User talk:Stephen/Archive April 2007

Top Gear
While I definitely agree with you that a recency effect sure makes things difficult in making an article balanced, it isn't impossible. I watched The West Wing (TV series) be brought up to FA status during its final season and it was smooth for the most part. I guess it depends on the type of editors who edit the article. TWW had a few active editors who were able to keep the cruft down because it wasn't very heavily edited by newbies. The newbies usually are the ones who make articles quite bloated as they haven't really had a chance to get accustomed to Wikipedia standards. TG gets edited by all sorts of people, including a lot of newbies, so it would definitely be more challenging. (Disclaimer, it isn't always just the newbies, they just have a propensity to do so). Anyway...the more current question is whether our dear friend Dave will act once his block is lifted... Take it easy. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 11:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Area element
Moved with entire history to User:Stephen/math. Hope you'll make some use of it. Renata 03:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Manuscript paper
Please don't call external links "spam" unless they are. As this was a link to free dowloadable manuscript paper (included as a way for readers to see examples, it's difficult to see that it was commercial, and as it was also added only to this page, it couldn't possibly be spam. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 09:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Short of finding an image that was definitely usable under our ever-more arcane and hard-line licensing system, I thought that giving links to a couple of free-download sites was the best way of providing an illustration of the subject. If a suitable illustration could be found, that would be better, of course. --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 12:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The image is fine, though limited (for example, it's printed up ready for a piano piece; most manuscript paper before the advent of downloading was not pre-printed with clefs, nor arranged in sets of double staves). The trouble is, of course, that the article is too short as it stands to justify more than one image.  I'd like to expland the article, but I don't have any reference books that mention it, and can't find anything on the Web about the history of manuscript paper; do you have anything? --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 08:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Doyle Owl
Stop making changes to this page without proper communication in discussion forum. Of course the recent events are unconfirmed - they just happened a few days ago! This is a NEWS item. One you don't understand. Stick with geology.Grendel2110 00:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Questionable revert
Why did you perform this reversion? The anon's edit looks ok to me. --M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 (T 04:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Stephen/math
I restored the page; the history is all there so you can revert to whatever version you like. I spent a while looking at the history before I deleted it; in the end, I (mistakenly) decided that since the speedy deletion tag wasn't removed when it was copied to user space, you still wanted it to be deleted. CMummert · talk 11:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sydney Explorer
If there are no links to the page how are people going to find the article, also should Chinese Gardens, Sydney Aquarium be taken of the list of places that this bus stops at. Mindys12345 11:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

XORG editing
Thanks for the help, yes I would very much so like to link the term XORG to what I had posted originally but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I'm thinking of editing the MMORPG page to include my definition of an XORG as it doesn't fit in the MMOFPS category due to it being 1st a MMORPG, and 2nd a shooting game. It also isn't a pure RPG game either, hence it is a sub-genre. Daimos77 1:01, 5 April 2007
 * I didn't know that WP only allows widely established terms. You got me there, I can't come up with a 3rd party source for the term.  I'll have to throw the game somewhere with the MMORPG category and just highlight the first-person shooter combat in the description. Daimos77 1:21, 5 April 2007

