a block would be justified. But here, it is not. I'd at least think that after I actually fully explain what happened, the issue could be resolved. But Todd clearly will have nothing of it, as he is not even replying to what I am saying about it. I could understand how it could look like at first, but after an in-dept explanation, it is clear that what I was doing what was not being disruptive to Wikipedia and a block should no longer be in place.  Statυs (talk) 00:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * That's exactly the point: based on the explanations given in the edit summaries, the two of you were equally in the wrong. If you provide me with an assurance that in the future you will always provide an explicit pointer to a source or relevant policy when reverting a second or greater time, I will undo your block now. It's not going to protect you against 3RR, though, and you should remember that I do pay attention to your edits and I have a long memory.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:29, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I assure you that after this experience, I will make sure that my edit summaries are good enough so it doesn't cause any of this.  Statυs (talk) 00:32, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The editing restriction is going in your block log, so please be explicit: "I will always provide an explicit pointer to a source or relevant policy when reverting a second or greater time".&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I will always provide a source or relevant policy when reverting a second or greater time.  Statυs (talk) 00:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You are unblocked. There didn't seem to be any autoblocks in effect.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I was wondering how long it would take you (Status) to figure out that all you had to do was to say that the edit war was over and/or won't continue with the same behaviour. Good unblock Kww. Toddst1 (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Deseo (fragrance)
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 * Oh my! I totally forgot about this article.  Statυs (talk) 23:00, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I saved the article on my userspace: User:Hahc21/Deseo in case it gets deleted. — Hahc 21  23:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Can you do the same with all the other articles Splash seems to be nominating following my block? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. I just hope not to get blocked for it haha. — Hahc 21  23:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Following this exchange, the two of you may wish to visit and contribute to this discussion. SplashScreen (talk) 00:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you see my comment about how I forgot about the article? I was starting the article, and then completely forgot about it. It would not be recreated as its state and I endorse its deletion. Deleted articles are allowed to be copied into userspace to be worked on and put back in at a later date. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Yet more edit warring?
This time on If You Had My Love and yes, you are blocked again for resuming that behavior immediately upon release of your previous block for edit warring. Toddst1 (talk) 04:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? I reverted the addition of unsourced content on an article and explained to the user that they need to provide a source for such information. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 04:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but repeat reversions of the same edit is edit warring.  .  Perhaps you should actually read WP:EW.  Toddst1 (talk) 04:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My two cents. You're right Toddst1, but, per BLP: "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion" and the same EW: "Reverting to enforce certain overriding policies is not considered edit warring." Also, EW says "When reverting, be sure to indicate your reasons.", which was made by Status. Regards. — Hahc 21  04:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

"Editing restriction: 'I will always provide a source or relevant policy when reverting a second or greater time.'", which I did <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 04:26, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * He is trying to maintain a WP:BLP! How is that grounds for a block? See WP:3RRNO. Till I Go Home talk 04:28, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because the article is about a song by a living person (it's not a biography) doesn't mean you are free to edit war at will. Saying a single's genre is R&B is about as far from defamatory as you can get.  You should learn a hell of a lot more about our policies if you're going to try to wikilawyer like that. Toddst1 (talk) 04:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because the genre is not supported by a single source is ground enough to delete it already without further notice, and without being considered as Edit warring. — Hahc 21  04:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And also, BLP doesn't explicitly mention "defamatory". It says any poorly sourced or unsourced content. If you've been aware of why that policy exists maybe you should understand why something as simple as a genre is controversial. Just to give you an example: Without a source, you can name a folk song as to belong to the reggae genre. — Hahc 21  04:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Where's the edit war? I'd like to know. I explained to the user why I reverted their edit, which is required of. There's tons of causes of users putting in genres in song articles without any sources, just what they feel the song is. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 04:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See diffs above. Toddst1 (talk) 05:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry but that's not edit warring. Till I Go Home talk 05:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it is you whom needs to learn more about Wikipedia's policies. Blocking people without a valid rationale is ridiculous and should never be tolerated. Till I Go Home talk 04:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Home. Knowing a "hell out" more of policies is not enough. You need to know why such policies exist and understand them to then, after that, properly apply your rationales based on the actions of the user. I've been here for almost 6 years, and 4 as a registered user, and I don't need to be an admin to know the policies from head to toe (which I already do since a couple of years ago), and i'm pretty sure that my grounds are perfectly supported. Cheers! — Hahc 21  04:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This really is quite shocking. The edit war policy states that an edit war "only arises if the situation develops into a series of back-and-forth reverts". Status reverted two separate IPs on two different days who changed the genres without explanation. How is that edit warring? Seriously? How is reverting unsourced material edit warring? I would actually care for an explanation here. He even provided edit summaries explaining the changes, saying and how there need to be reliable sources to support the claim. This is really mind-baffling. Till I Go Home talk 04:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You and Status were both baffled when Calvin999 got blocked for edit warring, you were baffled when you got warned about participating in a 2-on-one edit war on Heidi Montag, you were baffled when your report on WP:ANEW got shut down and you were baffled when your complaint on ANI not only got shut down, but mocked by the closing administrator. What's baffling is that after all this disruption, you (and apparently both Hahc21 and Status) haven't bothered to figure out what an edit war is.  Toddst1 (talk) 05:06, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Toddst1, I'm afraid those comments were way too harsh and can fall into personal attacks against Status and Home, since you're "Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views." Should I take this to ANI? I'm not interested on such paperwork, but if this doesn't end and you keep pushing this way too far, I may be forced to do so. The grounds you took this time to block Status are unsupportable, per my consideration. Last time I agreed with your block, but i'm afraid I can't do it again this time. — Hahc 21  05:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for randomly coming into this conversation (I saw a lot of edits on this page on "Special:Recent Changes" and wanted to see what was going on), but like Hahc21, Till I Go Home, and Status, I strongly disagree with this block. Like Till I Go Home and Hahc21 pointed out, Status didn't even revert edits from the same IP addresses. In fact, as Till I Go Home pointed out, he didn't even revert three times. He only reverted twice. That isn't an edit war. As Till I Go Home and Hahc21 have pointed out, he's removing unsourced information, which doesn't count as edit warring. I see no reason for Status to be blocked. He should really be unblocked. Ha  dg  er  05:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

