User talk:Stephorme

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Proposed deletion of Gamos
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Gamos, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Fails Wikipedia:CORP. No evidence of notability beyond the authoring of a document by two employees.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Tim Ross  (talk)  17:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Tim. I am not even sure if this constitutes a reply writing here but let me try.
 * I am not sure how to improve the notability. I added the history to show how the founder was involved in noteable movements (Nuclear Power in the 60's, Intermediate Technology and renewable energy in the 70's and 80's).  I thought as a living biography he possibly wasnt quite enough for his own page but as a combination Dunn and Gamos were very noteable.  Gamos has been a significant influence on policy in Africa for quite a while but I dont know how to communicate that without using value words, which I am trying to avoid as it is suppose to be neutral.  I could quote newspapers like Washington post or Guardian (UK)?  Would that help?
 * Can you give me some hints.
 * I do accept that at the moment the page is mainly me, but I am hoping once its up and established others might join in who know Gamos here in UK.
 * As you will know I am a first timer wikipedia so am in a learning phase.
 * Also, Gamos is similar to Overseas Development Institute and Institute of Development Studies - would links to their pages, and making links back help?
 * Thanks Steph


 * I have added some references from external sources - although 2 are books published by Dunn - is this in the right direction?

Well, yes and no, Steph. You are doing fine in showing notability for Dunn, and may well be able to generate an individual article for him. You do not seem to have added anything, though, that shows that Gamos is notable, in the sense of being written about by disinterested third parties. It might be best, actually, to work in the reverse direction. I would suggest writing the Dunn article, in which a discussion of Gamos would be entirely appropriate. That would probably prove to be entirely acceptable, and this article might become moot.

By the way, feel free to ask anything you'd like, here. I'll check regularly. Tim Ross  (talk)  12:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

It occurs to me, that, if you are interested, it is possible to rename this article, say, "Peter Dunn (engineer)", and continue working on it that way. I've never been involved in such a change, but I believe it is not too hard to arrange. Tim Ross  (talk)  13:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I have just renamed the page migrating across the history.  Can I now take off the notability notice (for the moment - I will continue to develop this page)

That should do the trick, Steph. Thanks. The article may face a further move, as the current name does not follow the usual Wikipedia syntax, but I'm sure someone else will take care of that as necessary. Tim Ross  (talk)  15:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)