User talk:Steelkamp/Archive 3

very inneresting
The phrase that included served used to be a dead give away of a notorious rail subject sock ten years ago or so - thanks for finding

an alternative! JarrahTree 01:25, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * sheesh - it seems that east perth has more 'served' than people have meals in a fortnight... JarrahTree 06:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * actually, East_Perth_railway_station sadly needs a big update, I am insufficiently refrigerated and about to get off... BOM says 32 for my location it feels hotter. JarrahTree 06:19, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes it does. The delineation between the Public Transport Centre and the East Perth railway station needs to be sorted out. Steelkamp (talk) 06:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * And the new structure just north of the traffic control centre is a separate item some time - and what it sits on top of - the former east perth depot( I have hordes of stuff to do with that I can access, in time... ), and then there was also the east perth power station and its curiousity of the short line and loco, and then if you look at the tram system - the connection of the rail and tram system occurred there, and the signal box that was there - and what the newer rail depot is sitting on... almost as interesting as... hmm enough... there's a lot more to it all... JarrahTree 06:31, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The more I think about it - a layered or multi coloured openstreet map of the area identifying the limits of the historical features of the railway/tramway/buildings etc

would be brilliant... all beyond me though JarrahTree 08:57, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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inneresting
Hal Colebatch‎ 23:29 +5,474‎  ‎Steelkamp talk contribs‎ (expanded lead and end)

might need some explanation... JarrahTree 01:59, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Explanation: I am working on improving Hal Colebatch towards Good Article status. The first stage is expanding based on Steadfast Knight: A Life of Sir Hal Colebatch, which is almost done. I need to add a section for his political beliefs though. I'm then going to add other sources from Trove and A Political Biography of Sir Hal Colebatch and expand a bit more based on what I can gather there. The final step is to go through and proof read and edit the article. The article will be well over 100,000 bytes at that point. Steelkamp (talk) 04:26, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * sheesh - you gotta be very careful - it was revertable when put up - not a ref in sight!!! Take care, thanks for explaining the way you have. JarrahTree 04:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well leads don't require sources as long as they are summarising the body, and the body is almost entirely sourced with inline citations. Steelkamp (talk) 04:52, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * hahaha - the lead was much bigger than the average australian pollie article - old hal certainly is getting to look larger than ben hur - he was only a premier for a month - JarrahTree 05:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * btw well done on clearing the 9k edit count - good work! JarrahTree 05:47, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me!
 * He was only premier for a month but yet is still significant. Apparently during the 1910s, some described him as the next John Forrest. He managed to close the WA border 101 years before Mark McGowan did. Steelkamp (talk) 09:15, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * hmm - there's a lot more to wa politics than what the average punter might know, and the fact that his son wrote his bio is a bit sad - pity there arent more extensive histories of the 1900 - 1930 political era, there's a really problematic era post forrest, that has had even historians of dogged endevour flummoxed as to the array of allegiances and going and toing and froing in the era JarrahTree 09:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR - hope you could improve more
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Pakenham railway line GA review
Just wondering when you'll continue the GA review for the Pakenham railway line page. No pressure if you've been busy- just didn't want you to forget. I'd also like to wrap it up (so I can go and fix the Cranbourne railway line article). HoHo3143 (talk) 08:38, 8 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll try and do some more of the review but no guarantee that I'll get it 100% done today. Steelkamp (talk) 08:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * All good- it doesn't have to be fully completed today. Just didn't want this to drag out for a long time. HoHo3143 (talk) 08:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It's starting to drag out a bit- could you try and finish the review within the next 24-48 hours? If you have been busy (in life) thats fine, but just wanted to remind you as there haven't been much progress recently. Thank you and looking forward to continuing acting on your feedback. HoHo3143 (talk) 06:11, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

superstitious?
we are working on station articles that were created by a prolific sock in the old days by the name of User:D47817 - maybe the ghost still lurks undetected... JarrahTree 14:38, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