People seem to be missing that Status voluntarily agreed to provide a source or policy reference whenever reverting for the second or greater time. That restriction is now in his block log. There's no doubt that without that restriction this block would be difficult to justify. With that restriction, though, it makes a lot more sense.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Was just looking back and noticed that I forgot to link "reliable source" to Identifying reliable sources. That would be linking to a policy, would it not be? Kind of jumping the gun, I'd say. Fastily stated it best, Wikipedia is the "home to a community that belittles and harasses its own members for the most idiotic and childish reasons". But anyways, here's the thing Kww, that's not why I was even blocked. I was blocked for: "Edit warring: Continuing EW on If You Had My Love immediately after release of block for similar reversions". That says that I was EW on If You Had My Love prior to my block, and right after I was unblocked I reverted again. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Unblock request
Note to reviewing admin(s): Under almost any other circumstance, a second revert such as Status performed would not be grounds for blocking. In this particular circumstance, performing his second almost identical revert - immediately upon early release of his previous block for edit warring under very similar circumstances is continued disruptive editing and clear evidence that this editor does not know what edit warring is, why it is considered disruptive and what the acceptable exceptions are. Toddst1 (talk) 06:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Note to reviewing admin(s): The block pattern of Toddst1 is currently being discussed at Administrators noticeboard. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 06:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This block disturbs me a bit, but only a little. Status, you were asked to provide a pointer to a relevant policy or source whenever performing a second or higher revert. In this case, a source that indicates the song is "pop" that doesn't support "contemporary R&B" is what I would have been looking for, not a blanket statement about "unsourced" when the version you were reverting to also didn't have an explicit source. Think you can find me an example of what I was actually looking for?&mdash;Kww(talk) 10:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Status shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get out of a bullshit block that should never have been issued in the first place. Joefromrandb (talk) 23:19, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Looking at all of this, I also think it is a "bullshit block" as Joe stated. The source verifying the genre was already included in the article's lead. The change he would revert was not sourced... He was simply undoing an unsourced change. How is that edit warring? Do your research before making "bullshit [blocks]".  I  <sup style="color:black;">help <sub style="margin-left:-3.8ex; color:black;">dןǝɥ   I  23:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * @Kww, after five and a half years and 61,000 edits (and a sysop bit) I'd expect that "unsourced" would be sufficient explanation without a bureaucratic WP:RS wrapper. Nobody Ent 02:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Unblock would be appropriate as explained here Nobody Ent 02:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

@Kww: I consider that asking a user to provide a reference supporting a specific genre may create some sort of conflict of interest, since that user may find a source only providing the genre they want to be included. As you are aware of all this sourcing genre debate, the fact that I asked the user to provide a source to cover his assumptions that the song was indeed R&B is a reasonable request, because different sources says different things. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 03:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

