User talk:SteuartC

Steuart Campbell
Hi. Your creation of this article raises concern that you have inadvertantly breached WP:VANITY. As you can understand, articles about editors are best not done by the individual concerned. --Guinnog 16:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi again. As you haven't replied to the message above, but have continued to edit the article which I assume (wrongly?) to be about you, in contravention of the policy I referred you to above, I will now have to consider nominating the article for deletion at WP:AfD, on the basis of WP:AUTO, specifically:

"Creating or editing an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it will likely be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to No original research, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability.

If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedians with articles.) "

Sorry to be such a nuisance but I'm sure you'll see why this policy exists. --Guinnog 17:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea how to reply! SC

You just have! Unfortunately, I've just listed the article at. If the result of the debate there is to delete your article, somebody (me if you like) can easily recreate it, so the work you've done won't be lost. Let me assure you that there is nothing personal in this, but it is a good policy that editors don't write articles on themselves. Also, to sign a post, just type four tildes, like this ~. Best wishes, --Guinnog 10:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I could get my agent to submit an entry if necessary. But I've not entered any qualitative comments--just the facts. I was moved to submit it because my counterparts in ufology (only one of my interests), Philip Klass and Jenny Randles, have entries. Who submitted those? BTW, would it be acceptable to list all my articles (Klass's are listed in his entry)? SteuartC 11:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Who decided to delete my draft biographical article and how is such a decision reached? SteuartC 09:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * As I explained above, the problem was that it was autobiographical, which is not allowed. The discussion which led to consensus for its deletion is at Articles for deletion/Steuart Campbell, which I already referred you to above. I am currently working on recreating the article as I promised to do. Incidentally, something contributed by your agent or even a close friend would be equally unacceptable as there would clearly be a conflict of interest there too. All info on Wikipedia articles has to be verifiable and written from a neutral point of view. I'll let you know when the article is finished; I strongly suggest though that if you want to add to it or change it in any way, you say so on the article's talk (discussion) page or else here on your own talk page, and let someone else add it, to avoid breaching WP:AUTO again. If you are going to contribute to this project, I recommend you read and study these policies in detail. I bear you no ill-will, but it's only fair to mention that doing things the way you have has led to a lot of extra work for other editors. --Guinnog 14:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've now submitted the article I wrote and I would welcome any input on it. Specifically, I'd be interested in a photo of you (you would need to be able to donate all rights in the picture to Wikipedia, ideally) and in the exact date you worked as an architect until. --Guinnog 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but what you've written appears to be almost identical to what I wrote originally, which I thought was already neutral and objective. OK, I was unaware that I'm not allowed to write about myself and I'm glad that you've done it for me. Sorry if I've caused extra work (I didn't know that you are an editor--you didn't say). Yes, I could supply a photo, but I'm just about to go away for two weeks. I'll get back to you after that to discuss how I can get a fuller entry in the encyclopedia. SteuartC 08:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, my Loch Ness book is not just an examination of photographs; it's an examination of all the main evidence, including eye-witness reports and sonar evidence (subtitle reads: 'A critical evaluation of the principal evidence for the existence of the most famous lake-monster in the world'). I also deal with reports of monsters in other lakes around the world. SteuartC 08:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. Enjoy your holiday. I'll edit the article to amend the Loch Ness info. --Guinnog 11:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)