You may be interested in this discussion
Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board LibStar (talk) 00:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Finished acting on your recommendations
I've finished acting on your recommendations on the Pakenham railway line article. Now that I have finished these, you can (hopefully) approve the article. Thank you for taking the time to review the article over the course of the past 2-3 weeks. Once you approve the article I will go and work on the Cranbourne railway line article as promised previously. I can still see plenty of NotOrrio's mistakes throughout the article and will change those during my rebuilding. HoHo3143 (talk) 10:37, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank You forvyour help with the George Pell entry. RFD (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * No worries :) Steelkamp (talk) 16:38, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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false info at station articles
You think you find things! Robbs Jetty railway station was a smart one - a totally fictitious part of freo line since almost the creation of the article - it was demolished in 1972 ! The tricky thing about Goldfields pipeline as to its heritage status - inneresting! Keep up the good work and thanks for keeping calistemon updated about the inherit change - we got to keep him working :) JarrahTree 10:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Western Australian radioactive capsule incident
Valereee (talk) 00:03, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

FAC
Sorry about that! Fat fingers and inattentiveness are to blame. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * LOL. I assumed it would be something like that. Steelkamp (talk) 07:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

sheesh
one template for all eras - are other states/capital cities with the same multi historical era templates? - could sydney or melbourne cope with the same? or they already have such items? JarrahTree 13:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I based the template off Template:Adelaide public transport, Template:Melbourne public transport and Template:Sydney public transport. Those templates are kinda both cases right now. The Sydney template links to Trolleybuses in Sydney and Trams in Sydney but historic operators are not included. I can foresee it being hard to list all of Melbourne's former operators in it's template (that city has had a lot of changes since the 1990s) but I'll talk to the Melbourne editors and see. I think it is a good idea to have historical pages on the template to get move visibility to pages such as Metropolitan Transport Trust. It's not really that difficult with Perth. Steelkamp (talk) 13:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for that - appreciate your knowledge of other cities - excellent - great work! I understand your point about Perth - rather narrow and less complex ... good work! JarrahTree 13:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Should Western Australian radioactive capsule incident have a year prefix?
Hi Steelkamp, just wondering, as you have done much work on the article, should Western Australian radioactive capsule incident have a 2023 prefix to distinguish it from the 1978 incident, as detailed in Kambalda Nickel Operations? Also almost 45 years ago, the 1978 seems to have created just as much news back then as the 2023 one, especially as it dragged on much longer. What is your thoughts? Calistemon (talk) 04:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Maybe not. The 1978 incident doesn't mention a capsule; it says the entire density gauge went missing. I think at a minimum a hatnote on Western Australian radioactive capsule incident is necessary but I don't think the page needs to be moved. Steelkamp (talk) 05:27, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I won't put in a requested move then. Calistemon (talk) 10:56, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I have no idea of the age of the discussants here - the 1978 issue was not as international spread as the recent event, but nevertheless it was very noisy - and even if Bjenks and I might have different perspectives, I am sure that we would agree that the weight of the issue was as notable and important, just for the fyi... JarrahTree 00:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC)


 * My two bobs worth is that the ahistorical nature of the article title is problematic, and indeed not very helpful for placement in time, like the seismic history of the state - similar incidents (maybe not necessarily radioactive) in industry over time might warrant something like the earthquakes list - industrial accidents - there might not be enough for a substantial list, but then... just a thought JarrahTree 00:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)


 * as for the totally out of order copyvio - dont let me start.... JarrahTree 09:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Premier lists
If this spreads to any of the WA, ACT, or NT lists (or elsewhere) feel free to ping my talk page to deal with it. I've indef semied the five lists this person came to again, because this is disruptive editing and a month did not get the message through to use their words. Courcelles (talk) 12:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thx. Will do. I have those pages on my watchlist. Steelkamp (talk) 14:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * They're back. Steelkamp (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * And protected. I don’t intend these pages to be protected forever, but a time limited one they just waited out… Courcelles (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

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The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:


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Your GA nomination of High Wycombe railway station, Perth
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2023 Rockingham by-election
Hello Steelkamp,

I had a go at trying to refine the 2023 Rockingham state by-election page recently by adding some information and tables. However, I am not from WA so if you could take a look when you have time on the background section and make any changes that are more correct, especially regarding the geography of the electorate.