RfA
Thank you for the support vote in my recent RfA. Although it wasn't successful I appreciate your vote of confidence. Anyway, I'm continuing on with editing Pacific War-related articles and hopefully you'll see several of them on the FA nominations page in the future. Cla68 23:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Palm
Hi Stephen, thanks for the copy editing! WikiTownsvillian 01:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it's been a bit of work (and more to come when I'm not forced to sleep) but it was really really great to be, for the most part, writing positive things and about positive developments, PI can get a bit depressing if you dwell too long on all the negatives :) WikiTownsvillian 02:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Stephen, thanks for the copyedit. Just one query, the reason I didn't put the referendum link above the lead para is because it then infers that it is further information about the subject matter of the sub-heading and not just further info about the subject matter of the lead para of the sub-heading.  I think it would be better just to provide a wikilink within the paragraph itself rather than have it at the start of the paragraph.  Your thoughts? WikiTownsvillian 03:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... all good points and ones which I have not come across references for yet. The idea of the lead para that I wrote was not to create a section on Indigenous rights over the two decade period and its affect on Palm. The reason I wrote it was that the Wilson Study seemed to naturally belong in that time period setting of which we had no sub-section to that point (when I started I didn't think it would become big enough to warrent its own section, you are right though in demonstrating that it does), so the referendum stuff was more as a lead in paragraph providing context for non-Australians as to the time periods relation to general Australian history... so I guess the aim would have been for the  'Aboriginal natives shall be counted' 1967-1985 section to end up similar to the  'Penal settlement' 1920s-60s in content and style, with the referendum stuff there to provide a context and a nifty title for the section, however at this point (having just created the sub-section) the only info I had to put into the sub-section was the Wilson Study.

I don't mind the restructure, however I think it even more demonstrates the need to move all the history and notable events stuff out of the main article and into a new history article, there's just too much history and it dwarfs the article.

I fully agree with the WWII stuff being moved out of the history section and have been meaning to do so myself, would be great if you could find some info to expand it and possibly a pic.

Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 07:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for assessment help
Hi! We crossed paths once before, back in February, on a subject related to King Solomon. (See this archive.) In summary, I made the bold-faced assertion that you had weakened an article by making a certain edit. I'm writing today to ask how that interaction seems to you now. This is part of a more general reflection on whether asserting people have harmed wikipedia is itself harmful. In the short-run, it surely does raise hackles (and tempers). But after awhile, it may also have some positive effects. Or not? I'm most interested in our particular interaction regarding Solomon, but if you have more general comments on the subject I'd welcome them too. Thanks in advance for any time you choose to put into this! Sdsds 22:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright issue with Atlantis, the Palm}}}
Hi Stephen, The contents of this page are from Atlantis, the Palm website. It seems that http://www.zawya.com has copied the same from the original website. Anyway, I have deleted the page. Thanks Asb63 10:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration proceedings
You have been included as a 'related party' in a request for arbitration Requests_for_arbitration Davesmith33 17:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo is coming to Sydney
Sorry to spam you if you aren't interested. See Meetup/Sydney for more info if you are interested. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Catalin Dragomir
You have proposed deletion of "Catalin Dragomir". We do have copyright permission, as we are the official biographers.

Can you please restore the article? An immediate deletion requires a two-way dialogue, one thinks. Or is it common to vandalise someone else’s work?

A full permision was given via email.

MAPS
So what should I do, delelete them. Mindys12345 04:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, but do you think Gregorys or whoever these maps belong to would take legal action or would there be any risk. Mindys12345 04:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Where would I get clarification from. Also If you dont think they should be there just delete them from the system completely and I won't bother again. If they are circa 1945 and the copyrite expires after 70 years, can I upload them again after 8 years or so. Thanks. Adam Mindys12345 05:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I will look into getting those maps clarified possibly next week some time, I recently found out that my brother tried to post the same maps on the internet, but this was for google earth. What he did was place the map over a modern day image of Sydney, then make the map semi transparent so you could compare the difference, he contacted Gregorys about this and they denied permission to post these maps becuase there was some conflict of interest.

I think with wikipedia it might be a little different, but I will look into it next week sometime and get back to you. Thanks Mindys12345 09:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I have recently been in touch with someone from Gregorys and I am waiting for their reply, this was about five minutes ago. Also with the Sydney explorer if the map is deleted you might as well delete the entire article because there would be no point having there without the map, but I will also look into that as well. Thanks Mindys12345 06:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I am in the process of finding out the copyright laws concerning the Sydney Explorer, I will email them a copy of the article to give them some idea of what the article is about just like I did with certain articles containing the gregorys maps. Once again, thanks. Mindys12345 06:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC) I just told you that I was looking into these copyright laws why did you delete them so soonMindys12345 06:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Maps of Sydney
Good afternoon Adam, I have checked with sensis regarding the copyright for the maps on the website. There is no problems in using the maps for your website provided that you have the whereis and gregorys logo on both maps. I have attached the whereis and gregorys logo. Should you require further information, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind Regards Nancy Kalaydjian Area Sales Manager Custom Mapping Services Universal Publishers Pty Ltd
 * Hopefully this would be enough to have the maps put back in the System. Mindys12345 06:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

For further confirmation you could confirm with these people.