'''For any admin who happens to be looking at this unblock request and wondering if its worth it now, just because there is only a half and hour left of my block does not mean that it is no longer relevant or stands. It is ridiculous that no one has reviewed my unblock request (accept or deny). This was an unjust block, as many users have stated on this page.' <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs'' (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's pretty ridiculous that no one reviewed it. Status, my rollback rights got removed earlier today, and suddenly I don't want to be a part of the Wikipedia community anymore :( Till I Go Home talk 03:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. I am aware of that. See below. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 04:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Home: Well overcome this situation. Call me wikilawyer, call me wikifriend, i'm against losing incredible users for such things like this. Bad things happens; but as I say, every bad thing carries many good things to come. Just be patient. — Hahc 21  04:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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hey
I saw that you are blocked I don't really see what you did wrong, that sucks :| anyway i think i have the commercial performance for If You Had My Love finished basically. I'm trying to look for more stuff for music/lyrics and release but i am not getting farr :( Can you do recording/production? − Soap  Jar 06:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't do anything wrong. It will all be sorted out soon. I can do recording and production. You know where to find me. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 06:15, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea, i saw that. Some people were a bit unreasonable. Anyway, if you're not busy now, FB? Oh i have the rest of the day free, we could maybe finish up this song and go to the next − Soap  Jar 06:24, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Help!
Can somebody please redirect my userpage to here, my talk page? Thank you. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

More Help!
Why exactly is this still open when it was confirmed to be another user (Hahc21) not noticing they were logged out of their account? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 15:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The reason is all cases generally stay open for at least 7 days from the start of the investigation.  Mdann52 (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Notice
Due to the strong support I have been getting from users and seeing that I would actually be missed, the above is no longer accurate. I still, however, am considering retirement. I will still continue to edit regularly, just not as much. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 05:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Retiring
Sorry to see you go. This whole dispute has been stupid and it sucks that they forced it to this level. :(  Toa   Nidhiki05  16:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite frankly, it is. I've always been aware that Wikipedians aren't Irreplaceable, so I've always prided myself on being an active editor and not running into any major trouble. That has just pushed me over the edge. It will be a hard thing to do, as I have been an active member of the project for almost two years, but it has to be done. Of course, I will edit a few times, and will, hopefully, eventually weed myself from Wikipedia. I will be writing a formal message of my departure and reasoning once I am free of this unjustice. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 16:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Come online. Right away! — Tomica   (talk)  16:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