Cheers, GarbageKarate (talk) 02:35, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, what you've added is accurate, but the background has too much detail and has information that would be better suited to the article on the actual electoral district. I think I will take my own stab at improving that article in the coming days/weeks. Steelkamp (talk) 12:17, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

you're brave
From memory, reverse engineering other sub projects always helps. I would rather be terse or whatever with points of order if they are going to consume time or effort,

acceding to general short knowledge of project creation should be something that

does not take the weight... There is the argument the fewer involved - the quicker and easier, as they used to say in theatre at least - 'break a leg', and best of luck. There are some very good template tweakers around somewhere, you might need some as there can be access issues, from memory to adjust the larger weirder templates.

Trust the current weather is being enjoyed from a position of above the temperature as found. JarrahTree 09:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Reverse engineering is the plan. I decided to do this myself seeing as there is enough support for a project but very slow movement towards getting that up and running. I'm sure I'll need the help of template editors but I'll cross that bridge when it comes to that. Steelkamp (talk) 11:39, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Interesting the template tagging brings on interesting issues see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak and the topic... JarrahTree 09:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * btw cats do not have importance ratings... and... in all the tens of thousands of tags that I have had the hazard to do on cats, I have never had anyone ask/insist on adding the project itself - methinks it is a redundant self reference similar to the andrybak conversation brought up above, if I were you, pull out that bit of jarrah from the tender (my user page photo) and let it burn away without the extra burden - sigh... JarrahTree 06:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. I keep accidentally adding importance to cats due to muscle memory. Steelkamp (talk) 06:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * my sincere apologies - I had a edit conflict and I think I accidentally removed a reply from you - but it has shown up ... in all the tens.. is about adding cat project tag... JarrahTree 06:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * apologies - but I also think the oz transport project could look intelligent if it actually project tagged its disambig pages - just a hunch - its not having red link talk pages staring out into the ether like lonely orphans... just an idea... JarrahTree 06:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean redirect pages? Steelkamp (talk) 07:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * yes - I think I have done a few of yours of nowergup - I might be wrong, but it gives a sense of a project that is sufficiently in control of understanding redirect and category issues - and it is a rounder more complete view of what a project can encompass JarrahTree 07:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Airport line stations on the Midland/Fremantle line
Hey, I just had a quick look at East Perth railway station, it seems like some if not most of the stations between Claremont and Bayswater haven’t had their #Platforms section updated to reflect Airport line services. If you get the chance, could you have a look please? Currently busy with life outside of the wiki haha. Thanks! Fork99 (talk) 21:08, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I've updated those articles now. As an aside, I don't really like those platform tables so I don't usually use them in station articles I overhaul. Generally its better just to write the destinations in paragraph form, and platform tables are only useful for stations with 3+ platforms. Anyway, this might be something to discuss at WT:WikiProject Australian Transport sometime later, to get consistency between the different states. Right now though, my priority is tagging articles as WikiProject Australian Transport. Steelkamp (talk) 07:27, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

f ing format issues
The complete omission of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transport_in_Australia

category and its implications has been left off the magesterial masterpiece of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australian_Transport assessments section,  it would be much appreciated if you could repair the damage that I have rendered upon the list (at the bottom) - as I seem to have had a senior moment amongst reverse engineering trams this and trams that... any help of any sort would be appreciated. JarrahTree 09:06, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


 * maybe I need to venture into the weirdness of the formatting, some bits have be confused... but the lack of 'transport' and what the category carries seems to be missed so far... apologies if I am intruding in on whatever... JarrahTree 09:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you should talk to ThylacineHunter about that. They have been setting that page up and could fix what you've added. For what its worth, I agree with you that there should be a section for miscellaneous topics within Australian transport. Steelkamp (talk) 09:56, 4 July 2023