Tel: (02) 9857 3763 Fax: (02) 9888 9850 Mobile: 0400 155 345 1 Waterloo Road, Macquarie Park NSW 2113

Speedies
Okay I will next time - thanks for the heads up (wasn't sure if I was overstepping just in case it wrecked the tracking system). BTW - I liked your play on our usernames. Cheers-- VS talk 06:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Şaphane mountain
Sorry for the lack of info about rules.(Stub). Please check the stub article now, is it ok, or not. Regards. Must . T  C 12:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

TITSA
can you tell me why a article of the publice bus service of the country i live in is not important,even if it carries over 50 million people each year,and if the information about it is picked up by people coming to my islansd may make them use public transport rather then hire a car —Preceding unsigned comment added by THORtenerife (talk • contribs) 05:20, 12 April 2007

Reminder software See also
The wiki link you removed was broken (internal section name had changed) and I fixed it and readded. If you still feel this is unrelated, then go ahead and remove it and I won't contest it. Thanks! pgillman 12:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Stephen and thanks for responding on my talk page. The CARE system calls seniors to remind them to take medication based upon a calendar and a custom message telling them what meds to take and when.  As I mentioned above, the original wiki link pointed directly to the section in the article regarding this but the heading was modified.  It was corrected in the link I updated, but apparently a revert bot removed it right afterwards.  If you check this latest wiki link, you'll see the section.  Thanks for taking the time to review this.  pgillman 00:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

International Journal of Physical Distribution & Logistics Management
I've re-drafted this piece and will post the new entry in the next 24 hours. My apologies for falling foul of G11. Please contact me if there are problems with the second iteration of the article: I believe the content is satisfactory. Thanks. Lawrencemj 14:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

TITSA (again)
can you please tell me why A PUBLIC BUS SERVICE cannot be included in wiki,its serves the people,and tourists,uses the latest vehicles including gas and hydro,and is starting a tram service soon,it takes my people to school,hospital ,and helps to save people using cars,,,its beyond me why it has been delete,and i asked before it was for an answer,but none was given,,,it carrries over 50 million jouneys a year,and i can find plenty of examples on wiki of PRIVATE MONEY MAKING BUS COMPANYS BEING LISTED —Preceding unsigned comment added by THORtenerife (talk • contribs) 07:02, 13 April 2007

Patrick Donnelly
Thank you for your due diligence in catching me before I'd finished editing the Donnelly page. I had left a note on the discussion page appraising of my activity. I appreciate you are busy, and that you took the time to follow the links. I hope you do not view me as a plaigarist. I appreciate you posted a template, but I feel that care should be practised in the issuing of warnings, as natural justice dictates that such a practise leads to injustice. DDB 09:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Sherwood Dungeon
I believe that it was you who posted a speedy delete tag on the article, Sherwood Dungeon. Despite having read the the general criteria for speedy deletion, both before I created the article, and upon reading the message left on my talk page, I fail to see how it "exclusively promotes a company, product, group, service, or person". The article, Sherwood Dungeon, informs the reader of a free to use game, without "blatantly advertising" it. Having looked at multiple articles of online games, it is difficult for me to see how Sherwood Dungeon is different than World of Warcraft. Taking this as an example, the only two major differences between these two games are, Another of the general criteria for speedy deletion, is that it is notable enough to be included in an Encyclopedia. Personally, although you may feel otherwise, I, and quite possibly the other frequenters of Wikipedia's Sherwood Dungeon article, probably feel that this online game is more notable, than Totally Circus, an article dealing with a 7 year old, now defunct Disney TV show, that ran for one summer. Totally Circus has attracted about 13 edits in the last 10 months, which is more a function of obscurity, than one of a interesting, well-written article. After reading in depth the regulations of speedy deletions, the only possible transgression that I found was that Sherwood Dungeon, links to it's host site. However, World of Warcraft links to its host site as well, but under the heading of "External Links: Official Sites". Sherwood Dungeon links to its host through the text at the very beginning. If this was what led you to post a speedy delete tag on it, than I urge you to change the article itself, rather than deleting it. Also, the Sherwood Dungeon page was on Wikipedia for a number of months, before being deleted. If you would like to discuss this further, I would enjoy having a discussion. However, if there is no response to this message within a week, I will recreate the article under the assumption that I persuaded you of my views toward this page. ~Wyvern642~ 14:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * World of Warcraft has a much larger fan/subscription base than Sherwood Dungeon.
 * And World of Warcraft is a subscription based game, thereby making it much more beneficial for World of Warcraft to attract consumers, rather than Sherwood Dungeon, a game free of obligations.