sadness
aw you're retired :'(? That sucks....Im sad...now there is no hope for JLo articles, gah... :'( I'm actually sad cause we had plans for other things here. I'll miss you. − Soap  Jar 16:29, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It is going to take some time. I, of course, will finish up the ends of projects I already stated. That is including "If You Had My Love". <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 16:32, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's good i guess...there's so many other things though they will never be good without you :(...are you sure this is what you are doing? It's so damn unfair what happened but still, is that one of the factors that made you decide this?:| − Soap  Jar 16:34, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Please refer to my statement above for that answer. I love editing Wikipedia. I love the satisfaction of comparing how an article looked before and after expansion. I love that little green icon. I love that nice star. But there are many things that are corrupt here that I just cannot deal with. I think User_talk:Fastily explained it best when he retired. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 16:39, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea, saw that :( i get it, you're right... well i hope we can still talk occasionally once you're gone, about JLo i mean. U 'get it'. :)− Soap  Jar 16:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course we can. You always know where to find me. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 17:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Additionally, just so you know, when the projects are indeed done and I am not active editing anymore, you can come to me anytime with help you may need on any projects you are working on. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 17:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Leaving
Awwh it sucks to see you go :( You've helped Wikipedia so much, it really won't be the same without you!--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 16:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And it will suck to go. I am not exactly quitting cold turkey, so I will still come on from time to time. A few GA nominations I have to finish up (including yours), and articles I worked on that I have yet to nominate for GA. I may end up just taking a long break, who knows. But for now, I am finishing up a few things that I need to, and getting the hell out of here. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 16:42, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * First of all, thanks for the pass at Gym Partner. And, it is bad to see you leave... :) I wish you all the best in the future and hope that You will get a life unlike me, as all I do as edit Wikipedia 24/7, and have not been outside for a week now. :) Cheers, --Khanassassin ☪ 16:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It was my pleasure. Haha, it's been the same for me, don't worry about it. I wish you all the best. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 17:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Damn, it's true what they said about our best editors leaving from blocks that wasn't really warranted. Sucks to see you go. Erick (talk) 17:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it most certainly is. I have finally found and constructed the information for a background section that could be used on "No Me Ames". I will add it to the article once I'm unblocked. We should then nominate it for GA. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Departure
This is quite disgusting. You've been an incredible friend and good editor and watch you leave is very sad. I'm praying for you to stay, but it's your desicion at the end. I'll be in contact with you from the outside ans we've been doing. This situation discouraged me either from editing on Wikipedia, and i think I will extend my Wikibreak for a longer period. Cheers! — Hahc 21  18:40, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support Hahc. I think that is more or less what I will being. We're not the only ones who have been discouraged over this. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 20:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Jeeze i'll be sorry to see you go if you end up retiring. &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  <sup style="color:black;">[talk]  21:26, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I would be sad to go. Especially with you finally starting to edit again. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Ain't it funny...
...how both I and User:Till I Go Home get our Rollback rights removed, yet User:Hahc21 does not? Let me explain. User:Toddst1 left Till I Go Home a long message on their talk page stating that "Rollback requires a thorough understanding of WP:EW, WP:3RR and to some extent WP:BLP all of which you are clearly having problems with." He left a note stating: "Editor's repeated statements have made it clear that s/he doesn't understand what an EW is and isn't, so removing RB. This may be restored later if the user demonstrates a full understanding of the policy." Now, Rollback does not require any of the sort. The page states: "Administrators may revoke the rollback feature or issue a block in response to a persistent failure to explain reverts, regardless of the means used. However, they should allow the editor an opportunity to explain their use of rollback before taking any action – there may be justification of which the administrator is not aware (such as reversion of a banned user). Similarly, editors who edit war may lose the privilege regardless of the means used to edit war." Till I Go Home has not done anything of the sort, and should not have his rollback rights removed. Similarity, Toddst1 has accused Hahc21 of not the same issues, but has not removed his rights. My rollback rights were also removed for "repeated blocks for edit warring, not understanding EW policy and exceptions". "not understanding EW policy and exceptions" is not a valid reason to remove rollback rights, as I previously stated above. He is, however, still entitled to remove the rights per: "Similarly, editors who edit war may lose the privilege regardless of the means used to edit war." But he is still bound by this: "However, they should allow the editor an opportunity to explain their use of rollback before taking any action." which in this case would be normal undoing. It has also been disputed the fact that what I had done was even an EW, which has been discussed above. User:Gimmetoo explained this situation perfectly: "This is a good example of the problem of inconsistent standards and punishment. Not everyone agrees there was even edit warring." Toddst1 blocking me because he felt I was edit warring isn't technically wrong, as Gimmetoo also stated, but him then taking away my user rights is, especially if I hadn't even used the feature during the "edit war". And also considering I rarely have even used the tool. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I forgot that this user right is required to use Huggle. I don't use it on Wikipedia itself, only on Huggle. Now I can't use Huggle... <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Just another in the long list of abusive, bullshit blocks against editors trying to protect the encyclopedia. Unfortunately (Personal attack removed) Toddst1 is far more concerned with his ego than actually doing anything helpful here. Joefromrandb (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * And he has done it again!! May I reiterate my earlier statement, "Do your research before making 'bullshit [blocks]'."  I  <sup style="color:black;">help <sub style="margin-left:-3.8ex; color:black;">dןǝɥ   I  23:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm about wanting to ask him if he's open to recall, but I have no interest in getting in a Meta dispute.  Toa   Nidhiki05  00:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Since Todd doesn't seem to want to leave a response here, which he is clearly aware of, as he has asking other user to comment to another user about something they said here, I will be forced to bring this up in, yet another, ANI report. Edits to this section can still be made until I am unblocked, in which time I will be moving this to a appropriate section of Wikipedia where all can see. I'm really interested in seeing what others think of this. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, he asked me to look at the one edit, I did, I left an appropriate, personal message, limited solely to the issue of the post. I haven't looked into Status's block, but noticed that it was already being discussed at ANI earlier.  The only other time I've had contact with Toddst1 was when I unblocked User:FleetCommand, someone who Toddst1 had blocked.  Obviously, we aren't buddies.  I'm guessing that is why he asked me, since most people would see me as neutral in regards to his actions, plus I'm rather outspoken about bad blocks and admin accountability myself (check contribs if there is a doubt).  I'm not taking sides here, I just said personal attacks aren't acceptable and I politely asked him to remove them.  And of course you are welcome to bring it up in any venue and I will happily participate, although the paragraph above is the whole story.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  01:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I was in no way implying that you two were friends and he asked you to stick up for him. I have no problem with the message you left the user. I was just noting evidence to show that he was aware of this discussion, but refused to comment. This is per the ANI page: "Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page." I tried, and it backfired. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 01:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't take it wrong, and honestly, it was probably better that he asked someone neutral to take a look and for him to step back a bit, so I won't hold that against him. As an admin, when I'm in a contentious situation, I will ask neutral editors or admins to take a look at a situation, to make sure I don't overreact.  We are all flawed humans, after all.   As for the frustration, I know there are always plenty of reasons to be upset over a block, good or bad, so I don't begrudge anyone for a little venting.  At this point, I just don't want to see more blocks, good or bad, over the situation.  Since you mentioned and linked the note and my comment, I thought it would be proper if I came in and addressed your valid concerns.  I'm always available to answer why I take any action.  As for the block, I will have to leave that to you, ANI and him for now, I just don't have the time to properly review it or I gladly would.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  01:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have seen you around, and I appreciate that. You're a really good admin. There should be more like you. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 02:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Part of the reason I just started WP:WikiProject Editor Retention was to deal with these concerns, and of course all the different reasons why editors leave Wikipedia. I do not like seeing "retired" banners on editors pages when the editor could be instead helping us build an encyclopedia.  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  14:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that WikiProject is a great thing. There are surely some issues with the blocking yesterday. I think Gimmetoo stated it best: "This is a good example of the problem of inconsistent standards and punishment. Not everyone agrees there was even edit warring. In practice, unsourced content routinely gets removed, and editors are not usually blocked for it. To rephrase bbb23: Even if one believes that Status's action wasn't perfect... that doesn't make it wrong. User:Toddst1 apparently has a particular view of edit warring. Now, people are welcome to have a range of views, but Toddst1 administrated those views by blocks and removal of user rights. I wonder, how would Toddst1 react to someone blocking him over a difference of view of appropriate administration? An admin needs to look at the overall situation, including the likely effect on the editors involved, before using tools. So Status is considering leaving - is that really a good outcome?" Additionally, for that reason, don't you think I should have my rollback rights restored, per 1) being removing several hours after my block, seems as if he didn't notice (as he said) I had them and jumped to remove them when he noticed and 2) it is even being disputed that I was edit warring in the first place, by many other editors. The last reason would be the understanding thing, which is the only reason he gave Till I Go Home, which isn't a requirement to have rollback. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 18:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

