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POV
Hi, Stephan. Please read WP:NPOV and understand why we shouldn't call someone "prominent" in Wikipedia not event when this person has a written for "numerous high-profile blogs" (whatever that may be). --Damiens .rf 06:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You're making a straw man argument. I never said Steven Novella was prominent merely because he wrote numerous high-profile blogs. Here is what I actually wrote:
 * Hosting one of the world's most popular science podcasts, speaking at TAM, writing for numerous high-profile skeptical blogs etc. makes you a prominent member of the skeptical movement. No POV there.
 * In other words, what we are talking about is a prominent member specifically of the skeptical movement. Novella clearly is prominent, since he is the host of the The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe podcast. This was my first point. Then I mentioned his speaking at the skeptical meeting, TAM. Finally I mentioned that Novella writes for several high-profile skeptical blogs. You are arguing as if that is my main point!
 * To sum up, there are two major flaws in what you posted: (1) You imply that I called Steven Novella prominent, without specifying that I called him prominent within the skeptical movement, and (2) You only mention my third point proving that he is prominent within this movement, not the first two. Stefan Kruithof (talk) 16:36, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Now onto another issue. You edited the Steven Novella article twice, producing a sentence that isn't even correct English. Twice you wrote the following:
 * Novella is best known for being a outspoken self-proclaimed skeptical.
 * The correct sentence would have ran "...for being an outspoken skeptic." (No idea what the 'self-proclaimed' does there). There is no such thing as a "skeptical". That's an adjective, not a noun. You can't complain about edits being reverted if your edits contain silly mistakes like that. Stefan Kruithof (talk) 16:36, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Finally, in your edits of the Steven Novella article you have twice claimed that there is no skeptical movement. Why are you editing articles about subjects which you are clearly clueless about? Editing Novella's article, while basically claiming he's not prominent in the skeptical movement and that there isn't even such a movement, is comparable to editing the article on Richard Feynman and claiming that he's not a prominent physicist and that physics doesn't even exist anyway.
 * If there is no skeptical movement, then who are the members of all the skeptical organizations out there? See List of skeptics and skeptical organizations. What people run the James Randi Educational Foundation, and The Skeptics Society? Who writes and who reads magazines such as Skeptic? Who produces, and who listens to podcasts such as The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe and Skepticality? The answer to all these questions is of course skeptics. Stefan Kruithof (talk) 16:57, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * When the article about Feynman states his a physicist, it uses a link to the Physicist article. When the article about Mr. Novella states his a "prominent member of the skeptical movement ", it links to the article on Scientific skepticism.
 * Is there an organized "movement" of skepticism? I will only believe when I see it--Damiens .rf 18:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You imply that a movement needs a central headquarters directing its operations. That is clearly not the case. Consider for example feminism. Scientific skepticism has a large number of organizations promoting it, with magazines, blogs, podcasts and television shows. It is clearly a movement, and your repeated denial of its existence is simply absurd. Stefan Kruithof (talk) 01:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, isn't it interesting the Mr. Feynman apparently is not a prominent Physicist? --Damiens .rf 18:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This is beyond retarded. Are you trying to argue that Feynman is not a prominent physicist? He won the Nobel Prize! Stefan Kruithof (talk) 01:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And of course, thanks for helping me with the British language. Hopefully you could still understand what I wrote despite those three extra letters. Don't feel ashamed to correct me in the future. --Damiens .rf 18:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope that in the future when you edit articles and see your edits reverted, you'll actually take the time to look at why they are reverted. You changed the lead sentence in an article from a perfectly fine one into an incoherent one, twice. Also, you misspelled my name. Stefan Kruithof (talk) 01:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

indent reset You didn't got it. My point is that the Richard Feynman article doesn't needs to describe him as "prominent physicist" exactly because the reader can conclude that from reading the article. The article about Mr. Novella needs to explicitly state this POV because one can't make the case for the reader... --Damiens .rf 03:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Since the WP:NPOV rules clearly state that prominence of a source must be taken in to account it is a safe bet that prominence is considered by that article to be something real and detectable. It would be foolish to use a resource that relies on prominence to do away with all mentions of prominence. --Brendan White (talk) 22:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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