 * Thank you for the reply. Personally, do you think I should recreate the article? I am fairly certain that there are multiple articles from independent sources reviewing/talking about Sherwood Dungeon, but I will leave it to your judgement. Also, I was musing writing an article on LogoMation, a turtle-like programming language. Do you think it is notable enough? It is used as a programming teaching aid at my school, and throughout the OCDSB. Logo is the basis for this software, and Logo is certainly well documented. I appreciate your time. In a passing comment however, the Netherland Wikipedia has an article on Sherwood Dungeon with no independent sources. Just so you know. ~Wyvern642~ 00:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Ekolu Mea Nui
May I ask why you deleted the lyrics to Ekolu Mea Nui? How is that a possible copy vio if I am including a link as reference to show that what I have put in the article is fact correct? Do you realize that Hawaiian Music was not written down in the past? The words and meanings were passed down from one generation to another. I have added the lyrics back and I will be seeking admin support if you remove them again. Mahalo ā nui loa!! -- Kanaka maoli i puuwai 17:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Aloha e Stephen. Thanks for bringing me to light on this matter of music copyrights.  I will research the issue for the lyrics to Ekolu Mea Nui.  Please keep in mind though what I mentioned earlier.  While not the case in this particular song, most Hawaiian music will not have a copyright.  The Kānaka Maoli (Native Hawaiians) did not have a written language before the arrival of the missionaries.  Prior to their arrival, ka Ōlelo Hawaii, (the Hawaiian Language), was oral only.  A lot of Hawaiian songs you hear today have been around LONG before the missonaries arriced in Hawaii.  The songs have been passed down through the generations.  For this reason, there are a lot of Hawaiian songs that no one knows exactly where they originated or when.  Mahalo ā nui i kou kōkua.  (Thanks a lot for your assistance.)  Again, I will research the copyright for this song and try to get permissions to post them here.  Aloha!  Kanaka maoli i puuwai 00:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Stephen, thanks. I added myself to WikiProject Hawaii.  Again, I hope to have the issue worked out about the copyright.  I emailed the owner of the Huapala website.  Hopefully I will reach a solution soon.  Mahalo a nui!  Kanaka maoli i puuwai 01:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Stephen, I am not having the best of luck thus far tracking down the copyright. One person that I talked to said that they believe that NO copyright exists for this song and pointed me in a different direction.  Question though.  If I were to put something to the effect of "The lyrics as they appear on this page are the contributor's interpretation of the song and may not be correct."  Would that cover any copyright legalities? Just a thought. --&#91;&#91;User_talk:Kanaka_maoli_i_puuwai&#124;Talk]] 04:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The B-Girlz
Hi Stephen, The B-Girlz are legitimate performance artists who have performed across North America in several medium including Television, Film and Live Theatre. The B-Girlz performed for several years in Provincetown MASS with other such artists as Jimmy James and Varla Jean Merman [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varla_jean_merman. The B-Girlz recently performed live onstage at Massey Hall in Toronto with Dave Foley. The B-Girlz have been featured in Canada's national alternative magazine Fab. The B-Girlz have become part of Queer Canadian culture. May we have their reference page put backup? It keeps getting deleted as spam.... --Itsmikeyboy 01:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)M German

Whoops
Thanks for telling me that!!! Shindo9 Hikaru  04:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

rv of featured article

 * can you do that? where does it say it can't be a recently written article?