(UTC)


 * hahah - thanks for your response - as for miscelaneous, hahaha, TH is quite irregular, lets see what happens... JarrahTree 10:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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bizarre
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flinders_Bay_Branch_Railway&oldid=1164471258

I find very problematic - all of the wagr - western australian railway system until well into the 2000s might be considered totally 'primitive' - there are more royal commissions into the neglected and run down wagr railway system was that there was never 'any catchup of the system despite the royal commissions, ever. To even consider an isolated rural railway line with close to the lightest rail in the system, with very low patronage at any part of its history, the use of the term 'electrification' is as bizarre as imagining that Great_Western_Railway_(Tasmania) might have happened. If I knew you in real life, I would ask you to wash your mouth out, and hold off on such bizarre comments. JarrahTree 11:18, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The 1922 and 1947 royal commissions (i need to check details) were such that the whole railway systemwas run down, rolling stock and locomotives so run down that the whole system was hardly viable, and the very thought in isolated rural lines of even a viable running system with serviceable set of locomotives would have been a dream. The notion that electrification even had been considered between 1900 and 1950, I would love to see a RS - even an annual report from the WAGR that even considered it in the metro area, let alone country. JarrahTree 11:28, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't write that. I'm just trying to update links following the Railways in Perth page move. By the way, there are a lot of pages that link to Transperth Trains or Transperth Train Operations when they should really link to either Transperth, Railways in Perth, or the Public Transport Authority (Western Australia), depending on whether the link refers to the network, brand, or operator. Steelkamp (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Apology, even if you didnt - it got to me the second I read it, as you can tell. Apology I cannot workout diffs, not sure where I get it wrong... there is so much crap in rail articles, you are scratching the surface, all the transperth stuff is serious recentism of the worst sort - railways in perth is the least problematic.JarrahTree 11:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The more I look - transperth over railways in Perth imho is wrong. All we need is another government change, and the marketing whizes turn up and like most government departments they change their name again.. JarrahTree 11:40, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * It has been a while since that article was GA nominated. Not a lot of amusement park articles get reviewed at GA in a timely fashion since there are not a lot of editors who are familiar with the subject (or, like me, feel prepared to review others' work). You stepped up in that regard. Whether you know a little or a lot, your review is greatly appreciated. Adog  ( Talk ・ Cont ) 02:56, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Glad I could help, and congratulations on your first Featured Article! Steelkamp (talk) 04:03, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