hey
Can we finish the article now? :) − Soap  Jar 06:29, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't there some place you should be? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 06:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm there right now on FB, where are you? − Soap  Jar 06:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thank you so much for this award. It means very much to me. I don't know if you noticed the above, but I haven't exactly felt appreciated around here as of late. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 09:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't let a rogue admin run you off the wiki. Silver  seren C 10:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Considering retirement?
Wow, that came as a surprise when I saw it. I should hope that you give that idea a lot of thought before jumping too quickly. I personally think you do some very awesome work around here that often incorporates a lot of really good, straight forward common sense. When I stumble upon music articles that are really messed up, I often use your last edit in history as a calibration tool for figuring out what went wrong it after you left. I trust your judgement and knowledge in the area of modern pop music, and you're the user I'd most likely come to if I needed advice or a second opinion in that particular subject area. I urge you to try hard to shrug off whatever is currently bothering you, stand up straight, and carry on with what you do best. I look forward to seeing more of you in the months to come. :) -- WikHead (talk) 22:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your kind words, it really means a lot to me. You probably have taken a look now and seen the above mess on my talk page. Because of all this, I have felt as if I am really appreciated here. After the response when I posted the template here, it seems as if I was wrong. I am trying very hard not to let it bother me, but it's quite difficult. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 22:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I did indeed notice there was a bit of a disturbance above, and I clearly understand how it could come as quite an unexpected blow. Only you know what's best for you, but this may be the true test of your integrity... and I'm sure you will continue to shine very brightly once you're finally over this hurdle, and the uncomfortable situation is far behind you. Next time I return to your talk page, I'm really hoping to see that you've removed that template. We need you Man, get a grip . -- WikHead (talk) 22:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

wow
great amazing work on Feelin' So Good! WOW you've really turned that page around in a short amount of time....wow you expanded it so much. Love it, i just read it. :) − Soap  Jar 04:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I tried my best! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 06:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * WE really must get on that Cultural article for JLo − Soap  Jar 11:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

OMG!
Look at my talk page I am being accused of posting spam on Tomorrow (The Cranberries song) by posting this link and if notice all the pages we have worked on including Sparks Fly have been brought into this and it is claimed that we posted spam links. LOL! Swifty *<font face="Arial" color="DarkRed"><sup style="margin-left:0.37ex;">talk 04:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Your comments at Articles for deletion/Bennifer
I reinstated your removed comments at this AfD with a strikethrough, bit I see you have removed them again. Please note that Wikipedia policy (WP:AFDFORMAT) states "[d]o not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one" and the strikethrough technique is reccomended. It is important for the closing administrator to see the evolution of the debate when closing an AfD nomination, so it's best that all comments remain on the page. Thanks, SplashScreen (talk) 21:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Recommenced, not required. You clearly reinstated my comment due to the fact that the creator of the article said merge. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 21:29, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
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A cookie for you!
Aww! Thank you very much. Since I've been back, I've gotten myself 2 DYK credits. I'd say I'm settling back in fairly. Being more careful knowing that there are some users out there who would block me at the smallest thing. Thank you, that means a lot to me. I certainly will do that. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 22:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Mail
Status, you have mail. Neotarf (talk) 23:15, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

