User talk:SteveMcVey

Toto
Hello, your efforts are appreciated on Toto but you are introducing a very obvious "point of view" with many of your edits, and your conflict of interest is clear since you run the band's Web page. I request that you stick to neutral edits or corrections of obvious errors. Please do not continue to makes edits that introduce "promotional" language or that gloss over negative aspects of the band's history. --Bloodzombie 15:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, please stop editing or removing content on the Toto article without explanation or reason. I suggest you discuss potentially contentious content changes on the article Talk page.  This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site - we need a balanced and neutral presentation of facts.  This is also a community - we need to have open discussion about these types of issues. --Bloodzombie 15:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Blood Zombie, I've taken out the promo language -- my verbosity coming in!

The Rosanna Incident article is referencing blogs and articles that no longer exist. Additionally, whoever posts this information is posting highly inaccurate and contentious information based on several discussions on a Fan, free-form posting Network -- hardly something that should be used to maintain the integrity of an encyclopedia.


 * Okay, I agree that the Rosanna stuff should not be in the article at all. Any evidence that it happened is now gone anyway and it is just inner-band bickering. --Bloodzombie 15:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way, Steve, please check out the page Manual of Style (headings). There are some guidelines there about the use of capitalization in headings. As a side note, thanks for making toto99.com the wonderful reference that it is. I visit the site daily (as well as Luke's personal web site) for information on the band. --Bloodzombie 16:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Conflict of interest advice
If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with,
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors,
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam);
 * and you must always:
 * 1) avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Conflict of Interest.

I would strongly recommend that you restrict your involvement with this article to making suggestions on the talk page. As an official part of the band's promotional staff, there could be an unpleasant backlash if people observe that you are editing the article. In addition to making suggestions on the talk page, you could consider uploading pictures of the band and album covers with appropriate licensing for Wikipedia. This may serve the dual purposes of helping Wikipedia get free use images while helping you generate more exposure for the band. See An Untapped SEO Opportunity: Image Link Love From Wikipedia. If you have any questions, just ask. We're here to help. - Jehochman Talk 16:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You seem to be ignoring my advice above. You're deleting referenced material from the article and failing to work with other editors.  There's an ongoing discussion here about this that you should read.  If you don't stop whitewashing the article an administrator is going to block your account from editing.  Please, we aren't kidding. - Jehochman  Talk 23:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The importance of civility at Wikipedia
Sir, the comment you left here belittling the other editor isn't appropriate for Wikipedia. Please, remember that Wikipedia is not the same as the rest of the Internet. We require a higher standard of civility than many other sites and discussion groups you may be accustomed to. Thank you. - Jehochman Talk 02:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)