jetties
are owned by DOT - I disagree totally about your changes, Transperth is a government agency providing public transport options within the metro area, however like bus stops are owned and maintained and provided by LGA's, jetties physically have nothing to do with Transperth. It would be good to get a handle on whether you understand the differentiation. JarrahTree 07:00, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The reason I made Category:Transperth jetties is because I don't want pages such as Crawley Edge Boatshed or Fremantle Long Jetty categorised under Category:Public transport in Perth, Western Australia. Same reason I made Category:Transperth railway lines.
 * As for ownership, Category:Transperth jetties does not imply any sort of ownership by anyone, only that Transperth services use those jetties. Citation needed for jetties being owned by LGAs. This page on the PTA website seems to imply that the PTA owns at least the Mends Street Jetty. Steelkamp (talk) 08:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I dont necessarily think that jetties on the swan need affiliation with anything other than being a jetty - aligning/attributing anything other than something that is basically under the DOT (very unlikely to be ascertained from websites, despite any belief otherwise).
 * The big problem is that coode street is not a transperth jetty, and as I have ascertained that DOT is in fact (dare I say it) and not transperth the owner and maintainer of the jetty, and I would prefer to revert your edit, maybe there is some other way that the issue can distinguish the jetties... JarrahTree 12:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm saying that Transperth services operated at that jetty, which is the defining feature of all the articles within Category:Transperth jetties. This is in line with Category:Transperth bus stations‎ and Category:Transperth railway stations. It's useful to have Category:Transperth jetties because it can then be a subcategory of Category:Ferry terminals in Australia, which already has Sydney and Brisbane subcategories. If Category:Transperth jetties were to have a different name, I suppose it would be something like Category:Ferry jetties in Perth, Western Australia, in line with Category:Ferry wharves in Brisbane and Category:Ferry wharves in Sydney. It doesn't provide great disambiguation with Category:Jetties in Perth, Western Australia though. Steelkamp (talk) 04:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * For heavens sake - it is unlikely that there have been any ferries there in the time you have been alive (I assuming you are not an oldy like me) - for whatever you argue - the point is a jetty exists, it is maintained by the DOT or something in the last however many decades, and it has not been a ferry jetty for a very long time, and I think you are barking yourself up a very strange tree, in all good faith JarrahTree 04:37, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You are talking about Coode Street Jetty right? That article says "Coode Street Jetty was served by Transperth services from Barrack Street and occasionally via Mends Street until services ceased on 30 April 2005 due to lack of patronage." Steelkamp (talk) 04:40, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes - having ferries land at coode street then or whenever does not make it a transperth jetty - they neither own, maintain or whatever the items of wood on perth water - like metronet the 'operations' are a mere chimera and a bloody hindrance to some poor punter trying to use wikipedia as a guide ,
 * I really think you should move from the ahistorical 'fit' and respect the fact that the jetty (or an earlier form) was there long before the notion that figments of the imagination such as transperth is a permanent ascription to something...
 * JarrahTree 04:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

similarly metronet is not an entity or authority of any sort, but a very smoke mirrors entity from government secondments, and not anything concrete in any sense of the word... So much for its presence on social media and all... JarrahTree 07:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Regarding Metronet, I don't know which one of my edits this post is referring to. I agree that Metronet isn't an actual agency of its own. Steelkamp (talk) 08:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * apologies, maybe I was seeing diffs from another editor; at the Perth meetup today I heard a remarkable anecdotal explanation of the chimera that it is; it relates to the Railways planning body of the 1910s or 1920s that was not in any way within the railway department of the time but... JarrahTree 10:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

meanwhile
In the apples and oranges department - I am not sure it is a very wise idea to merrily enjoy mixing services; with rolling stock; with lines - such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAGR_ADG_class and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_transport_in_Perth,_Western_Australia - I really do think there is serious problem when conflation occurs in such a manner - it is increasing ahistorical and clumping at labels and names of things that are usually not found mixed together - the sense of some 'unity' under labels such as public transport might be ok from wherever you come from in time, but where I come from - the notion of separating lines, from rolling stock for services appease my friends the retired rail persons and lawyers and whatevers - it is one thing dealing with those who edit in interesting areas who do not have english as a first curse, but I would strongly suggest - public transport relates to services, rolling stock and locomotives whatever do not necessarily constitute what the term might be considered - and railway lines or bus routes can actually be considered separate as well. The probability of a more suitable arrangement is always there that doesnt fall into the one size fits all (time). The WAGR does no longer exist in name, I would be very concerned that it is clumped in with the dreaded Transperth in 'Public Transport' JarrahTree 05:05, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

The more I look at: -

Western Australian Government Railways‎ 12:25 +58‎  ‎Steelkamp talk contribs‎ (added Category:Public transport in Perth, Western Australia using HotCat)