It was over
Yes, it was over. Your only next step is an RFC/A. Poor idea to unarchive it, as no immediate administrator action was to come from it. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's time to move on. Now it just seems like you have an axe to grind. --Rschen7754 19:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Seeing as how I've been an upstanding user for my entire Wikipedia career, I don't see how I would have an axe to grind. It's not as if it's clear that my block was warranted, it has been disputed. That's quite an accusation to be throwing. As for RFC/A, thank you Bwilkins for pointing me towards the next place to go. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 21:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So now's a good time to undo your grievous error...right? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What am I do undo? I don't understand what you mean. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 21:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Obviously you were supposed to undo the restoral from archive - that was pretty clear. Too late now. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 14:20, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Rschen7754 did it before I got the chance to, so... <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 14:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * By "axe to grind", it seems to me that you're just trying to get revenge for your block(s). --Rschen7754 21:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Considering that another Wikipedian user had actually started the report, your comments appear to be fairly invalid. Revenge? I'm surprised to see that coming from an administrator. I could see saying that, again, to a user whose block was completely fair. For example, personal attacks. And they are starting reports saying "This is so unfair, OMG! Take away his admin powers, like OMG!". But that is surely not the case here, can't you see? Nobody replied to my comments I made there and I noticed it got archived. So I restored it. I wasn't aware that there was a further place I could take it, as I wasn't the one who started the report in the first place (and have never). <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 21:25, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If that's the tack you want to take, then so be it; your comments don't address the point I am making, but whatever. But be forewarned that a RFC/A is a double-edged sword and could come back to haunt you. --Rschen7754 22:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I never stated that I was going to open a RFC/A; I haven't even looked at the page about it yet. All I did was thank him for "pointing me towards the next place to go". If its a "double-edged sword and could come back to haunt you" why would it be suggested to me? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 22:06, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * From WP:RFC: "An RfC may bring close scrutiny on all involved editors." --Rschen7754 22:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

All I wanted was a agreement that his block on me was either correct or incorrect. I don't want to involve the whole community like that, or make a big deal out of this. His overall actions don't seem to be that bad, although there are some questionable ones. I'm aware of the fact that admins are not perfect. I'm not the only one who disputes the fact that I was blocked. I would just like to continue on with my contributions to Wikipedia as if nothing had happened, but before that, I would require my rollback rights restored. Seeing as how it is disputed that my edits were even edit warring, and he removed them for that reason; I believe that requires a discussion among users, which is why I restored the ANI discussion. Additionally, he blocked me immediately after we had a little dispute on a user's talk page, which is covered on WP:INVOLVED. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 22:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Obviously that's not the message that came across from the whole ANI, and indeed there was no consensus in either direction - no blocks, returning of rights or emergency desysops were going to come from that discussion. Here's my recommendation: proceed as a good, valued editor.  Put all of this behind you, as you say you want to do.  In about a month go to RFPERM and ask for rollback - show proof of some examples of reverting vandalism without any specific tools.  Don't badmouth the admin who removed it - indeed, don't even discuss them.  The best way to put things behind you is to actually put them behind you.  (✉→BWilkins←✎) 14:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Born This Way Foundation
Thank you very much for your vote and message, sometimes i miss the obvious things and luckily you were there to point it out. Also good job with the messages to Swifty, i'm sure he'll be cheered up by them when he comes back. Thanks a lot!! ツ Je no va  20  (email) 22:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha, no problem. You should check out the nominator's contribs, they are all basically doing the exact same thing. Thank you; yes - I hope so too! 22:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I might just have to. Regarding Swifty, he's a really good editor and i so hope he comes back! Thanks again and have a nice day/evening ツ Je no va  20  (email) 22:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * This is a perfect example of one of his nominations that were done without WP:BEFORE. He claimed it was not notable, so I took it upon myself to prove otherwise and managed to expand it 142x. I have a feeling he will be back. It's hard to stay away from Wikipedia. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 22:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh...i see...he appears to specialise in nominations for deletion on things he doesn't research first and learns policies to support his case but then doesn't apply them properly. Perfect example being the use of WP:CRYSTAL on the BTWF nomination when i said it was notable and would continue to grow. He didn't even research any of these nominations first clearly as he's supposed to.
 * Let's hope you're right about Swifty as someone needs to do up those Taylor Swift articles. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 22:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