 * secondly the article clearly stats why she is notableT ALK•Q R C2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 19:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Peace and quiet
Wow, it's so nice to be able to spend time trying to improve articles not related to Top Gear for a change! As to what happens when the week is up... well who knows ;-) DrFrench 19:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Emerald Journals
Stephen, there are about 100 journals from that company, of which about 1/2 might merit articles. The necessary checking is best done in batches, because I need to use multiple logons to get to the different databases to check. (There is another highly important one, Ulrichs, that I haven't done yet for the other 3.) I would really be grateful if you could hold off on others until we get the current group disposed of. If for example they are all to be converted into subarticles or list items, there is much less checking necessary, and any which are to be full articles, if that is the consensus, need to be fleshed out. I don't want to do unnecessary work on this. I think we have enough to start on--I want to try to at least start the Emerald article itself tonight. Then I want to add the whole title list, and link the ones with articles, and make sections of the ones with content, though I'm not sure what will be the most concise way to do it. Do you happen to know whether there is code for a 2 column list, or do I need to use a table.? DGG 02:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * More about this sort of article--I'm going to ask the only people who are working on journals lists &c, but I thought I'd ask you first


 * 1) For merged sections for the minor journals, there isn't really much more to say than the info from the home page, so it might as well be a list with a link to the home page. However the journals people will think it very desirable that there be redirects from the titles, and that can only be done with sections.
 * 2) but looking ahead to Springer and Elsevier, each with over 1000 journals of which at least 75% will be notable, doing even 2 line sections for 250 journals seems a little awkward,
 * 3) The journals people had hoped to do categories, one for each publisher, but that shouldn't duplicate a list. So if they want to get all their titles in one place, I think we're stuck with lists. I thought I couldn't do a category with a redirect but probably I can with the pipe trick. What I want to avoid is having more prominence to the worse publishers just because they're smaller & the large ones are too difficult to deal with. This will obviously take a little experiment. DGG 02:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

of course she is innocent until found guilty
(tiffany adler) i think thats a very important point which is often overlooked by the media the duke three is a great example of how presumed innocence is truly paramount. you have a great worldview for making sure to steadfastly hold that stance. kudos.T ALK•Q R C2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 20:30, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Re. Another
You're welcome. :-) By the way, it is not necessary to post several test4 warnings for each vandalism edit a user has perpetrated . One warning suffices. Keep up the good work! Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  22:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I guess you misunderstood me. What I mean is that warnings have an increasing level of severity and two warnings of the same level are unnecessary. Usually you drop a warning after reverting one (or more) vandalism edits, and post a more severe warning if the vandal vandalizes after that. And so on, until the vandal is reported to WP:AIV after violating a final warning. Multiple warnings of the same level may confuse administrators checking a vandal's talk page and eventually cause delays in blocking them. The process is unrelated to a user's time zone, Wikipedia uses UTC for all users. I'm not in the United States either. :-) Regards, Hús  ö  nd  23:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Tagging
Nice work tagging those Aussie pages. It has not been unnoticed. :) --Merbabu 03:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Bennetts Lane Jazz Club
This page was nominated for speedy deletion about a week or so ago, and I put a 'hangon' then and gave the reason that it was on the list of requested music articles (see page here). The request has since been deleted - a user went through a removed blue links. Anyway, if I'm correct, it looks like the page has already been deleted since you posted on my talk page. Thanks for the notice. Honk squeak 06:55, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all the help! Honk squeak 09:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Stalker?
Yeah I reported him, he keeps adding nonsense to Rove McManus and Rove (TV series) on a IP address which was blocked. He obviously is just made of his vandalism is getting reverted. - Mike Beckham 08:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a stalker... or am I? I'm not made... or am I made? I'm not blocked... or am I blocked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.44.17 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 22 April 2007