I think it is rubbish to conflate the PTA and WAGR - the nuances might not be of concern to you for whatever reason, for me - it requires a lot more conversation somewhere - the historical phases of transport require more discriminatory processes and boundaries, as they stand I think of them as being a real hindrance for a wikipedia reader to understand context of material JarrahTree 05:34, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * WAGR belongs in Category:Public transport in Perth, Western Australia simply because the WAGR operated Perth's suburban railways until 2003. Seems pretty clear to me that it should be within that category. Regarding rolling stock, I added the WAGR rolling stock listed on Railways in Perth as the Transperth A-series train, Transperth B-series train and Transperth C-series train were already on there. These trains were all used on suburban services and thus fall under the umbrella of "Public transport in Perth". The category is called "Category:Public transport in Perth, Western Australia", not "Category:Public Transport Authority (Western Australia) or Category:Public transport infrastructure in Perth, Western Australia. Steelkamp (talk) 09:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I am interested that you claim something 'belongs' - I strongly disagree, everything about the notion of public transport being ahistorical is a real no-brainer. I do not believe the public transport of Perth between 1879 (when the railway was being started in Freo) and today belong under one category. I am not going to actually revert what I believe is wrong - it needs to be understood that 'ahistorical' things like the category requires imagination and understanding and some moving forward from conflating quite different systems.  Maybe you or someone else might need to consider the creation of public transport in eras - administrative, or some other criterion - I do not believe you or anyone else has a claim for umbrella terms for something that changed a lot between 1879 and 2023.

If I consider the terms and criterion as to how Gunzburg and May separated the stages of the railway system in Perth -



at the beginning of each chapter in both books is probably the most accurate rendition in simple terms, the history of the various transitions and conditions in the railway system - and if I was to ask them - I suspect that they both would not consider the railway system fell under a single label or umbrella over time.

But maybe I know nothing about the subject... JarrahTree 10:34, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I clearly don't, seeing


 * Claisebrook railway depot
 * Metronet (Western Australia)
 * Metropolitan Transport Trust

In the same category - railway depot, historical organisations, and a chimera/political hoax really need separation... It is a real pity there was not more of a conversation - boldly going and creating further ahistorical categories makes less room for negotiation or conversation about anything. JarrahTree 10:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)


 * It would help if you could write up on a draft page somewhere what you think the category tree should look like. If it needs a complete restructure, an overview would be the way to go about it. Once we're happy with the overall tree, we could then implement it. But doing it piecemeal, as we currently are, is probably not efficient. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I second this. It's hard to know what you even want without laying out the category tree you want. Steelkamp (talk) 11:12, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have not cf'ed with the other states of oz to see whether I am barking mad, or going further than other state projects have done - maybe they are the same as steelkamp's separation so far - I have irl issue which means I cannot do what you ask - I am from a personal point of view that 'public transport' for a state or territory needs more of a historical separation - but I am unaware of whether other states are consistent or different - and unfortunately am unable to deal with the issue adequately. Which is why I am simply pointing out a particular point of view - admittedly I may be wrong - and all other states might deny historical separations - which I am barking up the wrong forest as well. It pays to have a sense of humour about all of this - MetroNet is about to start a totally ahistorical railway site in Midland in complete denial of the historical context of the location or context - so it is in the wind... JarrahTree 11:13, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Other states, like Perth, have incomplete and inconsistent category trees for public transport. See Category:Public transport in Australia by city. Sydney and Adelaide don't even have a category for public transport. What I've done with Perth is in line with what is at Category:Public transport in Melbourne, which covers all public transport from the 19th century to 2023. Steelkamp (talk) 11:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well observed - exactly as you say! Some states dont even appear to have a category, the problem is such a poorly created set of categories - the whole oz public/transport for each state/capital city is a mess... Systematic creating of a consistent system looks like a lot of work JarrahTree 11:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * A brief review of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transport_in_Australia_by_city and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_transport_in_Western_Australia or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_transport_in_Australia - there is no evidence of any attempt to separate by era or operator - so from my comments, I am sorry to have wasted your time about the issue - clearly not enough articles to have required such a separation - I am sure we dont need to set a precedent.. Apologies for so much about this... JarrahTree 11:22, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