J.Lo images
hey for some reason Gtalk didn't work, idk why. :( Also, here are the pictures I am trying to get on Wikipedia: there are some really good ones there that can be used. I'm in contact with the uploader but i don't know how to even get them on wikipedia. HELP! − Soap  Jar  10:37, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * First, you need to get permission from them to use them on Wikipedia. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 10:38, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Or get them to change the rights to not be "All Rights Reserved" and be able to be used. That's the best way. Otherwise, they have to confirm it to WP:OTRS. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 10:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do. I basically already do have permission from THEM. But what do i do after that? Also, yea, i have asked them to change the "All Rights Reserved" part, they have yet to reply to me about that. − Soap  Jar 10:46, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I can do the uploading. You worry about getting that done. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 10:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Note to the photographer that the watermarks on the bottom of the pics would have to be removed. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 10:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you should try this person. They have more and better pics. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This would be perfect for her main. Please ask!! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 11:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, i'm getting in contact with one of them through their twitter. Yea, true. − Soap  Jar 12:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OMFG im going through their pics now, GAHHH they have so many good ones it'd be a dream to have them on here!!! − Soap  Jar 12:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Ikr? You better get permission. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 12:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Now i really wanna FB u about something Lol XD − Soap  Jar 12:10, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Pie
Till I Go Home talk 11:46, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't like pie. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 11:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Oreo, really? You couldn't go for something more expensive? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 11:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you want to swap them for a kitty? ツ Je no va  20  (email) 12:01, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Depends. Is it de-clawed and neutered? <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 12:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll even skin it like a Siamese cat... ツ Je no va  20  (email) 12:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No thanks. Those cats are fugly. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 12:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Munchkin, then? Till I Go Home talk 12:07, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Till I Go Home talk 12:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

File:If You Had My Love (Edit).ogg
This audio sample is under review. You can either join in WP:NFCR to discuss this or simply remedy the whole issue. --George Ho (talk) 14:26, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Born This Way Foundation
Hi Status, would you mind discussing the change to the lede? I reworded the start of it to: I believe this is a more accurate wording for the Foundation since they clearly aren't working solely in America or for an American-only goal. The big clue being their constant mention of making a better world (rather than a better more inclusive America) and the fact that the Born Brave buses are following her on tours to help others. There's also her poster campaign and hook-up with Viacom which were not confined to just America and so i believe this to be factually incorrect. Thanks ツ Je no va  20  (email) 23:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * "The Born This Way Foundation is a United States-based non-profit organization founded by Lady Gaga and her mother Cynthia Germanotta"

DYK for Sins of My Father
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Ohmylopez
The user has agreed happily and wants their pics to be used on Wikipedia:) and they changed the "All Rights Reserved" part when i told them too, can you upload them now? *excited* − Soap  Jar  03:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OMG. Amazing. Go on Facebook! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 03:43, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * YESSSSSS 03:45, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Push and Shove (No Doubt album)
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DYK for Jennifer Lopez: Feelin' So Good
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DYK nomination review request
Hi. :D There are a number of Australian Olympian DYK nominations open. If some one has the time, could you please review one or two? They are the following:
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DYK nomination of Let's Get Loud (Jennifer Lopez song)
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GAN hurry
You have two of my GANs, New York State Route 240 and New York State Route 270 marked for review. I am leaving early tomorrow for Wikimania 2012 and would appreciate if we could finish the reviews today. Mitch 32 (There is a destiny that makes us... family.) 16:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see there being any issues. I will do them right now; sorry for the wait. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 19:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey
I asked to author of the pics to change it, they just said "I changed to attribution creative commons. Can you use it with this license?"...Cause I'm stupid i have no idea... − Soap  Jar 04:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 04:06, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What do u mean "yes, they are!" so yes, we can use it with this license? − Soap  Jar 05:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. That is a proper license we can use. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 05:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, so all good now? − Soap  Jar 05:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Should be, yes. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 05:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * *dances* you should upload some more ;) [when u have free time] − Soap  Jar 05:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Btw, have you/are u going to nominate Jennifer Lopez: Feelin' So Good for GA ? − Soap  Jar 05:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

FB (when you have free time). Yes. Me and another user began working on "Let's Get Loud" also. Jennifer Lopez: Feelin' So Good will be nominated for GA alongside "If You Had My Love", "No Me Ames", "Waiting for Tonight", "Feelin' So Good" and "Let's Get Loud". Me and Erick already did "No Me Ames", Hahc and I are going to do "Let's Get Loud" and "Feelin' So Good" and you can I are doing "If You Had My Love" and "Waiting for Tonight". Then, once all are GAs: On the 6 and then we have a good topic! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 06:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * oh okay, sounds awesome :D I did a little bit on Waiting for Tonight for charting and stuff. :) − Soap  Jar 06:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I noticed. You ruined it its DYK chances, man. We better be able to get that 5x expanded within the next five days. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 07:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. Also, i need your help. I wanna make a new wikipedia account with a new name; am i allowed to do it? Or not? − Soap  Jar 10:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You are allowed to; but I suggest you just change your username. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 19:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

