User talk:StephRab

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Roberts (rabbi) (July 6)
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Curbon7 (talk) 15:54, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate drafts
Hi, can you clarify whether your drafts Draft:Stephen Roberts (rabbi) and Draft:Richard Roberts (rabbi) are about the same person? If so, which one do you wish to keep, as you cannot have both in the system. (And for future reference, please don't create duplicates.) Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reaching out. I so appreciate your time.
 * I am not sure how it became "Richard Roberts" from "Stephen Roberts" They are indeed the same person.  I received much needed feedback regarding the first draft and decided to step away from it and start completely again based upon the feedback.  Thus, the second submission (somehow now entitled "Richard Roberts" instead of "Stephen Roberts").  The first draft should be eliminated.  I am just not sure how to do it. StephRab (talk) 10:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I moved the new draft from your sandbox to where it is now (we prefer pending drafts to be in the Draft: name space). However, I couldn't immediately figure out how the person's name should be shown, and wanted to go for Stephen Roberts, as per some of the sources, but realised that name was already taken by the earlier draft. Once the draft you don't want to keep is deleted, I can then move the remaining draft to the correct name (Stephen Roberts).
 * As for getting it deleted, you can either request speedy deletion yourself, by placing the   tag on top of the draft, or by blanking it (deleting all the content). An administrator will then come along and delete it at some point. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Again, thank you. As per your suggestions, I added      to the top of the draft to delete and also I blanked out all the content.   StephRab (talk) 10:59, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have mentioned... you don't include the nowiki tags as part of the deletion request template (I only included them here, so that your talk page doesn't get deleted!). If you include them, it 'disarms' the template you're trying to invoke, and nothing happens. Anyway, not a problem, I've now requested speedy deletion on that draft. There's nothing more that needs to be done; it will get deleted at some point (may be minutes, may be a day or two). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:15, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Again, thank you so much. This has been an amazing learning experience, in large part because of your patience.  Once this is done, I know of at least 10 other people who should have Wiki pages up, but do not.  It is something that I will then work on.   StephRab (talk) 15:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, the older draft has now been deleted, so I've moved the newer draft to the old name, at Draft:Stephen Roberts (rabbi). (For now, there is a redirect from Draft:Richard Roberts (rabbi) to that address, but that may be deleted at some point.) Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Stephen Roberts (rabbi)
To delete it, add, provided you are the primary contributor. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Roberts (rabbi) (July 9)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by BuySomeApples was:

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BuySomeApples (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Roberts (rabbi) (July 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asilvering was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Stephen Roberts (rabbi) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Stephen Roberts (rabbi), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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asilvering (talk) 16:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. asilvering (talk) 16:30, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @StephRab, I saw your note above, Once this is done, I know of at least 10 other people who should have Wiki pages up, but do not. It is something that I will then work on. Thank you for this! There are so, so many people who should have wikipedia articles and do not. Please, work on them instead. Writing a wikipedia article about yourself is a terrible minefield for many reasons, but also consider how you might feel if your article is repeatedly declined at AfC for not being notable, or if the article about yourself is published and then goes up for a deletion discussion. (Imagine 5 or so editors all responding with some variant of "non-notable autobio. delete.") Once you have a better handle on how notability guidelines work, maybe then come back to the draft on yourself. You'll find it much easier to write and it will be less likely to be declined or deleted. (Though of course I must refer you to the "strongly discouraged" in the boilerplate notice above.) -- asilvering (talk) 16:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)