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sigh
It is tedious having to deal with edit conflicts over things after having been away from the horrible watchlist that I have, so I refrain from further comment about the east perth complex (the new communications centre looks very interesting). congrats on your round number edit count, and your GA's - Keep up the good work, and good on you! (updated to remove totally incorrect statement...) JarrahTree 15:31, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Orange route
In your assessment of the FA's of oz - you mention that there are plans for the Orange route - that has been something that has been floated for close to 30 if not 40 years - any links for that at all? Great Eastern Highway article needs a lot of work, even to tread water... JarrahTree 01:35, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * There is this on the Main Roads website. They are now calling it "EastLink WA", and planning for it is more advanced than it has ever been. Steelkamp (talk) 08:38, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! Change of name is intriguing... JarrahTree 08:41, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yea. It's in the same vein as NorthLink WA or Gateway WA. Steelkamp (talk) 08:49, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * inneresting - the issues of chewing through the gidge to wundowie area - that is intriguing

https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/globalassets/projects-initiatives/projects/metro/eastlink-wa/detailed-map-eastlink-wa-roe-reid-to-northam.pdf?v=499c95 - the Perth to Adelaide national highway also is another name for it for the bigger picture of course

There are enough pdf's from the main roads website - and trove items for a possible article about it all...

Thanks again... JarrahTree 08:58, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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TFA
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 * Today, it's a place that inspired me, musings if you have time. My corner for memory and music has today a juxtaposition of what our local church choirs offer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

as you inhabit these strange climes
I am intrigued by It will also be served by the Morley–Ellenbrook line when that opens in late-2024 doing in the east perth station article? - surely there is a point where the bayswater to ellenbrook line is not going to invade the midland line to east perth ? I know services get very often confused with physical tracks in a very odd manner, but I would be intrigued to hear your explanation, please if you can... JarrahTree 06:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I would use the phrase "served by" to sufficiently differentiate between the services and lines a station has. Considering the Morley–Ellenbrook line tracks only go from Ellenbrook to Bayswater, with the service continuing to Perth, I think the phrase "served by" should be used in this context. I've made sure to be careful when working on the Armadale/Thornlie articles as of recently. Saying that Oats Street railway station is "on the Thornlie line" would be a bit weird, but saying it is "served by the Thornlie line" makes more sense. Steelkamp (talk) 10:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, always appreciated - I have much more complicated understanding, but at the risk of going down a few rabbit holes to take up unnecessary detail I will leave it at that for the moment - keep at your good work! Your railway work is exemplary and to be admired. JarrahTree 11:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Lack of a list for Queensland Rail stations
Hey, are you interested in helping me write a list of Queensland Rail stations, one section for purely "Citytrain" stations and another for "Traveltrain" (Queensland Rail Travel) stations? I still despise using those names on Wikipedia, but I digress. I'll get started on a draft at Draft:List of Queensland Rail stations. Fork99 (talk) 08:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh and by the way, they don't have proper routebox template things either I don't think, I wonder if it'd make sense to make them? They just use plain text with coloured backgrounds to mention services. Fork99 (talk) 08:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure, I can help probably later in the week. I can't believe there isn't already a list of Queensland Rail stations. Steelkamp (talk) 08:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I know right, even Adelaide has one! I don't think there's a list of stations in Queensland in general either, i.e. including closed stations. Maybe we could do that later down the “track” (sorry it just came to me naturally) Fork99 (talk) 09:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Re my overly long talk page thread
Hi,

You're absolutely right that I should have split my comment here into separate threads. The two main prongs are the model railway bit and the WP:RS bit, so I can at least cut it in half. If I do that, I'd need to split your reply into two sections, but I don't think I need to change anything you wrote, and no changes are needed to the other reply. Do you mind if I make that change, before I respond to both comments? Anothersignalman (talk) 03:45, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You should just leave the comments as they are, seeing as they have already been made. Just keep it in mind for the future not to make overly long comments. Steelkamp (talk) 03:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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the more the pity
you are an avowed anonymous editor, as I would have liked to have offered a few pdfs (as I may have tried indirectly suggested in your talk some substantial time ago) and offered some items that are not easily found, online or offline regarding the Perth system. Long rave re the actual process of ascertaining things that are not part of the metronet publicity system...left off for the moment cheers JarrahTree 06:11, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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