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Run the World (song)
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Re: Run the Wold
This is fancruft. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 23:51, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The fact that you can't even respond to defend it shows that it is useless information which is trying to make the article look bigger. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 00:14, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Defend what? It's not my fault you aren't aware of what background information is. 00:15, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The song has nothing to do with an album 5 years ago. That's history, not background. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 00:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Album five years ago? One sentence is a whole section? Woah man! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 00:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And how she left a record label, and how other songs leaked. RTW is not those other songs. Therefore, Fancruft. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 00:19, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * How ironic. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 00:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Um guys, please don't fight. Zach, I just read the article and I'm afraid Aaron is true but it's not fancruft, just information insignificant to the article: the thing about Love? being delayed, release of the buzz single etc. Ryoga Godai (talk) 04:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

PEI
Flew from St. John's to Halifax a week ago and then we took a ferry to Wood Islands. We're staying in Charlottetown tonight. I must say, I never thought PEI was this beautiful. —<font size="2" face="Times New Roman" color="black"> WP: PENGUIN · [ TALK ]  00:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha, welcome to my neck of the woods Penguin! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 00:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What a "Sweet Escape" from all this WP hassle. :-D —<font size="2" face="Times New Roman" color="black"> WP: PENGUIN · [ TALK ]  03:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Take me with you! I beg of you! I will be in Charlottetown a week from today to get my wisdom teeth removed. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 03:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol. All you've gotta do is resist the urge to sign in/click on the "You've got new messages". Take a break! —<font size="2" face="Times New Roman" color="black"> WP: PENGUIN · [ TALK ]  03:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Lol, get on again :) This is more important than last time :P Till I Go Home 04:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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Re:Hey
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M-156
 Imzadi 1979  →   01:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha! I was just responding to it. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 01:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ping for M-114.  Imzadi 1979  →   03:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 vs. 2012–Present
I'm being told the latter is the right way, per commonplace. However, you've said it should just be "2012". Mind helping me understand which it should be and why? I don't want WP:EDITWAR with a member over this, who clearly believe one thing while I believe another. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 06:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * "Present" should not be capitalized in this construction; when it's appropriate to use the range, e.g., "2011–present", then it should be lowercase and with an unspaced en dash. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * But should it be used if it's 2012, etc.? I mean, technically, it is 2012 so it is present? I'm being told -present needs to be used since it's common place in music articles. And I have found no such word to say such. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 07:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 is the present, so when a section is about 2012, it should only say 2012. For example, see Jennifer_Lopez. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 19:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you help me with it at One Direction, then? Since I don't want to argue it out with another editor who insists, per common place, that you put "2012-present" and won't accept anything else. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Is the one who is insisting "present" be there? I'll leave him a message on his talk explaining. <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs  (talk) 19:41, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are and have continually been. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 19:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I left him a message on his talk. There isn't really much of an explanation to use. 2012 is the present, so therefore the title is saying 2012-2012. xD <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 19:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I keep trying to say and it keeps getting reverted with little to no believable explanation. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 20:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They're still arguing this and continuing with their previous excuses. >.< Music Freak 7676 TALK! 21:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for helping me out Status!!! I know our mutual friend, Arre, has asked me to help you guys out with the Jennifer Lopez pages, so hopefully I can jump into those soon! =) Music Freak 7676 TALK! 22:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * They're doing it again, except like this "Formation (2010)" and as far as I know, we don't do the year in parenthesis. And I tried correcting, but they keep undoing it saying "There's no guideline and X article has it done." etc. They aren't open for anything other than their way. Music Freak 7676 TALK! 16:36, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Can't Stop Won't Stop (song)
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Issues have been addressed for Dæmonicus. <font face="Impact">TBrandley 19:19, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Goalball players
I think the problems have all been addressed. :) I've asked for pictures but don't know the chances of getting any soon. Spent a fair amount of time source hunting and considering the paucity of Games and documentation, they were as well documented as they could be. :) (Which is why I'm unlikely to be nominating any swimmers, track and field, wheelchair basketball players any time soon as you start getting more comprehensive playing records there.) Thanks for the speedy reviews. --LauraHale (talk) 21:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Should go under misc sports. --LauraHale (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Let's Get Loud (Jennifer Lopez song)
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DYK for Get It Started
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DYK for Push and Shove
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Hope your surgery went well!

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Nihil GA
<B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">edits 03:54, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Thanks for passing it, and especially thanks for giving a thorough review that really made me improve the article quite a bit! <B>—Torchiest</B> talk<sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">edits 04:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It was my pleasure! <font face="Arial" size="2em"> Statυs (talk) 04:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Status, just letting you know that I started a GAR at Good article reassessment/Delaware Route 17/1. -- ELEKHHT 22:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you even looked at the page above? A lot of this drama is because you gave this article a rubber-stamp review. --Rschen7754 23:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


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