Assessment
It's not the easiest of information to find, but if you take a look at Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Australia_articles_by_quality/41, you'll see someway down the list (after the Stub articles) unassessed articles by importance. -- Longhair\talk 03:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

no problem
Although in that case, I blocked because it was just a vandalism-only account. I don't block for blanking one's own talk page, and many people are of the opinion that it's not vandalism at all, only a recognition that one has read the warnings there. But that account, bleh. We don't need their contributions. Thanks for the report. — coe l acan — 22:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Bushranger - History
I really like the way you broke up the history section, it flows really well. Good job! Garrie 05:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Do the leading The 's add to the section names - per WP:MSH they probably should be done away with?Garrie 05:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings
Please just leave one warning for an instance of vandalism, and please don't make legal threats as you did here [2] or [3]--Steve (Stephen) talk 23:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Mindys12345 02:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was only trying to deter them, I find once you do that they stop. Also some of those users did it more than once, thats why I put more than one warning on their talk page.

Steve How do feel about catfish
do you like cat fish or do you prefer salmon dude.--Wayne Neptune 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Civility
''What got you so annoyed that you had to use this [1] edit summary? --Steve (Stephen) talk 22:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)''
 * Don't worry about it, it won't happin again. Mindys12345 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman
Sorry got one more question dude. Favorite Morgan Freeman movie?--Wayne Neptune 03:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Eric's birthday
Eric's birthday is completely incorrect- by 2 days!!!! It's 25th April 2007. As someone who knows Eric I can tell you that the 25th of April is listed in every World Masters programme and Embassy programme he competed in and also the BBC Book of Darts. Please do not take such a tone with me when you are clearly wrong and please do not call me a vandal. SOURCES: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6582895.stm (21st over referenced there) http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/161702 http://quiztimeuk.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_archive.html http://www.scopesys.com/cgi-bin/today2.cgi Please select April 25th —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.2.213.204 (talk • contribs).

Your RfA
Hi Stephen! A number of editors have posed some additional optional questions on your RfA. Would you be interested in answering them? Best, --Shirahadasha 20:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Report of vandalism from 58.165.138.98
I checked this user's contributions and the last edit from this IP address was at 13:58, some nine hours ago. Whatever vandalism they may have got up to has stopped. Sam Blacketer 22:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Martinultima
Thanks Stephen. I've unblocked User:Martinultima. Good luck with your RfA, by the way. Gwernol 01:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

THE MAPS
No the maps have nothing to do my brother, I explained that he once tried to use them for something else and he got turned down. I sent her the email with the link to wikipedia to let her know that this is what they are going to used for, she replied saying its okay, then I sent her another link of the image page with logos and the maps together. your the only only one that seems to be worried about this. I think you don't like the maps being there, thats it. Mindys12345 03:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

That image is from a legitimate Wikipedia article. If people find it offensive then maybe it should be removed. If it is from a legitimate article then it can not be considered a personal attack to be linked on some  talk page. Why would a bloke be offended anyway. I find the micro penis image very offensive. I have only seen it once but I got upset when I saw it. Mindys12345 09:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Which (now deleted) article was the CSD tags being removed from, and the personal attacks in edit summaries occuring? I blocked the account anyways for 48 hours because of this, but otherwise I'm slightly confused - I presume they're deleted now?  Daniel Bryant  10:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, found it.  Daniel Bryant  10:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed once I found the deleted edits :) I'm about to go offline, so if you're still around for a while longer, could you possibly just watch (or even watchlist) the talk page to ensure that none of my comments change, like yours did? Cheers, and good luck with the certain something :),  Daniel Bryant  10:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)